We should all care. Better quality audio at no extra cost benefits us all (even if you don't listen to loseless audio yourself). Apple should've embraced loseless audio earlier like Tidal and Amazon did
Thank you for explaining the fact that Bluetooth has its deficiencies which is why I honestly cannot hear any difference when comparing lossless with compressed music for the most part. I guess it’s time to go back to wiring up my equipment. Again!
I couldn’t agree more. As a music producer I’m used to work with high resolution audio. I’m glad Apple included lossless audio in Apple Music for no extra charge! This is a real game changer when it comes to music streaming services. Bluetooth is lovely but cannot provide lossless audio. Transmitting such large files within the range Bluetooth operates is not possible (yet). It’s hard to tell if this will be available in the future. Nevertheless I prefer listening with a wired headphone. That’s where the real magic happens even on lossy codec. I listen on my iPad and iPhone with a good wired headphone from Sennheiser, AKG etcetera. My Mac is hooked up to my audio interface which outputs the balanced channels to my Adam Audio studio monitors. It’s really incredible what Apple pulled of here. The level of detail is astonishing with a setup like this. I definitely want to see you do a video about hearing the difference between lossy and lossless audio formats. There are people, *kuch Rick Beato, kuch, who ‘prove’ that even a well trained musician can’t hear any difference… That statement is false. A well trained ear, especially anyone in the music industry, can tell the difference between a shitty MP3 and a 24-bit/96kHz wave file. Even 48 and 44.1. (Sorry for my cursing in the former sentence). I have nothing against Rick Beato, I respect him for his great knowledge and experience in the music industry, but making such a bold statement within a video with only one person to validate his opinion is far from professional imho. I can go on and on about this but I won’t. Great video!
You forgot to mention the main paradigm shift presented by losses music: Its never been available before! Ever! High-end hifi gear, vinyl etc all coloured and essentially altered the music musicians committed to tape (or disk) in the studio. For the first time in history, on suitably-wired headphones, you will hear EXACTLY what the artist created. Thats huge 👍
just using the 3.5 jack on my M1 Mac mini through a Yamaha receiver and Polk speakers. I was pretty happy with the quality off ACC. I have to say I am surprised how much better lossless sounds. I was not expecting such a noticeable difference. I'm waiting for a Fosi ($80) DAC so I can try 24/192
Lossless Audio may be beneficial to a small part of the population. I don't think most people will actually be able to appreciate it. There have been a couple studies (double blind and randomized) where 90% of those tested could not tell whether music samples were from streaming UA-cam (256Kbps) vs the same samples from a CD (1411 Kbps @ 16 bit). ~90% of people (including some audiophiles) were flipping a coin as to which one had the better sound. Guessed right about 50% of the time. They could describe in detail why sample A was better (more airy, more open, spatial placement of instruments, etc). But then 10 minutes later would say the same exact thing about sample B. There are a few golden ears out there. ~10% tested could pick out the CD sample 85% of the time. I would postulate that anyone over age 40 would have a difficult time due to normal age related hearing loss. But being an audiophile is a hobby with many fun biases. Lossless audio is part of this fun hobby. If you know you are listening to lossless audio you WILL DEFINITELY hear a sound improvement (after central processing.) As human beings our minds work that way. Nothing wrong with it.
I'm over 40 (technically still 40 for the a few weeks) and can tell the difference but generally only on certain music genres and with tracks I'm very familiar with. You have to know what to listen for when comparing most of the time. It's more noticeable on music with instruments rather than Pop music, Hip Hop and Dance music that use less instrumentation
@@franklingoodwin With vision, most approaching 40 y.o. could start benefiting from some optical correction, especially for reading. There is a wide range of visual acuity among the population. A countless variety of prescriptions for glasses is possible. From no correction needed to severe visual impairment. Hearing is no different. There is a wide range of hearing acuity in the population, that sadly begins to worsen as we get older. Unfortunately we cannot correct auditory deficiencies as well as we can visual ones. Hearing aids are designed to help people understand language. They can boost a narrow range of frequency to help words be more clear. Say 500Hz to 4,000Hz. With typical hearing loss 2,000 Hz and above are the frequencies that are effected. Music has a range 20Hz to 20,000 Hz. (Only children can hear anything around the 20K mark.) When you start trying to boost frequencies above 5 or 6KHz with hearing aids feed back occurs (squealing.) You can cheat a little by taking sound above 6000Hz and moving it down to below 4,000Hz before amplifying it, but of course that distorts the sound of the music. My stereo system includes two 30-band graphic equalizers and a pink noise generator with calibrated microphone so I can balance the room to my seating position. The room may be balanced but since I have normal age related hearing loss (I am 67) I still have to adjust the mids and highs with my preamplifier which has an 8-band parametric equalizer. This allows me to shift frequency so the music sounds better to my ears. All very unscientific, and just a rough accommodation to a more complex problem. There is still a lot of detail I am missing in the upper range. The air around cymbals is gone for example. Maybe some day an audiologist will be able to write a subscription for "ear glasses" that will bring us back to auditory 20/20. Do a little experiment. When you are sitting and listening to your favorite music, cup both ears with your hands like you are trying to hear better (creating bigger ears in essence.) See what happens. If nothing, then you have great hearing. But if all of a sudden you can appreciate more upper range detail and "air" then you will get my point.
The web site named Bandcamp is a place you can buy digital downloads (and sometimes CD's, DVD's, and other merchandise). Music buyers can select FLAC for download format, and for most albums that is supposed to be CD-quality lossless. *SOME* artists also release albums on Bandcamp which are higher that CD-quality, such as: 24 bit 96khz hi-resolution Studio Master version
Even though I know my bluetooth AirPods Max cannot stream lossless, I find that Lossless music on Apple Music sounds better than non-lossless music. Am I imagining this? Or is the music better even if I do not get the "full benefit" of lossless as it sounds improved to me. Would appreciate your opinion / answer. Thanks!
I like the going from 720 video to 4k video analogy. has pretty much all the pros and cons of video ( cost of equipment , resolution and file size issues...)
@@darickfoxo7986 do you have one yet is the question and will you buy another in the future...or put simply will the market for dac's and streaming boxes go up because of lossless steaming on multiple platforms
If you do any recording or are a musician, you probably have one or more interfaces lying about your studio or home . I have several. These devices are also DAC’s. I found one that I had from a while ago, an old e mu tracker that I plug my I phone into the mic inputs and get pristine audio at 192khz. It’s small enough to sit on my nightstand with out getting in the way of anything. Try it!
About freaking time. This is a topic I've been passionate about for some time ... almost like when I hit pause on the youtube video to write this comment and then an add miraculously starts playing (yep just happened)- it's disrespectful. For DECADES we've been ROBBED of what the artist intended. I'll never forget the 1st time I purchased music off iTunes. 256kbps. What?? I paid full price for a fraction of the file?? Disrespect. And then the removal of headphone jacks was insult to injury (a bit melodramatic) but I know you understand. I still buy CDs and then rip them in lossless to my laptop, then whatever I love I compress to 320kbps and throw on the iPhone, which still hurts my soul. My car no longer has a CD player, which also hurts. Yes, until this year I still had a CD binder in the car. I haven't been able to make the transition to streaming indefinitely because I feel like once I purchase the CD, I have the full quality forever, without having to pay $15/month every months for the next 50 years. Yea I do the regular Spotify for casual listening or exploring new music, but when there's an album that is special I have to buy the CD. Maybe someday I'll turn, but I'm not there yet. Yes I can hear the difference. Music sounds more full across the board, lows, mids, highs. More fullness and tone; more air and space; more dynamics.
You are amazing at explaining this fabulous lossless audio. Tunes from my youth sound significantly better. We are bothe friends of Bill W. 4/11/2011 God bless
It’s kind of funny, but because of Apple lossless music, I started to learn more and more about “audio” and have been watching some UA-cam “audiophilc” videos. And now, I’m on my way to setup my very first Hi-Fi system with an amplifier, a CD player, network streamer, and a pair of really nice speakers. 😅
The reason everyone is talking about Apple music going lossless is because they beat Spotify to the punch at a competitive price point. Spotify announced their HiFi service, which will be launched at the end of 2021. Apple just one-upped them by launching now AND keeping the same price point for now. I believe, as hardware improves, 2, 3, maybe 5 years down the line they will change their price point. Me personally, I'll wait until Spotify launches HiFi to see what's what. I'm just very disappointed that smartphone manufacturers don't give a shit about this since most don't even have a headphone jack and the ones that do have crappy DACs and amps built in to them. LG was the only one that used a Quad-DAC setup, with a robust headphone jack amp, that gave you superior sound but they didn't include that on their last flagship the Velvet and are now out of the phone business for good. Who knows, maybe all this attention will be a wake up call for the others. I do not want to buy a $300-500 dedicated player for hi-res music. That's like when I had to carry a flip phone and iPod at the same time. So annoying!
I was planning to go for Sony XM4. I didn't. Instead I got HD569 and HD560s. Also got FiiO k3 and xDuuo Link2 (to pick one and send back the other). 560s is my first open back. So I don't know if it's the lossless audio or the fact that I've never used open back before, but I love the experience! However, I'm still trying to understand the impact of these DAC/amps on the audio quality, details, etc. The increased volume is obvious. Though not sure if needed as my macbook seem to be driving them quite alright for the volume. I feel like noticing more clarity and better insturment seperation at times, but can't be sure. I'll try harder :) If you have any track suggestion which I could spot any potential difference with and without DAC better, please shoot!
I describe it as noticing more volume dynamics, fullness at all frequencies, and more space and air. Follow-up here on which ones you end up keeping! I'm curious.
I had to EQ my 560s to boost the low end and get rid of the "Shoutiness" at certain higher freqs, then they were good. But just for giggles I bought some Focal Clears and the 560s just sit now. Im not sure the diff was worth $800 though. I have a dragonfly red on my PC with Amazon HD, and I'm not sure it sounds any better than the headphone jack on the puter with the Realtek HD music sound card.! But I do think the CDs on my computer sound better than the "Lossless" online files. Just a smidge fuller. Have fun!
@@drewpknutz1410 I actually ordered FiiO BTR5 and plan to keep that one as my dac/amp for the moment. In comparison with the ones I tried so far, I thought having the flexibility to not be tied to the desk would be nice. I think it also offers EQ settings so I may play with that a bit as well. We’ll see. I also tried AKG K361 in the meantime as I wasn’t so sure with HD569’s comfort. But 569 sounds a bit better to me and more importantly, provided a better isolation which is important for me for the closed back pair. K361 is also nice though. Very easy to listen. I’m just discovering it all and a lot of fun so far. Enjoy!
@@mootsym I guess I feel the dynamics part of it as well so far. I’ll just keep monitoring and when I get used to this, downgrade to regular AAC to see what I feel like missing :) Too many variables for me atm (headphones, lossless, dac/amp) so struggling to pin point what’s going on and which variable is the one causing it :D
I'd say most people can't hear a difference. I agree though. There's no real negative to having it. Unless you have 128 gb phone or something. Then it would just be best to download in 320 or 256 aac.
The real earth-shaking part of Apple's announcement is that they're providing the lossless versions for *Free* (or at least, "no extra cost over what they already charge"). There have been many other sources over the last 10 years, but always selling lossless-audio music at a premium price. And if a music retailer as huge as Apple is going to supply lossless audio for no extra cost, then everyone else who sells music has to at least *say* what they're doing with lossless. This is all somewhat frustrating for me. I definitely want lossless versions of my music, and I've been ripping my CD's into ALAC format for at least 10 years now. However, I also want to listen using wireless headphones, and there's simply no way that bluetooth headphones can deliver the full quality of lossless audio.
I use a program called "dBpoweramp Music Converter", which does an excellent job (IMO). Not only does it rip the CD's, but it calculates some checksums of the data it read in off the CD, and compares the checksums of the music data from your CD to checksums collected from other people who have ripped the same CD. And it automatically connects to multiple crowd-sourced databases which know the song-titles for each CD. You can compare the titles found at each service and decide which title you prefer for each song. This saves a lot of typing! I run it on macOS, but it's also available for Windows. => dbpowerapp .com
Returned them and buy some audiophile cans such as Sennheiser HD6XX, Hifiman Sundara , or even audio technica mx50 (wired) sound much better with these lossless & hi res audio file
I own a xDuoo DAC and Preamp. XDuoo has also produced a 5.3 Bluetooth transmitter - MX-01. Plus a BluDento 5.2 Bluetooth dongle. I use a Mac Mini to stream my Apple Music to my components. I have a desktop audio setup that has spread out the space of my desk. Unfortunately, I have no room for my computer set-up. I do have room nearby to setup my computer that relegates me to go cable-less and use Bluetooth. My MX-01 and BluDento has been able to upgrade my components’ inputs from aptX only to aptX-HD and aptX-LL. Maybe, there is a way to achieve Lossless transmission via Bluetooth.
This was a good video, thank you. Also enjoyed other videos on this topic from you. You concentrate a lot on headphones for lossless, do you have suggestions for DACs for full-fledged stereo systems with amps or receivers andspeakers? Also, what is your experience of lossless on HomePod originals?
Very interesting video. I have the Liberty 3 Pro earbuds which are Bluetooth 5.2. When I was listening to a track on Amazon Music Unlimited, it did a breakdown of the quality of the track quality of the track from the recording quality, the source device and what the listening device was capable of and most of the time it displayed the quality as 16bit/44KHz to the headphones - would this be correct? Also I read someone’s comment on another YT channel that Bluetooth 5.2 is capable of 24bit/48KHz. Is this correct? Also when listening to Lossless and Hi-Res Lossless on Apple Music through my Liberty 3 Pro earbuds, I can hear a difference. The Hi-Res setting sounds a bit louder and slightly more detailed so I’ve left my streaming settings to Hi-Res Lossless.
I've extensively tested out lossless (FLAC) vs lossy (mp3/Ogg) and could not hear the difference over wired headphones with discrete DAC(s). So I canceled my Qobuz and Deezer HiFi subscriptions and sticking with high bitrate compressed.
Would be nice if the next Apple iPhone 12S (maybe it's called 13 or whatever) would have a reasonable DAC for HiRes audio inside and a headphone jack. But most likely I'm just a dreamer...
finally somebody gets it…that is exactly what is needed… it that would allow people to toss Apples dongles…would hurt their bottom line…this is all getting to crazy
On Mac OS Apple Music app. With lossless enabled and when skipping to random tracks across albums we are getting this deafening loud beep at the start of a song. Can you confirm if it’s occurring for you? It’s a serious problem that could potentially hurt listeners and damage equipment.
Not much or any mention of of other compression types such as FLAC, AAC, ATRAC4, etc. There are less lossy compression types that don’t require huge files, FLAC being the top choice. But since it’s license free, it won’t be utilized by streaming services.
Jason, best review yet, especially about Bluetooth. Can you tell me if I can stream Lossless through my iPhone to my car audio? What about using an Astell &Kern DAP like the newer SP2000T maybe using their Bluetooth to stream Apple, Deezer, Tidal? Thanks so much
Audiophiles will care. Desk -bound WFH/ will appreciate it. Over time, as connectivity and device speed multi tasking improves, more and more people will opt for it. Apple waited until a certain user/ connectivity threshold to open up this feature. Apple SHOULD do it if they want to maintain a leadership in audio. Why wouldn’t they?
It seems ironic that Apple, the company that’s been pushing us towards a wireless listening experience is now bringing out lossless audio for which we do need a wired connection for listening. It is like the hardware part of the company does not know what the audio part of the company is doing
Question: Are most Apple lossless files really 24/48 or 16/44? Based on what I see available on my hi res music buying sites there isn’t a ton of 24/48 out there yet. I wish the Apple Music app showed that info like PowerAmp and other apps do.
Please do a video about Atmos. Completely confusing. I understand that at the most it is intended for systems that include height speakers. It’s gets confusing if your audio setup is 7.1/5.1/2 channel/headphones. I’m getting some understanding that Atmos will automatically change to everything which does not include dedicated height speakers but I am not sure and confused. Thank you.
am gonna stick with my hi res wired earbuds and lightning to 3 and a half mm dac with my iphone to listen to 24bit 48khz songs for now! I heard the ears can't go beyond 16bit 44khz cd quality if am right!
And we’re still listening to unbalanced output. The moment I got my FiiO M11 and balanced output with dual dacs the amount of nuance, separation and detail in a DSD, or 24/48 or higher flac is very noticeable
"Is it worth it?" Worth what? It doesn't cost anything if you're an Apple Music subscriber. "Should you care?" Not if you mostly listen with bluetooth headphones, HomePods, AirPlay, CarPlay, or bluetooth speakers. But if you have a good stereo and DAC, Apple Lossless lets you enjoy the massive Apple Music catalog in CD-quality sound--or better. It's definitely worth it. There are already millions of folks who subscribe to TIDAL, Qobuz, or other lossless/hi-res streaming service and already know about this stuff.
I've experience loud static noise during streaming lossless albums with logo APPLE DIGITAL MASTERS (for example - score from the movie "Soul" Jon Batiste, first track) But it works fine downloaded. Scary as hell. Any sugestions? Greets
Short answer is not really. Not many people can hear a difference. Even the people that can have to listen intently. Lossless digital audio is a great source to store on harddrives when you want to compress later.
if you are already and apple music subscriber... of course its worth it.... it will cost you $0 ..... well except the cost of an external DAC that is needed to play higher quality than the 24/48 that the stock apple dongle will play
But just do 24/48…trust me, most people are not going to hear the difference higher than that and if they do then yeah they’ll buy an M11 with balanced out and DSD files. But as someone who has the higher end gear, I’m really enjoying Atmos and 24/48 for every day fun listening and new music exploring that turn into hi res purchases later for my FiiO M11
@@ProjectMockingbird You are so correct. I did a few months of research and just settled for listening up to 24/48 and decided against getting an audiophile set up/equipment so I could reach the hi-res lossless audio quality. There really is no point unless someone has the money to waste
Amazon lossless sounds better than Apple's lossless. Apple sounds ok at lower volume but gets harsh with volume level at same level as Amazon. Amazon sounds fuller without the harshness. I'm using a M1 Mac air with ipodpros. Wish Apple's sound was better cause I use all their hardware. I choose Amazon for now. Actually comparing "I guess that's why they call it the blues" Apple sounds better more clarity and space. But sometimes it just sounds too harsh
You can also get Amazon Music Unlimited cheaper if you're an Amazon Prime subscriber. If I was a regular Prime subscriber I'd definitely choose Amazon Prime Music (although they really need to work on their music discoverabiliy)
I picked up sennheiser hd660s yesterday and a dragonfly cobalt. Ran them on my ipad pro with the dragontail usbc and the headphone literaly have no bass at all. Im returning them tommarow. I dont really know what other options to go with.
Beyerdynamic dt770 or if you like lots of bass get Skullcandy’s. Try them with the $9 Apple Dongle DAC, and only if that’s not enough for you keep the Cobalt, otherwise return it.
I've never thought of them as lacking bass, but then again, I'm more of a flat eq curve guy. The DT770 (closed back) or DT990s (open backed) have some pretty decent bass.
Have you compared the lossless sound differences of say Tidal vs. Apple Music? I watched a video the other day where they said that Apple sounded better. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts.
That’s because Tidal uses a lot of MQA stuff instead of FLAC which is comparable to ALAC. MQA has been catching a lot of ire lately because I guess it isn’t “true lossless.” I can’t personally say whether that’s true or not because I’ve tried Tidal only a couple times whereas I’ve had Apple Music for forever, but that’s where the argument is probably coming from.
Human audio range is upto 20KHz. So, 44.1 KHz sampling rate is meaningful according to Nyquist sampling Theorem. But, 192KHz sampling rate means, audio has upto 90KHz frequencies. If our ears can't hear , how is it useful. Im just asking out of curiosity. Thanks from India.
What do you call it when you clearly hear a difference between a well encoded 256kbps aac file and the lossless source it was encoded from BUT fail miserably at a double ABX test? Answer: THE Placebo effect. Everyone should take that test for all their top music tracks to see if lossless is worth it. I listen to lossless because it's free, no other reason.
You really should. Get a headphone DAC/Amp and a decent set of headphones, Sennheiser HD 650’s are a great, affordable choice, hook it all up to a laptop and your good to go. Enjoy!!!!!
I got picked up sennheiser hd660s yesterday and a dragonfly cobalt. Ran them on my ipad pro with the dragontail usbc and the headphone literaly have no bass at all. Im returning them tommarow. I dont really know what other options to go with.
There are still iPad and Iphone users with Pods Max and Pods prothat think their cables will get them lossless audio. I think that Apple is setting them up for a huge expense down the road. Think pods pro are expensive now....wait until the "2" version that will play lossless....sort of.
I did not read the 160 comments, but does someone listen to apple music on Android? I don't plan on getting an iphone just yet, but I'm wondering if native Android limitations allow to listen to lossless when I connect an external DAC to my phone. Can anyone explain or point to a forum where I could find the answer?
You can get a hi res usb c dongle that supports hi res, but not very many Android phones have great audio output. I have the Samsung S20 FE, and even with the 32bit dongle the sound out of my iPhone is better overall, but both pale to a dedicated DAP
Just like music taste, I have listening levels when out and about or exercising loosless is great with basic ear/headphones, Then the next level is listening with good high end heaphones which ups the quality.
Apple doesn't charge extra for its lossless. But when you factor in the equipment you have to buy to get lossless I'm not seeing it. That's like if I could buy all the equipment then why would I use Apple in the first place.
I mean, just use or buy the $9 Apple dongle to 3.5mm and a pair of sub-$100 Grado SR-60’s and you’ll get full 24bit/48khz lossless out of the phone and one of every audiophiles favorite fun headphones. Yeah, it’s about $100 to do this, but I think it’s worth it
You definitely need to get the $9 Apple lightning to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter. It features a built-in DAC and supports up to 24/48. You also don't need fancy headphones. You can still use your Apple EarPods. I use those all the time. It keeps me wired into my iPhone and with the adapter I can take advantage of lossless. What more do you need?
1. He’s talking about wireless support of higher bitrates since he used LDAC and aptX as examples 2. I’m pretty sure that support is gonna come out at some point within a year or two
Downloading a 150meg music file to stream to your car's bluetooth audio system is a waste of bandwidth, and I am too focused on driving to think about the music. Besides. I can barely hear the difference with my home audio setup, so I turned off the HiRes option. My old ears are not up to the task.
Legit, bluetooth CANNOT provides excellent sound quality. The same set of (good) headphone even somehow sounds much different via phone and laptop (because of soundcards, I believe)
I don’t think lossless & spatial audio is enough to pull someone from a competing DSP. I’m trying it out; for one month, it is interesting. But I’ve be a Spotify premium member since 2016. Spotify’s services are a soundtrack for many of my experiences since 2016. And with UA-cam premium, Netflix, Amazon video, Disney + & HBOMAX that additional $10 could be spent on something else
I do not know whether the tha fact that I have bought a new AudioTechnica Headphone with Cable or the fact that I am now listening to some of my favourite albums in LossLess but I seem to find details in the Albums that I can't remember having heard prior. Small details like background speak in Amused to death by Roger Waters. It might be the the headphones or it might be details that was discarded by the lossy AAC codec.
@@kthunder5811 I originally listen to the CD on a roughly 2000 USD speaker receiver setup but that is years hence as I haven't had a CD player connected to my receiver for a very long time. Recently I have been listening to the Album on my two HomePods and I might be able to tell wether or not the extra details are due to the headphones or the lossless file when Apple releases the firmware update that enables lossless streaming on my HomePods.
@@munsukwon8393 saw a darko audio video where he says you'd need a USB player pro(a paid app) to actually bypass the android OS and get past 44kHz for playing Hi Res audio
As usual you complain about the imac and then buy one. I'm surprised your wife hasn't had a serious talk with you. You really have some kind of problem
@@lonelycake4114 Why do I need to try it? Wireless technology isn't capable of of true lossless audio unless it supports the LDAC Bluetooth codec,which Airplay doesn't support. Airplay in theory is capable of supporting lossless audio but the Homepod only supports AAC which is a lossy codec and not ALAC. So you're actually talking about something that could happen rather than what is presently happening
Great video! I agree, I can absolutely hear a difference in sound quality with Tidal Masters MQA. When listening thru my MacBook wired to a Cambridge Audio DacMagic 200M thru Focal Clears, on many recordings the sound is a revelation; stunning clarity, nuances I never heard. Truly remarkable.
We should all care. Better quality audio at no extra cost benefits us all (even if you don't listen to loseless audio yourself). Apple should've embraced loseless audio earlier like Tidal and Amazon did
Thank you for explaining the fact that Bluetooth has its deficiencies which is why I honestly cannot hear any difference when comparing lossless with compressed music for the most part. I guess it’s time to go back to wiring up my equipment. Again!
I couldn’t agree more. As a music producer I’m used to work with high resolution audio. I’m glad Apple included lossless audio in Apple Music for no extra charge! This is a real game changer when it comes to music streaming services. Bluetooth is lovely but cannot provide lossless audio. Transmitting such large files within the range Bluetooth operates is not possible (yet). It’s hard to tell if this will be available in the future. Nevertheless I prefer listening with a wired headphone. That’s where the real magic happens even on lossy codec. I listen on my iPad and iPhone with a good wired headphone from Sennheiser, AKG etcetera. My Mac is hooked up to my audio interface which outputs the balanced channels to my Adam Audio studio monitors. It’s really incredible what Apple pulled of here. The level of detail is astonishing with a setup like this. I definitely want to see you do a video about hearing the difference between lossy and lossless audio formats. There are people, *kuch Rick Beato, kuch, who ‘prove’ that even a well trained musician can’t hear any difference… That statement is false. A well trained ear, especially anyone in the music industry, can tell the difference between a shitty MP3 and a 24-bit/96kHz wave file. Even 48 and 44.1. (Sorry for my cursing in the former sentence). I have nothing against Rick Beato, I respect him for his great knowledge and experience in the music industry, but making such a bold statement within a video with only one person to validate his opinion is far from professional imho. I can go on and on about this but I won’t. Great video!
You forgot to mention the main paradigm shift presented by losses music: Its never been available before! Ever! High-end hifi gear, vinyl etc all coloured and essentially altered the music musicians committed to tape (or disk) in the studio. For the first time in history, on suitably-wired headphones, you will hear EXACTLY what the artist created. Thats huge 👍
just using the 3.5 jack on my M1 Mac mini through a Yamaha receiver and Polk speakers. I was pretty happy with the quality off ACC. I have to say I am surprised how much better lossless sounds. I was not expecting such a noticeable difference. I'm waiting for a Fosi ($80) DAC so I can try 24/192
Lossless Audio may be beneficial to a small part of the population. I don't think most people will actually be able to appreciate it. There have been a couple studies (double blind and randomized) where 90% of those tested could not tell whether music samples were from streaming UA-cam (256Kbps) vs the same samples from a CD (1411 Kbps @ 16 bit). ~90% of people (including some audiophiles) were flipping a coin as to which one had the better sound. Guessed right about 50% of the time. They could describe in detail why sample A was better (more airy, more open, spatial placement of instruments, etc). But then 10 minutes later would say the same exact thing about sample B. There are a few golden ears out there. ~10% tested could pick out the CD sample 85% of the time. I would postulate that anyone over age 40 would have a difficult time due to normal age related hearing loss. But being an audiophile is a hobby with many fun biases. Lossless audio is part of this fun hobby. If you know you are listening to lossless audio you WILL DEFINITELY hear a sound improvement (after central processing.) As human beings our minds work that way. Nothing wrong with it.
I'm over 40 (technically still 40 for the a few weeks) and can tell the difference but generally only on certain music genres and with tracks I'm very familiar with. You have to know what to listen for when comparing most of the time. It's more noticeable on music with instruments rather than Pop music, Hip Hop and Dance music that use less instrumentation
@@franklingoodwin With vision, most approaching 40 y.o. could start benefiting from some optical correction, especially for reading. There is a wide range of visual acuity among the population. A countless variety of prescriptions for glasses is possible. From no correction needed to severe visual impairment. Hearing is no different. There is a wide range of hearing acuity in the population, that sadly begins to worsen as we get older. Unfortunately we cannot correct auditory deficiencies as well as we can visual ones. Hearing aids are designed to help people understand language. They can boost a narrow range of frequency to help words be more clear. Say 500Hz to 4,000Hz. With typical hearing loss 2,000 Hz and above are the frequencies that are effected. Music has a range 20Hz to 20,000 Hz. (Only children can hear anything around the 20K mark.) When you start trying to boost frequencies above 5 or 6KHz with hearing aids feed back occurs (squealing.) You can cheat a little by taking sound above 6000Hz and moving it down to below 4,000Hz before amplifying it, but of course that distorts the sound of the music. My stereo system includes two 30-band graphic equalizers and a pink noise generator with calibrated microphone so I can balance the room to my seating position. The room may be balanced but since I have normal age related hearing loss (I am 67) I still have to adjust the mids and highs with my preamplifier which has an 8-band parametric equalizer. This allows me to shift frequency so the music sounds better to my ears. All very unscientific, and just a rough accommodation to a more complex problem. There is still a lot of detail I am missing in the upper range. The air around cymbals is gone for example. Maybe some day an audiologist will be able to write a subscription for "ear glasses" that will bring us back to auditory 20/20. Do a little experiment. When you are sitting and listening to your favorite music, cup both ears with your hands like you are trying to hear better (creating bigger ears in essence.) See what happens. If nothing, then you have great hearing. But if all of a sudden you can appreciate more upper range detail and "air" then you will get my point.
Dear David! You wrote this 2years ago and you are so right! Many blindtests have proved you right. Greetings from geir Røssaak, jessheim Norway!
The web site named Bandcamp is a place you can buy digital downloads (and sometimes CD's, DVD's, and other merchandise). Music buyers can select FLAC for download format, and for most albums that is supposed to be CD-quality lossless. *SOME* artists also release albums on Bandcamp which are higher that CD-quality, such as: 24 bit 96khz hi-resolution Studio Master version
Yeah, all of my records are available on Bandcamp.
Even though I know my bluetooth AirPods Max cannot stream lossless, I find that Lossless music on Apple Music sounds better than non-lossless music. Am I imagining this? Or is the music better even if I do not get the "full benefit" of lossless as it sounds improved to me. Would appreciate your opinion / answer. Thanks!
I like the going from 720 video to 4k video analogy. has pretty much all the pros and cons of video ( cost of equipment , resolution and file size issues...)
all the DAC's on amazon say...only a few left... I think it is going to blow up the streaming audio gear market
There plenty left
@@darickfoxo7986 do you have one yet is the question and will you buy another in the future...or put simply will the market for dac's and streaming boxes go up because of lossless steaming on multiple platforms
@@joetspaulding I have several and I brought one the other week
If you do any recording or are a musician, you probably have one or more interfaces lying about your studio or home . I have several. These devices are also DAC’s. I found one that I had from a while ago, an old e mu tracker that I plug my I phone into the mic inputs and get pristine audio at 192khz. It’s small enough to sit on my nightstand with out getting in the way of anything. Try it!
indeed, it’s a « Revolution » (high quality sound through wired headphones or speakers… as in my childhood ;)
About freaking time. This is a topic I've been passionate about for some time ... almost like when I hit pause on the youtube video to write this comment and then an add miraculously starts playing (yep just happened)- it's disrespectful. For DECADES we've been ROBBED of what the artist intended. I'll never forget the 1st time I purchased music off iTunes. 256kbps. What?? I paid full price for a fraction of the file?? Disrespect. And then the removal of headphone jacks was insult to injury (a bit melodramatic) but I know you understand. I still buy CDs and then rip them in lossless to my laptop, then whatever I love I compress to 320kbps and throw on the iPhone, which still hurts my soul. My car no longer has a CD player, which also hurts. Yes, until this year I still had a CD binder in the car. I haven't been able to make the transition to streaming indefinitely because I feel like once I purchase the CD, I have the full quality forever, without having to pay $15/month every months for the next 50 years. Yea I do the regular Spotify for casual listening or exploring new music, but when there's an album that is special I have to buy the CD. Maybe someday I'll turn, but I'm not there yet. Yes I can hear the difference. Music sounds more full across the board, lows, mids, highs. More fullness and tone; more air and space; more dynamics.
You are amazing at explaining this fabulous lossless audio. Tunes from my youth sound significantly better. We are bothe friends of Bill W. 4/11/2011 God bless
It’s kind of funny, but because of Apple lossless music, I started to learn more and more about “audio” and have been watching some UA-cam “audiophilc” videos. And now, I’m on my way to setup my very first Hi-Fi system with an amplifier, a CD player, network streamer, and a pair of really nice speakers. 😅
When I hear 24 bit material vs 16 material, the 24 bit has a noticeable sparkle to it to my ears.
I think if you blind test yourself you'll discover you can't truly hear a difference.
The reason everyone is talking about Apple music going lossless is because they beat Spotify to the punch at a competitive price point. Spotify announced their HiFi service, which will be launched at the end of 2021. Apple just one-upped them by launching now AND keeping the same price point for now. I believe, as hardware improves, 2, 3, maybe 5 years down the line they will change their price point. Me personally, I'll wait until Spotify launches HiFi to see what's what. I'm just very disappointed that smartphone manufacturers don't give a shit about this since most don't even have a headphone jack and the ones that do have crappy DACs and amps built in to them. LG was the only one that used a Quad-DAC setup, with a robust headphone jack amp, that gave you superior sound but they didn't include that on their last flagship the Velvet and are now out of the phone business for good. Who knows, maybe all this attention will be a wake up call for the others. I do not want to buy a $300-500 dedicated player for hi-res music. That's like when I had to carry a flip phone and iPod at the same time. So annoying!
I was planning to go for Sony XM4. I didn't. Instead I got HD569 and HD560s. Also got FiiO k3 and xDuuo Link2 (to pick one and send back the other). 560s is my first open back. So I don't know if it's the lossless audio or the fact that I've never used open back before, but I love the experience!
However, I'm still trying to understand the impact of these DAC/amps on the audio quality, details, etc. The increased volume is obvious. Though not sure if needed as my macbook seem to be driving them quite alright for the volume. I feel like noticing more clarity and better insturment seperation at times, but can't be sure. I'll try harder :)
If you have any track suggestion which I could spot any potential difference with and without DAC better, please shoot!
I describe it as noticing more volume dynamics, fullness at all frequencies, and more space and air. Follow-up here on which ones you end up keeping! I'm curious.
I had to EQ my 560s to boost the low end and get rid of the "Shoutiness" at certain higher freqs, then they were good. But just for giggles I bought some Focal Clears and the 560s just sit now. Im not sure the diff was worth $800 though. I have a dragonfly red on my PC with Amazon HD, and I'm not sure it sounds any better than the headphone jack on the puter with the Realtek HD music sound card.! But I do think the CDs on my computer sound better than the "Lossless" online files. Just a smidge fuller. Have fun!
@@drewpknutz1410 I actually ordered FiiO BTR5 and plan to keep that one as my dac/amp for the moment. In comparison with the ones I tried so far, I thought having the flexibility to not be tied to the desk would be nice. I think it also offers EQ settings so I may play with that a bit as well. We’ll see. I also tried AKG K361 in the meantime as I wasn’t so sure with HD569’s comfort. But 569 sounds a bit better to me and more importantly, provided a better isolation which is important for me for the closed back pair. K361 is also nice though. Very easy to listen. I’m just discovering it all and a lot of fun so far. Enjoy!
@@mootsym I guess I feel the dynamics part of it as well so far. I’ll just keep monitoring and when I get used to this, downgrade to regular AAC to see what I feel like missing :) Too many variables for me atm (headphones, lossless, dac/amp) so struggling to pin point what’s going on and which variable is the one causing it :D
Even if you can't hear the difference, there is no negative to having lossless audio.
I'd say most people can't hear a difference. I agree though. There's no real negative to having it. Unless you have 128 gb phone or something. Then it would just be best to download in 320 or 256 aac.
The real earth-shaking part of Apple's announcement is that they're providing the lossless versions for *Free* (or at least, "no extra cost over what they already charge"). There have been many other sources over the last 10 years, but always selling lossless-audio music at a premium price. And if a music retailer as huge as Apple is going to supply lossless audio for no extra cost, then everyone else who sells music has to at least *say* what they're doing with lossless.
This is all somewhat frustrating for me. I definitely want lossless versions of my music, and I've been ripping my CD's into ALAC format for at least 10 years now. However, I also want to listen using wireless headphones, and there's simply no way that bluetooth headphones can deliver the full quality of lossless audio.
I'm also still ripping CD's, but into WAV files lol
I use a program called "dBpoweramp Music Converter", which does an excellent job (IMO). Not only does it rip the CD's, but it calculates some checksums of the data it read in off the CD, and compares the checksums of the music data from your CD to checksums collected from other people who have ripped the same CD.
And it automatically connects to multiple crowd-sourced databases which know the song-titles for each CD. You can compare the titles found at each service and decide which title you prefer for each song. This saves a lot of typing!
I run it on macOS, but it's also available for Windows. => dbpowerapp .com
Does it work with car aux with beats sound system?
just got home from Apple park and picked up the airpod max. Still haven’t opened it, still debating if i need em
Returned them and buy some audiophile cans such as Sennheiser HD6XX, Hifiman Sundara , or even audio technica mx50 (wired) sound much better with these lossless & hi res audio file
And get some portable DAC with it such as Ifi hip dac or Fiio Q3..once you have those gears you will never go back to bluetooth
I love the look of your studio. One of the best in my opinion.
I own a xDuoo DAC and Preamp. XDuoo has also produced a 5.3 Bluetooth transmitter - MX-01. Plus a BluDento 5.2 Bluetooth dongle.
I use a Mac Mini to stream my Apple Music to my components.
I have a desktop audio setup that has spread out the space of my desk.
Unfortunately, I have no room for my computer set-up. I do have room nearby to setup my computer that relegates me to go cable-less and use Bluetooth.
My MX-01 and BluDento has been able to upgrade my components’ inputs from aptX only to aptX-HD and aptX-LL.
Maybe, there is a way to achieve Lossless transmission via Bluetooth.
This was a good video, thank you. Also enjoyed other videos on this topic from you. You concentrate a lot on headphones for lossless, do you have suggestions for DACs for full-fledged stereo systems with amps or receivers andspeakers? Also, what is your experience of lossless on HomePod originals?
Fine video. I got no DAC yet. I bought a pair of Rock Jaw Alfa Genus V2 and the sound is amazing
Very interesting video. I have the Liberty 3 Pro earbuds which are Bluetooth 5.2. When I was listening to a track on Amazon Music Unlimited, it did a breakdown of the quality of the track quality of the track from the recording quality, the source device and what the listening device was capable of and most of the time it displayed the quality as 16bit/44KHz to the headphones -
would this be correct? Also I read someone’s comment on another YT channel that Bluetooth 5.2 is capable of 24bit/48KHz. Is this correct? Also when listening to Lossless and Hi-Res Lossless on Apple Music through my Liberty 3 Pro earbuds, I can hear a difference. The Hi-Res setting sounds a bit louder and slightly more detailed so I’ve left my streaming settings to Hi-Res Lossless.
I've extensively tested out lossless (FLAC) vs lossy (mp3/Ogg) and could not hear the difference over wired headphones with discrete DAC(s). So I canceled my Qobuz and Deezer HiFi subscriptions and sticking with high bitrate compressed.
Haircut looks good JTL! Lossless is for me, well, reassurance.
Excellent presentation! I like your glasses. Where you bought it? 😂
This video is 2yrs old now do you think lossless can now be streamed via Bluetooth on the HomePod 2gen today?
There are codecs that get close but they are not lossless. HomePods work via Airplay 2
@@thejasontlewis i appreciate the response i didn’t know if you were going to, since the video was old. I just bought the HomePod and I was wondering.
Thanks for the comment on why Bluetooth headphones don’t really sound that different when playing a “lossless” track 🎧
Some dacs like the smsk su-8s have bluetooth input. Would that work with lossless or would you still have to be wired to carry file.
Lossy - think DVD quality. Lossless - think 4K quality.
Would be nice if the next Apple iPhone 12S (maybe it's called 13 or whatever) would have a reasonable DAC for HiRes audio inside and a headphone jack. But most likely I'm just a dreamer...
finally somebody gets it…that is exactly what is needed… it that would allow people to toss Apples dongles…would hurt their bottom line…this is all getting to crazy
My choice? Let’s just say that audio-technica 50xBT + red dragonfly usb dac + lightning to usb A adapter is coming in the mail soon 😁
Ifi hip dac pun best
On Mac OS Apple Music app. With lossless enabled and when skipping to random tracks across albums we are getting this deafening loud beep at the start of a song. Can you confirm if it’s occurring for you? It’s a serious problem that could potentially hurt listeners and damage equipment.
Not much or any mention of of other compression types such as FLAC, AAC, ATRAC4, etc. There are less lossy compression types that don’t require huge files, FLAC being the top choice. But since it’s license free, it won’t be utilized by streaming services.
Does someone has lossless offline stopping at 15 sec????? ITS MAKING ME GOING BACK TO SPOTIFY
Right??? And what’s with apple not including crossfade smh.
Jason, best review yet, especially about Bluetooth. Can you tell me if I can stream Lossless through my iPhone to my car audio? What about using an Astell &Kern DAP like the newer SP2000T maybe using their Bluetooth to stream Apple, Deezer, Tidal? Thanks so much
If your car is set up for those formats and you use a wired connection I would say it should work.
What is the best set up for this?
Audiophiles will care. Desk -bound WFH/ will appreciate it. Over time, as connectivity and device speed multi tasking improves, more and more people will opt for it. Apple waited until a certain user/ connectivity threshold to open up this feature. Apple SHOULD do it if they want to maintain a leadership in audio. Why wouldn’t they?
I love your videos, keep the good work !!!
I totally agree between the loss and lossless…..
It seems ironic that Apple, the company that’s been pushing us towards a wireless listening experience is now bringing out lossless audio for which we do need a wired connection for listening. It is like the hardware part of the company does not know what the audio part of the company is doing
What about Itunes? Is that lossless?
I have grado sr80e and a dragonfly black 1.5 dac - sounds great
Question: Are most Apple lossless files really 24/48 or 16/44? Based on what I see available on my hi res music buying sites there isn’t a ton of 24/48 out there yet. I wish the Apple Music app showed that info like PowerAmp and other apps do.
It does. You have to tap on the lossless logo
@@thejasontlewis ahhh, gotcha
Have you taken the ABX test?
Please do a video about Atmos. Completely confusing. I understand that at the most it is intended for systems that include height speakers. It’s gets confusing if your audio setup is 7.1/5.1/2 channel/headphones. I’m getting some understanding that Atmos will automatically change to everything which does not include dedicated height speakers but I am not sure and confused. Thank you.
I’ve subscribed.
Like the haircut:-)
Heyy quick question can i differentiate between 320 kbps & a 24 bit 48khz audio??
am gonna stick with my hi res wired earbuds and lightning to 3 and a half mm dac with my iphone to listen to 24bit 48khz songs for now!
I heard the ears can't go beyond 16bit 44khz cd quality if am right!
No, you can hear the difference.
And we’re still listening to unbalanced output. The moment I got my FiiO M11 and balanced output with dual dacs the amount of nuance, separation and detail in a DSD, or 24/48 or higher flac is very noticeable
Nice haircut
"Is it worth it?" Worth what? It doesn't cost anything if you're an Apple Music subscriber.
"Should you care?" Not if you mostly listen with bluetooth headphones, HomePods, AirPlay, CarPlay, or bluetooth speakers.
But if you have a good stereo and DAC, Apple Lossless lets you enjoy the massive Apple Music catalog in CD-quality sound--or better. It's definitely worth it.
There are already millions of folks who subscribe to TIDAL, Qobuz, or other lossless/hi-res streaming service and already know about this stuff.
Apple should be pushing Audio like there camera tech, if Apple wants more users to come over from Android, Audio is one way of achieving it. 👍
I've experience loud static noise during streaming lossless albums with logo APPLE DIGITAL MASTERS (for example - score from the movie "Soul" Jon Batiste, first track) But it works fine downloaded. Scary as hell. Any sugestions? Greets
Is lossless is as good as playing vinyl? Given they have the same output sepakers etc..
Vinyl technically has less dynamic range than CD 16/44 or “hi res” 24/48 or higher…but vinyl has a warm sound that digital lossless just doesn’t have.
Short answer is not really. Not many people can hear a difference. Even the people that can have to listen intently. Lossless digital audio is a great source to store on harddrives when you want to compress later.
You are so right!
if you are already and apple music subscriber... of course its worth it.... it will cost you $0 ..... well except the cost of an external DAC that is needed to play higher quality than the 24/48 that the stock apple dongle will play
But just do 24/48…trust me, most people are not going to hear the difference higher than that and if they do then yeah they’ll buy an M11 with balanced out and DSD files.
But as someone who has the higher end gear, I’m really enjoying Atmos and 24/48 for every day fun listening and new music exploring that turn into hi res purchases later for my FiiO M11
@@ProjectMockingbird You are so correct. I did a few months of research and just settled for listening up to 24/48 and decided against getting an audiophile set up/equipment so I could reach the hi-res lossless audio quality. There really is no point unless someone has the money to waste
Amazon lossless sounds better than Apple's lossless. Apple sounds ok at lower volume but gets harsh with volume level at same level as Amazon. Amazon sounds fuller without the harshness. I'm using a M1 Mac air with ipodpros. Wish Apple's sound was better cause I use all their hardware. I choose Amazon for now. Actually comparing "I guess that's why they call it the blues" Apple sounds better more clarity and space. But sometimes it just sounds too harsh
You can also get Amazon Music Unlimited cheaper if you're an Amazon Prime subscriber. If I was a regular Prime subscriber I'd definitely choose Amazon Prime Music (although they really need to work on their music discoverabiliy)
I picked up sennheiser hd660s yesterday and a dragonfly cobalt. Ran them on my ipad pro with the dragontail usbc and the headphone literaly have no bass at all. Im returning them tommarow. I dont really know what other options to go with.
Beyerdynamic dt770 or if you like lots of bass get Skullcandy’s. Try them with the $9 Apple Dongle DAC, and only if that’s not enough for you keep the Cobalt, otherwise return it.
I've never thought of them as lacking bass, but then again, I'm more of a flat eq curve guy. The DT770 (closed back) or DT990s (open backed) have some pretty decent bass.
Have you compared the lossless sound differences of say Tidal vs. Apple Music? I watched a video the other day where they said that Apple sounded better. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts.
That’s because Tidal uses a lot of MQA stuff instead of FLAC which is comparable to ALAC. MQA has been catching a lot of ire lately because I guess it isn’t “true lossless.” I can’t personally say whether that’s true or not because I’ve tried Tidal only a couple times whereas I’ve had Apple Music for forever, but that’s where the argument is probably coming from.
@@christianscrogins663 thank you 🙏 that’s really interesting.
Human audio range is upto 20KHz. So, 44.1 KHz sampling rate is meaningful according to Nyquist sampling Theorem.
But, 192KHz sampling rate means, audio has upto 90KHz frequencies. If our ears can't hear , how is it useful.
Im just asking out of curiosity.
Thanks from India.
It's not really useful, but I know I feel good knowing I have the music at the best possible quality.
What do you call it when you clearly hear a difference between a well encoded 256kbps aac file and the lossless source it was encoded from
BUT fail miserably at a double ABX test?
Answer: THE Placebo effect.
Everyone should take that test for all their top music tracks to see if lossless is worth it.
I listen to lossless because it's free, no other reason.
Btw is it possible to save lossless audio on my old ipod video? Or does it need wifi?
i’m not an audiophile but i’m interested in trying out lossless
You really should. Get a headphone DAC/Amp and a decent set of headphones, Sennheiser HD 650’s are a great, affordable choice, hook it all up to a laptop and your good to go. Enjoy!!!!!
I got picked up sennheiser hd660s yesterday and a dragonfly cobalt. Ran them on my ipad pro with the dragontail usbc and the headphone literaly have no bass at all. Im returning them tommarow. I dont really know what other options to go with.
There are still iPad and Iphone users with Pods Max and Pods prothat think their cables will get them lossless audio. I think that Apple is setting them up for a huge expense down the road. Think pods pro are expensive now....wait until the "2" version that will play lossless....sort of.
I did not read the 160 comments, but does someone listen to apple music on Android? I don't plan on getting an iphone just yet, but I'm wondering if native Android limitations allow to listen to lossless when I connect an external DAC to my phone. Can anyone explain or point to a forum where I could find the answer?
You can get a hi res usb c dongle that supports hi res, but not very many Android phones have great audio output. I have the Samsung S20 FE, and even with the 32bit dongle the sound out of my iPhone is better overall, but both pale to a dedicated DAP
when will youtube music offer loseless?
My device don't support Apple Lossless 😕 .
Just like music taste, I have listening levels when out and about or exercising loosless is great with basic ear/headphones, Then the next level is listening with good high end heaphones which ups the quality.
Apple doesn't charge extra for its lossless. But when you factor in the equipment you have to buy to get lossless I'm not seeing it. That's like if I could buy all the equipment then why would I use Apple in the first place.
I mean, just use or buy the $9 Apple dongle to 3.5mm and a pair of sub-$100 Grado SR-60’s and you’ll get full 24bit/48khz lossless out of the phone and one of every audiophiles favorite fun headphones.
Yeah, it’s about $100 to do this, but I think it’s worth it
You definitely need to get the $9 Apple lightning to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter. It features a built-in DAC and supports up to 24/48.
You also don't need fancy headphones. You can still use your Apple EarPods. I use those all the time. It keeps me wired into my iPhone and with the adapter I can take advantage of lossless. What more do you need?
People have been listening to lossless since the 80’s.
Actually, vinyl is lossless, too. But you obtusely missed my point to make this comment.
If you are using AirPods, no. Because you’re hearing the same AAC. Apple needs to release ALAC support at least like Android with aptx or LDAC
the iPhone 12pro supports FLAC which is lossless.....
1. He’s talking about wireless support of higher bitrates since he used LDAC and aptX as examples
2. I’m pretty sure that support is gonna come out at some point within a year or two
All iPhones support FLAC. No iPhones support FLAC over Bluetooth.
@@philippesandmeier3736 what the others said. FLAC wired or with their speakers. Not Bluetooth.
@@MM-cs2rt agreed; I should have been more precise; but wired, you can enjoy FLAC (or lossless) off your iPhone....
nice vid
Downloading a 150meg music file to stream to your car's bluetooth audio system is a waste of bandwidth, and I am too focused on driving to think about the music. Besides. I can barely hear the difference with my home audio setup, so I turned off the HiRes option. My old ears are not up to the task.
Who said anything about your car?
Legit, bluetooth CANNOT provides excellent sound quality.
The same set of (good) headphone even somehow sounds much different via phone and laptop (because of soundcards, I believe)
You should really touch on the fact that me and most of the world have android and can't get apple lossless music...😩
At least Spotify will have us covered in a few months
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@@aquapogs4338 Woah nice
Whutever
Amazon hd exists for everyone
Mp3 sounds digital artifacts
I don’t think lossless & spatial audio is enough to pull someone from a competing DSP. I’m trying it out; for one month, it is interesting. But I’ve be a Spotify premium member since 2016. Spotify’s services are a soundtrack for many of my experiences since 2016. And with UA-cam premium, Netflix, Amazon video, Disney + & HBOMAX that additional $10 could be spent on something else
Does anybody notice a difference?
I do not know whether the tha fact that I have bought a new AudioTechnica Headphone with Cable or the fact that I am now listening to some of my favourite albums in LossLess but I seem to find details in the Albums that I can't remember having heard prior. Small details like background speak in Amused to death by Roger Waters. It might be the the headphones or it might be details that was discarded by the lossy AAC codec.
that depends on what headphones you were listening with before
In my experience. lossy files lose depth and dimension. some of that background stuff does get lost.
@@kthunder5811 I originally listen to the CD on a roughly 2000 USD speaker receiver setup but that is years hence as I haven't had a CD player connected to my receiver for a very long time. Recently I have been listening to the Album on my two HomePods and I might be able to tell wether or not the extra details are due to the headphones or the lossless file when Apple releases the firmware update that enables lossless streaming on my HomePods.
You have great taste in your music as exemplified by you listening to Amused To Death!! Kudos to you!!!
More interested in Spotify lossless
Because it doesn’t exist?
@@thejasontlewis yet
Can I get 24 bit/192 kHz on android somehow like using a external DAC, Is it possible??
With Qobuz. Yes. For MQA, you can use Tidal.
@@munsukwon8393 saw a darko audio video where he says you'd need a USB player pro(a paid app) to actually bypass the android OS and get past 44kHz for playing Hi Res audio
However, its not what came out of the studio if the track was sent as a mp3
2:15 thank me later
As usual you complain about the imac and then buy one. I'm surprised your wife hasn't had a serious talk with you. You really have some kind of problem
I find your lossless videos are getting a bit repetitive. All of this could have been put in half the amount of videos
Airplay can do lossless
It definitely can't
@@franklingoodwin
Yes it can
@@franklingoodwin
Why dont you try it before calling people out
@@lonelycake4114 Why do I need to try it? Wireless technology isn't capable of of true lossless audio unless it supports the LDAC Bluetooth codec,which Airplay doesn't support. Airplay in theory is capable of supporting lossless audio but the Homepod only supports AAC which is a lossy codec and not ALAC. So you're actually talking about something that could happen rather than what is presently happening
@@franklingoodwin
But it says lossless when i airplay
Smsl
Great video! I agree, I can absolutely hear a difference in sound quality with Tidal Masters MQA. When listening thru my MacBook wired to a Cambridge Audio DacMagic 200M thru Focal Clears, on many recordings the sound is a revelation; stunning clarity, nuances I never heard. Truly remarkable.