Well done Josh! I 💯 agree with this car being better than the Corolla in terms of full ICE. I would also recommend people to take either the LX or Sport trim over the EX and Touring mainly due to still-questionable reliability of the 1.5L turbo engine. I do want to correct you about the base model though. Honda did released the LX trim when the 2022 Civic first came out. The MSRP for 2022 LX was $22,550 (including destination charge). Announced from October 2022, they initially discontinued it for 2023 and so on. However, due to rising demands to bring it back, the LX trim returns to the lineup and continues for most of 2023 and then 2024. This also lead to their decisions to bring the LX trim back for the Honda CR-V and Honda Pilot as well.
Hello! I completely agree with the base engine being more reliable and I personally didn’t feel a need to have any more power than was available! That’s also really interesting I wonder if it was a regional thing or something they tried out for specific markets because I can tell you here in my area they never offered an LX and it didn’t arrive until the following model year (same with our CR-V here, it was EX as base at launch for the first full year and I know that because I’d been shopping for one and was annoyed by the lack of an LX base model, LOL!)
Just delightful. Completely agree with your enthusiastic take on the car. I just bought a CRV touring sport - which I love - and the truth is that this Civic is virtually identical to the inside of my car. Which is a great thing. Honda's are safe, simple and just enjoyable to own and drive.
Hello! Your son has a great car, in that case! :) And yes, they absolutely do go on without any problems. Directly before this, Ina had a 2008 Civic that she kept for 15 years without any major issues and right before Jeff’s 2019 Insight he had a 2002 Civic that also ran for 15 years with no major issues.
great video. I have only owned Honda and Toyota products (including Acura and Lexus) for the past 25 years and feel comfortable buying and driving either … both feel like “home” at this point.
Thank you! Same here to everything except Acura because by the time I could afford an Acura, they’d gotten rid of the one I always wanted (the final gen TL with the 3.7L SHAWD). But totally agree, I feel comfortable buying and driving either at this point. Minus the few that have had turbo and transmission issues in the last 5 years.
@@joshjamescars Consider yourself blessed that you didn't purchase the 3.7L SH-AWD. I had the 2010 model with the 6-speed manual. It was going to be my long-term car, but there were issues with oil consumption with this engine. This was really uncommon with Honda/Acura engines at the time. The 3.5L engine on the other hand was rock solid. There's a reason Honda / Acura dropped the 3.7L from its stable. With the current Honda models, stay away from. the 1.5T engine. Blown head gasket issues after 3-4 years. The naturally aspirated 2.0L engines as is the case in your mom's car are the way to go. My 2014 Accord with the 2.4L naturally aspirated engine with the CVT is about to hit 200k. This is the idea with my ES and GX as well 😊.
@lji2000 I had no idea! But yes! That 3.7 SHARES-AWD fully loaded with the manual was exactly what I was thinking of, haha! Guess I dodged a bullet there. And like you said, while newer engines have had a lot of problems, I’m surprised that one did too. And yes, I completely agree I’m not interested in Honda or Toyotas turbos. Keeping our V6 Camry and V8 GX for as long as we can!
Great review! I just bought the 2024 Civic Sport in January. I like the larger wheels and leather wrapped steering wheel. But the LX model is great buy and a perfect entry level sedan in this class.
Love your review of this Civic! So funny hearing your mom’s warning. 😂🤣 I bought a brand new 2023 Civic Touring sedan in January 2023. I’d been driving my ‘02 Civic LX (7th gen) for 18 years and desperately needed a new(er) car. Honda went back to their design roots and absolutely knocked it out of the park with the 11th gen redesign! I love the understated, polished exterior paired with the semi-luxury interior. The long, low hood and LED headlights are so sharp! Mine is meteorite metallic gray with a two-tone black/gray interior (gray seats). I think the gray has a slight blue undertone to it. Adding the subtle sparkle makes it just gorgeous. Very classy! It’s a beautiful car and I’m super happy with it. We’re a Honda family and Honda’s interior build quality always felt more premium than Toyota to me. And for all the reasons you said, I’d highly recommend the 11th gen Civic! My only gripe is it’s so BIG! It’s now the size of a ‘90’s Accord! 🤨 (Definitely not a fan of that.)
That’s fantastic!! The touring is a great car with the Bose sound system too. My mom traded in a white 08 Civic for this one and my dad also had an 02 Civic LX which he traded in for an Insight back in 2020. They are also a Honda family. And my mom has the same complaint about the size of the new Civic. When I was growing up in the early 90s, she had an Accord wagon and purposely downsized to the civic once I was driving on my own. That “downsize” has now gotten her right back to the same size car as her old Accord. She also looked at the HR-V but that has grown substantially too and so she crossed it off the list. And I completely agree-the Civic has always (oddly) been way more upscale looking inside and out than the Corolla. I love my Toyotas but I don’t know why Toyota can’t make a premium looking compact sedan. My mom’s 08 Civic was WORLDS better than the dumpy Corolla of the time. Congrats on the new car and I hope it gives you another 21 years of driving!
@@joshjamescarsWhen I bought it, inventory shortages were still a huge issue. My first choice is a Honda Civic, but my local Honda dealership had had no inventory for over 2 years! So I figured I might consider a Corolla. But Toyota’s inventory was worse than Honda’s! They had absolutely NOTHING for me to even test drive. Honda had finally just started getting inventory again when I bought. I’d gotten some money together and I saw a few new Civics on their website had just come in. So I immediately ran down to grab one before someone else did. I was fortunate to get one with gray seats instead of black. I’m super interested in a Corolla Cross. I’ve never had an SUV. I need small-ish, inexpensive vehicles. And I’m single with no kids, so a RAV 4 is a bit much. But even now, good luck even finding a Corolla Cross to test drive!
Excellent video and I agree with every point you make about the new Honda Civic. We ended up buying a 2025 Civic Sport with the 2.0L (non-turbo) engine $250.00 below MRSP for my wife to replace her 2010 Corolla. The 2025 Sport is even better now with standard blind spot monitoring and heated power side mirrors.
Awesome!! That’s the engine to buy-the 1.5T has been phased out now that the hybrid is coming, and I don’t think many people will miss the 1.5T and its issues.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the LX! You might want to compare the Sport to see if the extra features (namely alloy wheels) are worth it for you, but I’d personally be perfectly happy with this. I also wouldn’t touch any of the 1.5T trims due to the dilution issues people have had with the turbo.
Just got a 24 hatch sport 2.0 phenomenal car i had a 24 lx accord had it two mnths faulty springs this lil car blows away the accords and corollas!! I have friends with a 23 nightshade camry and a 22 trd . They love this car. Honda knocked it out of the park! Btw i love toyotas too!!
Well, it depends what you consider OK. It’s nowhere even close to my Lexus’ Mark Levinson stereo but this also costs about 1/3 the price of my GX. It’s a base model economy car, and that’s the kind of quality you’ll get. The Civic Touring has a much better Bose stereo (but is also around $30K MSRP). I’d go and test drive one and see for yourself.
Like you, Josh, I have been a huge Toyota/Lexus fan for many years. Our youngest kid was heading back to school on the West Coast last fall, and I could no longer feel safe having him drive his 2012 Subaru solo the 2000+ mile trip back to college. I had been in a rental Corolla for a couple of weeks prior when my Lexus was in the bodyshop, and I found it to be loud, underpowered and cheaply made. Nonetheless, I was willing to consider a Corolla hybrid to replace his older car, primarily for the gas mileage. We also test drove a 2023 Civic LX hathcback and purchased one about two weeks later. The level of fit and finish and driving comfort is waaaay ahead of the Corolla and our old Subaru. Also, no Toyota dealer nonsense with "market adjustments" and very limited inventory. By the way, the hatchback LX comes with some decently attractive 16" alloy wheels in place of those cheapo wheelcovers and rides better than than the Sport trim with its 18" wheels 👍
That’s amazing!!! How lucky he is to have such wonderful parents, LOL! The Civic hatch is such a handsome car, too. Personally if I was going to buy one I’d buy the hatch too. And that’s great to know about the hatch coming with alloys, it would definitely be my choice (my mother couldn’t care less about that, sadly). Anyhow, thanks so much for sharing and I hope that Civic brings him another 12+ years of safe and fun driving! Cheers!
Yes! Whenever Ina goes out to buy a new car she buys the cheapest version of the car that she can, hence this LX. And for her, I think it’s a better fit since she can just replace a hubcap if she scrapes them (versus the black alloys). 😂
Also, that’s terrific that they’re discounting the Sport! That’s probably the one I would buy as well. Even though I don’t like black wheels I’d deal with it for the price and since the EX gets the turbo engine which I don’t care for.
Your mom did well by getting the 2.0 NA Honda engine and Honda’s CVTs are some of the best in the industry. My friend’s 2013 Accord with a CVT has almost 300,000 miles on the clock and it has never had any issues with the transmission. Mom will get many years of reliable transportation out of that base Civic.
Here’s hoping! My parents have been Honda people for the last 40 some years, every 15 years or so, they buy a new one. From an 86 Civic and 92 Accord wagon to an 02 Civic and an 08 Civic to now a 19 Insight and 23 Civic! My only buying Toyota and Lexus is such a disappointment to them, lol!
I like how the base model doesnt have a turbo. I dont like cvts but tbh it comes down to how long it lasts and if it does bust is it going to be financially ruining or not. That plays a factor.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the Civic, especially the LX and Sport with the 2.0L naturally aspirated engine. My parents always buy Civics and their last two have lasted them over 15 years each with no major issues.
I’m so curious what your opinion might be when you drive the new integra! (And how lucky of you to have grown up on those islands, absolutely beautiful! Was that kaua’i?)
Hello! For me the Integra is just too expensive to even consider. I think it looks hot but they didn’t make any changes beyond the body to a Civic. You get the same engines, same CVT (and same manual), and same dashboard and screens that you get in the Civic so personally I’d go with a Civic hatch instead. Now, the Type S is interesting but $50K is a little much for a Civic/Integra. Also nope, not Kauai that was just the Eastern end of Oahu out by Hawaii Kai and Hanauma Bay on the way to Kaneohe.
I have a Civic Touring but have driven the LX and it’s a great car too! The only thing I wish Honda would do is make BSI standard on all vehicles. Also a side note: the 1.5L is sturdy and reliable. Just give it proper maintenance and don’t be a fool redlining it every time you drive .
👍🏻👍🏻 Went to kiwi in 04 came home and sold our 10 year old Civic and bought a car like we had rented there just New. Kept it until now. Here I see a video from Hawaii about a Civic and got one just went for a sport touring but still I found it funny.
I’m not sure if I’d be able to get my hands on one but I’ll also tell you I’m definitely not the most knowledgeable about what the Type-R buyer is looking for. My interests tend to gravitate toward trucks. 😅
Glad to see you review a Honda. Hope you will do more. I am waiting until the hybrid civic hatch makes it here. May be a long wait to get one, but, think I would like it a lot even with the wait. And, would consider the HRV if they put a hybrid in it.
Yes! I was so glad to be able to do a video on a Honda an definitely hope to do more in the future. I also am so excited to see how the new Civic does when it comes to market! I think if they can nail the price it’ll be a no brainer. Honda’s hybrid system is less efficient than Toyota’s due to its serial-hybrid design but I’m hoping we can see around 45mpg real world.
I’m not impressed with the 23&24 civic. I wish you had a chance to try the old Honda Civic 2020,2021, even 2018. Those civics were great as far as driving feel, music, seats. You need to test drive the 23 hrv. The drive feel is better then the accord.
I actually have had a chance to and I disagree entirely. The Insight from the same generation was better but personally I think this Civic is a much better car. I also wasn’t crazy about the looks of the 2016+ Civic it was so busy and looks dated. But to each their own!
I 100% think the base model Civic is way better than the base Corolla, you get more goodies, like push to start standard, a half digital gauge, one thing I’ll give to Corolla LE is that the infotainment screen a bit bigger, but altogether interior quality and design goes to the Civic, im looking to lease one as my first car, the LX trim and I think it’s a perfect first car
Terrific!! The only thing I’ll say is that in today’s world with interest rates being really high your best bet is to buy the car, put as much down as you can, and finance it at the lowest rate you can. Civics hold their value like crazy so it’s a great, safe buy. If you want to trade in 3 years you can, but you can also keep it for however long you want. :)
I just bought that same car yesterday and can confirm most of what you said. I'm pretty sure my dash grill isn't metal though. Mine is black. Why did I get black? I'm going back to white on my next one. Do you know how to force Iheart onto the AA media screen?
That’s interesting! It definitely felt like metal to me. And no, sadly I don’t use Android so I’m not familiar with how to do that, though I’m sure there’s a way to customize what apps come up by default.
Great review! As someone who prefers an extremely light steering feel since it’s easier to drive, I think I prefer the Corolla. However I wouldn’t have known of the Civic’s heavy steering feel if it weren’t for your video so gracias mi sicario!!
Light steering can definitely be really nice! Depending how much you’re looking to spend the Prius is another great choice with Toyota’s light steering.
I think you need to look into what a CVT is. A CVT itself doesn’t have any “power” it’s a transmission that translates the power of the engine into forward motion for the wheels. Honda’s CVTs are very good. But the best civic to buy in 2025 is the hybrid which doesn’t use a traditional CVT but rather a single speed reduction gear like in an EV.
As of now, the only Honda cars that have wireless CarPlay are the ones with the 9-inch or 12-inch screens (and even then I think only 2024+ models). So this one does not.
I think it depends on your needs. Camry is a size class bigger and can get much more expensive depending on how you spec it. We have and love our Camry, though. Corolla hybrid is by far the most efficient and cheapest car you can get. And there is a civic hybrid coming out later this year. That’s the one I would wait for if you’re not in a rush.
They’re very different at the moment. We have to wait to see what the 2025 Civic Hybrid will be like (price, efficiency, etc.) to have a truly 1:1 comparison. I suspect that the civic will be cheaper but will be missing features like a panoramic moonroof, 360-camera, and AWD.
Just curious...I have read info regarding that getting in and out of a civic both front and rear seats including the drivers seat) is extremely difficult and had to get in and out of and not much room in the back seat. I am 5'5" tall and weigh 165 lbs. Would this car be difficult for me to get in and out of as a driver and passenger. I really like the car just curious about room. Thanks.
You’re smaller than I am and I had no issues so I think you’ll be fine, although it’s always going to be harder getting into and out of a sedan than a crossover. Go and check one out at a dealer and see for yourself! :)
Hello! I think what’s causing you noise are the tires and not the wheels. Try out a good set of Michelins and see if that makes a difference. Tires come in a variety of price points for a reason.
$24,000 MSRP on the paper. After taxes/ registration fees/other paper work fees, the total came out to $29,350. If you finance, you will be paying additional $4,000 for the total interest. So at the end, this LX base model will run you the total of around $33,000!!!!!!! So it's not the cheapest car under 25,000 car at all. Numbers do run up real quick at the dealer ship. Just bought my 2024 LX in December of 2023. But it a great car though. And the V-Tec really pull Bro Dude!!
Yes, I think everyone knows that MSRP isn’t the actual number you pay, and taxes and other fees vary widely by locale. You paid a ton in taxes and fees, yikes! And you are right at the finance charges, that’s why it’s super important to try as best you can to pay it off as quickly as possible so you don’t pay one more cent than you have to. And congratulations on the new car! It’s a terrific little commuter!
I just picked up a Civic EX for $29,045 total OTD! Including taxes and destination! No dealer fees! 4.9% Honda financing compared to my local bank at 8.59% and the local credit unions at 6.4%-6.7%.
@@joshjamescars Thanks. I know they have moved the civic assembly a few times, like great Britain, Indiana, and now Ontario. And they use robots too, so maybe that's why. I wonder if the hrv is easier to do oil change than the civic. ua-cam.com/video/DEEetLMsIDY/v-deo.htmlsi=43OCw3beWJhqSaIk Here, Scotty is being brutally honest again. Could be one off though.
Every car in the world outside of a Bentley or Rolls Royce is made on an automated, robotic assembly line. This isn’t the 50s. And as for servicing do be aware that in a modern car the oil change is just one small part of a total vehicle service. There’s a lot to do with software updates and inspecting and maintaining the cameras, radar, and other tech hardware that are standard on all vehicles now too.
Haha! The Corolla hybrid is an outstanding car, though. I would have no regrets. Also, I’m almost certain that the Civic hybrid won’t be able to match its efficiency just because of the way Honda’s serial hybrid system works versus Toyota’s parallel hybrid system does.
I’m a Toyota person who grew up in a Honda household so I’ve always been pretty open to either one. Honda kind of lost their way for a bit with their turbos and transmissions having reliability issues, and now I feel like Toyota is a bit in terms of their astronomical pricing and lower quality interior materials. So for me it just depends who has the best product and this is an outstanding one! Plus there will be a hybrid coming this year too.
What would you say to someone that is on the fence to buying one because it is one of the most stolen cars? How does its reliability compare to a Corolla?
The fact of the matter is theft can happen to any car out there. Look what’s happening in eastern Canada. All makes and models get stolen. You also have to look at the crime rate in your area. If theft is a legitimate problem and you don’t have a way to combat it like parking in a locked garage or something, you might not want to get a brand new car. Get some cheap used car that isn’t as attractive to thieves. And be sure to have good insurance which will replace the car should it get stolen. Reliability is good though the Corolla hybrid will be not reliable than either gas model.
Personally I prefer the looks of the civic and then the interior materials, interior design, and ride quality of the Civic is so far above and beyond the Corolla for just about the same price.
Ohhh lord...y'all we done lost a soldier, he bout to sell all his Toyota/Lexus for Honda/Acura.jk Compared to Corolla , I think Honda nailed with their new line.
Haha!! No, the sad part is Acura doesn’t make anything I’m interested in. I loved the final-gen TL with the 3.7 V6 and SH-AWD but after that, their cars kind of just faded off into the land of mediocrity where Infiniti is (I’m also worried Lexus seems to be headed there too). But Honda as a mainstream brand is killing it!
@@joshjamescars agree. My problem with Lexus... They are becoming to much American for me, they are losing that Japanese finish touch. I find myself looking at old Lexus products than the new ones.
a cheap car compared to everything else* unfortunately car prices have just creeped up over the years, my mom bought a 2017 toyota camry se for around $25-27k which is how much you'll pay for a civic sport today! However I do agree with you though that the civic is a great car at this price range and especially the lower trims with the 2.0 na engine which is a better engine than the 1.5 for reliability imo, I also like the design this time around and the driving/safety features you get.
Right, “cheap” is always going to be relative. You’d have said the same thing in 2017 about the Camry relative to what a 2012 would have cost as well. And, relative to the fact that a Tacoma tops out at $65K today, $23K is incredibly cheap for a new car in 2024.
I understand that. But at this price point for economical transportation I think the CVT is more than fine for this car. The place it doesn’t belong is in the Integra…
Nope it’s always been offered as the “automatic” transmission option for the Integra. Since the Integra is a lightly upgraded Civic they kept the same CVT instead of giving it the dual clutch from the old ILX.
Actually their issues have to do with the ZF transmission that was shared with GM and Chrysler and their newer turbo engines self destructing. So I wouldn’t buy any of those. But their hybrids and naturally aspirated base engines are solid and very dependable because they’re all based on older and proven designs. But I wouldn’t rule out an American made Honda. They’ve been building cars in Ohio for longer than I’ve been alive and my parents have both had cars from that plant that have lasted 15+ years with no major issues.
Well done Josh! I 💯 agree with this car being better than the Corolla in terms of full ICE. I would also recommend people to take either the LX or Sport trim over the EX and Touring mainly due to still-questionable reliability of the 1.5L turbo engine. I do want to correct you about the base model though. Honda did released the LX trim when the 2022 Civic first came out. The MSRP for 2022 LX was $22,550 (including destination charge). Announced from October 2022, they initially discontinued it for 2023 and so on. However, due to rising demands to bring it back, the LX trim returns to the lineup and continues for most of 2023 and then 2024. This also lead to their decisions to bring the LX trim back for the Honda CR-V and Honda Pilot as well.
Hello! I completely agree with the base engine being more reliable and I personally didn’t feel a need to have any more power than was available! That’s also really interesting I wonder if it was a regional thing or something they tried out for specific markets because I can tell you here in my area they never offered an LX and it didn’t arrive until the following model year (same with our CR-V here, it was EX as base at launch for the first full year and I know that because I’d been shopping for one and was annoyed by the lack of an LX base model, LOL!)
The only thing that civic needs is a temp gauge not just the light
Just delightful. Completely agree with your enthusiastic take on the car. I just bought a CRV touring sport - which I love - and the truth is that this Civic is virtually identical to the inside of my car. Which is a great thing. Honda's are safe, simple and just enjoyable to own and drive.
Thank you so much! And yes! I love both the CR-V Sport Touring and this Civic!
Our son has a Civic and he really likes the car ,it just goes with out any problems.It was nice to see your Mom. 🇨🇦👍👍
Hello! Your son has a great car, in that case! :) And yes, they absolutely do go on without any problems. Directly before this, Ina had a 2008 Civic that she kept for 15 years without any major issues and right before Jeff’s 2019 Insight he had a 2002 Civic that also ran for 15 years with no major issues.
Great job Josh! Love it. Thanks for adding Hondas to the mix as much as possible. Really value your perspective.
Thank you! And yeah I really want to find a way to do more Honda videos because I’ve been so very impressed with their products as of late!
Awesome to hear@@joshjamescars . I subscribe and will look forward to future Honda reviews, along with Toyota and Lexus and anything else. :-)
does appear to be a great value - loved all the details about the metal vents and the sound of the door closing
great video. I have only owned Honda and Toyota products (including Acura and Lexus) for the past 25 years and feel comfortable buying and driving either … both feel like “home” at this point.
Thank you! Same here to everything except Acura because by the time I could afford an Acura, they’d gotten rid of the one I always wanted (the final gen TL with the 3.7L SHAWD). But totally agree, I feel comfortable buying and driving either at this point. Minus the few that have had turbo and transmission issues in the last 5 years.
@@joshjamescars Consider yourself blessed that you didn't purchase the 3.7L SH-AWD. I had the 2010 model with the 6-speed manual. It was going to be my long-term car, but there were issues with oil consumption with this engine. This was really uncommon with Honda/Acura engines at the time. The 3.5L engine on the other hand was rock solid. There's a reason Honda / Acura dropped the 3.7L from its stable.
With the current Honda models, stay away from. the 1.5T engine. Blown head gasket issues after 3-4 years. The naturally aspirated 2.0L engines as is the case in your mom's car are the way to go.
My 2014 Accord with the 2.4L naturally aspirated engine with the CVT is about to hit 200k. This is the idea with my ES and GX as well 😊.
@lji2000 I had no idea! But yes! That 3.7 SHARES-AWD fully loaded with the manual was exactly what I was thinking of, haha! Guess I dodged a bullet there. And like you said, while newer engines have had a lot of problems, I’m surprised that one did too. And yes, I completely agree I’m not interested in Honda or Toyotas turbos. Keeping our V6 Camry and V8 GX for as long as we can!
Great review! I just bought the 2024 Civic Sport in January. I like the larger wheels and leather wrapped steering wheel. But the LX model is great buy and a perfect entry level sedan in this class.
Yes! I completely agree, I would definitely go with the Sport or higher if I was buying for myself.
I just got mines today and I love it
Congratulations!!!
Love your review of this Civic! So funny hearing your mom’s warning. 😂🤣
I bought a brand new 2023 Civic Touring sedan in January 2023. I’d been driving my ‘02 Civic LX (7th gen) for 18 years and desperately needed a new(er) car.
Honda went back to their design roots and absolutely knocked it out of the park with the 11th gen redesign! I love the understated, polished exterior paired with the semi-luxury interior. The long, low hood and LED headlights are so sharp!
Mine is meteorite metallic gray with a two-tone black/gray interior (gray seats). I think the gray has a slight blue undertone to it. Adding the subtle sparkle makes it just gorgeous. Very classy!
It’s a beautiful car and I’m super happy with it.
We’re a Honda family and Honda’s interior build quality always felt more premium than Toyota to me. And for all the reasons you said, I’d highly recommend the 11th gen Civic! My only gripe is it’s so BIG! It’s now the size of a ‘90’s Accord! 🤨 (Definitely not a fan of that.)
That’s fantastic!! The touring is a great car with the Bose sound system too. My mom traded in a white 08 Civic for this one and my dad also had an 02 Civic LX which he traded in for an Insight back in 2020. They are also a Honda family. And my mom has the same complaint about the size of the new Civic. When I was growing up in the early 90s, she had an Accord wagon and purposely downsized to the civic once I was driving on my own. That “downsize” has now gotten her right back to the same size car as her old Accord. She also looked at the HR-V but that has grown substantially too and so she crossed it off the list. And I completely agree-the Civic has always (oddly) been way more upscale looking inside and out than the Corolla. I love my Toyotas but I don’t know why Toyota can’t make a premium looking compact sedan. My mom’s 08 Civic was WORLDS better than the dumpy Corolla of the time. Congrats on the new car and I hope it gives you another 21 years of driving!
@@joshjamescarsWhen I bought it, inventory shortages were still a huge issue. My first choice is a Honda Civic, but my local Honda dealership had had no inventory for over 2 years!
So I figured I might consider a Corolla. But Toyota’s inventory was worse than Honda’s! They had absolutely NOTHING for me to even test drive.
Honda had finally just started getting inventory again when I bought. I’d gotten some money together and I saw a few new Civics on their website had just come in. So I immediately ran down to grab one before someone else did. I was fortunate to get one with gray seats instead of black.
I’m super interested in a Corolla Cross. I’ve never had an SUV. I need small-ish, inexpensive vehicles. And I’m single with no kids, so a RAV 4 is a bit much. But even now, good luck even finding a Corolla Cross to test drive!
Excellent video and I agree with every point you make about the new Honda Civic. We ended up buying a 2025 Civic Sport with the 2.0L (non-turbo) engine $250.00 below MRSP for my wife to replace her 2010 Corolla. The 2025 Sport is even better now with standard blind spot monitoring and heated power side mirrors.
Awesome!! That’s the engine to buy-the 1.5T has been phased out now that the hybrid is coming, and I don’t think many people will miss the 1.5T and its issues.
very detailed review. Liked how you shared the difference from other models.
Blasphemy!! lolol. 🤣😂 As an enthusiast of all vehicles, I really enjoy learning from you. Another awesome and entertaining video. 🤙
Hahaha!!! I know, defecting to the other side!!! 😂🤣 But thank you so much as always for watching and the kind words!
Thanks Josh. Looking to purchase this car & wanted some reassurance of my choice to go with the basic model.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the LX! You might want to compare the Sport to see if the extra features (namely alloy wheels) are worth it for you, but I’d personally be perfectly happy with this. I also wouldn’t touch any of the 1.5T trims due to the dilution issues people have had with the turbo.
Thank you for a great analysis of this car.
This is a GREAT video. Thanks for your review!
I have the sport 2023 and it’s amazing
Just got a 24 hatch sport 2.0 phenomenal car i had a 24 lx accord had it two mnths faulty springs this lil car blows away the accords and corollas!! I have friends with a 23 nightshade camry and a 22 trd . They love this car. Honda knocked it out of the park! Btw i love toyotas too!!
Great choice! And yes completely agree at the 2.0L being a better engine. It also feels more linear with a better power curve than the 1.5
This was a really informative review 👍
Great job young man. Is the stereo ok??
Well, it depends what you consider OK. It’s nowhere even close to my Lexus’ Mark Levinson stereo but this also costs about 1/3 the price of my GX. It’s a base model economy car, and that’s the kind of quality you’ll get. The Civic Touring has a much better Bose stereo (but is also around $30K MSRP). I’d go and test drive one and see for yourself.
@joshjamescars thanks for the reply. Very pleased will stereo in my EXL. God Bless..
Like you, Josh, I have been a huge Toyota/Lexus fan for many years. Our youngest kid was heading back to school on the West Coast last fall, and I could no longer feel safe having him drive his 2012 Subaru solo the 2000+ mile trip back to college. I had been in a rental Corolla for a couple of weeks prior when my Lexus was in the bodyshop, and I found it to be loud, underpowered and cheaply made. Nonetheless, I was willing to consider a Corolla hybrid to replace his older car, primarily for the gas mileage. We also test drove a 2023 Civic LX hathcback and purchased one about two weeks later. The level of fit and finish and driving comfort is waaaay ahead of the Corolla and our old Subaru. Also, no Toyota dealer nonsense with "market adjustments" and very limited inventory. By the way, the hatchback LX comes with some decently attractive 16" alloy wheels in place of those cheapo wheelcovers and rides better than than the Sport trim with its 18" wheels 👍
That’s amazing!!! How lucky he is to have such wonderful parents, LOL! The Civic hatch is such a handsome car, too. Personally if I was going to buy one I’d buy the hatch too. And that’s great to know about the hatch coming with alloys, it would definitely be my choice (my mother couldn’t care less about that, sadly). Anyhow, thanks so much for sharing and I hope that Civic brings him another 12+ years of safe and fun driving! Cheers!
I just checked and my local Honda dealer is currently discounting the Civic Sport by $1800 off sticker and it comes with alloy wheels.
Nice 👍🏽, and starting with sport trim and higher will get you the alloy wheels.
Yes! Whenever Ina goes out to buy a new car she buys the cheapest version of the car that she can, hence this LX. And for her, I think it’s a better fit since she can just replace a hubcap if she scrapes them (versus the black alloys). 😂
Also, that’s terrific that they’re discounting the Sport! That’s probably the one I would buy as well. Even though I don’t like black wheels I’d deal with it for the price and since the EX gets the turbo engine which I don’t care for.
I took haven't liked the black rims, but dark gray color with the black rims looks really sporty, almost sinister!
too
Wow, nice review and an amazing sceneries
Thank you so much! Hawaii is so beautiful! We always enjoy our trips to the islands!
Your mom did well by getting the 2.0 NA Honda engine and Honda’s CVTs are some of the best in the industry. My friend’s 2013 Accord with a CVT has almost 300,000 miles on the clock and it has never had any issues with the transmission. Mom will get many years of reliable transportation out of that base Civic.
Here’s hoping! My parents have been Honda people for the last 40 some years, every 15 years or so, they buy a new one. From an 86 Civic and 92 Accord wagon to an 02 Civic and an 08 Civic to now a 19 Insight and 23 Civic! My only buying Toyota and Lexus is such a disappointment to them, lol!
Awesome review. Im considering getting the touring edition because i want the extra bells and whistles but its nice this is a solid option too
The touring is great! Probably what I would buy if I were to buy a Civic myself.
I like how the base model doesnt have a turbo. I dont like cvts but tbh it comes down to how long it lasts and if it does bust is it going to be financially ruining or not. That plays a factor.
Great interview of this wonderful car.😊
Thank you!
Congrats you have a nice channel, you remind me of redline reviews, impressive! You should try the Mazda 3 next .
Thanks for the video Josh, currently looking for a good and reliable car for my mother and this seems to be my pick.
I don’t think you can go wrong with the Civic, especially the LX and Sport with the 2.0L naturally aspirated engine. My parents always buy Civics and their last two have lasted them over 15 years each with no major issues.
I’m so curious what your opinion might be when you drive the new integra!
(And how lucky of you to have grown up on those islands, absolutely beautiful! Was that kaua’i?)
Hello! For me the Integra is just too expensive to even consider. I think it looks hot but they didn’t make any changes beyond the body to a Civic. You get the same engines, same CVT (and same manual), and same dashboard and screens that you get in the Civic so personally I’d go with a Civic hatch instead. Now, the Type S is interesting but $50K is a little much for a Civic/Integra. Also nope, not Kauai that was just the Eastern end of Oahu out by Hawaii Kai and Hanauma Bay on the way to Kaneohe.
I have a Civic Touring but have driven the LX and it’s a great car too! The only thing I wish Honda would do is make BSI standard on all vehicles.
Also a side note: the 1.5L is sturdy and reliable. Just give it proper maintenance and don’t be a fool redlining it every time you drive .
Great choice! I don’t think you can get a better car for $30K than the civic touring.
👍🏻👍🏻 Went to kiwi in 04 came home and sold our 10 year old Civic and bought a car like we had rented there just New. Kept it until now. Here I see a video from Hawaii about a Civic and got one just went for a sport touring but still I found it funny.
Josh can you do a video on the civic type R please (FL-5)
I’m not sure if I’d be able to get my hands on one but I’ll also tell you I’m definitely not the most knowledgeable about what the Type-R buyer is looking for. My interests tend to gravitate toward trucks. 😅
Glad to see you review a Honda. Hope you will do more. I am waiting until the hybrid civic hatch makes it here. May be a long wait to get one, but, think I would like it a lot even with the wait. And, would consider the HRV if they put a hybrid in it.
Yes! I was so glad to be able to do a video on a Honda an definitely hope to do more in the future. I also am so excited to see how the new Civic does when it comes to market! I think if they can nail the price it’ll be a no brainer. Honda’s hybrid system is less efficient than Toyota’s due to its serial-hybrid design but I’m hoping we can see around 45mpg real world.
best video of a civic lx thank you
Thank you so much!
I’m not impressed with the 23&24 civic. I wish you had a chance to try the old Honda Civic 2020,2021, even 2018. Those civics were great as far as driving feel, music, seats. You need to test drive the 23 hrv. The drive feel is better then the accord.
I actually have had a chance to and I disagree entirely. The Insight from the same generation was better but personally I think this Civic is a much better car. I also wasn’t crazy about the looks of the 2016+ Civic it was so busy and looks dated. But to each their own!
Watch out for those automatic rear glass blowouts with the HR-V
I'd consider it Josh thank you
Great Review!!!!
I 100% think the base model Civic is way better than the base Corolla, you get more goodies, like push to start standard, a half digital gauge, one thing I’ll give to Corolla LE is that the infotainment screen a bit bigger, but altogether interior quality and design goes to the Civic, im looking to lease one as my first car, the LX trim and I think it’s a perfect first car
Terrific!! The only thing I’ll say is that in today’s world with interest rates being really high your best bet is to buy the car, put as much down as you can, and finance it at the lowest rate you can. Civics hold their value like crazy so it’s a great, safe buy. If you want to trade in 3 years you can, but you can also keep it for however long you want. :)
I just bought that same car yesterday and can confirm most of what you said. I'm pretty sure my dash grill isn't metal though. Mine is black. Why did I get black? I'm going back to white on my next one.
Do you know how to force Iheart onto the AA media screen?
That’s interesting! It definitely felt like metal to me. And no, sadly I don’t use Android so I’m not familiar with how to do that, though I’m sure there’s a way to customize what apps come up by default.
I love ❤️ this video thank bro
How much did she pay for it? My dealership wants 29,700 for the base model and it makes me so mad cause the MSRP is 24,600
Is that $29K the out the door price? If not, you need to find another dealer, period.
@@joshjamescars 29,700 out the door all fees and taxes included
Great review! As someone who prefers an extremely light steering feel since it’s easier to drive, I think I prefer the Corolla. However I wouldn’t have known of the Civic’s heavy steering feel if it weren’t for your video so gracias mi sicario!!
Light steering can definitely be really nice! Depending how much you’re looking to spend the Prius is another great choice with Toyota’s light steering.
Wait, your mom lives in Hawaii? She looks sweet. No wonder you're so sweet!
Yes! I left Hawaii for college and never went back but most of my family is still there. Ina is sweet most of the time. 😂
I recently sold my 2024 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.5L 4-cylinder Nissan CVT, does the CVT have adequate power for the weight of this current model Civic?
I think you need to look into what a CVT is. A CVT itself doesn’t have any “power” it’s a transmission that translates the power of the engine into forward motion for the wheels. Honda’s CVTs are very good. But the best civic to buy in 2025 is the hybrid which doesn’t use a traditional CVT but rather a single speed reduction gear like in an EV.
Great review, I have the 21' LX and looking to replace it with a 2024 Civic, so it is looking like a LX or the Sports.
Either one would be a great choice! I’d probably personally go with the sport.
Thank you, I previously had a 2019 Sports, however the there was a recall on the Fuel Pump...😎 @@joshjamescars
is apple carplay connectivity through USB or wireless on the 2024 civic lx?
As of now, the only Honda cars that have wireless CarPlay are the ones with the 9-inch or 12-inch screens (and even then I think only 2024+ models). So this one does not.
You should compare this too the integra and talk about why you should just go with the civic
Seriously. I see the Integra around and can’t understand why anyone would buy one.
Which one to buy: corolla hybrid, civic, or camry? Really confused here. Hope u can help me decide. Thnks
I think it depends on your needs. Camry is a size class bigger and can get much more expensive depending on how you spec it. We have and love our Camry, though. Corolla hybrid is by far the most efficient and cheapest car you can get. And there is a civic hybrid coming out later this year. That’s the one I would wait for if you’re not in a rush.
@@joshjamescars thanks a lot josh! More power to you and your channel. Subscribed!
Any chance you can tell me how the civic come pairs to the Prius. I’m on car number 8. I might get your white Prius in the future.
They’re very different at the moment. We have to wait to see what the 2025 Civic Hybrid will be like (price, efficiency, etc.) to have a truly 1:1 comparison. I suspect that the civic will be cheaper but will be missing features like a panoramic moonroof, 360-camera, and AWD.
Does this model have blindspot detection?
For 2024 it didn’t but the lineup has changed for 2025 so check the Honda website for more info.
Nice video. Why they don’t provide basic car with manual transmission.
They do! You can get the civic hatch with a six-speed manual transmission on the sport trim which is $26,350.
Just curious...I have read info regarding that getting in and out of a civic both front and rear seats including the drivers seat) is extremely difficult and had to get in and out of and not much room in the back seat. I am 5'5" tall and weigh 165 lbs. Would this car be difficult for me to get in and out of as a driver and passenger. I really like the car just curious about room. Thanks.
You’re smaller than I am and I had no issues so I think you’ll be fine, although it’s always going to be harder getting into and out of a sedan than a crossover. Go and check one out at a dealer and see for yourself! :)
@@joshjamescars Thanks Josh...enjoy your channel...I just subscribred.
My was 26 000 but it's a civic sport 2.0 motor in dark gray color only thing is I got 18 inches wheels that's hard to keep clean and more noise. Lol
Hello! I think what’s causing you noise are the tires and not the wheels. Try out a good set of Michelins and see if that makes a difference. Tires come in a variety of price points for a reason.
$24,000 MSRP on the paper. After taxes/ registration fees/other paper work fees, the total came out to $29,350. If you finance, you will be paying additional $4,000 for the total interest. So at the end, this LX base model will run you the total of around $33,000!!!!!!! So it's not the cheapest car under 25,000 car at all. Numbers do run up real quick at the dealer ship. Just bought my 2024 LX in December of 2023. But it a great car though. And the V-Tec really pull Bro Dude!!
Yes, I think everyone knows that MSRP isn’t the actual number you pay, and taxes and other fees vary widely by locale. You paid a ton in taxes and fees, yikes! And you are right at the finance charges, that’s why it’s super important to try as best you can to pay it off as quickly as possible so you don’t pay one more cent than you have to. And congratulations on the new car! It’s a terrific little commuter!
I just picked up a Civic EX for $29,045 total OTD! Including taxes and destination! No dealer fees! 4.9% Honda financing compared to my local bank at 8.59% and the local credit unions at 6.4%-6.7%.
@@ms.b9093Good to know that Honda financing was the lowest. Do you have an excellent credit score ?
Does where the civic is made make any difference?
I don’t think so. At least for our market I believe they all come from Ontario.
@@joshjamescars Thanks. I know they have moved the civic assembly a few times, like great Britain, Indiana, and now Ontario. And they use robots too, so maybe that's why.
I wonder if the hrv is easier to do oil change than the civic. ua-cam.com/video/DEEetLMsIDY/v-deo.htmlsi=43OCw3beWJhqSaIk Here, Scotty is being brutally honest again. Could be one off though.
Every car in the world outside of a Bentley or Rolls Royce is made on an automated, robotic assembly line. This isn’t the 50s. And as for servicing do be aware that in a modern car the oil change is just one small part of a total vehicle service. There’s a lot to do with software updates and inspecting and maintaining the cameras, radar, and other tech hardware that are standard on all vehicles now too.
Not me watching this video 30 days after buying a Corolla Hybrid 24 😅😅
Haha! The Corolla hybrid is an outstanding car, though. I would have no regrets. Also, I’m almost certain that the Civic hybrid won’t be able to match its efficiency just because of the way Honda’s serial hybrid system works versus Toyota’s parallel hybrid system does.
I can't believe I'd consider a non-toyota but this has got me thinking....
I’m a Toyota person who grew up in a Honda household so I’ve always been pretty open to either one. Honda kind of lost their way for a bit with their turbos and transmissions having reliability issues, and now I feel like Toyota is a bit in terms of their astronomical pricing and lower quality interior materials. So for me it just depends who has the best product and this is an outstanding one! Plus there will be a hybrid coming this year too.
Good points Josh. Are Honda's ubiquitous in Hawaii?
I asked the sales person at the Honda dealership if the LX had hub caps, and he said yes. I see now that they don’t have hub caps 🤔
No your salesperson was right, these are hub caps as is clearly shown in the video.
You seem to be pretty well-off to just write ✍️ a check:)
What would you say to someone that is on the fence to buying one because it is one of the most stolen cars? How does its reliability compare to a Corolla?
The fact of the matter is theft can happen to any car out there. Look what’s happening in eastern Canada. All makes and models get stolen. You also have to look at the crime rate in your area. If theft is a legitimate problem and you don’t have a way to combat it like parking in a locked garage or something, you might not want to get a brand new car. Get some cheap used car that isn’t as attractive to thieves. And be sure to have good insurance which will replace the car should it get stolen. Reliability is good though the Corolla hybrid will be not reliable than either gas model.
They did the corolla such an injustice, exterior-wise. It looks more dated than the previous generation civic
I completely agree! The current Corolla is so horribly frumpy looking.
Why do you pick it over a Corolla?
Personally I prefer the looks of the civic and then the interior materials, interior design, and ride quality of the Civic is so far above and beyond the Corolla for just about the same price.
I'll have to check it out Josh, thanks for the recommendation
@@joshjamescars I have to agree. The Civic has been the benchmark in this segment.
Would be even nicer with manual transmission.
@faridabdullatif9051 As I responded to your other comment, the Civic hatch sport trim has a manual for $26,350.
90% of the needs of most people would be solved by owning a Civic, Corolla, Mazda3.
Yes! I completely agree!
Ohhh lord...y'all we done lost a soldier, he bout to sell all his Toyota/Lexus for Honda/Acura.jk
Compared to Corolla , I think Honda nailed with their new line.
Haha!! No, the sad part is Acura doesn’t make anything I’m interested in. I loved the final-gen TL with the 3.7 V6 and SH-AWD but after that, their cars kind of just faded off into the land of mediocrity where Infiniti is (I’m also worried Lexus seems to be headed there too). But Honda as a mainstream brand is killing it!
@@joshjamescars agree.
My problem with Lexus... They are becoming to much American for me, they are losing that Japanese finish touch. I find myself looking at old Lexus products than the new ones.
a cheap car compared to everything else* unfortunately car prices have just creeped up over the years, my mom bought a 2017 toyota camry se for around $25-27k which is how much you'll pay for a civic sport today! However I do agree with you though that the civic is a great car at this price range and especially the lower trims with the 2.0 na engine which is a better engine than the 1.5 for reliability imo, I also like the design this time around and the driving/safety features you get.
Right, “cheap” is always going to be relative. You’d have said the same thing in 2017 about the Camry relative to what a 2012 would have cost as well. And, relative to the fact that a Tacoma tops out at $65K today, $23K is incredibly cheap for a new car in 2024.
BMW 3 series, but 4 times cheaper. Take my money!
Love this!
Just wish it wasn't a CVT!
I understand that. But at this price point for economical transportation I think the CVT is more than fine for this car. The place it doesn’t belong is in the Integra…
@@joshjamescars lol def not in the Integra, that would be an epic sin!
@JacksonianT Well it is in there that’s why I made the comment. 😂
@@joshjamescars oh man... Lol I just watched an Integra video recently reviewing the 2023 and it was manual... Is that a 2024 change?!
Nope it’s always been offered as the “automatic” transmission option for the Integra. Since the Integra is a lightly upgraded Civic they kept the same CVT instead of giving it the dual clutch from the old ILX.
Those cheapp wheels are a better ride.
They are!
Several Honda recalls recently. Honda reliability has gone down, probably due to many of their vehicles being made in America instead of Japan.
Actually their issues have to do with the ZF transmission that was shared with GM and Chrysler and their newer turbo engines self destructing. So I wouldn’t buy any of those. But their hybrids and naturally aspirated base engines are solid and very dependable because they’re all based on older and proven designs. But I wouldn’t rule out an American made Honda. They’ve been building cars in Ohio for longer than I’ve been alive and my parents have both had cars from that plant that have lasted 15+ years with no major issues.
這個國家的風景很美
Thank you! Hawaii is one of my favorite places in the world.
You have a face that is easy to love
Thank you!