Would like too hear renegade next year at the superbowl... tomlin needs to step up, he expects it from his players, but he's the one holding them back. Let players play and coachs coach, why are you paying them to be puppets
@@robertopacheco2997 wasn’t really a miracle. He was the third QB picked in that draft. And again, trading up for a QB is very possible. Chiefs did it after being the 2 seed. Heck the Steelers traded up for Devin Bush. They’ll trade more for the QB they like.
@@LockedOnSteelers Totally disagree. No one thought Big Ben would fall where he did. Go back and watch the draft coverage from that day. Can you tell me who the Steelers were going to draft in that spot? I sure remember! Fortunately, the Steelers didn't make another Dan-Marino-sized mistake and pass on a HoF QB!
If you look at all the teams that picked before us in 2004, it is genuinely crazy that teams like the Raiders, the Jaguars, and especially the Browns didn't take Ben. Nearly every team ahead of us needed a QB. The Texans did too in hindsight, but they were still a 3 year old franchise that believed in David Carr
@@colten53 I clearly recall the Stillers were looking for a CB, and they were locked in on Ahmad "Batman" Carroll from Arkansas. Thankfully, Green Bay drafted him right before us. Even then, some were still willing to reach for a CB. Apparently, the Steelers were even willing to pass over Ben and draft DB Ricardo Colclough from tiny Tusculum. Thankfully, there was no repeat of the Dan Marino 1984 draft fiasco and they drafted Big Ben at 11. Can you imagine taking Carroll or Colclough over Ben and how that would've changed history?! The Stillers even traded up in the second round and drafted Colclough, who (like Carroll) was a total bust. But I'm sure Mr. Carter knew all of this when he responded to my first post.
I like Tahj Brooks the RB from Texas Tech his footwork kind of reminds me of Laveon Bell. 5'10 230 with speed that can pass protect and also can get to the edge 💪🏾
Steelers media wants it to be Fields. Steelers fans wants it to be Fields. It’s going to be Russ. Tomlin never showed preference to Fields, he was asked leading questions about QB mobility. If the Steelers are being coy it’s because they want Russ on a cheaper deal. You can talk about the last 5 games being all Wilson’s fault but Rooney and Tomlin may not feel that way.
God, I was ready to disagree with you… until I finished the whole comment… you’re so right 😭 if it’s russ i don’t know how I’ll manage to have any level of optimism for the season
So Chris says (and I’m paraphrasing) “ Andy Reid got run out of Philadelphia, and went on to build a dynasty in Kansas City and won 3 Super Bowls and might win 4. So If Mike Tomlin is run out of Pittsburgh and he goes to another city and builds that city’s team into a Dynasty and wins 4 Super Bowls, the folks in Pittsburgh will absolutely lose their shite!!!” Ok… I can’t believe he said that! In effect he’s equating Tomlin’s level of talent and coaching to that of Andy Reid! Are you kidding me???? And it’s not just Tomlin’s coaching ability… it’s also the other coaches and personnel that these two Head Coaches surround themselves with! I mean C’mon… did you see KC’s Defense in that game against Buffalo? Do you seriously think that Pittsburgh’s Defensive Coordinator (and Mike Tomlin who really runs the Defense) can put together that level of Defensive Strategy? Do you guys really have to stand behind Rooney in order to keep your jobs or something? Cuz that’s the only reason I can think of that would make you say something so absolutely ridiculous!!!
@@ahighervibe4086 Tomlin won a Super Bowl already. Andy Reid never won when he was fired. He’s only won when he’s had Patrick Mahomes, who is arguably the GOAT QB and miles better than anyone Tomlin had. So, yes.
I agree with Allen on this one. Smith didn’t do a good job aligning play calling to his personnel. Even if Najee didn’t fit your scheme you should have adjusted play calling. Doesn’t make since to build around an OC that’s ready to leave after the first year anyway
@jasonadkins5606 Nice. I've been a season ticket holder since 1969 when I got home from Vietnam so pretty similar. The only difference is that I have literally seen some of the worst seasons and coaching in Steelers history, and this doesn't even come close🤣🤣🤣
Been trying to tell people this. Poor drafting over the last decade and not having a franchise QB set this team back significantly, and it will be YEARS before they have all the pieces in place to actually compete for a Lombardi.
You people have NO idea what you're talking about!!!! Le'Veon Bell, Cam Heyward, Rashard Mendenhall, David DeCastro, Mike Wallace, Lamar Woodley, Marquis Pouncey, Lawrence Timmons, Antonio Brown, TJ Watt, Alex Highsmith, Emmanuel Sanders, Martavis Bryant, JuJu Smith-Schuster, RYAN SHAZIER, Bud Dupree, ALL DRAFTED BY TOMLIN!!!! Take a good look at it!!! If you don't know what you're talking about keep the verbal diarrhea to yourself!!!! #LEARNBALL #VOLUNTEERSNOTHOSTAGES
@@johnjones-uc3ni 2024 passer rating over 93%. guess that ends that tired trope. If you took the time, you would know that Guetsy insisted that JF change his entire passer's motion to mimic Aaron Rogers (which lowered his passing from college). Guetsy was fired about 5 games into 2024 season by the raiders (he's an idiot). JF will be fine because he changed his passing motion back to his college form. once he is worked with by a competent OC, he will be fine.
Why is TJ Watt still on this team? Edge rushers don’t equate to playoff wins. They’ve won ZERO playoff games with him and he won’t be on this team when they’re ready to win again. Trade him, use those assets you get in return and position yourself to draft a QB next year
@ saying they “haven’t sniffed” a playoff win is being too nice. That defense led by TJ Watt has gotten its doors kicked in during every playoff loss……getting lit up by the likes of Blake Bortles and Baker Mayfield in a few of those losses.
Can't live in our fears!! I'm from Philly.. nobody here thinks they should've kept Andy.. it's like a relationship.. sometimes u have to part to get better
A.Smith wasn't the coordinator that we needed. He couldn't make adjustments when Russ was in the game. Why did we not use Mike Williams more? I hate when we get players and let them watch from the sidelines. Wake up everybody. The fans are more stressed than the Roonies. They don't plan on paying the coaches or players that we really need. They are satisfied with the six Superbowl wins and could care less if we get more.
He also said they could be looking into the QB position into next year also people can criticize but my Question would be where’s the quarterback they can go get to make that change? People just have to face it this thing may take some time period..
@ you’re correct, they did interview him……and chose old Artie Smith instead. I’m sure Tomlin chose Smith because Kliffy runs an offense more suited for the 21st century and modern football. Get ready to see the same garbage next season, zero changes
Now name another team when it worked. In the past five seasons name a new hire coach that has been better than Tomlin. I'll wait. The odds is not in the Steelers favor to fire him. I know yall don't like him be he's been stable and gets average teams to the playoffs. If that team was loaded with talent and they underachieved then I can understand but dude is doing a great job with the talent he has
Alan brought up an interesting point unproven leading unproven pertaining to Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada sooooo.... in the same sense why would Steelers want unproven at Starter and backup? If you keep JF and draft somebody you would have 3 unproven QBs because I guarantee whatever Veteran they get is going to be mid at best
If you have a qb who cant throw in the cold or a reciever who cant catch in the cold then they should be traded to Miami 😂! Russ was 6-1 why change things for the weather?
before Fields was taken out for Russ.. Fields was trending up. each game he was getting better. Obviously Russ was trending down by the end of his time starting. so just going off that alone, you have to go with fields. thats besides looking at age, cost, athleticism, higher ceiling.. just a no brainer who should start next season.
Chris remember when Pittsburgh won the first four super bowls in them 70 we got rid of and fired her head coach until we can find someone to price a head coach we can't fire him you don't think the Rooney's are checking every time Mike Tomlin don't win a game absolutely they know what they're doing they want Mike Tomlin to retire and then go after the next head coach and the next franchise quarterback
Ben wouldn't even help Mason when they were on the sideline together and Mason had to fill in for him when he was injured/had his surgery. What makes you think he would be a good QB coach? Don't get me wrong g, what Ben did on the field in his prime was awesome, but when it comes to being helpful to other QBs (even teammates), hard pass on that!!!
@dlc8506 It actually had nothing to do with competition. Ben knew he was going to be the starter, and regardless of whether it was or wasn't, you should want what's best for the TEAM! It's THAT mentality and those actions that cause teams to self-destruct when your QB goes down and he hasn't taken the time to work with the guy behind him to make sure he's capable of going out there and getting the W!!!! And just because of that self-centered, me first attitude, I wouldn't even consider bringing him in.
@@BeardedDutchman Charlie Batch was behind ben, and Charlie was the best back up of all time. So unless u have facts to prove competition 4 the same spot had nothing to do with it, then yr just speculating. Have a good day.
@@dlc8506 🤣🤣🤣🤣You're absolutely delusional!!! First of all, there was no way Charlie Batch was taking the staring job from Ben. Second, Mason Rudolph and multiple other teammates of Ben's all said the same thing. And third, Charlie Batch definitely wasn't the best backup of all time!! That title belongs to Tom Brady!! And he absolutely proved it the second he stepped in for Drew Bledsoe after Mo Lewis from the Jets hit him and caused internal bleeding and some damage in his rib cage...Thank you..have a nice day! #LEARNBALL
I am so tired of hearing about the QB. It's not like QBs fall from trees. You need an offensive line coach that can get the best out of the two 1st round picks you recently made. Also, a running back that can break a 30 yard run every now and then would be nice. Just start Fields and draft QB to develop. Sadly, Tomlin can't develop players so what is the point of any of this. Philly showed you how to build a team without a great QB, but Art Rooney II is asleep at the wheel.
Pittsburgh Needs to keep building the offensive line and defense line to help the run game, run stops. It doesn't make sense to get rid of a 1,000 yard rushing Harris. And he's doing it splitting time with 2 other backs, and a Weak Ass Offensive Line..... I thought this is what ever NFL wanted. 😮😮😮😮 1,000 rusher,great pass catcher, great blocking, and hardly fumble the ball....JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND
As much as I want to believe this is a pure competition, guys working hard to win, how much evidence do you need to see, Vegas makes the calls as to who moves on to post season and who they want to take it all. I’m losing faith in this WWE, NFL, National football Entertainment league. NFEL.
If you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan you should have known what art Rooney mint what he meant by we don't know what to do and there's nothing we can do because we don't keep a quarterback more than 2 years and we never start the quarterback if he has a losing season first off we never start a quarterback in his rookie season and that's the starter gets hurt we know what we have in Russell Wilson we don't know what we have and Justin fields and there's a fam we don't care if we win we just fed up with the way everything is going down we just want to get a quarterback in the the next day what we have not keep them one year and get rid of them I want to buy a Jersey like I did with Mason Rudolph when we dropped Tim I wasn't going to buy a Kenny Pickens when I have a Mason Rudolph I don't believe in him but he never really had a chance even as a starter they f*** them from his rookie year we get a quarterback this year next year it don't matter set him I know that you're going to lose and hang on to the starting quarterback and give them a chance to develop no matter what why don't you know you've seen it potential you get rid of them that's if they don't turn into a great quarterback that's why he didn't answer your question
Alan, your rationale that the Steelers can capably get a franchise quarterback by moving up to 10 or 11.... 2004 is the second best quarterback class in history. 3 franchise quarterbacks went and 1 fell to 11 because Eli Manning decided to refuse to play for SD and some aren't picks by quarterback needy teams. You're plan to get another franchise quarterback is wait for enough blue chip quarterbacks to enter the draft and have enough other players in the draft that are HoF caliber that teams won't jump up higher in the draft to get the quarterbacks. Not impossible but incredibly foolish to bank on it. Give me a break.
@@zzospreyzz55 so when the Chiefs traded up to 10 after being the 2-seed in the playoffs for Patrick Mahomes, or the Ravens got Lamar Jackson at 32, or the Packers took Love at 26 … they were foolish? Alan isn’t saying it will be easy but the opportunity isn’t there right now and being ready to pounce when an opportunity arrives is their best bet.
Im still waiting for other teams to lineup and steal our coordinators. Tomlin is the only "great" coach who no one ever wants his coaches. That shouod tell you everything. Not one part of this team do others look at and say "we need that".
This quarterback talk is a joke. It has nothing to do with qb. Tomlin has had 3 QB up for a heismann, 2 quarterbacks who are hall of fame level, and actually a pretty solid QB at Mason Rudolph who gave them a good shot and was clearly a strong leader. There is no big splash at QB. The fact that it’s even discussed as a “QB problem” is adding fuel to all this bullshit. It’s clearly the result of the culture and the people in the organization who don’t do the things to create a championship culture.
Stop making excuses for Kenny Pickett. How is A. Smith not doing his job Russell's fault? The offensive plays were predictable and stale the last 5 games. There was nothing new in the playoffs.
We know what we have in Russell Wilson and he ain't going to win at the super bowl and that's what Mike Tomlin wants this way he can retire but we need a quarterback an aunt Rooney don't know what to do because there's no quarterback in college where did Bill Collins come from they're going to look in the free agents I do not be surprised like you said a one-year deal Russell Wilson had gone
Putting Mike Tomlin in the same sentence as Andy Reid is dumb and short-sighted too, apples and oranges bro, not even close. Andy Reid toys with Mike Tomlin when they play each other
Rooney is not changing anything. I really believe he is getting senile because he is beginning to remind me of Joe Biden when he speaks. There is not change that is going to fix the Steelers except the firing of Mike Tomlin.
One year Dell and see what we have and Justin fields and hopefully next year we can have a losing season this year if not you know what you have in Justin fields you have to give him a chance we gave Russell a chance we know what he had
I hate the premise that you guys have no faith in Fields when it was a forgone conclusion he was going to play more than 50% of the snaps....Why would they give up a 4th round pick to the Bears..when FIelds has shown when allowed to play to his strengths wins games..we saw what we needed to see in Fields in those six games...you all will eat crow this season due to your unbelief....their is no coach that is going to lead the STeelers better than Mike Tomlin a ththis time...the only thing we need to do is make a couple of tweaks onb defense..we have enough weapons on offense...the only thing that needs to happen is scheme players open....that's it...if we keep the RBs Najee should only be for anything in between 20 yards and the goal line....smh
Chris… please stop bringing Allen Saunders on the show and forcing him down our throat every Tuesday. No disrespect Alan. But your takes on everything is so negative. You always talk about the quarterback, the quarterback, the quarterback. You make it seem like Justin Fields is slim Pickens. We get it, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar, Jackson, Josh Allen, hell even Jerry golf is possibly better than Justin Field. But Jesus Christ, can we get a full season and a competent offense FOH
I will tell you the truth right now we are not bringing back a running back and we're not going to bring back Russell Wilson would probably going to get rid of some offensive players and maybe won defensive player you know who I'm talking about we're going to go after free agent but one not going to pay a wide receiver I'm not going to pay a quarterback until we know he can win a damn game
I would sign Russ to one year ad try to get Carson Wentz, because he had to learn something under Mahomes and Andy Reid. If I couldn’t get Wentz I would go with Justin Fields. We know one thing about KP08 and that is he cannot stay on the field
We also know 1 thing about JF2......he puts the ball on the ground more than a line judge!!! Correction, we know 2 things about JF2, the second thing we know is that he's nothing more than a game manager and game managers don't win championships!!
They are going to start Justin fields and see what they have you're not going to move from Russell Wilson to bring an Aaron Rodgers you already know what you have in Aaron Rodgers the same thing we have in Russell Wilson
Get real tomlin is not good enough to build a dynasty . He’s a good leader and was able to take cowhers core to 2 superbowls . Since cowhers talent went away it’s been mid
I’m so sick of this process talk shit it’s been 10 years since we won a playoff game guys. It’s very easy fire. The coach start over gets the new players. If it works it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t all I can tell you it’s not gonna work with what we have and there’s no nothing suggest it would
Steelers are my team since 1970 they are not gonna win nothing with these coaches and has been quarterback they still playing checkers and everybody else is playing chess
@Locked on Steelers Chris you're correct if Mike Tomlin pulled a Andy Reid and built a dynasty elsewhere, I would be sick, so yes let Mike Tomlin fix it here first
What skill set does Justin have though? Never in my 40 years of life have I ever heard of a vet that's clearly a back up starting and needing another player as the same as the back up. Justin is already a Qb2 why why why say he's the best let Russ retire a Steeler and let Justin continue to learn. No one wants to play like Justin fields no one. I don't know one. This what it's come to now just make anything up. I have heard Rodgers and flacoo. Name mentioned. Both similar to Russ. Why not have a vet Russ that can clearly get you in the playoffs. Justin would have lost all the gauntlet games. Man let's not act like if Russ wasn't hurt we wouldn't have went 12 and 6 possibly 13 and 5.
Fields was benched cause they didn’t anticipate picket leaving signed Wilson, with some assurance that he’d play. “Pole position “ remember?? Dallas runs the length of field for game winning TD. That’s on defense otherwise fields is benched at 5-1 nevertheless 4-2. Tomlin made the call “ big bucks” comment. He was wrong. Russle the one trick pony choked when the afc north ravens and others had more dog in the fight. No #2 WR bad line play on both sides ugly end season. the Steelers org. Should have trusted Denver head coach. Russle holds the ball takes sacks. Can’t see the field. With good moonball aka Hail Mary. Lfg!! Fields 2025
I like you two together and your viewpoints. Those calling for Tomlin to be fired are just acting out of emotion and never liked the man from the beginning. They wanted a white guy to coach
Naw bro, even as a staunch supporter of Tomlin, dude has one a playoff game in only 4 of the 18 seasons that he’s been the coach. That kind of performance when it matters and still being employed is crazy work.
“Actions speak louder than words” and takes no actions.
Steelers are lost... too many average yrs. If the culture doesn't change, The standard for the Steelers is 10 and 7... wtf
Would like too hear renegade next year at the superbowl... tomlin needs to step up, he expects it from his players, but he's the one holding them back. Let players play and coachs coach, why are you paying them to be puppets
Even at 6-10 it was a miracle Big Ben fell to the Stillers. So, 10-7 or 9-8 is impossible without a trade to acquire a franchise QB in the draft.
@@robertopacheco2997 wasn’t really a miracle. He was the third QB picked in that draft. And again, trading up for a QB is very possible. Chiefs did it after being the 2 seed. Heck the Steelers traded up for Devin Bush. They’ll trade more for the QB they like.
@@LockedOnSteelers Totally disagree. No one thought Big Ben would fall where he did. Go back and watch the draft coverage from that day. Can you tell me who the Steelers were going to draft in that spot? I sure remember! Fortunately, the Steelers didn't make another Dan-Marino-sized mistake and pass on a HoF QB!
If you look at all the teams that picked before us in 2004, it is genuinely crazy that teams like the Raiders, the Jaguars, and especially the Browns didn't take Ben. Nearly every team ahead of us needed a QB. The Texans did too in hindsight, but they were still a 3 year old franchise that believed in David Carr
@@colten53 Agreed, but our resident expert on here who gets paid to do this for a living seems totally ignorant of these facts!
@@colten53 I clearly recall the Stillers were looking for a CB, and they were locked in on Ahmad "Batman" Carroll from Arkansas. Thankfully, Green Bay drafted him right before us. Even then, some were still willing to reach for a CB. Apparently, the Steelers were even willing to pass over Ben and draft DB Ricardo Colclough from tiny Tusculum. Thankfully, there was no repeat of the Dan Marino 1984 draft fiasco and they drafted Big Ben at 11. Can you imagine taking Carroll or Colclough over Ben and how that would've changed history?! The Stillers even traded up in the second round and drafted Colclough, who (like Carroll) was a total bust. But I'm sure Mr. Carter knew all of this when he responded to my first post.
You guy's got me fired up! Spot on
I like Tahj Brooks the RB from Texas Tech his footwork kind of reminds me of Laveon Bell. 5'10 230 with speed that can pass protect and also can get to the edge 💪🏾
Steelers media wants it to be Fields. Steelers fans wants it to be Fields. It’s going to be Russ. Tomlin never showed preference to Fields, he was asked leading questions about QB mobility. If the Steelers are being coy it’s because they want Russ on a cheaper deal. You can talk about the last 5 games being all Wilson’s fault but Rooney and Tomlin may not feel that way.
I’m afraid that might happen
If it’s Russ Ima lose it
Only one can stay. It will be fields
God, I was ready to disagree with you… until I finished the whole comment… you’re so right 😭 if it’s russ i don’t know how I’ll manage to have any level of optimism for the season
Fields isn't going to get much better. He's been in the league 4 years now. He is who he is. Quit fantasizing. They couldn't develop him anyway.
So Chris says (and I’m paraphrasing) “ Andy Reid got run out of Philadelphia, and went on to build a dynasty in Kansas City and won 3 Super Bowls and might win 4. So If Mike Tomlin is run out of Pittsburgh and he goes to another city and builds that city’s team into a Dynasty and wins 4 Super Bowls, the folks in Pittsburgh will absolutely lose their shite!!!”
Ok… I can’t believe he said that! In effect he’s equating Tomlin’s level of talent and coaching to that of Andy Reid! Are you kidding me????
And it’s not just Tomlin’s coaching ability… it’s also the other coaches and personnel that these two Head Coaches surround themselves with! I mean C’mon… did you see KC’s Defense in that game against Buffalo? Do you seriously think that Pittsburgh’s Defensive Coordinator (and Mike Tomlin who really runs the Defense) can put together that level of Defensive Strategy? Do you guys really have to stand behind Rooney in order to keep your jobs or something? Cuz that’s the only reason I can think of that would make you say something so absolutely ridiculous!!!
@@ahighervibe4086 Tomlin won a Super Bowl already. Andy Reid never won when he was fired. He’s only won when he’s had Patrick Mahomes, who is arguably the GOAT QB and miles better than anyone Tomlin had.
So, yes.
I agree with Allen on this one. Smith didn’t do a good job aligning play calling to his personnel. Even if Najee didn’t fit your scheme you should have adjusted play calling. Doesn’t make since to build around an OC that’s ready to leave after the first year anyway
I'm not even excited anymore no matter the players it's still going to be the same thing
So go route for Baltimore if your soooo disgruntled....I promise you that Steeler Nation won't miss you
@jeffvanduyne4614 I promise you i ain't going anywhere I haven't missed a game in over 30 years
@jasonadkins5606 Nice. I've been a season ticket holder since 1969 when I got home from Vietnam so pretty similar. The only difference is that I have literally seen some of the worst seasons and coaching in Steelers history, and this doesn't even come close🤣🤣🤣
They won't be relevant again for years. No franchise QB, can't draft good. Poor decisions all around. Buckle up!
Been trying to tell people this. Poor drafting over the last decade and not having a franchise QB set this team back significantly, and it will be YEARS before they have all the pieces in place to actually compete for a Lombardi.
You people have NO idea what you're talking about!!!!
Le'Veon Bell, Cam Heyward, Rashard Mendenhall, David DeCastro, Mike Wallace, Lamar Woodley, Marquis Pouncey, Lawrence Timmons, Antonio Brown, TJ Watt, Alex Highsmith, Emmanuel Sanders, Martavis Bryant, JuJu Smith-Schuster, RYAN SHAZIER, Bud Dupree, ALL DRAFTED BY TOMLIN!!!!
Take a good look at it!!! If you don't know what you're talking about keep the verbal diarrhea to yourself!!!!
#LEARNBALL #VOLUNTEERSNOTHOSTAGES
the run vs pass steelers offense was nearly 50/50. If you want the run game to be better, play fields with the improved offensive line.
Still have to be able to pass in the NFL. Fields can run but he's a one trick pony.
@@johnjones-uc3nihe can throw too. He gonna show u
@@johnjones-uc3ni 2024 passer rating over 93%. guess that ends that tired trope. If you took the time, you would know that Guetsy insisted that JF change his entire passer's motion to mimic Aaron Rogers (which lowered his passing from college). Guetsy was fired about 5 games into 2024 season by the raiders (he's an idiot). JF will be fine because he changed his passing motion back to his college form. once he is worked with by a competent OC, he will be fine.
Why is TJ Watt still on this team? Edge rushers don’t equate to playoff wins. They’ve won ZERO playoff games with him and he won’t be on this team when they’re ready to win again. Trade him, use those assets you get in return and position yourself to draft a QB next year
You sound crazy trade tj you must don't know football
@ I know enough to know they haven’t sniffed a single playoff win with him and likely won’t anytime soon……what am I missing?
@ saying they “haven’t sniffed” a playoff win is being too nice. That defense led by TJ Watt has gotten its doors kicked in during every playoff loss……getting lit up by the likes of Blake Bortles and Baker Mayfield in a few of those losses.
Thank you
Can't live in our fears!! I'm from Philly.. nobody here thinks they should've kept Andy.. it's like a relationship.. sometimes u have to part to get better
Now you guys got it
A.Smith wasn't the coordinator that we needed. He couldn't make adjustments when Russ was in the game. Why did we not use Mike Williams more? I hate when we get players and let them watch from the sidelines. Wake up everybody. The fans are more stressed than the Roonies. They don't plan on paying the coaches or players that we really need. They are satisfied with the six Superbowl wins and could care less if we get more.
He also said they could be looking into the QB position into next year also people can criticize but my Question would be where’s the quarterback they can go get to make that change? People just have to face it this thing may take some time period..
We will be having the same conversation in the off-season next year
Mike Tomlin is no Andy Reed, not even close. Andy is a hell of a play caller and knows how to skim. MT is just a motivator.
Kliff Kingsbury asked to interview for Steelers vacant OC position last season and they declined…….dumb move
Not true
@ you’re correct, they did interview him……and chose old Artie Smith instead. I’m sure Tomlin chose Smith because Kliffy runs an offense more suited for the 21st century and modern football. Get ready to see the same garbage next season, zero changes
Yes thank you
I’d like to hear more about Roman Wilson, CA3, Nate Herbig
The QB has nothing to do with the defensive scheme being trash! The Raven ran an extra o-line man 22% of the time and we are in nickel! WTF!!!
Both KC and Philly benefited by moving on. What's Philly's track record compared to the Stillers in the time since Reid left the Iggles?!
Now name another team when it worked. In the past five seasons name a new hire coach that has been better than Tomlin. I'll wait. The odds is not in the Steelers favor to fire him. I know yall don't like him be he's been stable and gets average teams to the playoffs. If that team was loaded with talent and they underachieved then I can understand but dude is doing a great job with the talent he has
We weren’t good at running because we sucked at passing.
Every QB of the future doesn’t need to be a first round pick! I think history has proven that!
Alan brought up an interesting point unproven leading unproven pertaining to Kenny Pickett and Matt Canada sooooo.... in the same sense why would Steelers want unproven at Starter and backup? If you keep JF and draft somebody you would have 3 unproven QBs because I guarantee whatever Veteran they get is going to be mid at best
Sounds like they really like that texas tech rb when they compared him to le'veon bell
Colbert drafting Pickett and then retiring is still one of the most baffling decisions ever. Idk, man.
If you have a qb who cant throw in the cold or a reciever who cant catch in the cold then they should be traded to Miami 😂! Russ was 6-1 why change things for the weather?
Chris how much of a bonus did the Rooney’s throw your way to break the kids gloves out here?
before Fields was taken out for Russ.. Fields was trending up. each game he was getting better. Obviously Russ was trending down by the end of his time starting. so just going off that alone, you have to go with fields. thats besides looking at age, cost, athleticism, higher ceiling.. just a no brainer who should start next season.
I don't think he was trending down. I think the team around him was trending down and he wasn't able to compensate for everything.
Chris remember when Pittsburgh won the first four super bowls in them 70 we got rid of and fired her head coach until we can find someone to price a head coach we can't fire him you don't think the Rooney's are checking every time Mike Tomlin don't win a game absolutely they know what they're doing they want Mike Tomlin to retire and then go after the next head coach and the next franchise quarterback
The blocking needs to improve. Got to get a good run game
Steelers should get BigBen as a QB Coach or a QC Coach consultant... Ben broke down alot of what Russ could be doing differently.....😮
Ben wouldn't even help Mason when they were on the sideline together and Mason had to fill in for him when he was injured/had his surgery. What makes you think he would be a good QB coach? Don't get me wrong g, what Ben did on the field in his prime was awesome, but when it comes to being helpful to other QBs (even teammates), hard pass on that!!!
@jeffvanduyne4614 That was about competition for the same spot. Being retired, that is a non issue.... Let's move on..
@dlc8506 It actually had nothing to do with competition. Ben knew he was going to be the starter, and regardless of whether it was or wasn't, you should want what's best for the TEAM! It's THAT mentality and those actions that cause teams to self-destruct when your QB goes down and he hasn't taken the time to work with the guy behind him to make sure he's capable of going out there and getting the W!!!! And just because of that self-centered, me first attitude, I wouldn't even consider bringing him in.
@@BeardedDutchman Charlie Batch was behind ben, and Charlie was the best back up of all time. So unless u have facts to prove competition 4 the same spot had nothing to do with it, then yr just speculating. Have a good day.
@@dlc8506 🤣🤣🤣🤣You're absolutely delusional!!! First of all, there was no way Charlie Batch was taking the staring job from Ben. Second, Mason Rudolph and multiple other teammates of Ben's all said the same thing. And third, Charlie Batch definitely wasn't the best backup of all time!! That title belongs to Tom Brady!! And he absolutely proved it the second he stepped in for Drew Bledsoe after Mo Lewis from the Jets hit him and caused internal bleeding and some damage in his rib cage...Thank you..have a nice day!
#LEARNBALL
Rooney has lost touch reality........No wonder Tomlin hasn't got fired yet.
Thank chrius
If Fields gets offered one more penny from another team he’d be an idiot not to take it after what Tomlin did last season
Just keep running out the non losing seasons trophy. We have a standard to maintain.
Siriani was being run out Philly all year and now they are in the super bowl.
I am so tired of hearing about the QB. It's not like QBs fall from trees. You need an offensive line coach that can get the best out of the two 1st round picks you recently made. Also, a running back that can break a 30 yard run every now and then would be nice. Just start Fields and draft QB to develop. Sadly, Tomlin can't develop players so what is the point of any of this. Philly showed you how to build a team without a great QB, but Art Rooney II is asleep at the wheel.
First and second round picks
Pittsburgh Needs to keep building the offensive line and defense line to help the run game, run stops. It doesn't make sense to get rid of a 1,000 yard rushing Harris. And he's doing it splitting time with 2 other backs, and a Weak Ass Offensive Line..... I thought this is what ever NFL wanted. 😮😮😮😮 1,000 rusher,great pass catcher, great blocking, and hardly fumble the ball....JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND
As much as I want to believe this is a pure competition, guys working hard to win, how much evidence do you need to see, Vegas makes the calls as to who moves on to post season and who they want to take it all. I’m losing faith in this WWE, NFL, National football Entertainment league. NFEL.
Problem with drafting a QB is 'History' . A rookie QB has never won a Superbowl . Dan Marino came the closest .
Needs to go get both those two guys you mentioned first
Rooney has to PAY the COACHING staff and he WILL NOT he is and shall remain Cheap AF. Nothing will change so next season 9-8 Book it!
If you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan you should have known what art Rooney mint what he meant by we don't know what to do and there's nothing we can do because we don't keep a quarterback more than 2 years and we never start the quarterback if he has a losing season first off we never start a quarterback in his rookie season and that's the starter gets hurt we know what we have in Russell Wilson we don't know what we have and Justin fields and there's a fam we don't care if we win we just fed up with the way everything is going down we just want to get a quarterback in the the next day what we have not keep them one year and get rid of them I want to buy a Jersey like I did with Mason Rudolph when we dropped Tim I wasn't going to buy a Kenny Pickens when I have a Mason Rudolph I don't believe in him but he never really had a chance even as a starter they f*** them from his rookie year we get a quarterback this year next year it don't matter set him I know that you're going to lose and hang on to the starting quarterback and give them a chance to develop no matter what why don't you know you've seen it potential you get rid of them that's if they don't turn into a great quarterback that's why he didn't answer your question
Alan, your rationale that the Steelers can capably get a franchise quarterback by moving up to 10 or 11.... 2004 is the second best quarterback class in history. 3 franchise quarterbacks went and 1 fell to 11 because Eli Manning decided to refuse to play for SD and some aren't picks by quarterback needy teams. You're plan to get another franchise quarterback is wait for enough blue chip quarterbacks to enter the draft and have enough other players in the draft that are HoF caliber that teams won't jump up higher in the draft to get the quarterbacks. Not impossible but incredibly foolish to bank on it. Give me a break.
@@zzospreyzz55 so when the Chiefs traded up to 10 after being the 2-seed in the playoffs for Patrick Mahomes, or the Ravens got Lamar Jackson at 32, or the Packers took Love at 26 … they were foolish? Alan isn’t saying it will be easy but the opportunity isn’t there right now and being ready to pounce when an opportunity arrives is their best bet.
Im still waiting for other teams to lineup and steal our coordinators. Tomlin is the only "great" coach who no one ever wants his coaches. That shouod tell you everything.
Not one part of this team do others look at and say "we need that".
This quarterback talk is a joke. It has nothing to do with qb. Tomlin has had 3 QB up for a heismann, 2 quarterbacks who are hall of fame level, and actually a pretty solid QB at Mason Rudolph who gave them a good shot and was clearly a strong leader. There is no big splash at QB. The fact that it’s even discussed as a “QB problem” is adding fuel to all this bullshit. It’s clearly the result of the culture and the people in the organization who don’t do the things to create a championship culture.
@@jordans6353 soon as you said Mason Rudolph was “clearly a strong leader” your football talk pass was revoked.
Stop making excuses for Kenny Pickett. How is A. Smith not doing his job Russell's fault? The offensive plays were predictable and stale the last 5 games. There was nothing new in the playoffs.
We know what we have in Russell Wilson and he ain't going to win at the super bowl and that's what Mike Tomlin wants this way he can retire but we need a quarterback an aunt Rooney don't know what to do because there's no quarterback in college where did Bill Collins come from they're going to look in the free agents I do not be surprised like you said a one-year deal Russell Wilson had gone
Putting Mike Tomlin in the same sentence as Andy Reid is dumb and short-sighted too, apples and oranges bro, not even close. Andy Reid toys with Mike Tomlin when they play each other
Rooney is not changing anything. I really believe he is getting senile because he is beginning to remind me of Joe Biden when he speaks. There is not change that is going to fix the Steelers except the firing of Mike Tomlin.
One year Dell and see what we have and Justin fields and hopefully next year we can have a losing season this year if not you know what you have in Justin fields you have to give him a chance we gave Russell a chance we know what he had
The theory of what he said? Dude
I hate the premise that you guys have no faith in Fields when it was a forgone conclusion he was going to play more than 50% of the snaps....Why would they give up a 4th round pick to the Bears..when FIelds has shown when allowed to play to his strengths wins games..we saw what we needed to see in Fields in those six games...you all will eat crow this season due to your unbelief....their is no coach that is going to lead the STeelers better than Mike Tomlin a ththis time...the only thing we need to do is make a couple of tweaks onb defense..we have enough weapons on offense...the only thing that needs to happen is scheme players open....that's it...if we keep the RBs Najee should only be for anything in between 20 yards and the goal line....smh
Chris… please stop bringing Allen Saunders on the show and forcing him down our throat every Tuesday. No disrespect Alan. But your takes on everything is so negative. You always talk about the quarterback, the quarterback, the quarterback. You make it seem like Justin Fields is slim Pickens. We get it, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar, Jackson, Josh Allen, hell even Jerry golf is possibly better than Justin Field. But Jesus Christ, can we get a full season and a competent offense FOH
Russell Wilson will not be playing in 25 with the Pittsburgh Steelers
Yepper
I will tell you the truth right now we are not bringing back a running back and we're not going to bring back Russell Wilson would probably going to get rid of some offensive players and maybe won defensive player you know who I'm talking about we're going to go after free agent but one not going to pay a wide receiver I'm not going to pay a quarterback until we know he can win a damn game
I would sign Russ to one year ad try to get Carson Wentz, because he had to learn something under Mahomes and Andy Reid. If I couldn’t get Wentz I would go with Justin Fields. We know one thing about KP08 and that is he cannot stay on the field
We also know 1 thing about JF2......he puts the ball on the ground more than a line judge!!! Correction, we know 2 things about JF2, the second thing we know is that he's nothing more than a game manager and game managers don't win championships!!
They are going to start Justin fields and see what they have you're not going to move from Russell Wilson to bring an Aaron Rodgers you already know what you have in Aaron Rodgers the same thing we have in Russell Wilson
Get real tomlin is not good enough to build a dynasty . He’s a good leader and was able to take cowhers core to 2 superbowls . Since cowhers talent went away it’s been mid
Let’s not forget all the years of wasted talent
Replace Najee with Javonte Williams
Chris that wasn't to you
I’m so sick of this process talk shit it’s been 10 years since we won a playoff game guys. It’s very easy fire. The coach start over gets the new players. If it works it works. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t all I can tell you it’s not gonna work with what we have and there’s no nothing suggest it would
Mike Tomlin it going to have to stay with the quarterback and then he'll lose his job he probably going to retire
Fields qb1
I would rather see Najee stay and Arthur Smith go.
If we get rid of Kenny Pickens
Milroe has little hands like Pickett. I’m out on him!
Deal sorry
lol. I hope this team wins 2 games next year. 🤣🤣🤣
Steelers are my team since 1970 they are not gonna win nothing with these coaches and has been quarterback they still playing checkers and everybody else is playing chess
@Locked on Steelers
Chris you're correct if Mike Tomlin pulled a Andy Reid and built a dynasty elsewhere, I would be sick, so yes let Mike Tomlin fix it here first
Art sounds like a delusional old man trying to protect his company.
Art thinks a smaller coaching staff is better bc he’s cheap..
Just because you do not agree with it does NOT make the Andy Reid comparison stupid.
Art is truly the problem
A dinosaur running a dinosaur organization
What skill set does Justin have though? Never in my 40 years of life have I ever heard of a vet that's clearly a back up starting and needing another player as the same as the back up. Justin is already a Qb2 why why why say he's the best let Russ retire a Steeler and let Justin continue to learn. No one wants to play like Justin fields no one. I don't know one. This what it's come to now just make anything up. I have heard Rodgers and flacoo. Name mentioned. Both similar to Russ. Why not have a vet Russ that can clearly get you in the playoffs. Justin would have lost all the gauntlet games. Man let's not act like if Russ wasn't hurt we wouldn't have went 12 and 6 possibly 13 and 5.
If this is true than why did DJ Moore & Cole Kmet have career years with him as their qb?
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Fields was benched cause they didn’t anticipate picket leaving signed Wilson, with some assurance that he’d play. “Pole position “ remember?? Dallas runs the length of field for game winning TD. That’s on defense otherwise fields is benched at 5-1 nevertheless 4-2. Tomlin made the call “ big bucks” comment. He was wrong. Russle the one trick pony choked when the afc north ravens and others had more dog in the fight. No #2 WR bad line play on both sides ugly end season. the Steelers org. Should have trusted Denver head coach. Russle holds the ball takes sacks. Can’t see the field. With good moonball aka Hail Mary. Lfg!! Fields 2025
I like you two together and your viewpoints. Those calling for Tomlin to be fired are just acting out of emotion and never liked the man from the beginning. They wanted a white guy to coach
Naw bro, even as a staunch supporter of Tomlin, dude has one a playoff game in only 4 of the 18 seasons that he’s been the coach. That kind of performance when it matters and still being employed is crazy work.