I’ve used the dowelmax for years and love it. I have a tip you might like. When dry fitting if using many dowels like you did on the table, espically double rows it can be extremely hard to disassemble. I take some test dowels and lightly sand them and lightly spray paint them a bright color so dryfitting is very easy.
And store bought Domino tenons are the same way. I have about 20 or so of each thickness sanded down for dry fit. I just mark them with a Sharpie. But really you can tell because they are smooth and don't have the glue crinkles.
I have a 2x4 that I’ve drilled different depth holes in to get my collar depth. I just put the bit in the hole and push the collar down until it hits the 2x4 and then tighten the collar.
Nice video showcasing everything that can be done with the dowelmax. I have had mine for 3 years and I love it. One pro tip that they don’t mention in the instructions is to use the pin to align the jig to the edge of the workpiece instead of by touch. So use the first hole for the pin and then drill into the second hole. Takes some of the uncertainty out of the hole locations.
I know exactly what you mean regarding uncertain alignment by touch but haven't understood your solution...'use the pin to align...'. Are you talking about the 'indexing' pin from the video, eg at 4:58?
I did my research like 5 years ago and got convinced that the Dowelmax was the best. Bought it for half the price like new from eBay and bought the rest of the accessories new. Once you learn to use it, it becomes second nature. And the thought that your builds have no metal in them is amazing.
I have used a Dowelmax for many years. One project I made about 6 years ago comes to mind. My gym wanted new benches. Some customers weighed over 300 lbs and kept breaking their benches and chairs in the locker room. I made new benches 5 ft long with a shelf and center devider out of 3/4 inch birch plywood jointed using the dowelmax. No dowel ends were visible. I used rattle can paint to add some color. When they were finished I had used no screws and 69 dowels in each bench, all perfectly aligned. I recently checked out the benches and I could find no cracks or loose joints. A Dowelmax is well worth the price.
Yes, I want to see a video on the Grizzley Domino machine. Thanks for reviewing this dowel jig, I'll be getting one. Looking forward to your upcoming video's on a less expensive shop setup.
Yes also @MakeSomething! Triton also makes some of the dowlling machines and, for reference, Peter Millard @10MinuteWorkshop is on his fourth I think...not all of them the cat's meow it seems and I would say more polarization than the Domino according to UA-cam videos!
I've said it in all the videos comparing the domino to the other joinery systems: I love the dowelmax. It's literally the only thing keeping me from buying a domino. Amazing jig. Worth investing in extra drill bits so you don't need to adjust depths as often, and also the 1/4" guide and block set, and the 1/2" guide and block set if you'll be doing bigger or heavier duty projects. I like 1/2" for big boi seating and things like doors. I can't say enough good things about this jig.
I too have used the DowelMax for several years, and love it as well. It’s my go to tool for joinery if I’m not using dados and grooves. For the ‘casual’ user, I suggest keeping the instructions handy. I find that unless I use it regularly I need to remind myself how to set up and align the jig properly to assure good results.
I'm a Dowelmax user. I bought the entire system in all available sizes, plus the brilliant depth gauge for setting up the drill bit's stop collar. This is a FANTASTIC tool. The materials and machining are top notch. I'll probably pick up a Domino some day, but this really does everything that I need it to do and does it very well. With the depth gauge I probably have about $600 invested in the Dowelmax- I don't regret it at all. It's a joy to use.
David, one of the best things I did for my DowelMax is taking a set of calipers and scribing centerlines on some of the reference faces. That way you can use it like a typical dowel jig as well.
As someone who has drilled thousands of holes using a dowelling jig (not the DowelMax), the key is a sharp drill bit. For a very long time I didn't realize this and I still have drilling nightmares. I'm sure the DowelMax is a fine product, but trust me: make sure your drill bit is sharp, otherwise drilling gets to be awfully fatiguing.
David I have seen a lot of videos on the dowelmax since I have owned one for years...Your video is one of the best I have seen in a long time, keep up the good work.
I have a DowelMax-love it! I stopped using pocket holes and don’t miss them at all. One important point to note-IMHO it is most suited to a home shop user. It’s too fiddly and slow for a professional environment-I believe that’s where a Domino is better suited. As for the cost-worth every penny! And as Dave pointed out, it’s way cheaper than a Domino!
@@Tigerratcat Sorry to chuckle at your question. Without question dowels are much stronger than pocket holes. There have been countless tests here on YT that show this. Pocket holes can be quicker, depending on what pocket hole equipment you have.
@@weldabar Chuckle away. I’m a complete newbie. To me it seems there’s a limitation to dowels where the whole project has to be assembled out in the open, where as you can assemble pocket hole pieces in place. I tried pocket holes for the first few time. I’m definitely not impressed with the strength. You can strip the thread so easily with an impact driver when it bottoms out
@@TigerratcatI use the dowelmax because I HATE the look of pocket holes. If they are completely hidden then so be it, but usually they aren’t.. or they are used on objects like chairs that need the extra strength of the glue joint and even a beautifully hidden pocket hole isn’t a replacement for a dowel or good jointery. They are fantastic for cabinet frames in particular because it is all hidden and none of those connections should ever experience much shear or any wracking force(s)
i bought my dowelmax back around 2003-2004, in toronto (iam a yank) and i have used it on just about every project since (hobby work) and have never had a failure or disappointment----great company great people great product thanx rick
I got one of these when they first came out, 15ish years ago. I think I paid $300 and have never regretted it. Well designed, well made and worth every penny.
Honestly, watching you get excited about the ease of assembly when testing this was more convincing than anything else. I've had issues with other dowel jigs and it always seems like they're slightly off or slightly wonky. Can't wait to start building with my new Dowelmax!
I have been using my dowelmax for about 4yrs. and I love it. I could not justify a domino jointer to my boss ,AKA my wife. FYI, you can also purchase a 5/16 dowel adapter which I use primarily for 3/4 inch material. And yes, I have two drill bits with stop collars set to different depths. I was able to justify that to my boss.
For when you want to drill lots of super accurate holes to pound some pegs into. $200 doesn't actually sound all that bad for as good as it seems to work. Cheaper than any Woodpeckers measuring tool at least and twice as functional. I'll have to think about adding one to my arsenal. Thanks for sharing!
I’m not even a woodworker in any way shape or form. The Dowelmax would be completely useless for me, but this video made me NEED it! That thing looks magical. 😂😂😂
I have both. Both work well. One is faster, easier, and more consistent. The other is much cheaper. One has a power chord and is blue with Green buttons. The other has brass knobs. One of them is on the top shelf in my workshop. The other is consistently on my workbench when doing joinery. Pretty sure you can figure it out. Yes the Dowelmax works but for productivity, consistency, repeatability, and quality of work if you can afford the Domino, you will not be disappointed.
@@researchandbuild1751 It is just a personal preference for me. I have used the Domino more and more and it works well for me, but know others that swear by the Dowelmax. I just found it a bit fiddly and not as versatile and much slower. But, there are places you cannot get the Domino and have resorted back to my Dowelmax for them.
I have this jig and believe me, it is a load of crap, it is just another dowel jig; No better or worse than any other jig on the market, and much too much expensive. Don't waste your money. If you want to do dowel joinery, you can make your own simple jig that works as good as this one and it will cost you nothing. Don't get conned guys. This is my honest opinion of the jig and I paid for mine; Not a freebie so I didn't feel obligated to give a good report on it. These guys are paid influencers and their aim is to promote an item and brainwash you into buying it. If you buy this jig on an influencer's advice, you are a sucker.
Really good video showing all the different joint configurations. I just received my Dowelmax a week ago. I am 100% just a hobbyist woodwork and I definitely consider myself to be on the lower end of the skill curve. That being said, within 15 minutes of unboxing the jig, I was joining scraps of wood together with absolute professional results. I honestly can't stress enough how easy this thing is to use. I'm in Canada, so I paid just over $300 cdn for mine. And yes, that is a chunk of change for a tool that you don't plug in, but once you get it in your hands and feel the build quality, the price will make a lot more sense.
I have used the Dowelmax for years also. It is simple to use, makes a very strong joint and is extremely accurate. The accuracy is not dependent on how precise you can measure and mark, the accuracy is built into it. Watch a few videos to see the details.
the domino comes standard with an extra support to put it upright on a board. But this looks like a pretty good cheaper alternative. You''l loose a bit more time, but it seems reasonable with this one. And for a hobbyist time is not a big issue.
I ve had a dowel max kit I bought on eBay and absolutely love it. It’s not a Festool Domino but it’s solid !!! Great video. And I think we need a video on the grizzly double banger!!!
I listened to it three times. Are you saying that you're paying $160 bucks a piece for 2x4s?. You must live on another planet. I'm afraid I would have to find another hobby. You are one of the privileged ones my friend $160, That's just crazy . All kidding aside, I love your videos. You do a great job. Save us a lot of time and money. I'm really looking forward to the new channel. I'm a big fan of Wen. Thanks again!!!
I knew you through the Bandsaw Box book you wrote (great book!). Then I discovered your two channels and such a wealth of incredible resources about woodworking! Actually it's a bit depressing matching my lab and my tools with what you have (looks like a five star thing your one) but I try to not let myself too down because of this! Thank you!
I have one, like it, have used it just for one project, but works very well as one takes the time to ensure the spots are correct, it is a win. Budget friendly compared to the Domino, won't replace it, but it will be my tool when I do furniture and need this type of joint.
A great jig for the hobby woodworker who wants to make fast and accurate joints but cannot afford/justify splashing out on the Festool Domino. I agree though that it will never replace the Festool Domino, which is still the best there is for quick and easy but perfectly accurate joints.
I definitely like these Dowelmax tools shown in the video. Just looked at their website and they are expensive in Australian Dollars, but they are also worth the prices. It would help greatly in some woodworking furniture.
I went all in on the dowelmax , bought all the attachments and sizes. Absolutely love it have used for projects , joinery , cabinets , jigs and tons more over the years. Still want a domino, just for the ease of it and really not much thinking about setup. I have to keep the dowelmax instructions around so I can reference as I am always screwing up the setup.
I was looking at their site after seeing this at 3am. Too tired to load up a full on setup in a cart to see what the total all in price would be including multiple bits and accessories. Especially on a phone. Been considering the festool. But with this tool you could highlight dowels in work rather than hiding them and making your own dowels out of various woods. The festool domino just isn't very pretty in such an application. Though watching through Japanese joinery with simple hand saws and chisels is a whole other level entirely.
I feel this is a great option for someone who makes just ok furniture from time to time and doesn't want to spend the money on the Domino. That being it looks amazing. Well done again with the video and yes i definitely want to see the grizzly video.
13:09 Now a separate 45 miter adapter insert can be attached, allowing the built in clamps to work with the 45 plate, removing the need for an external clamp.
I've seen a few people on UA-cam mention how nice the dowelmax is and I've always been a little sceptical due to my past experience with doweling jigs. I therefore haven't considered purchasing the dowelmax until this video. Thanks for always being honest and trustworthy, Dave. Also, I'd love to see that Grisly in action.
Doweling jigs in general are junk from my experience, just like you said. The only exception is dowelmax which I own and maybe Jessem which I don't have.
TBH I'm super excited about this wen video! I've been trying to kit out my garage shop and those prices are super appealing compared to other brands... the concern is always quality.
I have the DowelMax and love it. Great system that yields strong and precise flush joints. I purchased after a lot research into domino and biscuit joints.
My friend and mentor talked me into getting the domino. He was right when he said I’d spend a bunch of money and still always want the domino. Hasn’t got used much lately but it’s amazing when I do need it. However there are times where dowels would make a bit more sense. This looks like an amazing option
I’m a Domino owner. I overpaid for a tool that works AMAZINGLY, and I would buy it again today. I also want a DM. I can see different applications where both tools would shine.
This tool looks very refined, indeed. I have a cheap plastic dowel jig that hardly gets used as I have a Domino that I grab for those things. I don't see dust extraction or a quick way to go to smaller bits/dowels, so if that's correct then that would be a negative for me vs the Domino. That aside, I am curious to learn for what applications you would choose the DM over the Domino?
The more I see videos of domino alternatives It makes me want one more and more lol it’s so much faster than any other method. Non the less great video and I just might pick up one of these
I love the Wen tools. I have the spindle sander, disc and belt sander and track saw. My next will be the 4214 variable speed drill press. This dowel jig is awesome. So glad you did this video
If you buy the drill press, be sure to check it for square. The problem is that the press bed flexes out of square from the post when you tighten it. I went through two of them before I finally decided to just make a drill press table and shim it square.
I have the Wen trim router, spindle sander and the VS drill press. The later two came up on Amazon as one day deals...$85 spindle sander and $195 drill press. Don't hate me 😢 Haven't run across the problem GD had with the drill press table, but am now aware of the potential. Thanks, GD 😊. Otherwise, all three have given me yoman's service and I am well satisfied. Dowelmax...hmmm. Don't really use dowels other than cheap shelf pegs. I did when I first started (Reagan was Pres then...) but had heinous difficulty lining joints up after drilling. So...I made my own pocket hole jig that fit my auxiliary drill press table and used that for years until Kreg came along. But ..I am intrigued by the Dowelmax and would certainly consider it if I should choose to use dowels again. I can see where functionality outweighs cost...as long as I don't tell Momma😂
Very interesting video demo' of this dowel jig. Like many other woodworkers, I'd love to own a Domino, but just can't justify the cost for the amount of use I'd get from it. Honestly, I'd rather sink the money into a decent cabinet saw. Nowadays, though, with the cost of material - even 4by2 - going cheap on the tools can end up costing more. I've tried the cheap dowel jigs - Wolfcraft, absolutely rubbish, wanders all over the place and takes forever to set up for all but the most basic joints - but they just don't give consistent, repeatable results. Anyway, thanks for sharing!
It's a very nice tool (I have one) but my Jessem dowel jig is much fast to work with. I have the Generation 1, 2 and 3. Gen 3 you can get the 45 degree adapter and the only reason I bought it.. As to the grizzly dowel jig video, NO. My friend bought one and it was junk and sent it back. Great video.
Dowelmax is the real deal, the level of precision on the machined parts is insane. The only cons I have comparing it to the Domino is speed, dust collection, and maybe ergonomics. Setup and prep is similar between the two, marking reference faces. Clamping and unclamping slows things down, and the brass knurled knobs and the threaded rods can bust your knuckles if you rush.
Most people convince themselves and believe what they want to believe. This jig is no more accurate than a $20 Dowel jig. I have this jig and it's crap for the money.
@@johnrobinson1020 I strongly disagree, I also have a harbor freight dowel jig and it blows. I do agree that there are cheaper jigs that can also give acceptable results, but I've never had the dowelmax fail me.
Spoken like someone who's never used both options. I have a $25 dowelling jig gathering dust. I bought it before the dowelmax and was never able to get consistent, reliably accurate joints with it. If you actually have a DowelMax and you can't get better results, its a "you problem."@@johnrobinson1020
Great tool but not for the average guy . Ridiculous price on both the tools in the video. My shop don't weren't that. Having said that you put a good video on and make it seem easy . Great to watch 👍👍💯
In addition to the grizzly dowel tool, I would love to see a comparison of the dowelmax to the JessEm. They both seem great and it's so hard to decide between the two. Maybe one for your nice shop and the other for your budget shop??
After doing a lot of research a year ago, I ended up purchasing the original JessEm master kit and I have zero regrets. Both of these tools are great options and have their strengths and weaknesses. I opted for the Jessem for two reasons. 1. It can reference randomly placed dowels for edge joining. 2. Value. It's noticeably less expensive which is surprising considering the quality craftsmanship. I do wish JessEm had the stainless steel jigs when I purchased as they are even less expensive and can hit the angles the Dowelmax can.
I have the JessEm. The indexing features are really critical to making a dowel system work, and the JessEm jig works very similarly to the Domino in that regard (I do have a Domino, btw, and both have their place in my shop).
Came here looking for this comment. I wound up getting the Jessem because you can get the whole kit with all three sizes for less than the Dowelmax with one. Only thing I don't really like is that you have to clamp it yourself.
Definitely would benefit and enjoy getting your take on the Grizzly Dowel machine! Have been eyeing it for a while wondering if it'd be worth stepping up from a jig to be just a bit more efficient. Appreciate the content!
I’ve owned a dowel Max for years, now and love it. The other dowel jigs are no where near as accurate. The people at Dowel Max are very helpful and courteous. Btw, try their Router table, it is amazing and so simple compared to all the fancy expensive router lift tables
I've used the DowelMax for years and use it as my primary means of joinery. It's easy, versatile, and I can't recommend it enough. It's especially useful for gluing up panels and eliminates any off set between wood pieces eliminating sanding. I've also used the Festol Domino and have to say I'm not impressed especially considering the price.
So glad you ended with the grizzly dual dowelimg machine. Only $160 full price and is very similar to the Festool domino. Want to know how it works before I get one though and trust your reviews over pretty much anyone else. Thanks for the great alternative.
In Czech rep this is a very common jig but there you buy like a foot long bar so great for sheet work. Different locksmiths/machining places make their own versions of these....
I have the much older version of the Dowelmax and it's never let me down. Great video David & yes I would like to see a video about that Grizzly tool. 👍👍🔨🔨
Mostly commenting to feed the algorithm because I love your content. I did want to say that I read a bunch of reviews on the Grizzly dual doweller (as well as the Igooo spindle doweller which is the same thing, badged differently), and they are mediocre at best. Most folks are commenting that they are not square, accurate. There is a REALLY expensive dual doweller by a brand called Mafell, but it retails for higher than the domino, so....
When you’re doing a video of that grizzly double dowler… can you also try out the triton dowling tool that looks exactly like it? My neighbor has one for sale for $50 and I’m thinking about it.
I had the jessem dowel kit with 1/4 , 3/8 , 1/2 doweling blocks and it's simular to this jig and very precise, but over the years I got spoiled with the domino and haven't touched the dowel jig in years , yes they are good for pro and homeowners but in real world furniture making the domino wins speed and accuracy wise , thank you for your amazing videos
Yes. Please review the Grizzly. I almost bought one a few years ago, but I couldn't find any video reviews. So I decided to save my money until I deserved to buy myself the Festool Domino someday (not yet). Triton also makes a power dowel jointer, but reviews weren't great.
Yep. I wanna see a video on that. I think the 3.6 star reviews on it probably speak for themselves, though. Looking forward to the Wen video as a budget guy. A little disappointed we didn't hear the drill some holes; pound some pegs song, but I didn't really see much pounding so maybe you know best. 🎶 🤷♂️
This is kind of funny. The Wood Whisperer did a video showing this tool 13 years ago. A few other youtubers have found it finally and are now doing vids about it. Its crazy how long it can take for certain things to become popular. I love this tool. I own a CNC shop so I reversed engineered/ machined my own a few years ago.
I’ve used the dowelmax for years and love it. I have a tip you might like. When dry fitting if using many dowels like you did on the table, espically double rows it can be extremely hard to disassemble. I take some test dowels and lightly sand them and lightly spray paint them a bright color so dryfitting is very easy.
Why the spray paint?
So you know which ones are the test ones 👍 @@DocXango
And store bought Domino tenons are the same way. I have about 20 or so of each thickness sanded down for dry fit. I just mark them with a Sharpie. But really you can tell because they are smooth and don't have the glue crinkles.
I have 3/8” Teflon rod I cut into test dowels. Easy peasy folks.
@@DocXango to indicate test fit dowells
I have a 2x4 that I’ve drilled different depth holes in to get my collar depth. I just put the bit in the hole and push the collar down until it hits the 2x4 and then tighten the collar.
Nice video showcasing everything that can be done with the dowelmax. I have had mine for 3 years and I love it. One pro tip that they don’t mention in the instructions is to use the pin to align the jig to the edge of the workpiece instead of by touch. So use the first hole for the pin and then drill into the second hole. Takes some of the uncertainty out of the hole locations.
Interesting! I like this idea.
I also prefer this method.
Thanks for the tip
What an awesome tip!
I know exactly what you mean regarding uncertain alignment by touch but haven't understood your solution...'use the pin to align...'. Are you talking about the 'indexing' pin from the video, eg at 4:58?
This is just a well thought out tool clearly made for pretty much all woodworkers who don't want to buy the domino. Thanks for posting this!
I did my research like 5 years ago and got convinced that the Dowelmax was the best. Bought it for half the price like new from eBay and bought the rest of the accessories new. Once you learn to use it, it becomes second nature. And the thought that your builds have no metal in them is amazing.
I have used a Dowelmax for many years. One project I made about 6 years ago comes to mind. My gym wanted new benches. Some customers weighed over 300 lbs and kept breaking their benches and chairs in the locker room. I made new benches 5 ft long with a shelf and center devider out of 3/4 inch birch plywood jointed using the dowelmax. No dowel ends were visible. I used rattle can paint to add some color. When they were finished I had used no screws and 69 dowels in each bench, all perfectly aligned. I recently checked out the benches and I could find no cracks or loose joints. A Dowelmax is well worth the price.
Yes, I want to see a video on the Grizzley Domino machine. Thanks for reviewing this dowel jig, I'll be getting one. Looking forward to your upcoming video's on a less expensive shop setup.
Yes also @MakeSomething! Triton also makes some of the dowlling machines and, for reference, Peter Millard @10MinuteWorkshop is on his fourth I think...not all of them the cat's meow it seems and I would say more polarization than the Domino according to UA-cam videos!
@@jeffbaker8808 On his fourth and it's still sending him nuts 🤣
Yeah I was looking at those on Amazon
He won't make it because the tool is subpar. I guess that's why you've not seen a review.
Have had the Dowellmax for years. Expensive but worth every penny. Joint comes out perfect every time. I love this tool!!!
I've said it in all the videos comparing the domino to the other joinery systems: I love the dowelmax. It's literally the only thing keeping me from buying a domino. Amazing jig. Worth investing in extra drill bits so you don't need to adjust depths as often, and also the 1/4" guide and block set, and the 1/2" guide and block set if you'll be doing bigger or heavier duty projects. I like 1/2" for big boi seating and things like doors. I can't say enough good things about this jig.
I too have used the DowelMax for several years, and love it as well. It’s my go to tool for joinery if I’m not using dados and grooves. For the ‘casual’ user, I suggest keeping the instructions handy. I find that unless I use it regularly I need to remind myself how to set up and align the jig properly to assure good results.
He recommends it @19:34. Now you can watch the video without wondering if you are wasting your time. You’re Welcome!
Yeah, I pretty much recommended in the title and thumbnail. But we do appreciate your effort!
I'm a Dowelmax user. I bought the entire system in all available sizes, plus the brilliant depth gauge for setting up the drill bit's stop collar.
This is a FANTASTIC tool. The materials and machining are top notch. I'll probably pick up a Domino some day, but this really does everything that I need it to do and does it very well. With the depth gauge I probably have about $600 invested in the Dowelmax- I don't regret it at all. It's a joy to use.
The depth gauge is the one thing I still need to get.
David, one of the best things I did for my DowelMax is taking a set of calipers and scribing centerlines on some of the reference faces. That way you can use it like a typical dowel jig as well.
Yep. I did the same thing. makes it much easier to do depth centering without a lot of measuring/trial and error.
As someone who has drilled thousands of holes using a dowelling jig (not the DowelMax), the key is a sharp drill bit. For a very long time I didn't realize this and I still have drilling nightmares. I'm sure the DowelMax is a fine product, but trust me: make sure your drill bit is sharp, otherwise drilling gets to be awfully fatiguing.
David I have seen a lot of videos on the dowelmax since I have owned one for years...Your video is one of the best I have seen in a long time, keep up the good work.
I have a DowelMax-love it! I stopped using pocket holes and don’t miss them at all. One important point to note-IMHO it is most suited to a home shop user. It’s too fiddly and slow for a professional environment-I believe that’s where a Domino is better suited. As for the cost-worth every penny! And as Dave pointed out, it’s way cheaper than a Domino!
Do you find dowels stronger than pocket holes?
@@Tigerratcat Sorry to chuckle at your question. Without question dowels are much stronger than pocket holes. There have been countless tests here on YT that show this. Pocket holes can be quicker, depending on what pocket hole equipment you have.
@@weldabar Chuckle away. I’m a complete newbie. To me it seems there’s a limitation to dowels where the whole project has to be assembled out in the open, where as you can assemble pocket hole pieces in place.
I tried pocket holes for the first few time. I’m definitely not impressed with the strength. You can strip the thread so easily with an impact driver when it bottoms out
@@TigerratcatI use the dowelmax because I HATE the look of pocket holes. If they are completely hidden then so be it, but usually they aren’t.. or they are used on objects like chairs that need the extra strength of the glue joint and even a beautifully hidden pocket hole isn’t a replacement for a dowel or good jointery. They are fantastic for cabinet frames in particular because it is all hidden and none of those connections should ever experience much shear or any wracking force(s)
i bought my dowelmax back around 2003-2004, in toronto (iam a yank) and i have used it on just about every project since (hobby work) and have never had a failure or disappointment----great company great people great product thanx rick
You only just convinced me to buy pocket hole jig 6 years ago. Now I have to go buy this too?... Of course I do :) Love your work as always.
I've owned this for almost 15 years, takes more time, but works perfect!
I got one of these when they first came out, 15ish years ago. I think I paid $300 and have never regretted it. Well designed, well made and worth every penny.
Excellent video showing the Dowelmax. Very quick demos, very well edited and comprehensive. I never had to skip forward once.
Honestly, watching you get excited about the ease of assembly when testing this was more convincing than anything else. I've had issues with other dowel jigs and it always seems like they're slightly off or slightly wonky.
Can't wait to start building with my new Dowelmax!
I have been using my dowelmax for about 4yrs. and I love it. I could not justify a domino jointer to my boss ,AKA my wife. FYI, you can also purchase a 5/16 dowel adapter which I use primarily for 3/4 inch material. And yes, I have two drill bits with stop collars set to different depths. I was able to justify that to my boss.
yes of course we want a video about that. really cool jig
For when you want to drill lots of super accurate holes to pound some pegs into. $200 doesn't actually sound all that bad for as good as it seems to work. Cheaper than any Woodpeckers measuring tool at least and twice as functional. I'll have to think about adding one to my arsenal. Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic video!!!! I am a DowelMax evangelist, it is so nicely machined, and works perfectly!!!!
I’m not even a woodworker in any way shape or form. The Dowelmax would be completely useless for me, but this video made me NEED it! That thing looks magical. 😂😂😂
I have both. Both work well. One is faster, easier, and more consistent. The other is much cheaper. One has a power chord and is blue with Green buttons. The other has brass knobs. One of them is on the top shelf in my workshop. The other is consistently on my workbench when doing joinery. Pretty sure you can figure it out. Yes the Dowelmax works but for productivity, consistency, repeatability, and quality of work if you can afford the Domino, you will not be disappointed.
How is the domino accurate when your are just holding it to a pencil line? The dowel max at least clamps and it has pins to guarantee perfect accuracy
@@researchandbuild1751 It is just a personal preference for me. I have used the Domino more and more and it works well for me, but know others that swear by the Dowelmax. I just found it a bit fiddly and not as versatile and much slower. But, there are places you cannot get the Domino and have resorted back to my Dowelmax for them.
Dave is one of the few people I can actually trust when they are sent something for free to review it
I have this jig and believe me, it is a load of crap, it is just another dowel jig; No better or worse than any other jig on the market, and much too much expensive. Don't waste your money. If you want to do dowel joinery, you can make your own simple jig that works as good as this one and it will cost you nothing. Don't get conned guys. This is my honest opinion of the jig and I paid for mine; Not a freebie so I didn't feel obligated to give a good report on it. These guys are paid influencers and their aim is to promote an item and brainwash you into buying it. If you buy this jig on an influencer's advice, you are a sucker.
Really good video showing all the different joint configurations. I just received my Dowelmax a week ago. I am 100% just a hobbyist woodwork and I definitely consider myself to be on the lower end of the skill curve. That being said, within 15 minutes of unboxing the jig, I was joining scraps of wood together with absolute professional results. I honestly can't stress enough how easy this thing is to use. I'm in Canada, so I paid just over $300 cdn for mine. And yes, that is a chunk of change for a tool that you don't plug in, but once you get it in your hands and feel the build quality, the price will make a lot more sense.
I have the Dawelmax and it works great. Dawels really make a really strong joint too.
The idea is perfect and works fantastic. Since I’m a toolmaker I made my own in my garage shop. Cost a whole lot less and was a fun project as well.
Had one for years… definitely get the second (3rd, 4th…) drill bits!
I have used the Dowelmax for years also. It is simple to use, makes a very strong joint and is extremely accurate. The accuracy is not dependent on how precise you can measure and mark, the accuracy is built into it. Watch a few videos to see the details.
Never laughed this much watching a woodworking tool video before watching this one 😂
Great tool and great laugh, thanks.
I have the used other dowel jigs with mixed results, I got the Dowel Max and its by far the best most precise dowel jig, well worth the money
the domino comes standard with an extra support to put it upright on a board. But this looks like a pretty good cheaper alternative. You''l loose a bit more time, but it seems reasonable with this one. And for a hobbyist time is not a big issue.
It's actually a very fast jig/tool, and there is an optional L-bracket you can get to put it upright on a board.
I ve had a dowel max kit I bought on eBay and absolutely love it. It’s not a Festool Domino but it’s solid !!! Great video. And I think we need a video on the grizzly double banger!!!
I listened to it three times. Are you saying that you're paying $160 bucks a piece for 2x4s?. You must live on another planet. I'm afraid I would have to find another hobby. You are one of the privileged ones my friend $160, That's just crazy .
All kidding aside, I love your videos. You do a great job. Save us a lot of time and money. I'm really looking forward to the new channel. I'm a big fan of Wen. Thanks again!!!
I knew you through the Bandsaw Box book you wrote (great book!). Then I discovered your two channels and such a wealth of incredible resources about woodworking! Actually it's a bit depressing matching my lab and my tools with what you have (looks like a five star thing your one) but I try to not let myself too down because of this! Thank you!
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I used a similar tool from Lee Valley and for my home projects, I am more than happy.
I have one, like it, have used it just for one project, but works very well as one takes the time to ensure the spots are correct, it is a win. Budget friendly compared to the Domino, won't replace it, but it will be my tool when I do furniture and need this type of joint.
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A great jig for the hobby woodworker who wants to make fast and accurate joints but cannot afford/justify splashing out on the Festool Domino. I agree though that it will never replace the Festool Domino, which is still the best there is for quick and easy but perfectly accurate joints.
This jig is amazing ..period best one I have seen yet!!
Got my dowelmax several years ago. Works great.
I definitely like these Dowelmax tools shown in the video. Just looked at their website and they are expensive in Australian Dollars, but they are also worth the prices. It would help greatly in some woodworking furniture.
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I went all in on the dowelmax , bought all the attachments and sizes. Absolutely love it have used for projects , joinery , cabinets , jigs and tons more over the years. Still want a domino, just for the ease of it and really not much thinking about setup. I have to keep the dowelmax instructions around so I can reference as I am always screwing up the setup.
Ha! I noticed your comment after I said the same thing a couple minutes ago. Glad to know I’m not the only one who forgets the setup.
I was looking at their site after seeing this at 3am. Too tired to load up a full on setup in a cart to see what the total all in price would be including multiple bits and accessories. Especially on a phone. Been considering the festool. But with this tool you could highlight dowels in work rather than hiding them and making your own dowels out of various woods. The festool domino just isn't very pretty in such an application. Though watching through Japanese joinery with simple hand saws and chisels is a whole other level entirely.
I always use dowels a handy tool to keep around is a multi tool for trimming dowels
Great alternative for us budget limited woodworkers. YES I want a video on the Grizzly tool!
I like using dowels. I have a ShopSmith and the horizontal press makes it super easy. But if I only had a couple to do this could be good.
video on the Grizzly doweling tool? yes, please!
Heck yes, I want to see a video on this
It was fun watching the video and the thumbs up count go up over 100 more while I was watching the video. Thumbs up David! Great demonstration.
I feel this is a great option for someone who makes just ok furniture from time to time and doesn't want to spend the money on the Domino. That being it looks amazing. Well done again with the video and yes i definitely want to see the grizzly video.
Cool, I bought the dowel max about a year ago and love it. Still would like a domino when I grow up. BTW my wife is SLP also - I feel your pain!
13:09 Now a separate 45 miter adapter insert can be attached, allowing the built in clamps to work with the 45 plate, removing the need for an external clamp.
Thanks for the video, as much as I want the domino, I use the Jess’em doweling jig, which is amazing
I've seen a few people on UA-cam mention how nice the dowelmax is and I've always been a little sceptical due to my past experience with doweling jigs. I therefore haven't considered purchasing the dowelmax until this video. Thanks for always being honest and trustworthy, Dave.
Also, I'd love to see that Grisly in action.
Doweling jigs in general are junk from my experience, just like you said. The only exception is dowelmax which I own and maybe Jessem which I don't have.
TBH I'm super excited about this wen video! I've been trying to kit out my garage shop and those prices are super appealing compared to other brands... the concern is always quality.
I have the DowelMax and love it. Great system that yields strong and precise flush joints. I purchased after a lot research into domino and biscuit joints.
My friend and mentor talked me into getting the domino. He was right when he said I’d spend a bunch of money and still always want the domino. Hasn’t got used much lately but it’s amazing when I do need it. However there are times where dowels would make a bit more sense. This looks like an amazing option
We don't have to read the DowelMax manual now! Looks like a great piece of kit!
I use the Jessem dowel jig and love it.
I’m a Domino owner. I overpaid for a tool that works AMAZINGLY, and I would buy it again today. I also want a DM. I can see different applications where both tools would shine.
This tool looks very refined, indeed. I have a cheap plastic dowel jig that hardly gets used as I have a Domino that I grab for those things. I don't see dust extraction or a quick way to go to smaller bits/dowels, so if that's correct then that would be a negative for me vs the Domino. That aside, I am curious to learn for what applications you would choose the DM over the Domino?
The more I see videos of domino alternatives It makes me want one more and more lol it’s so much faster than any other method. Non the less great video and I just might pick up one of these
I’m actually super impressed with this - thanks for making this video!
LOVE my DowelMax! Especially the precision.
That vise!!😮😮
I love the Wen tools. I have the spindle sander, disc and belt sander and track saw. My next will be the 4214 variable speed drill press. This dowel jig is awesome. So glad you did this video
If you buy the drill press, be sure to check it for square. The problem is that the press bed flexes out of square from the post when you tighten it. I went through two of them before I finally decided to just make a drill press table and shim it square.
I have the Wen trim router, spindle sander and the VS drill press. The later two came up on Amazon as one day deals...$85 spindle sander and $195 drill press. Don't hate me 😢
Haven't run across the problem GD had with the drill press table, but am now aware of the potential. Thanks, GD 😊. Otherwise, all three have given me yoman's service and I am well satisfied.
Dowelmax...hmmm. Don't really use dowels other than cheap shelf pegs. I did when I first started (Reagan was Pres then...) but had heinous difficulty lining joints up after drilling. So...I made my own pocket hole jig that fit my auxiliary drill press table and used that for years until Kreg came along. But ..I am intrigued by the Dowelmax and would certainly consider it if I should choose to use dowels again. I can see where functionality outweighs cost...as long as I don't tell Momma😂
I use the dowelmax on all my steel projects, no more welding for ME!!!
Yes siree, Bob.
Very interesting video demo' of this dowel jig. Like many other woodworkers, I'd love to own a Domino, but just can't justify the cost for the amount of use I'd get from it. Honestly, I'd rather sink the money into a decent cabinet saw. Nowadays, though, with the cost of material - even 4by2 - going cheap on the tools can end up costing more. I've tried the cheap dowel jigs - Wolfcraft, absolutely rubbish, wanders all over the place and takes forever to set up for all but the most basic joints - but they just don't give consistent, repeatable results.
Anyway, thanks for sharing!
Looks handy--dowel joints are surprisingly strong. Thanks for showing that to us!
It's a very nice tool (I have one) but my Jessem dowel jig is much fast to work with. I have the Generation 1, 2 and 3. Gen 3 you can get the 45 degree adapter and the only reason I bought it..
As to the grizzly dowel jig video, NO. My friend bought one and it was junk and sent it back. Great video.
To hold the domino just clamp a board over where the domino should lean on. Frank Klaus use that system when using a biscuit jointer. Very simple
Dowelmax is the real deal, the level of precision on the machined parts is insane. The only cons I have comparing it to the Domino is speed, dust collection, and maybe ergonomics. Setup and prep is similar between the two, marking reference faces. Clamping and unclamping slows things down, and the brass knurled knobs and the threaded rods can bust your knuckles if you rush.
Most people convince themselves and believe what they want to believe. This jig is no more accurate than a $20 Dowel jig. I have this jig and it's crap for the money.
@@johnrobinson1020 I strongly disagree, I also have a harbor freight dowel jig and it blows.
I do agree that there are cheaper jigs that can also give acceptable results, but I've never had the dowelmax fail me.
Spoken like someone who's never used both options. I have a $25 dowelling jig gathering dust. I bought it before the dowelmax and was never able to get consistent, reliably accurate joints with it. If you actually have a DowelMax and you can't get better results, its a "you problem."@@johnrobinson1020
Great tool but not for the average guy . Ridiculous price on both the tools in the video. My shop don't weren't that. Having said that you put a good video on and make it seem easy . Great to watch 👍👍💯
Yes please do a video on the grizzly dowel joiner. Maybe compare to other brands that make similar tools.
In addition to the grizzly dowel tool, I would love to see a comparison of the dowelmax to the JessEm. They both seem great and it's so hard to decide between the two. Maybe one for your nice shop and the other for your budget shop??
Avoid the Jessem. I own one. I bought the Domino to replace it. Unless you only use standard board sizes and never need angled joints.
After doing a lot of research a year ago, I ended up purchasing the original JessEm master kit and I have zero regrets. Both of these tools are great options and have their strengths and weaknesses. I opted for the Jessem for two reasons. 1. It can reference randomly placed dowels for edge joining. 2. Value. It's noticeably less expensive which is surprising considering the quality craftsmanship. I do wish JessEm had the stainless steel jigs when I purchased as they are even less expensive and can hit the angles the Dowelmax can.
I have the JessEm. The indexing features are really critical to making a dowel system work, and the JessEm jig works very similarly to the Domino in that regard (I do have a Domino, btw, and both have their place in my shop).
Came here looking for this comment. I wound up getting the Jessem because you can get the whole kit with all three sizes for less than the Dowelmax with one. Only thing I don't really like is that you have to clamp it yourself.
@@f.kieranfinney457 Smooth brain af. Comparing dowel jigs. Not dowel and domino jigs.
I've got a couple WEN tools & really like them for the price.
Definitely would benefit and enjoy getting your take on the Grizzly Dowel machine! Have been eyeing it for a while wondering if it'd be worth stepping up from a jig to be just a bit more efficient. Appreciate the content!
Great video! Would love to see you make the same piece at the end with the domino to see a time comparison between the two
I’ve owned a dowel Max for years, now and love it. The other dowel jigs are no where near as accurate. The people at Dowel Max are very helpful and courteous. Btw, try their Router table, it is amazing and so simple compared to all the fancy expensive router lift tables
Ehhhh my jessem dowel jig is baaaaaang on accurate. Love it but i have not tried the dowel max so i am very biased haha
Spoke before I watched til the end. I’d love to see the Wen reviews, especially the router, almost bought it but went for the Skil instead
Thanks for showing us how awesome the Dowelmax is, and heck yes, let's see a video about the Grizzley Domino machine.
I have a Dowelmax, it's simple to use and I would recommend it.
I've used the DowelMax for years and use it as my primary means of joinery. It's easy, versatile, and I can't recommend it enough. It's especially useful for gluing up panels and eliminates any off set between wood pieces eliminating sanding.
I've also used the Festol Domino and have to say I'm not impressed especially considering the price.
So glad you ended with the grizzly dual dowelimg machine. Only $160 full price and is very similar to the Festool domino. Want to know how it works before I get one though and trust your reviews over pretty much anyone else. Thanks for the great alternative.
In Czech rep this is a very common jig but there you buy like a foot long bar so great for sheet work. Different locksmiths/machining places make their own versions of these....
I have the much older version of the Dowelmax and it's never let me down. Great video David & yes I would like to see a video about that Grizzly tool. 👍👍🔨🔨
Mostly commenting to feed the algorithm because I love your content. I did want to say that I read a bunch of reviews on the Grizzly dual doweller (as well as the Igooo spindle doweller which is the same thing, badged differently), and they are mediocre at best. Most folks are commenting that they are not square, accurate. There is a REALLY expensive dual doweller by a brand called Mafell, but it retails for higher than the domino, so....
I see they have stock for 2024 and placed my order. Thanks for this amazing review!
When you’re doing a video of that grizzly double dowler… can you also try out the triton dowling tool that looks exactly like it? My neighbor has one for sale for $50 and I’m thinking about it.
Yes please do a video on the doweling machines!! I’m also considering one🙏🏾😁
I had the jessem dowel kit with 1/4 , 3/8 , 1/2 doweling blocks and it's simular to this jig and very precise, but over the years I got spoiled with the domino and haven't touched the dowel jig in years , yes they are good for pro and homeowners but in real world furniture making the domino wins speed and accuracy wise , thank you for your amazing videos
Yes. Please review the Grizzly. I almost bought one a few years ago, but I couldn't find any video reviews. So I decided to save my money until I deserved to buy myself the Festool Domino someday (not yet). Triton also makes a power dowel jointer, but reviews weren't great.
Yep. I wanna see a video on that. I think the 3.6 star reviews on it probably speak for themselves, though. Looking forward to the Wen video as a budget guy.
A little disappointed we didn't hear the drill some holes; pound some pegs song, but I didn't really see much pounding so maybe you know best. 🎶 🤷♂️
I see you got the Wen 9" band saw. Let me know if you can get it to cut anything close to a straight line. I sold mine in a garage sale for $50.
This is kind of funny. The Wood Whisperer did a video showing this tool 13 years ago. A few other youtubers have found it finally and are now doing vids about it. Its crazy how long it can take for certain things to become popular. I love this tool. I own a CNC shop so I reversed engineered/ machined my own a few years ago.
There is a video circulating here on UA-cam where they do resistance testing, among several methods, including this dowelmax, and the domino Festool