An Unusual No Cooling Call
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video I visit an apartment complex where the tenants complained of no cooling. I was not expecting what I found. #hvac #hvacguy #hvaclife #hvactechnician #fieldpiece #hvactech #hvacinstall #airconditioner #acrepair
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Shame on the installer or course but... I also blame the property manager for not checking to make sure all was working and proper. You do a great job, take a vacation!
I KNOW..... right? All thru this I'm watching & saying to myself
_(that thing was NEVER Even 'installed' correctly)_ !!!
Installer was probably stiffed.
Agreed on that. You should go out to make sure that the installation was properly done. Not hover over the guy but ask him "Before you close this up, prove to me that it works."
This happens a lot. We moved across country got in at like 2am it was 96 inside and we had two youngsters so we had to emergency line. They gave us a key to an empty apt to sleep in for the night. Property management sucks everywhere.
"I decided not to film it cause there was lots of cussing"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Brother you are awesome. Lolololol no one is as honest and transparent as you. This is exactly what makes your channel by far the best hvac channel on UA-cam
Cussing means you care.
Sometimes lots of cussing is required😆🤣
Yup, .... I run a service biz too.
his whole attitude is WHY I subbed to this channel. I don't "Know" HVAC
but I figure HIS channel is gonna actually teach / show-me a few (new) things.
I DO have electrical construction in my background / education, (obviously this unit wasn't "installed")
_& this guy is the Real Deal_
I hear ya. Seem that I do that A LOT when working on my own cars. That said, I wish you would have filmed that ... would probably be your highest viewed video of all time!
I was called in to do spring start up on a 15 ton Carrier split. Owner said it always needed "a shot of gas" every spring so I did the obligatory leak check. I found a suction line coupling on the backside of the air handler that had NEVER been brazed. Customer said the unit has been in for ten plus years. I fixed the leak, evacuated and charged the unit and left it running perfectly. But that's not all. The building owner refused to pay the bill. He claimed he'd had the unit fixed by another contractor every spring and each of those visits cost him a quarter of what we were charging him. He claimed we were ripping him off. Sometimes it doesn't pay to do a good job.
probably should have shown him the issue/taken a picture and gotten approval for the permanent fix and if he still had an issue with the cost you could have walked away
That's impressive, to say the least, it was able to hold enough of a charge to only need topped off once a year.
If you have proof that you did the job, you may be able to put in a mechanics lien on the unit.
A coupling not braised? Like I said before, impressive it held a charge at all.
Put the leak back in it, button it up, and say have a nice day.
Sounds like the owner is an idiot and is going to get exactly what he deserves. Why would you want to have someone come back and do more work after they pulled that crap?
They will finish it for a case of Budweiser
To get your moneys worth that you actually paid
@@clayevans3421 they must be some of those high dollar jacklegs drinking Bud. The work looks more like the Natty Ice kind
Easy answer is big ego and no problem solving abilities.
What a giant pain in the ass! I hope you don't have trouble getting paid for your time. You handled it really well as always.
"I left a nitrogen charge in it" oh boy. Judging by his previous "work" I wouldn't be surprised if that "installer" doesn't just open the service valves and contaminate the whole charge. I also wouldn't be surprised if that "installer" is an uncle bob handyman. Why get so far into an install without even hooking up the thermostat wiring or brazing the suction line? I get that things happen, but this seems fishy to me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Sounds like he was doubting that he was getting paid and stopped.
I cannot imagine for 3 years no one complained the AC wasn't working.
I can, It's called Slumlord Realty.
@@DiverCTH Some people don't use AC
@@DiverCTH Not everyone uses AC
@@milktobo7418 In Georgia?
I've been living without AC all my life (59 years ) in Perth,Western Australia. Edit Perths summers are like Texas or New Mexico (Hot and dry )
nice to see an honest guy who couldve just dumped the system and let em call back in a month but took the extra effort to get the job done right
I am surprised you didn't pressure test _before_ pulling your initial vacuum. That install was a complete disaster.
All systems today have become over priced junk.
That's one of those new wireless units. Simple to install with no wire connections to worry about complete with the ultra environmentally friendly guaranteed not to harm the ozone layer refrigerants.
lmao
Refrigerants? What is this, the middle ages? The news one run on pixie farts and queef dust. Get with the times!
The refrigerants hook up to the blueteeth.
Looks like the slumlord had the previous 'installer' deported before he could finish.
Looks like someone tried to do an install and couldn't do it properly . Took the money and ran away . And you are here to save the day .
Love your stuff but why no nitrogen? When you brazed the dryer?!??
HVAC, plumbing, electrical trades doesn't matter... you always end up having to deal with someone else's mess they left behind...
Huge mistake putting the filter in the stand. It's open on 2 sides. Installers did that to mine. One of my coils was completely covered with kaka. I didn't know any better at the time until I went to install UV lights and saw what was going on. It looked like it was covered in black mold. I used 2 kinds of coil cleaner and properly put the filter in the air handler. Been about 1.5 years the coil is spotless and those UV lights work great BTW.
I’m thinking she never paid the first guy 😏
by cussing do you mean SWEARING? , eff this eff that etc? cuz none of us gives a crap, we wanna see you real, but its your show, and your call, .. and bro YOU GOT to wear you some GLOVES on them hot wires! me i dont do nuthin without gloves of SOME type, when on job tho i make sure to the extent possible they non conductive, cuz even if you arent part of the circuit you can still get a burn bro
Curtis you get tired? Lol! It's fun coming behind some knucklehead and fixing their problems isn't it? Good job solid troubleshooting like normal!
i work an apartment complex that has a crapload of 25yr old r22' systems and all of them were missing the drain plug in the secondary drain line tap of the drain pan. After a few decades, they started dripping out on the waterheaters, and apartments below. One air handler caught fire, from the water dripping from above!
I tell you what that's the story of modern days. You have a product from 2019 that's already messed up leaking and then you have air conditioners out there that are 30 plus years old still pumping going just fine. And it's the same with all kinds of products they make it so shittily so that it will break sooner so you spend more money and it's freaking sad. Personally I still have a refrigerator from the 1980s that has never messed up still cold good freezer and I know someone that bought a refrigerator in 2020 that's already broke.
The deal is homeowner wants it done for little to nothing and they hire someone that pulls crap like that. Around here some companies come and do an installation they collect the bug money and they won't come back when they have problems with equipment.
You are a hero! My brother recently accepted a position as a property maintenance manager, and he tells me stories that must be true, because you can't make this stuff up! He is correcting sooooo many mistakes made in the past 10 years from incompetent and untrained 'professionals' who 'installed' stuff without supervision from the previous manager. As he said, It's only a miracle that this place (a children's school) hasn't burned down or blown up. You are the skilled technicians that are keeping the world from complete chaos. Respect, and thank you.
They actually collected money for this install? Its like third world! Should be thrown in jail. Ridiculous.....
About 15 year ago, I was at a commercial split system on a rooftop of a veterinarian location. Within 10 minutes of troubleshooting I discovered the new condensing unit didn't have the service valves open. I immediately went down and asked a few questions. Was told that the installer had an accident during his installation and had to be hauled off to the ER. I prayed for him and asked if they called the company to have the system completed by that company. They couldn't get a hold of them so my company came out to finish. Turns out the original company got sued and had to shutdown their business. I got them up and running and a new client was under contract with the property management. My boss was thrilled as this was the beginning of a long and lucrative contract to do a lot more properties with them. Sometimes it just works out for the better. I have a feeling this call has a lot more chapter's of headaches for the property management company. Great work Curtis!
What were they sued for? Could save someone here bro.
@@nihcopower808 that company had fraud, theft and was caught stealing on camera in clients home's and businesses. It's extremely important to vet and KNOW how to keep your employees honest and ethical.
If thats a brand new outdoor unit thats not ever been connected, and an indoor unit from 2019. Whats the chances somebody condemed the outdoor unit because of a leak that was actually on the indoor unit?
What he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^100%
Looks like a rental so a landlord special.
Not sure I'd be all that interested in watching some line pulling gone bad. The swearing though? That I would have enjoyed! No doubt it was some m'f'ing beeatch of an install in that regard. I've watched you put your body in some God-awful spaces in attics, crawl spaces and the like with little if any whining. I'm not in the HVAC business, just a DIY'er who can appreciate the grit and professionalism I see in so many of your videos. I've learned a thing or two as well. Good deal!
Great video as always. That sure was a mess. Great work though. I’m a 22 year HVAC tech and love your work. There is not sugar coating anything. Was wondering what smart watch your wearing?
Apple series 7
Good job bud. It is awful tempting to cut corners sometimes IDE be lying to you if I said I never did. But I do a good job, most importantly I stand behind my work
What would you consider to be the life expectancy of an air conditioner in central Florida??? I bought my house 22 years ago and immediately had the air conditioning unit cleaned and serviced. I have had zero service done to my A\C unit. Should I call for service or leave it alone???
It takes alot of soot to affect a TXV, don't waste your time with nitrogen.
One time I needed a new condenser, and the original installer didn't pull a vacuum, or do a nitrogen flush. He installed the condenser within 40 minutes. The TXV had to be replaced within less than 6 months by another company. I enjoy watching your channel, and I'm a subscriber.
Thanks
I knew a company that would do that. One of the compressors to the unit they had sold a lady died after a year and when I swapped out the compressor it smelled like straight flush
I went on a no cool at an apartment complex office that had only been build 3 years. The manager said that another company had just been there two days before I came. When I checked it there was no refrigerant whatsoever. The leak was on the reversing valve. Ray Charles could have shown Stevie Wonder this. So they had me to check the rest of the apartments. Every last apartment you could grow mustard's on the evaporators and on the condensers. After 4 units they got mad at me and told they were going to get their regular company. ( the same company that kept coming back adding refrigerant ). I should have pulled every evaporator, but no to save them money , I took time and clean them while they was inside the apartments with with no rinse. So they decided to get the other company. Every last filter, condenser and evaporator was completely plugged. I ask the tenant's when was the last time the filter was was cleaned or changed. Tenants said they have never been changed. Some said they have been there since the apartment's opened. ( 3 years ). These were no your basic apartments. The other company have to drive 1 1/2 hr to get there. Their maintenance man comes to work in starched white shorts. The air handlers are tilted away from the drain.
That's crazy it only took 40 minutes I'm sorry man
@@Hvac-dude I was told the filter drier doesn't stop a thing without a vacuum, and nitrogen flush, and the TXV always goes bad without it being done.
You didn't run nitrogen when you brazed in that drier filter... you also didn't wrap wet towels around the service port area.... bro... big problem
that is a Lennox product so the first 2 numbers in serial are the factory and second 2 numbers are year so it is a 2020 unit
Electrician story for ya. Call for an outdoor HVAC unit with no power on the disconnect. Checked voltage, it's zero. None of the breakers in the panel are off, and they all read correct voltage. Something must be broken in the middle, right? Followed the wire all over the attic. No damage or junctions on the wire, but it does drop down above the panel. Went back down to double check, and surprise - that wire is NOT in the panel. I got permission to cut open the sheet rock above the panel, and sure enough the wire is coiled up and hidden. The current homeowner is the previous homeowner's son, and she had the system installed multiple years ago. The only thing I could think of, is that they quoted and sold the job, then _almost_ completed the work, without realizing there was no free breaker spaces in the panel. Or they knowingly scammed her, and she never complained.
I'd think someone made a costly mistake by not letting you repair that system.
Your still the best HVAC Technician I’ve seen. Even on your bad days.
thanks
You need a Vacation...you have been working too much...Ive seen all your videos.
I was abandoned by my contractor just before Christmas 2012. Made the mistake of paying an extra 10% of the contract value just before Christmas and then the workers didn't return after Christmas break and the contractor wouldn't return calls. No sign this was going to happen. After a few months of futility, I finally called an outside HVAC guy for the roof unit. Turned out the heater manifold hadn't been installed for the gas heater, and the electronics on the A/C had a "fried" component. The guy ordered the heater manifold and troubleshot the A/C to locate the bad part -- it was an IC with a power tab which had been torn off. The heater manifold was an overnight ship but the IC was on backorder 6 weeks. Given I had a full electronics bench, I asked him to pull the IC and we would see if I could fix it. It was no trouble to pull the part, resolder the torn off tab, and reinstall. The A/C and header both fired up and worked perfectly. The HVAC guy gave me a deep discount because if I hadn't replated and resoldered the IC and got the old one working, he would have had yet a third trip out to my place. His largess was totally unexpected; he was able to cancel the IC reorder with no penalty and passed that plus the costs of a second revisit back to me. 10 years onward, the unit still works flawlessly (fingers crossed).
I work on alot of these bryant systems. Mostly communicating interfaces. There pretty simple easy to work on and efficient if installed right. More problems with the communicating ones where the only thermostat you can use is super expensive.
We use ecobee sometimes and they are nice and expensive but I'm a simple guy. And I like the "normal " ones - off, heat, em heat, cool.
extremely difficult and lots of cussing, that sounds like every single job I take on. 🤬🤬🤯💩
Very professional. Man you have impressive patience.
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Looks like an installer that hit their end-of-day and never came back. I didn't hear any complaints about what they did, just what they never got to.
make a weld whitout nitro ... wow...good job...and no pressure test...
Man, just start working in good areas already! Leave crappy hoods for some crappy companies.
Are electrical whips for the low voltage code in your area? I like the idea but nobody does that around here.
I just had my carrier outside coil replaced that had developed a leak. It was less than 5 years old. The part took over 3 weeks to get in.
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You’re a better man than me, I would’ve walked away from that once I saw the condenser wasn’t wired in or valves open. These property management companies just need to stop being so damn cheap and get it done right the first time.
why wouldnt you just charge them what you nenesed to charge to make money and fix it properly
I’m sorry. Your job is to fix the problem and charge accordingly. What do you mean you’d walk away?
I’m not sure if I would have fixed it for them being that it’s definitely an installation call back. I’m forever mad at property maintenance people for allowing this kind of crap to happen, it’s literally the biggest reason people don’t trust us as a trade
Warranty is void! So thats just great
everybody in the comments is all uproarious about walking away but I bet the reason they didn't finish was because they weren't going to get paid, lol.
Dang..dude..im both enjoying your content and skills while learning a bit.
This def looks to be a job done by someone with apprenticeship experience trying to take on a full install by themselves.
I've only done 2 full installs and I would've known to do more than this lol. This is sad
You'd think even an apprentice would make sure the system was cooling before he left.
Oh boy. Nothing like being called to a job that someone else opened a can of worms AND left the lid off expecting you to find the worms.
Curtis take a week vacation you deserve it you look wore out
Carrier coils are leakers!! Especially their n coils!
I almost wanna do a ride along with you one day just to experience the shit you do on a daily basis. Here in Florida doing this for the last 17 yrs I can’t say I’ve seen as many horrible things as I’ve seen in your videos.
Where is he located? It’s obviously the south somewhere
@@AmB39 Georgia I believe.
Oh no …
I want to hear the cuzzing and swearing 🤬
"got your heat up and running. I'll follow up on the summer for the AC"
First time I seen you. Man you got a good set of guns on you. You must be in good shape. Hope you have good health. Bless you and keep the good videos coming.
Oh boy! You ran into it on this one. I like how it ended up but I really want to know how the heck it ended up in the condition it was when you found it. Did the original installer not release the freon?
Some time the easiest job are the hardest job for sure, great job as always.
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I really should try it,
I lied, there is some jobs I'll walk away from. If someone has me to come in right after another one has installed it, they are going to have to answer a bunch of questions first. They are going to have to tell me what happened. If someone else walked off, I want to know why. Number one, I don't want to be drug in the middle of a legal battle and get subpoena to court.
Curtis, I wonder if the installer had Covid brain. All joking aside, people who have had Covid often times have terrible memory/forgetfulness. Brain fog and the like
yup bidens had that 40 yrs jack com on
Uncle Joe 🙋🏿♂️installed this. I guarantee it!
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Nobody needs to go behind an installer like that. He left you holding the bag & could care less. Sounds like the home-owner warranty company's HVAC guy that replaced one of my compressors when I was out of town. He only changed the compressor & didn't do anything about the refrigerant charge. That is one of the reasons I am going to a HVAC class now. I just got my EPA Universal certificate and now I can fix my own units.
Yeah ,been there done that to, HVAC from the 80s. Take care from Texas.
I've seen some junk since I've been doing thins only since last October but this takes the cake
Btw I'm still learning so I subbed to help further my education. Good stuff and I love your bag- very nice and convenient 👍
personally i would have pressure checked after visual inspection, before cutting off the old dryer. i’d bet the “ installer” and owner have some kinda relationship. or the owner did that condenser set himself, or a none professional friend. it was valued off when you found it, fair chance those valves have been opened in the past too. original dryer looked old. was indoor same age as outdoor? what a shit show. at least it’s basic simple residential equipment with easy access and open return. simply as it gets. not sure how old this video is but was coil under manufacturer warranty? WTF did you blow out of there??? could have swapped it out it 20 mins. got to love following up shit installs. story of my life, gets real real fun on multi zone and vrf…..
just when ya think it can't get any worse, there it goes!!!
Don't think it is a wise idea to resolder that leak on a old looking dirty pipe, shouldn't you have cut/seperated cleaned it first so it looks like fresh pipe ?. When you tilded the camera down there you can see the pipe is not a flush fitting.
I sure hope you notified whoever is paying the bill before you did all this work ? As far as I’m concerned this is all warranty work that the installer should be coming back FOR FREE !
You run into the same crap I do almost daily
another happy landlord who called a friend of a friend of a friend who supposed knew what to do,stuck it together with tape and chewing gum,left after getting paid and never came back to finish the job
How often are you filling your nitrogen tanks? I am going thru a tank about ever other ac unit I work on?
At Least once a week
Surprising after all that he wanted the original installer back. Should have let you do the work and have the OG company pay the bill. Or a lien, or have the court make them reimburse the owner! I thought for sure the leak was going to be from those H/L copper vertical pressure taps outside. I fig the indoor coil would have been good since neither was used. Only thing working was the indoor fan motor🤣🤣Been doing HVAC for 20 yrs never seen that before. Sometimes you just gotta get up and leave! I had to do that with a flea infestation one time. They were EVERYWHERE, biting the 💩 out of me! Nope not doing fleas!
Good work! What an absolute PITA job.
Looks like that new filter slot you tried below the unit won't work. Later on in the video you showed the side view from 6ft back and the Filter was hanging down in the back 3 inches floating in the air. Just a heads up not being critical, Easy to miss. might just be the wrong size filter. This outdoor unit looks like some guy probably didn't get paid and bailed or they were just so amateur they gave up immediately
I love that Pan-doit Strap Holden the Torch carrier together :) My daddy always Said , If it works Don't "touch it '' Haha Got to Love them peeps from the south of the U.S.A. :P
Another aluminium door-stop. Who could've guessed.
looks like a rebadged Lennox unit. I have one from Ducane that looks identical, and Ducane is just Lennox.
You 'forgot' the nitrogen because you were 'tired,' the system will work and the customer has no idea.
Absolutely corrupt and wrong. Ignorance would be more forgivable.
They place a value on the suction line wonder why
I am surprised that you didn't walk away from that job.
Carriers have turned into crap.... Have had multiple new evaps leaking.... txv failing... etc. etc.
"I decided not to film it because there was lots of cussing." Probably one of the most relatable things i've heard lately. Thanks for your videos!
After a day like you had prior to this mess you handled things probably way better than I would have. The older I get it seems to take less to set me off lol
At 13... In all my years experience i have noted that the blowtorch burns better when the tank valve is OPEN!😲
With all the craziness among the customer base at large in recent years how are service companies not requiring full cash in advance for weird jobs like this? If the industry were on the same page as each other dishonest customers could not rip off the servicers. Let's be honest. You don't need those jobs. If you're good you're plenty busy with real stuff for real people.
This happened to me but what happened was my unit failed right before a massive blizzard was about to trap us for a week and the HVAC tech came out and got my emergency electric heat working just an hour before the snow started to fall saving us from having to leave and stay with friends. We had to call them back out in the spring to get the A/C straight.
wish you was in Jacksonville Florida your one of the honest ones
"Lovely! No wonder I couldn't pull a Vacuum."
Doncha' just hate playin' catchup to the clueless?
Sir, no disrespect, but I was saying to myself if you found the unit without it being finished, maybe it was for a reason and honestly before I even watched the whole video I was saying to myself before you put the filter dryer on why don’t you check to see if there were any leaks, especially in the lines, I don’t know if you got any history from the homeowner, but there was a reason why the technician stopped 🤷🏾♂️
You have to be careful of the landlords. They don’t always pay the installers. I would’ve been careful as soon as I got to that job to make sure I was gonna get paid on everything! I’ve seen too many contractors get screwed this way.
You're the guy I want fixing my AC.
Terrible hack job, I would not have trusted any brazed joints. Best of luck to property manager getting warranty on that coil 3 years later.
You looked like you were dragging Ass on that job, I have been that way before and knew it must have been hexed. Old Copper tubes just sitting in the weather are hard to solder from oxidation. I sure don't blame you for not working on that! Thanks for the Video 😃
if only they made sanding cloth/paper or wire brushes....
Sounded hot as hell too, lol
If the lines are so wet, why don't you nitrogen purge 2 or 3 times prior to vacuuming it out. Its cheaper the pump oil.