Omg man this is so true.. after my first squat session ever. I was wrecked. I took 2-3 days and was still sore, I didn't want to wait a whole week for what I thought I'd need for "recovery" but after the 2nd session all that soreness went away instantly. From that point on I felt stronger and got stronger.
@@GoalGuys As for your shoulder pain, it’s hard to tell from a quick video, but check in with your trainer for a form check. The wider your elbows the more weight put on your shoulders. If you tuck them, you will move more weight and have less weight in your shoulders.
2 months is a pretty short time frame for strength increases. Loosing fat, sure 2 months. But building strength to a reasonable change would take 6 months to a year.... at least. XD. Fun video though.
To build strength I follow this simple principle: T - Train tirelessly R - Ruthlessly go for PRs E - Energise your body with protein N - Never stop grinding
Great work Cam, this was a very ambitious challenge! Keep in mind Brendan has a 3 year head start on you with the physical goals he’s been setting for himself on this channel. You’ve done well to catch up to him the way you have 💪👍
Great video as always! Just a little note on your form. Take a look at your squat, your knees were bent inwards when they need to go outwards, ideally the knees should be in line with the feet. Also, you need to go deeper on squat, your thighs should be at least parallel to the floor. Don't hurt yourself and please stay safe!
Depth is more important if you are a competitive lifter. Not going fully to depth is actually fine for general training. For a novice lifter I'd rather them do less weight pause sets or only go slightly higher than competition depth when lifting heavy. As you pointed out his knee position was bad and they are going for near max lifts. Going to max, without a competent spotter (as pointed out in the video) and lack of experience on how to bail out of a bad squat is a recipe for injury. When he did fail the squat he let the bar pin him all the way to the ground instead of dumping it. Keeping that bar in a high rack position was real risky.
I love this video, and in particular that you invested the time to make a 60 day video instead of just a couple of weeks. The progress is awesome, and I love seeing more people get into lifting. Everyone's picking on the squat, but wanted to point out something on the deadlift. The bar is way away from your shins! You should set up closer to the bar, so that it's basically touching or almost touching your shins when you start. It should help hugely and reduce strain on the back.
Great job!! I was rooting for you, and I'm proud of your progress. There's something to be said about getting in your own head. Being able to control what we think can be powerful. I'm looking forward to the next video. Have a Happy New Year!!
They're very different exercises. Muscle ups use more of the back and have a high degree of technical movement you have to master to perform them properly. Being good at one doesn't mean you'll be good at the other.
Enjoyed this.. Hopefully you stick with it. The key to this stuff is just getting started and forcing yourself to show up, after that it becomes more of a habit and you'll show up at the gym without even planning to go there. ~7 years ago I forced myself to "just go" and I haven't looked back since, it became a life changing habit. Now, I will say that DOMS is normal after just starting a new workout, but I'd argue that if it continues to occur past the first week or two of the new regime, you should reduce the workload, because overtraining can hurt your progress. It's okay to be a little sore, but it's not good to be debilitatingly sore to the point where it hurts to do general everyday movements, that usually indicates overtraining.
This really underscores what everyone says about the dangers of comparisons. Cam made incredible progress and got way stronger but on comparison found himself disappointed despite the progress. Good on you for getting through it.
Yeah one hundred per cent it would have been wiser to focus on cam 60 days ago rather than his brother who had been working out for years. He did great.
I kind of love and hate this video because it was entertaining but IMO frames fitness as this all or nothing white knuckle thing you do for results whereas I think it’s more healthy and sustainable to think of it as a lifestyle thing you do for fun and character building.
always great entertainment with your videos but seriously, if Brendan focused on just one thing I think he would be a beast! Also, in your store, you should put out the workout plans you used with the links to the videos. I think it would be amazing!
I think that would cause an imbalance and you'd need to do the others anyway to support, but I hear you! These guys are beasts when it comes to these challenges.
Nobody needs a foam roller... if you're excessively sore it only means that you've gone too hard. Building muscle is about adaption, not tearing down your muscles.
I would love to see both of you trained by an actual power lifter. So many things could be tweaked to improve your lifts. Just your choices in shoes could improve how things moved. Ugh I haven't lifted much since my knee arthritis has flared up and still as a 48 year old woman I can outlift both of you guys... except for the pull ups...I suck at those. But seriously if you had the proper coaching and more than 60 days to train, you would surpass me easily. Nice to see regular guys give these lifts a chance without resorting to the typical dumb gym bro tropes. Most of the powerlifters I know are seriously smart about their workouts, and typically smart people in general. It's a fun sport.
Loved the video and you done a great a job. That being said I think you would both really benefit (specifically on the squat) from working with a pt or coach in person. Neither of you, have quite got the form down and a few small adjustments would make a world of difference. Keep up the good work.
I jumped from 250 (one rep max) to 315 (4 rep max) on bench in 60 days following a modified version of Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut to Size' plan. It was a good feeling. No one I knew was in the gym at the time, so no one cared lol but I was stoked.
when following a good strength program you should be able to put 60 pounds on your bench in those 60 days, 120 for squats, and 120 for deadlift. Progress will slow as you squeeze out your newbie gains of course. Starting strength is the king of novice strength programs rn. Try this out
Very cool , and motivating! I’d love to see a challenge where one of you does this type of training, the other one something different (eg, kettlebells only) and then you compare %gains in each program after 60 days
Awesome video as always. Some things I've noticed though: When weight training you definitely do not burn more than 200 kcal in an hour, even for a big guy. Any tracking by gym equipment (or watches, but those tend to be a bit better) should be cut in half. Moderate steady state cardio like going for walks burn the most because you can go for longer. Please for the love of god don't take more than 5g og creatine per day. You will never ever need 20g unless you want to make your bathroom visits more "explosive". Remember to always look at form. The smallest details matter (oh and remember to pause at the bottom of the bench like a solid 1-2 seconds. Happy to see that you've also gotten into fitness. Stay strong!💪
It’s not uncommon to start with 10-20 grams to start the creative loading and then 5 a day from then on. He only had him do a loading phase. After a month of daily doses you’d probably be at the same point, but there is a point to it.
@@michaellove456 I think the whole loading phase for creatine is one of the most discussed things there are... some people will kill you if you tell them you think it's unneccessary, some others will have the same opinion
@michaellove456 yeah loading gets you to saturation faster but not necessary. I did loading when I initially started taking it and holy shit not worth it. If I ever take a break from creatine I'll just do a few days of 10g then just chill at 5, I don't even think our bodies can really absorb the majority in the loading phase I mean isn't that what our body is telling us with all the liquid shit if you load?!
Cool, now simply follow a program with some kind of 4-5 day a week split and stick with it for 6 months to a year, you'll achieve an actual body transformation in that time frame.
Lift Hack: if you feel like you may lose a deadlift challenge against somebody, just make sure they go first, and then during your turn just step up and assume the sumo position and prepare to cheat your way to a W....ermm I mean Prepare to teach your friend a different, yet still technically legitimate way to deadlift your way to a new PR. Seriously though I want to point out that you didn't really lose to your buddy. In my eyes you tied him after attempting the bench press again. Did the rules ever say that you could thave a 2nd attempt once you've built a bit of confidence doing a deadlift PR? If he has a prob with it being a tie then maybe he should've specified rules in fine print before allowing the 2nd go...I'm just saying 🤷 I'm sure he won't mind calling it a tie though. You earned it and worked hard so good job bro
I enjoy your content. Both of your deadlifts can be drastically improved with better form. Your legs are too far apart, check out videos of power lifters and how close their legs are.
Good job on making improvements but there’s so many things you could have done better and much more safely if you had a coach in person. Online coaching has more drawbacks than what it can actually offer so if your goal is to really maximize progress while minimizing risk of injury I would consider in person training.
Yes you can and will get stronger in 60 days as a new lifter for sure. Like what you experienced. But years of consistency in lifting is the key. Not just 2 months
Nice gains for 60 days and of course Brendan is going to have the strength training advantage since hes been doing it for years. The deadlift seemed like he gave up to give his brother the win and to give the video a bit of a better ending. I doubt that Brendan cant lift that.
This man was benching near his body weight BEFORE training. Bruhhh you werent scrawny for most people it takes a little while to be able to do that. You werent scrawny just unaesthetic in the sense you didnt look like a greek god but had good ass strength
Yeah! I looked at a chart of standard strength based on age, height and weight, and all my lifts were beginner, except for my bench press which was a category up…so, kind of interesting!
If you squatted to depth I bet you would’ve been significantly stronger than Brendan. The lower your go the more general strength you build more specifically the amount of muscles you’re engaging
I cannot be the only one realizing that he let him win. I've seen too many of this guy's videos to accept that he just gave up the 225 deadlift so easily.
They need to learn how to gauge their effort better which comes through in person coaching and practice. They both could deadlift way more. They need someone physically present to coach them through some technical adjustments that will make their lifts more efficient and teach them how to push harder through heavier reps. They don't appear to have been taught how to belly brace either, which is THE factor to lifting heavy ass weight. I'd like to see a second video where they run it back with a knowledgeable trainer present.
The only thing that fixes the soreness from the first leg day is the second leg day.
I love leg day and I always skip abs it’s just so painful
This advice should be in the bible
@@benironside1264 😂🤣😂🤣
@@officialasim6772 I never train abs
Omg man this is so true.. after my first squat session ever. I was wrecked. I took 2-3 days and was still sore, I didn't want to wait a whole week for what I thought I'd need for "recovery" but after the 2nd session all that soreness went away instantly. From that point on I felt stronger and got stronger.
You guys are inspiring though that squat form made me die a little inside 😆
Yeah…watching it back hurt me too.
@@GoalGuys As for your shoulder pain, it’s hard to tell from a quick video, but check in with your trainer for a form check. The wider your elbows the more weight put on your shoulders. If you tuck them, you will move more weight and have less weight in your shoulders.
@@GoalGuys you need to work your rotator cuff and workout the romboids
"we couldnt go much higher" - truth
2 months is a pretty short time frame for strength increases.
Loosing fat, sure 2 months. But building strength to a reasonable change would take 6 months to a year.... at least. XD.
Fun video though.
To build strength I follow this simple principle:
T - Train tirelessly
R - Ruthlessly go for PRs
E - Energise your body with protein
N - Never stop grinding
Damn thats cringe
@@SkipperSkipS sorry I was heavily addicted to heroin when I made that post. I am now sober
I have a feeling Brendan let him win that last one haha
same
felt staged smh
These brothers are getting JACKED more and more every year
Might have to change their name to the Swole Guys
lmao
lol
Great work Cam, this was a very ambitious challenge! Keep in mind Brendan has a 3 year head start on you with the physical goals he’s been setting for himself on this channel. You’ve done well to catch up to him the way you have 💪👍
Great video as always! Just a little note on your form. Take a look at your squat, your knees were bent inwards when they need to go outwards, ideally the knees should be in line with the feet. Also, you need to go deeper on squat, your thighs should be at least parallel to the floor. Don't hurt yourself and please stay safe!
Depth is more important if you are a competitive lifter. Not going fully to depth is actually fine for general training. For a novice lifter I'd rather them do less weight pause sets or only go slightly higher than competition depth when lifting heavy. As you pointed out his knee position was bad and they are going for near max lifts. Going to max, without a competent spotter (as pointed out in the video) and lack of experience on how to bail out of a bad squat is a recipe for injury. When he did fail the squat he let the bar pin him all the way to the ground instead of dumping it. Keeping that bar in a high rack position was real risky.
The amount of work that you guys put into every single video is crazy. Huge props.
Thank you!
props to the production value you (goal) guys are getting lately. I feel like you've all come along. Cheers to another year of goals and challenges!
I love this video, and in particular that you invested the time to make a 60 day video instead of just a couple of weeks. The progress is awesome, and I love seeing more people get into lifting.
Everyone's picking on the squat, but wanted to point out something on the deadlift. The bar is way away from your shins! You should set up closer to the bar, so that it's basically touching or almost touching your shins when you start. It should help hugely and reduce strain on the back.
Great job!! I was rooting for you, and I'm proud of your progress. There's something to be said about getting in your own head. Being able to control what we think can be powerful. I'm looking forward to the next video. Have a Happy New Year!!
Yeah loved that he came back and believed in himself and did so well.
I just got back into fitness and did a leg day last week and I can feel your pain at 5:18. I laughed so hard cause I thought I was the only one
Weird how Brandon can do muscle ups but can’t Deadlift 225
he 100 percent could have gotten it
And with all his months of weightlifting and sprinting
With that workout, muscle imbalances are a sure thing.
They're very different exercises. Muscle ups use more of the back and have a high degree of technical movement you have to master to perform them properly. Being good at one doesn't mean you'll be good at the other.
I think he let Cam win that one. Any healthy male their age can deadlift 225 without training
Nice work grinding out that bench PR! Keep at it, bros
Thanks Zac!
I want to say the…cinematography has markedly improved in your videos. Specifically the jump rope video and this one. Great work guys!
This was great, dude. This was really great! You did awesome. I love seeing that kind of progress. You’ll be deadlifting 3 plates before you know it.
Enjoyed this.. Hopefully you stick with it. The key to this stuff is just getting started and forcing yourself to show up, after that it becomes more of a habit and you'll show up at the gym without even planning to go there. ~7 years ago I forced myself to "just go" and I haven't looked back since, it became a life changing habit.
Now, I will say that DOMS is normal after just starting a new workout, but I'd argue that if it continues to occur past the first week or two of the new regime, you should reduce the workload, because overtraining can hurt your progress. It's okay to be a little sore, but it's not good to be debilitatingly sore to the point where it hurts to do general everyday movements, that usually indicates overtraining.
squat depth left the chat
13:43 this is the most epic bench press
This really underscores what everyone says about the dangers of comparisons.
Cam made incredible progress and got way stronger but on comparison found himself disappointed despite the progress.
Good on you for getting through it.
Yeah one hundred per cent it would have been wiser to focus on cam 60 days ago rather than his brother who had been working out for years. He did great.
I kind of love and hate this video because it was entertaining but IMO frames fitness as this all or nothing white knuckle thing you do for results whereas I think it’s more healthy and sustainable to think of it as a lifestyle thing you do for fun and character building.
always great entertainment with your videos but seriously, if Brendan focused on just one thing I think he would be a beast! Also, in your store, you should put out the workout plans you used with the links to the videos. I think it would be amazing!
I think that would cause an imbalance and you'd need to do the others anyway to support, but I hear you! These guys are beasts when it comes to these challenges.
Awesome video! Been waiting for Cam to hit the gym since the channel started. Nice job, wohooo!!
For me, DOMS was improved with foam rolling and stretching at the end of the workout.
These videos are fun. Great job Cam with the improvement. I hope you keep up the lifting.
I love these videos whenever they come out. Keep making vids, thank you guys so much.
Wow! You got so much stronger in just 2 months! That's fantastic!
Nobody needs a foam roller... if you're excessively sore it only means that you've gone too hard.
Building muscle is about adaption, not tearing down your muscles.
As usual very entertaining content, really well edited. Congrats for the huge improvement in the gym!
Was so happy for Cam when he completed that deadlift
Always so inspired by both of you and the content this channel provides. Thank you for always creating such awesome videos.
Another fuckin banger. Lovin the improvements. Actually insane
Thanks mate!!
That's amazing jumps in numbers in just 60 days!
I would love to see both of you trained by an actual power lifter. So many things could be tweaked to improve your lifts. Just your choices in shoes could improve how things moved. Ugh I haven't lifted much since my knee arthritis has flared up and still as a 48 year old woman I can outlift both of you guys... except for the pull ups...I suck at those. But seriously if you had the proper coaching and more than 60 days to train, you would surpass me easily. Nice to see regular guys give these lifts a chance without resorting to the typical dumb gym bro tropes. Most of the powerlifters I know are seriously smart about their workouts, and typically smart people in general. It's a fun sport.
Being shredded does not mean being strong , it actually impedes strength. People at higher body fat can lift heavier.
very true. He seems to conflate the two
Bro you have GOT to get your elbows IN when doing bench presses. It'll feel weird but its proper form and will prevent injuries!!
This Max guy seems like a certified broscientist to me...
Solid progress
The most impressive thing is the timeframe, 2 months is impressive to get such an improvement
excellent progress in just 60 days! great job!
Great job Cam!
Fantastic video - love that I’ve found this channel !
Amazing teachings 🙏
Loved the video and you done a great a job. That being said I think you would both really benefit (specifically on the squat) from working with a pt or coach in person. Neither of you, have quite got the form down and a few small adjustments would make a world of difference. Keep up the good work.
I used to absolutely hate leg day. Now it’s something I look forward to.
Same! At the start of the challenge, I dreaded squat days, but after a while I really grew to enjoy them.
I feel like Brendon didn't really push himself for deadlift because he felt bad for you.
I jumped from 250 (one rep max) to 315 (4 rep max) on bench in 60 days following a modified version of Jim Stoppani's 'Shortcut to Size' plan. It was a good feeling. No one I knew was in the gym at the time, so no one cared lol but I was stoked.
when following a good strength program you should be able to put 60 pounds on your bench in those 60 days, 120 for squats, and 120 for deadlift. Progress will slow as you squeeze out your newbie gains of course. Starting strength is the king of novice strength programs rn. Try this out
Man, this is great content. You guys deservce more subs.
Most inspiring brother duo
Very cool , and motivating! I’d love to see a challenge where one of you does this type of training, the other one something different (eg, kettlebells only) and then you compare %gains in each program after 60 days
Awesome video as always. Some things I've noticed though:
When weight training you definitely do not burn more than 200 kcal in an hour, even for a big guy. Any tracking by gym equipment (or watches, but those tend to be a bit better) should be cut in half. Moderate steady state cardio like going for walks burn the most because you can go for longer.
Please for the love of god don't take more than 5g og creatine per day. You will never ever need 20g unless you want to make your bathroom visits more "explosive".
Remember to always look at form. The smallest details matter (oh and remember to pause at the bottom of the bench like a solid 1-2 seconds.
Happy to see that you've also gotten into fitness. Stay strong!💪
It’s not uncommon to start with 10-20 grams to start the creative loading and then 5 a day from then on. He only had him do a loading phase. After a month of daily doses you’d probably be at the same point, but there is a point to it.
@@michaellove456 I think the whole loading phase for creatine is one of the most discussed things there are... some people will kill you if you tell them you think it's unneccessary, some others will have the same opinion
@michaellove456 yeah loading gets you to saturation faster but not necessary. I did loading when I initially started taking it and holy shit not worth it. If I ever take a break from creatine I'll just do a few days of 10g then just chill at 5, I don't even think our bodies can really absorb the majority in the loading phase I mean isn't that what our body is telling us with all the liquid shit if you load?!
Epic video alway enjoying the content from you brothers! Greetings from Bulgaria.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Comparison is the thieve of joy - you have improved alot, you're already a winner!
Hahaha! Love that you’re wearing a Basketball New Brunswick shirt! Great job with the training!
Cool, now simply follow a program with some kind of 4-5 day a week split and stick with it for 6 months to a year, you'll achieve an actual body transformation in that time frame.
I already could tell he would win deadlift I can tell by how he train his deadlift and lower back is his strong points
Congrats on improving yourself bro
Lift Hack: if you feel like you may lose a deadlift challenge against somebody, just make sure they go first, and then during your turn just step up and assume the sumo position and prepare to cheat your way to a W....ermm I mean Prepare to teach your friend a different, yet still technically legitimate way to deadlift your way to a new PR.
Seriously though I want to point out that you didn't really lose to your buddy. In my eyes you tied him after attempting the bench press again. Did the rules ever say that you could thave a 2nd attempt once you've built a bit of confidence doing a deadlift PR? If he has a prob with it being a tie then maybe he should've specified rules in fine print before allowing the 2nd go...I'm just saying 🤷
I'm sure he won't mind calling it a tie though. You earned it and worked hard so good job bro
Way to go, man!
Thank you!
Keep going. Your bro just has a few years of progress on you.
'did you edit my script' hahaha
Max is selling some bro science haha
Dude, who cares what your brother is doing. Compare yourself with yourself! Track your own progress, you're doing great! 🎉
I enjoy your content. Both of your deadlifts can be drastically improved with better form. Your legs are too far apart, check out videos of power lifters and how close their legs are.
Everything was great ...... exept the squat depth.
Editing on this one is awesome
Good work, keep it up!
Keep going man
Good job on making improvements but there’s so many things you could have done better and much more safely if you had a coach in person. Online coaching has more drawbacks than what it can actually offer so if your goal is to really maximize progress while minimizing risk of injury I would consider in person training.
great vid!!
The depth on those squats...
Yes you can and will get stronger in 60 days as a new lifter for sure. Like what you experienced. But years of consistency in lifting is the key. Not just 2 months
Good job man
So strange how similar each lift is. My DL is like double my bench.
noti squad :D
At 3:09 I really thought he was gonna say *_"This is my trainer Leo Messi"_*
Nice gains for 60 days and of course Brendan is going to have the strength training advantage since hes been doing it for years. The deadlift seemed like he gave up to give his brother the win and to give the video a bit of a better ending. I doubt that Brendan cant lift that.
That is actually very decent progress for the bench press
Thank you!
@@GoalGuys keep training properly, and you will get past 225 lbs in no time
This man was benching near his body weight BEFORE training. Bruhhh you werent scrawny for most people it takes a little while to be able to do that. You werent scrawny just unaesthetic in the sense you didnt look like a greek god but had good ass strength
At least upper body. Lower lifts were lacking at the start.
Yeah! I looked at a chart of standard strength based on age, height and weight, and all my lifts were beginner, except for my bench press which was a category up…so, kind of interesting!
Thank you
Activated the good ol CNS with the final deadlift.
You don t decrease the goal instead Increase the effort! 🙌
Cringe
well done!
If you squatted to depth I bet you would’ve been significantly stronger than Brendan. The lower your go the more general strength you build more specifically the amount of muscles you’re engaging
Max is also my trainer! He’s the best!
Now imagine the progress from training for 365 days
Good brother
Is it just me that never knew you were brothers haha
You should test your vertical jump again. Im sure its gonna be even better now that your body is even stronger
That is huge progress you made there 👀
Interested to see where you both stand comparing relative strength, taking your body weight into account. Let us know!!
After you leave the gym on Leg Day put a handicap placard on your rear view mirror.
I cannot be the only one realizing that he let him win. I've seen too many of this guy's videos to accept that he just gave up the 225 deadlift so easily.
That squat form and depth was shocking ngl, but nice improvement
They need to learn how to gauge their effort better which comes through in person coaching and practice. They both could deadlift way more. They need someone physically present to coach them through some technical adjustments that will make their lifts more efficient and teach them how to push harder through heavier reps. They don't appear to have been taught how to belly brace either, which is THE factor to lifting heavy ass weight. I'd like to see a second video where they run it back with a knowledgeable trainer present.
I'd like to see a video on your diet over those 60 days
A body weight bench at basically untrained is very decent actually
15 seconds in and my guy is deading in runners
145lbs bench (65kg) on your first day is not fucking bad at all.