INSIDE POLYGAMY: THE MAN TO MAN PERSPECTIVE | w Steve Jones & 19Keys

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  • In this episode of the MAN TO MAN podcast, Steve Jones & 19keys delve into the topics of polygamy, the loss of integrity in hip-hop, and relationships. With humor and valuable information, they provide insights for leading a healthy lifestyle. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more content. Timestamps included for easy navigation.
    Connect with us on social media @Stevejonesafnf and @19_keys. #MANtoMAN #polygamy #hiphop #relationships

КОМЕНТАРІ • 123

  • @AmirTheGoat
    @AmirTheGoat Рік тому +30

    Polygamy has its challenges but overall it’s been my best relationship experience BY FAR. I’m grateful

  • @sendinglove5040
    @sendinglove5040 6 місяців тому +3

    19keys you are so smart and wise beyond your years I really love seeing black/african American men in this thought process it is so refreshing 47:26-50:36

  • @curvesandcosmos
    @curvesandcosmos Рік тому +52

    Most men cannot afford polygamy. As far as the traditional definition and structure of polygamy.

    • @MadDad.Z
      @MadDad.Z Рік тому +2

      I'd like to know your idea or theory of the traditional definition. This is a interesting conversation.

    • @curvesandcosmos
      @curvesandcosmos Рік тому +29

      @@MadDad.Z traditional poly was not about having multiple sexual partners. The man had to be able to financially care for every woman in the dynamic. Poly was about community/tribe building. So if children were involved, they also had to be taken care of. Also, poly requires HONESTY. There wasn’t no sneaking between women and half truth telling. Everyone involved had to consent. Also the women were in a sisterhood as well. Women were not competing, they worked together towards the overall goal of their home.

    • @ANuMe-NeterCs369
      @ANuMe-NeterCs369 Рік тому +5

      ​@@curvesandcosmos Ashe!!! thank you for that breakdown you get it!!! I agree with you 100%!!! God bless you Queen 👑🙏🏾🦋

    • @ShotByMagi
      @ShotByMagi Рік тому +3

      most women cant take care of themself mentally financially and spiritually

    • @theperfectescape5785
      @theperfectescape5785 Рік тому +2

      Facts

  • @Iamjackiebraden
    @Iamjackiebraden Рік тому +30

    I’m open to Polygamy… makes sense when the goal is to build an empire. Don’t think it works when the man just want to sex everything that moves.

  • @chakraenergylife
    @chakraenergylife 10 місяців тому +2

    The man has to be strong, strong enough to be everything for both women by NOT causing conflict and maintain both households separately, it is possible.

  • @sherijones449
    @sherijones449 Рік тому +4

    19 Keys so intelligent and our men going to have to elevate their mind❤️🙌🏾❤️

  • @1980msbaker
    @1980msbaker Рік тому +18

    19 Keys mind is too elevated to have this discussion on these topics with this individual. Overall, I appreciate the build. ❤👑

    • @KeyWithTheKeyz
      @KeyWithTheKeyz Рік тому

      Facts

    • @providetriggersforevolutio3748
      @providetriggersforevolutio3748 Рік тому

      My thoughts precisely. I thought this dude that he was in conversation with simply did not have the intellectual capacity or knowledge to broaden the above of the conversation.,

    • @sendinglove5040
      @sendinglove5040 6 місяців тому

      Girl…. Okay 🫣 I thought it was just me thinking this…. Whew a sigh of relief… you summed it up with this one statement… thank you for stating the obvious.

  • @Malikforever
    @Malikforever Рік тому +2

    Man to man is back!!

  • @mervcharles8365
    @mervcharles8365 4 місяці тому

    The opening monologue is spot on.

  • @jethrocoeiii1501
    @jethrocoeiii1501 Рік тому +2

    Triad Dynamic! 1 King, 2 Queens 💯

  • @ka_kellyalexis8
    @ka_kellyalexis8 4 місяці тому

    Protection and respect is key.

  • @LaKae444
    @LaKae444 Рік тому +3

    You touched on this briefly with Sway the other day. I see what you doing Keys 😊

  • @rickymayes7276
    @rickymayes7276 Рік тому

    I appreciate y'all brothers this a good video 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @kingshipt7506
    @kingshipt7506 Рік тому +2

    This was a very interesting conversation 💯

  • @Betterme4lf
    @Betterme4lf Рік тому +12

    Imagine a world of Matriarchal where only the strongest men served the women and weak die out. How much better would the world be how it was naturally designed before flipped upside down by patriarchy?

    • @ohr19167
      @ohr19167 Рік тому +4

      Talk about it, patriarchal rulership desecrated the original order of things

    • @monsterhunterunite12
      @monsterhunterunite12 Рік тому

      What examples of matriarchy have you researched to be successful long term?

    • @ohr19167
      @ohr19167 Рік тому +4

      @@monsterhunterunite12 read about the sybils, the were here hundreds and thousands of years before patriarchy, through patriarchy coming in and killing, raping, descrating there temples, stealing there documentations known as destiny scrolls, our mothers story was untold, furthermore is not more indigenous than matriarchy, with patriarchy came alot of wars, eco system issues, oppression, when mother was ruling peace was in place, the war with mother only came from patriarchy, animals were not eaten, war was had, ecosystem was healthy, government was on point, mother taught all this not patriarchy

    • @ohr19167
      @ohr19167 Рік тому

      @@monsterhunterunite12 u are always female before u become male, Chaldean priest even fought against patriarchy, study pre dynasty era u will uncover patriarchy existence timestamp is like a baby compared to mother, mother is patriarchy senior by a long shot, where do u think government, medicine, philosophy, economics, and etc come from not from patriarchy at all research, they got all that and more from mother and I'm just talking about 1 type society, u have Mami wata matriarchal society, and much more and these mothers were not just nettled in one place they were worldwide, highly functioning societies that ruled the world!

    • @mwhitethegod
      @mwhitethegod 8 місяців тому

      👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

  • @latoyahayes3381
    @latoyahayes3381 Рік тому +4

    Power and Peace Beloved's

  • @MzMichelle0624
    @MzMichelle0624 Рік тому

    ✨️Okay lol...interesting topics all the way to the end lol 100 percent though ✨️

  • @cxrdogoteye811
    @cxrdogoteye811 Рік тому

    Great conversation

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    Therefore it's up to us to to create the unthinkable and create the jobs and careers

  • @mee2uel354
    @mee2uel354 Рік тому

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY 19 KEYS! AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TAURUSES!

  • @Malikforever
    @Malikforever Рік тому +1

    That create/make piece was interesting it provoked a thought in my mind. But I’m struggling with it bc create/make are synonyms, but I do understand what keys tryna say.

  • @debbieruedas28
    @debbieruedas28 Рік тому +1

    pure relationship is important

  • @faithwins6214
    @faithwins6214 6 місяців тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @KehillahHamashiach
    @KehillahHamashiach 8 місяців тому +2

    If you discuss polygamy you must discuss woman having multiple men. Polygyny is where upon the men only may have multiple spouses.

  • @faithwins6214
    @faithwins6214 6 місяців тому

    💯💯💯💯

  • @savvykid4062
    @savvykid4062 Рік тому +1

    Some Real Mane Right Therr.

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +3

    Even the people who are gay in the community cannot afford more than one spouse

  • @timestampingarmy
    @timestampingarmy Рік тому +1

    Time to get back to true tech magic

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    The key to success lyes within each community they claim it's something you have to file to get money for a trust and affidavit then when you accomplish this goal they don't want to pay in the courts

  • @ohr19167
    @ohr19167 Рік тому +7

    People say women can't have more than one man but that polygamy started after patriarchal rulership, most of the wives were to be taken care of not for intercourse especially post war, now we have allowed ourselves to think that polygamy is indigenous to men, wrong during matriarchal societies women had more than one husband and after gender wars now the roles have changed and we accepted this concept, in my opinion it's highly unsanitary physically

    • @redhoodfgc817
      @redhoodfgc817 10 місяців тому

      And polygamy should stay indigenous to men in todays world. Really because men are required to have a certain amount of power to have access to it which only 1% is capable of. Women wishing to indulge in it either have romantic issues or simply want to indulge in the sexual liberation women have been given. There is no business to get done or higher purpose to work towards in this age as it was back then to justify our women to be servicing multiple men.

  • @noeliadiaz2037
    @noeliadiaz2037 Рік тому +4

    What about women having more than 1 husband?

  • @Elevated_intelligence
    @Elevated_intelligence Рік тому +1

    I been friend zoned a few times but for some reason the girls always hooked me up with one of their friends lol.

  • @whome87hathorn85
    @whome87hathorn85 Рік тому +1

    They have to be able to take care of us all. EQUALLY

  • @orlandosumlin
    @orlandosumlin Рік тому

    Who is the rapper they mention at 102:09?

  • @allisandraward6992
    @allisandraward6992 Рік тому +4

    Yo 19. Let’s add a woman’s perspective to this conversation

  • @theprofit7396
    @theprofit7396 Рік тому +1

    Lol 19 keys said nawl dat don't even make sense

  • @jackeespeaks2763
    @jackeespeaks2763 Рік тому +1

    Polyamory and polygamy should not be used interchangeably. There is a difference in meaning for each term.

  • @mysticrose-ngokady-bope9619
    @mysticrose-ngokady-bope9619 Рік тому +1

    High Level Conversation Part One ✨:
    Carefulness - Trigger-Warning❗️
    Open Statements:
    - Practicing polygamy today is illegal. If it would be legal many men would go towards that.
    - Women would be psychological more open to polygamy/change their mind to this certain lifestyle/relationship, if it would be legal in the society. -> Comparison to Gay-Marriage (it became legal now people accepting this form of merger)
    - The qualifications of having multiple women should be questioned. Everybody is capable of having several Baby-Mothers, therefore many children. The quality to protect, provide and produce for these women is a challenge, that should be taken in consideration, if you consider yourself as a man of honor.
    - In general we are living in a society with a false concept of mind in relation to relationship (immature + over romanticized idealism).
    - Marriage should be a Rational-Conquest Not a Love-Conquest.
    - Marriage is a contract therefore certain obligations must be met to be successful for the long-run. Similar establishing a successful business (An agreement with the state)
    - 10:25 Polygamy the dream of every young man. (Honest-Personal-Opinion)
    - A 50-50-Relationship leads to a wrong foundation. Men and Women has to be aware of their role in a divine committed union. As a woman and as a man, you have to give a 100 percent. (Balance of masculine and feminine energy) A woman can never replace a man! (Vice-Versa)
    - Respect is the most important aspect in a relationship for a man with honor. -> Protection from verbal abuse!!
    - The Mysticism of being friendzoned, open/closed relationships and polygamy -> The Differences between man and woman acting on it. -> Ego-Tripping? Sexual freedom of a woman only an Utopie which leads to self-destructive behavior.
    - The Good Guy vs. The Bad Guy. What do women want? -> Strength
    Different reasons for practicing polygamy:
    1. Sexual Reasons 3:53 (Honest-Personal-Opinion -> “in this current phase of life”)
    2. A sign of wealth and status (certain areas)
    3. Practiced by the Elite (maintain a position of power -> for example keep the royal bloodline closed -> keep the heritage in their families)
    Economical-Elite, Social-Elite (celebrities, academics…), Political-Elite, Military-Elite considered as a “Force of Power”.
    Fresh crossing to the topic! (It made the conversation lively, in general the conversation was really cool 😊)
    1:29 Michael Myers Vibes 😄
    1:56 The Details 😊
    Thank you for sharing. Exciting topic❗️
    Something I have to talk about with my brothers.😁🤔
    Where we are coming from „The Kings“ were/are allowed having several women. Not only to secure the royal descendants or demonstrating their power.
    It was also some sort of security for the womenfolk. The women have a certain status and they are untouched. Even today the direct lineage (women) have to be treated in a respectful way. And if the woman of the royal bloodline was/is able to keep their „honor“ this is a sign of good fortune. 😊
    Much Love and Light. 🌸

  • @QuietStorm2024
    @QuietStorm2024 Рік тому +3

    On the one hand i feel like 19Keys is too important to be sitting with whoever this young man is (who is cleary under the influence of something) but on the otherhand i appreciate that he doesn’t feel so far above any man to sit down with and exchange ideas. But if "some folks cant go" were a person, this young man would be the ambassador.🙃

    • @stevejonesafnf8422
      @stevejonesafnf8422 Рік тому

      Ha ha

    • @InHisGrace1111
      @InHisGrace1111 Рік тому +6

      That is his BEST FRIEND! They grew up together. They are Brothers! Please do not get it twisted. He can speak, discuss, and exchange ideas with the best of them. ALL DAY. He is just as important as Keys. Second of all, he is not under the influence of anything. He's just a laid back kind of guy. He ain't wit all the hoopla like a lot of you "look-at-me!", "look-at-me!" type fools out here. The brother is talented! Have you seen his art work?? This Brother is amazing. You definitely came for the wrong one. You all up on Keys' gherkin, trying to impress him by putting another man down. That is wack!

    • @QuietStorm2024
      @QuietStorm2024 Рік тому

      @@InHisGrace1111 😂😂😂 ok you right. ✌🏾

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +3

    Master farrad Ali Muhammad said if you marry a woman and want a polygamy situations expect the same thing

  • @mysticrose-ngokady-bope9619
    @mysticrose-ngokady-bope9619 Рік тому +1

    High Level Conversation Part Two ✨:
    Carefulness - Trigger-Warning❗️
    Book: “The Art of Seduction” (,,Die 24 Gesetze der Verführung“) by Robert Greene
    - Different Archetypes of a Seducer!
    -> The Siren
    -> The Womanizer
    -> The Charmer
    -> Stars
    -> The Anti-Seducer…
    - The Victims of Seduction! (18 Types)
    -> Choose the Right Sacrifice
    -> Pretend to be Safe
    -> Present Yourself as a Desirable Person
    -> Hold the Tension
    -> Use the Demonic Power of Words…
    HIP HOP/INTEGRITY:
    - Hip Hop as a rebellion/an expression against the system
    - Content of Music/Hip Hop has changed in the period of time. (No longer breaking down the system, more about fighting each other -> The Construct of Masculine and Feminine has been broken down)
    Side Note - Know Thyself Music: Wu-Tang Clan, KRS-One…
    - Hip Hop sometimes operates as a mirror (Perception of a certain group of society influenced by the system of Hip Hop that allows promoting a certain agenda)
    - True Hip Hop is about Being Real = Integrity -> Expressing the Experience
    - Hip Hop as pure Entertainment in the Music Industry vs. Hip Hop as a Tool for Hope (changing your circumstances for a better outcome)
    Book: “The Psychological Covert War On Hip Hop”
    by Professor Griff
    Side Note - Value Music: Nipsey Hussle
    -> Questioning the Value of Music (Music is Information)
    -> Ask Yourself where you want to put your Mind on, while listening 🎧 to music. Music holds a certain vibration.
    - Honest-Personal-Opinion: 49:15 Afrobeats are more in tune with the Frequency of Gods/Black Spirits in Nature (joyful, happy)
    Citation: “Black American Music is the Soundtrack to the Black American Experience” 🔥 🔑
    Up Coming Next: High Level Conversation Part Three ✨:
    Personal Insights about Emotional Intelligence!
    Much Love and Light 🌸 😊

  • @Albex26D
    @Albex26D Рік тому +3

    I wish u had the audio louder. Also it’s a lil echo going but the next one will be back to top level production

  • @teetee-nm1sv
    @teetee-nm1sv Рік тому +3

    19 KEYS SHOULD HAVE KEVIN WESLEY ON HIS SHOW TO TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC A LITTLE MORE FURTHER.

  • @queenrr2342
    @queenrr2342 Рік тому

    Happy Eartstrong God✌💖

  • @faithwins6214
    @faithwins6214 6 місяців тому

    Peace to the Gods 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому

    Mos def said this cream crop of planet

  • @MyJourney1205
    @MyJourney1205 2 місяці тому +1

    I believe polygamy only benefits when everyone have the same goals being with someone off an act of lust is insulting .Especially if you and yo spouse are working and you just introduce her to a shorty no brains now a woman just taking from her their vision and definitely funds😑😑😑😑
    And a song like "Too Close by Next"

  • @thedivineizzy1194
    @thedivineizzy1194 Рік тому +1

    🧘🏽‍♂️🏁

  • @JustTah
    @JustTah Рік тому +3

    What should the physiological makeup be for a woman to accept polygamy?

    • @ohr19167
      @ohr19167 Рік тому +3

      If women can do it too

  • @jiveturkey1491
    @jiveturkey1491 Рік тому

    👍

  • @ifashi4
    @ifashi4 Рік тому +5

    When we going to discuss there only one sun & one moon on Earth..as above so belowwww. !?

  • @IzReal_Rzn
    @IzReal_Rzn Рік тому +2

    Great women finish last as well (those that haven’t discovered their Goddess energies dark or light )

  • @jermaineyoung7404
    @jermaineyoung7404 Рік тому +4

    I can feel the disrespect keys was feeling great composure and interview

    • @aliaswizard6963
      @aliaswizard6963 Рік тому

      Yeah why did he have this clown on here with him?

  • @KingQuayus
    @KingQuayus Рік тому

    I want to do music with JackHella and Anpu . I want to chop game with Keys & Steve . TapN yg’s

  • @KeyWithTheKeyz
    @KeyWithTheKeyz Рік тому +3

    He aint ready to chop it up with Keys yet

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +4

    If men can't afford 1 wife why get a million

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +3

    They say it creates wealth however if y'all can't create wealth for yourself how y'all going to complete it for some one else

  • @speakstrongfire
    @speakstrongfire 10 місяців тому

    19 Keys the invite is open

  • @speakstrongfire
    @speakstrongfire 10 місяців тому

    yep yep

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    However if spouse is utilize you and doesn't want to build and spread disease they ain't the one for you

  • @OfficialMNIB
    @OfficialMNIB Рік тому +2

    - 20:14+ . . . 😅 😂 🤣 😹

  • @kingkumul9386
    @kingkumul9386 Рік тому

    All Praises to the most high
    How are you doing king I just had a question to you Consider yourself a Moor or a black man?

  • @JUSTYNIRL
    @JUSTYNIRL Рік тому +1

    1:26 nawh that ain’t make no sense 😓

  • @sheriece05ify
    @sheriece05ify Рік тому +2

    I love listening to 19 keys don’t get me wrong, but OVERALL, I don’t see how he supports Elijah Muhammad over Malcolm X. That have always raised a red flag for me. Plus, how he doesn’t even want to build his own family is suspect to me as well. I swear it’s always something with our ppl. Just research on EVERYBODY you’re studying. I’m telling you it’s almost always you will find something.

  • @KingQuayus
    @KingQuayus Рік тому

    NO AI BARS !

  • @BooNicole-
    @BooNicole- 5 місяців тому +1

    You guys are hilarious but me I love the thought of being poly or polygamy why because like you said some people men or women can’t and will not commit to one being their beliefs are that they can love multiple people at a time and I would agree no I’m not saying I want to be in a relationship where there is. MMW BUT I DEFINITELY LOVE TO REWARD MY KING WITH ANOTHER QUEEN LIKE MY SELF THAT DOESNT LACK MORALS THAT CHERISH HIS BEING AND AND IS VERY POSITIVE AND SEEKS TO BE BETTER NOT JUST AS ONE BUT AS A WHOLE. Like I’m married to a women at the moment and we found us a guy been with him for four years now and at one point we felt like he deserved it but in all actuality his means and being and his energy is so off he doesn’t value women he had to educated entrepreneurs my wife is ex navy my I’m in college starting a business wanting to start a non profit even I love every thing about a beautiful women who can go through the storm and still be successful at best you know I believe we all individually control what happens in our universe and I mean our bubble so why settle right ❤ so happy to have discovered you I swear because you would be the perfect man for me and my wife and I know that the universe sent me to you because I need to keep the faith and remove dead weight. This man we got he doesn’t value himself if he did he wouldn’t be unfaithful to the ones who never cheated him of anything I mean we held him down in the bad times told we got this just work on his self and still he does what he wants and with out reason. Polygamy to me men FOUNDATION EMPIRE STABILITY STRUCTURE KNOWLEDGE ONE MAN WITH ALL OF THIS HE DEFINITELY DESERVES TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF RELtionship cause with all of this he can remain humble for his queens keeping them smiling and laughing happy feeling appreciated because he has learn the meaning and values of lifw

  • @nedgyjeanbaptiste1290
    @nedgyjeanbaptiste1290 Рік тому +1

    Dope super dope topics vibe the flow everything nice but the sound tho not the best

    • @providetriggersforevolutio3748
      @providetriggersforevolutio3748 Рік тому

      Especially with his guest not being a fully articulated man.. 19 keys could have had this conversation with someone wi is more elevated intellectually.

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    Noble drew Ali said come all asiastics

  • @ohr19167
    @ohr19167 Рік тому +1

    If women can do it too then it's fair

    • @sherijones449
      @sherijones449 Рік тому

      Their really ain’t 1 decent man to be caught❤️🙌🏾If men with financial means find beautiful women he can be monogamous with and build its better🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @ohr19167
    @ohr19167 Рік тому +1

    It's unsanitary

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    I have trillion of ideas to identify and help the economy now it's in the asiastics favor what will y'all achieve?

  • @outof_mymind
    @outof_mymind Рік тому +1

    Polygyny... Not Polygamy

  • @ahbieyashasourcide897
    @ahbieyashasourcide897 6 місяців тому +1

    This is about 18 to 30 year old girls. Y’all gettin set up for failure.

  • @teetee-nm1sv
    @teetee-nm1sv Рік тому +1

    NOW A DAYS IF YOU HAVE AN OPEN RELATIONSHIP THAT MEANS YOU GUYS ARE 304'S

  • @abdulphillippeelali61809
    @abdulphillippeelali61809 Рік тому +1

    Woman claim they want and need the total package however when it's delivered in full they still complain

    • @ohr19167
      @ohr19167 Рік тому +1

      What women are u attracting with that concept

    • @enyonamagbemadzo8684
      @enyonamagbemadzo8684 10 місяців тому

      You’re not the full package so ofc women will complain. Sit down Incel 😂

  • @noeliadiaz2037
    @noeliadiaz2037 Рік тому

    polyandry?

  • @betterthisray
    @betterthisray Рік тому +1

    I always love how these men create their safe spaces. I love the angels I mean angles! It’s so nice to see how Godly men do their “man caves” and the higher level for them deserves to be earned like knowing when the the time is… without numbers. ♟️ Earning this type of content on UA-cam takes courage to keep up with and infinite internal peace which is the best health 😊