Thank you for profiling these genuinely talented gentlemen! You hear the love in their voices, see their passion in the eyes & body language, & watch their delicate mannerisms as they work! They are very proud of their skill set & their cultural history! This was a fantastic documentary video!! Thank you so much for creating & sharing this wonderful history!!
I liked the part where she said "they pour water on the tiles to dry them". How moronic can you be? They wrote that, printed it, recorded it, and posted it. So many people had to greenlight something so insanely stupid. The word is "cure", not "dry"...
We call these Baldoza in our country the Philippines, some call these Machuca tiles, very few makes these these days, an almost lost art, hope more people use these timeless materials, my grandpa also used to make these for his home and to sell in his hardware store.
The tiles look so majestic and beautiful.These are the kind of art that should flourish for the upcoming years.It's not even about the design anymore,it's about keeping the tradition alive
I can understand the value of cement tiles and the artistry behind it, but I swear that lady is probably what Google Images spits out when you search for pretentious...
Not gonna lie I couldn’t focus on anything she said, all I could think of was driving 3 different cars through each gap of her teeth. Looking like Micheal Strahan out here
I was sad when I saw the big company selling their tiles and knew that somewhere somebody was trying sell their hard work but this giant was having much higher succes thanks to their aggressive marketing.
In theory, you can approach these artisans if you have the resources and start a business that caters to affluent customers and take your own piece of the pie. The only thing that would have to be done is aggressive marketing and creating an image. It should be possible. After all, one of the core values of the luxury market is limited availability, craftsmanship, challenging production that creates prestige and individuality, and history.
The pattern on good quality cement tiles last much longer than on ceramic tiles. Although the later can have very sophisticated design, once the enamel layer wear off, so does the thin pained-on pattern just right beneath. It will take much, much longer for cement tile to expose its cement backing.
Personally, as a design-builder in the world of natural and traditional vernacular architecture, I think it is both disingenuous and inaccurate to call these "cement tiles" as much is being confused in the translation. These, when traditionally made, are not OPC industrial materials but the ancient "roman cement" type mixes which of course takes more understanding and craft. This is a sustainable product and not the massively polluting material the modern OPC cements are that fall apart around us all...These traditional tiles are wonderful...!!!
Most people spend their decades of saving and money just to buy a house. And now you are telling them to use tiles that are maybe 10x more expensive to renovate their house because it is more environmentally friendly or because of artisan value. Nah.
Most people had to save for decades due to a shit economy, not the other way dude, as is we have a shitty president that screwed the economy along with dumbass people that saw fit to let this slide too.
@@leolow2057 First, I'm not telling anyone to do anything...Each person has to make their ethical decisions about how they live. These tiles would not typically be used in architecture, and projects I consult on, …or…they would be made locally by members of the project or related craftspeople. I love “hand made” materials, and do not find them the “most expensive” at all so disagree with what this video is projecting on that aspect as well. I generally think, based on experience and knowledge, there are a number of flaws in this video…but that does not negate that hand made tiles of natural cement or clay are not wonderful…
Roman cement is not more advanced or environmentally friendly. The Romans left an indelible layer of ash and lead across the world with their economic activity. And any surviving roman cement is just selection bias at its finest.
I'm using this tiles and my grandparents has this tiles in their home more than 50 years. When it get dull, they will polish it and it's like new tiles again. The bolder the color, it's more expensive. I paid about $26.5 per square meter. Custom color.
The tiles with design imperfections get destroyed? Why not sell them in mixed sets (every tile different is also an aesthetic some people go for) for reduced price? As I understand it, the most time consuming part (on the worker's side) already went into it at the very beginning, so just letting them dry and selling them, even for lower price, would mean that the work put into it is at least somewhat profitable.
The company I ordered my tiles sell those reject tiles. The price is lower and really, when put together like mix pattern, no body gonna know its reject.
They could also be used in areas where the tile needed to be cut anyway, and there are ALWAYS going to be such areas. It just involves a little bit of planning in keeping them apart.
In South India it is called "Athangudi tiles". It is cottage industry in Chettinadu in Tamil Nadu. Chettinadu Mansions got its long lasting beauty from these tiles
The designer tiles are so lame compared to the real thing. I grew up in the Mediterranean where these tiles were everywhere. They're bold, not minimalist and pretentious.
It seems to make sense that these would be more expensive, they are hand maid. (Though I am positive that you can make the same thing using machinery). I just hope the guys who actually make it get the profit rather than some fancy design studio or a supplier claiming all the profits.
Is there any way to get the contact of Sei in Egypt? Or where is his shop? It’s the second video I see of him in this channel without the contact information.
Thing is, if a sizable market develops for these you can be assured that someone will automate the process in a location closer to the market. Cement tiles are heavy and shipping costs are a sizable portion of the cost to the end user.
Cement tiles are expertly crafted. They can never be replicated. But who am I to add more information. I know nothing else about the whole manufacturing process behind all this.
No... they can make cars mostly automatically and you think simple tiles can't be made? The reason these are not mass factory produced is likely that western demand is too low (if it even exists at all) combined with them likely not being as profitable to make.
No Brasil, essas peças são chamadas de ladrilho (ou piso) hidráulico. São muito tradicionais e são encontrados em quase todas as construções antigas, desde o século XVII, época do Brasil colônia, e do período Imperial também. Temos muitas fabricas aqui. É um trabalho muito bonito.
The vast majority of the production is in manual labor. What is the actual percentage cost of the raw materials and what are their margins in which specific markets? The amount of cement used per tile is quite small, yet large construction projects continue using thousands of tons. More useful detail is required to understand the actual market reality.
Sécher au soleil n’est pas une bonne solution. Une cure humide de trois semaines à un mois serait préférable. La prise du mortier mortier de ciment lui donne sa résistance qui s’accroît avec le temps de prise même si cette montée en résistance est plus important en début de prise. Mais cette prise s’arrête dès que le mortier est sec, d’où l’importance du temps de cure . La cure peut prendre deux formes essentielles : Humide, par arrosage régulier suffisant ou sèche, en protégeant le mortier avec une paroi étanche . On peut également utiliser des additifs plastifiants qui amélioreront l’étanchéité des mortiers qui permettent aussi de raccourcir la cure par conservation plus longue de l’humidité à l’intérieur du mortier. Sinon, excellente et très intéressante vidéo sur le sujet ! Très complète ( petit manque sur la fabrication des moules et des modèles métalliques de moulage)
Interesting! I have the Lumix/Leica 8-18. I love it, but should use it more. Funny, I'm pretty sure I can see my condo complex in that wide-angle shot of Vegas looking north @ 04:35. Wonder how often that happens :-)
In Morocco, artisans either works in Fez or Marrakesh. The endless in Cairo, Egypt. Those are Islamic geometric traditional designs. Every Moroccan city gates has these titles design. Designer Yves St Lauren was inspired by their art and he had a home in Morocco, which now a museum in Marrakesh.
I was only seeing shorts of these tiles and didn't get, how they were done. I was hurting my brain over it. Man, these a just inverted, and you just see the backside during the production process ...this is the end of a headache.
It should be relatively easy to automate portions of this process- a machine with nozzles can fill exact amounts, sprinkle cement, press it, etc. There’s no reason they couldn’t be even cheaper than ceramic- especially as they don’t have to be fired. (And yes, I realize that would reduce the handmade aspect of it, but if you wanted to, production could be upped).
This tiles are normal all over the country in morocco but the orginal zalige are hard only morocco do it and the material are moroccan 100% city of fas & some era near agadir city
The art of making these tiles takes amazing skill, and if the tiles cost 10 times more than "some subway tiles", it's probably because anything of lasting quality and beauty costs more. These men are skilled craftsmen, as shown in the video, and if you want this kind of quality you have to pay for it. They have to pay more now for the products to make the tiles. Why not do a focus piece on the rising cost of cement? The tiles are still cheap at even $3.00 a tile. Average cost of glazed tile is $3 - $15, porcelain $3 - $40 per square foot (*thisoldhouse) so these are actually still a bargain, and will last far longer.
Israel's war on Palestine has also contributed to expenses increasing given the increases in shipping and insurance in the Mid East region. Do not forget this omission.
Every Moroccan city gates are decorated with these tiles, i love the blue or green color way. That so called interior designer 's terracotta version is ugly.
anyone that has the passions he does for his craft, is something id like because you know he put his heart and soul into it.
and thats the differnece between a career and a job
My childhood home had these tiles. I got the best memories laying down on them in the hot summer days!
Same. 30 something years and the tiles still there.
Thank you for profiling these genuinely talented gentlemen! You hear the love in their voices, see their passion in the eyes & body language, & watch their delicate mannerisms as they work! They are very proud of their skill set & their cultural history! This was a fantastic documentary video!! Thank you so much for creating & sharing this wonderful history!!
Thanks for watching!
I'm proud of you dad❤😊
الله يحفظلك الوالد ،وصيه ضروري يحط ديك (صنع بالمغرب ) وراء كل زليجة ، راه ولاو بعض الدول تقرصن الصنعة المغربية .
The corporations that produce the raw products are making record profits - it’s not a “supply chain” problem, it’s greed.
sounds like monopoly, no competition?
Q is
Cry me a river
@@ShawnAR25 we're all drowning in the same river.
No no. Don't look at the man behind the curtain. Don't question the economic model. Just consume
this episode was so beautiful to watch
Thanks for watching!
I liked the part where she said "they pour water on the tiles to dry them". How moronic can you be? They wrote that, printed it, recorded it, and posted it. So many people had to greenlight something so insanely stupid. The word is "cure", not "dry"...
We call these Baldoza in our country the Philippines, some call these Machuca tiles, very few makes these these days, an almost lost art, hope more people use these timeless materials, my grandpa also used to make these for his home and to sell in his hardware store.
Hello . I want it pls
The tiles look so majestic and beautiful.These are the kind of art that should flourish for the upcoming years.It's not even about the design anymore,it's about keeping the tradition alive
I was lucky enough to go to a shop that made these in Merida, Mexico. Absolutely amazing!
I’m trying to convince my mom to get zellige or cement tiles for our kitchen backsplash, they make me so happy to look at!
this was excellent. thanks ☺️
I just watching these skilled artisans at work, these tiles look amazing.
I can understand the value of cement tiles and the artistry behind it, but I swear that lady is probably what Google Images spits out when you search for pretentious...
Those terecata color abstract motif are ugly
Agreed. Moroccan ones like like artpieces. Hers look like it came from Aliexpress.
Not gonna lie I couldn’t focus on anything she said, all I could think of was driving 3 different cars through each gap of her teeth. Looking like Micheal Strahan out here
Her geometrics we're not even consistent, particularly the ones that are squared but not quite. Those simple geometrics just don't look right
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The designer tiles look atrocious; the Moroccan ones are just plain beautiful.
and guess who sells them for a much higher price and has better publicity and reach lol unfair
Those colors+ motif are just ugly.
I was sad when I saw the big company selling their tiles and knew that somewhere somebody was trying sell their hard work but this giant was having much higher succes thanks to their aggressive marketing.
In theory, you can approach these artisans if you have the resources and start a business that caters to affluent customers and take your own piece of the pie. The only thing that would have to be done is aggressive marketing and creating an image. It should be possible.
After all, one of the core values of the luxury market is limited availability, craftsmanship, challenging production that creates prestige and individuality, and history.
Its beautiful. I didnt know there are tiles other than ceramic.❤
😂
The pattern on good quality cement tiles last much longer than on ceramic tiles. Although the later can have very sophisticated design, once the enamel layer wear off, so does the thin pained-on pattern just right beneath. It will take much, much longer for cement tile to expose its cement backing.
I would be honored to have these in my home.
They're beautiful!
Wow amazing art work!!!👍👏🏻😍💖💖💖 So beautiful 🤩🥰😍
So Pretty and Absolutely Fascinating ! This Art must continue for all Eternity !
- I hope the Moroccan tiles can continue to be made for *very* long. I'd love to get them if anyone has any idea how to.
Excellent craft!😀
If the middle eastern tile makers had better marketing in place aimed at western buyers, they would be millionaires tbh.
Yes, the marketing make or break business sometimes.
المغاربا مبدعين.
Thankyou for this epi,it ws good to know the design process
Personally, as a design-builder in the world of natural and traditional vernacular architecture, I think it is both disingenuous and inaccurate to call these "cement tiles" as much is being confused in the translation. These, when traditionally made, are not OPC industrial materials but the ancient "roman cement" type mixes which of course takes more understanding and craft. This is a sustainable product and not the massively polluting material the modern OPC cements are that fall apart around us all...These traditional tiles are wonderful...!!!
Most people spend their decades of saving and money just to buy a house.
And now you are telling them to use tiles that are maybe 10x more expensive to renovate their house because it is more environmentally friendly or because of artisan value.
Nah.
Most people had to save for decades due to a shit economy, not the other way dude, as is we have a shitty president that screwed the economy along with dumbass people that saw fit to let this slide too.
@@leolow2057 First, I'm not telling anyone to do anything...Each person has to make their ethical decisions about how they live. These tiles would not typically be used in architecture, and projects I consult on, …or…they would be made locally by members of the project or related craftspeople. I love “hand made” materials, and do not find them the “most expensive” at all so disagree with what this video is projecting on that aspect as well. I generally think, based on experience and knowledge, there are a number of flaws in this video…but that does not negate that hand made tiles of natural cement or clay are not wonderful…
Roman cement is not more advanced or environmentally friendly. The Romans left an indelible layer of ash and lead across the world with their economic activity. And any surviving roman cement is just selection bias at its finest.
I'm using this tiles and my grandparents has this tiles in their home more than 50 years. When it get dull, they will polish it and it's like new tiles again. The bolder the color, it's more expensive. I paid about $26.5 per square meter. Custom color.
nice I'm gonna go there and buy all of their rejected and broken tiles and use them for mosaic works. easy money
When are you going?
@@richardjerrybest okay I'm here now, it's not easy money. I'm struggling. I don't speak arabic nor french. please help
@@miskee11 Help? How and why?
Gracias por permitirme ver esas obras de arte tán maravilloso me gustaría que muchos jóvenes aprendieran para que no se pierda ❤❤
I love everything about them. What a craft
amazing job! in the future my house will definetily include some tiles like this, wow!
I think with more modern mold making techniques one could reduce the amount of reject tiles and make it significantly easier to produce them…
The tiles with design imperfections get destroyed? Why not sell them in mixed sets (every tile different is also an aesthetic some people go for) for reduced price? As I understand it, the most time consuming part (on the worker's side) already went into it at the very beginning, so just letting them dry and selling them, even for lower price, would mean that the work put into it is at least somewhat profitable.
The company I ordered my tiles sell those reject tiles. The price is lower and really, when put together like mix pattern, no body gonna know its reject.
They could also be used in areas where the tile needed to be cut anyway, and there are ALWAYS going to be such areas. It just involves a little bit of planning in keeping them apart.
This is a really neat video 🥹
In South India it is called "Athangudi tiles". It is cottage industry in Chettinadu in Tamil Nadu. Chettinadu Mansions got its long lasting beauty from these tiles
the tiles are so so beautiful
Working their sooo theraputic 🌿
Good job ❤
The designer tiles are so lame compared to the real thing. I grew up in the Mediterranean where these tiles were everywhere. They're bold, not minimalist and pretentious.
What do they do with the rejected tiles? Are they used as infill, or can they be recycled into new tiles?
Thank you, very interesting, Canada
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It seems to make sense that these would be more expensive, they are hand maid. (Though I am positive that you can make the same thing using machinery).
I just hope the guys who actually make it get the profit rather than some fancy design studio or a supplier claiming all the profits.
You know Kate make the lion's share.
This user is a bot
I would love to have these in my home one day!
Is there any way to get the contact of Sei in Egypt? Or where is his shop? It’s the second video I see of him in this channel without the contact information.
Why was this reposted? This was already in one of the marathon episodes several months back.
me, an electrician, watching that tile installer bury an electrical box
No mud ring, blank cover already sealed shut with mud on every edge. Horrific.
The man in Egypt made me so sad. You can see everything in his eyes.
My country's craftsmanship is just meditative
I would really love to collect those tiles🤤
Wow those are beautiful.
Beautiful
👍 beautiful 💯🙏
Thing is, if a sizable market develops for these you can be assured that someone will automate the process in a location closer to the market. Cement tiles are heavy and shipping costs are a sizable portion of the cost to the end user.
more and more people are strating to realize that quality that costs money is cheaper in the long run with heavy use ie. walking on it all day
Wow! I wish I could learn from them.
I love this art.
Good🎉🎉🎉🙏🙏
Cement tiles are expertly crafted. They can never be replicated. But who am I to add more information. I know nothing else about the whole manufacturing process behind all this.
No... they can make cars mostly automatically and you think simple tiles can't be made? The reason these are not mass factory produced is likely that western demand is too low (if it even exists at all) combined with them likely not being as profitable to make.
Id definitely like to get them directly from the manufacturer rather than a third party seller.
❤
- How can we buy his tiles? They're really creative.
In morocco,🇲🇦🇲🇦there are still houses with this Tils❤❤
Que suerte que aun se fabrquen.
fierceness.
😻😻😻😻😻 5/5
Gotta love silica
No Brasil, essas peças são chamadas de ladrilho (ou piso) hidráulico.
São muito tradicionais e são encontrados em quase todas as construções antigas, desde o século XVII, época do Brasil colônia, e do período Imperial também.
Temos muitas fabricas aqui.
É um trabalho muito bonito.
Pregunta al salir de la prensa ya está o va a un horno
LOVE FROM PUNE INDIA🇮🇳 😉😎😊😍🙂🥰
The vast majority of the production is in manual labor. What is the actual percentage cost of the raw materials and what are their margins in which specific markets?
The amount of cement used per tile is quite small, yet large construction projects continue using thousands of tons. More useful detail is required to understand the actual market reality.
Just because something is old, or "Traditional" does not mean it is good.
تبارك الله على الصانع المغربي
Similar to machuca tiles in the Philippines
the weirdest thing is, all of used to be affordable product are becoming trendy and when rich people like it, the price increase.
morocco is wonderfull
Sécher au soleil n’est pas une bonne solution. Une cure humide de trois semaines à un mois serait préférable. La prise du mortier mortier de ciment lui donne sa résistance qui s’accroît avec le temps de prise même si cette montée en résistance est plus important en début de prise. Mais cette prise s’arrête dès que le mortier est sec, d’où l’importance du temps de cure . La cure peut prendre deux formes essentielles : Humide, par arrosage régulier suffisant ou sèche, en protégeant le mortier avec une paroi étanche . On peut également utiliser des additifs plastifiants qui amélioreront l’étanchéité des mortiers qui permettent aussi de raccourcir la cure par conservation plus longue de l’humidité à l’intérieur du mortier.
Sinon, excellente et très intéressante vidéo sur le sujet ! Très complète ( petit manque sur la fabrication des moules et des modèles métalliques de moulage)
The video was so much better when they were filming the guy in Morocco
Interesting! I have the Lumix/Leica 8-18. I love it, but should use it more. Funny, I'm pretty sure I can see my condo complex in that wide-angle shot of Vegas looking north @ 04:35. Wonder how often that happens :-)
What is the shop called?
I can't find the country's name in which this factory is filmed 😐 why isn't it mentioned in the description?
In Morocco, artisans either works in Fez or Marrakesh.
The endless in Cairo, Egypt. Those are Islamic geometric traditional designs. Every Moroccan city gates has these titles design. Designer Yves St Lauren was inspired by their art and he had a home in Morocco, which now a museum in Marrakesh.
It’s because its touched by human hands that makes it worth the cost
Second part is an old video, already seen.
I was only seeing shorts of these tiles and didn't get, how they were done. I was hurting my brain over it.
Man, these a just inverted, and you just see the backside during the production process ...this is the end of a headache.
Athangudi tiles from India is similar to this
What was the name of that company?
Make a documentary on multani blue pottery
It should be relatively easy to automate portions of this process- a machine with nozzles can fill exact amounts, sprinkle cement, press it, etc. There’s no reason they couldn’t be even cheaper than ceramic- especially as they don’t have to be fired. (And yes, I realize that would reduce the handmade aspect of it, but if you wanted to, production could be upped).
7:13 "but with the passage of time, (...) the craftsmen became fewer,"
8:44 "in the last 30 years, the number of craftsmen has increased."
Err...
A half new, half old video. I guess that's better than an old video uploaded as new
This tiles are normal all over the country in morocco but the orginal zalige are hard only morocco do it and the material are moroccan 100% city of fas & some era near agadir city
They use so little cement that the price should not be much of an issue.
wait... they scrap the rejected tiles??
The art of making these tiles takes amazing skill, and if the tiles cost 10 times more than "some subway tiles", it's probably because anything of lasting quality and beauty costs more. These men are skilled craftsmen, as shown in the video, and if you want this kind of quality you have to pay for it. They have to pay more now for the products to make the tiles. Why not do a focus piece on the rising cost of cement? The tiles are still cheap at even $3.00 a tile. Average cost of glazed tile is $3 - $15, porcelain $3 - $40 per square foot (*thisoldhouse) so these are actually still a bargain, and will last far longer.
morocco🤩
Seems like an error-prone process. I'm amazed that they can make so many with few mistakes.
👌👌👌👌
Israel's war on Palestine has also contributed to expenses increasing given the increases in shipping and insurance in the Mid East region. Do not forget this omission.
How lol? Gaza doesn't export anything and Israel doesn't make these tiles or cement in masse.
@@ecognitio9605 Young padawan, you must learn to read before engaging. GPT can help you, go copy-paste and ask.
Oh! Shut up!!! 👹
@@ellenmorse8559 u first
I'm sure you posted this a couple of years ago
Haven't watched the video but let me guess, it's handmade
Hand made dor your !
the Spanish baldosas hidráulicas :
Every Moroccan city gates are decorated with these tiles, i love the blue or green color way. That so called interior designer 's terracotta version is ugly.
omg silicosis, silicosis everywhere. Someone get these people respirators stat