Thomas Howard: Chance or the Dance - Part 1

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  • Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
  • Eric Metaxas goes to Boston to talk with scholar Thomas Howard about the questions explored in his book, CHANCE OR THE DANCE? Eric considers this one of the greatest books of the 20th century.
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  • @christopher2980
    @christopher2980 4 роки тому +8

    I took ‘modern myth’ with Tom at Gordon College in 1982. He opened my world to Narnia.
    I will never forget Tom, my friend Peter S. and I drinking wine at his house in Beverly Farms until 2 am talking about everything and nothing.
    I will be eternally grateful to Tom for helping me survive the pain of love lost in 1983-84 after a women I asked to marry me... wouldn’t and didn’t !!!
    A gem in my life that at age 20-21 I could not have recognized for all he was.
    My five grown children have been to Narnia and know the Great Lion almost solely because of Tom. Amen.

  • @joemccoy2287
    @joemccoy2287 3 роки тому +3

    One of a handful of books, which I read, and then went right back to the beginning and read it again. (And a couple of times since.)

  • @eikon7001
    @eikon7001 5 років тому +10

    It’s positively tragic that more people aren’t aware of this channel.

  • @lyndanedrow4274
    @lyndanedrow4274 2 роки тому +1

    I ordered my copy of Chance or the Dance this afternoon. So glad it is back in print.

  • @noddfachurch4968
    @noddfachurch4968 5 років тому +8

    Superb book! Great interview! God Bless you!

  • @44musher
    @44musher 4 роки тому +2

    Fantastic, I shall endeavor to read Mr. Howard's books.

  • @nicholaszerangue5807
    @nicholaszerangue5807 5 років тому +2

    The book is truly amazing! Thank you so much for making this interview happen.

  • @kristennew5233
    @kristennew5233 5 років тому +4

    This was a wonderful interview (like all SITC interviews) and I am looking forward to part two!

  • @Sharkman1963
    @Sharkman1963 5 років тому +5

    Another absolutely wonderful book is Death on a Friday Afternoon, Meditations on the Last Seven Words of Christ from the Cross, by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It changed my life and is very profound.

  • @bobleroe3859
    @bobleroe3859 4 роки тому +5

    I'm currently reading The Night is far Spent (delightful!) and I'm so glad to hear the author. As Eric says, it isn't just what is said but how his ideas are expressed. The reader is drawn in.

  • @soniavadnjal5609
    @soniavadnjal5609 3 роки тому +1

    Eric certainly knows how to build up expectations!

  • @terraavis
    @terraavis 5 років тому +4

    The discussion begins at 7:59

  • @craigmooring2091
    @craigmooring2091 5 років тому +8

    This is my introduction to Thomas Howard, of whom I had never previously heard, despite the fact that his sister, Elizabeth, is one of my favorite women of all time. His connection to Lewis directly and through Wheaton College and his love of language make me want to find a copy of "Chance or Dance" immediately. The great hymnist, Isaac Watts had a similar fascination even as a child which was not always appreciated by his father, the elder Isaac Watts. Biographers tell of an incident in his childhood which I couldn't resist setting to verse (of sorts).
    'Tis said of Watts before his prime
    That frequently, not all the time,
    His wont was to discourse in rhyme
    In daily conversation.
    His father, naméd Isaac, too
    Decreed he must such speech eschew.
    Presumably, it caused undue
    Paternal consternation.
    Young Isaac, moved for papa's sake,
    Cried, "Father, do some pity take,
    And I will no more verses make."
    A clear exacerbation!
    I have come across people who, for some unfathomable reason, seem to actually be offended by the sort of well-crafted speech that Eric admires in Thomas Howard.

    • @liztesta9088
      @liztesta9088 Рік тому

      Maybe because Thomas Howard is Catholic

  • @matthew6335
    @matthew6335 5 років тому +1

    We want more

  • @paulpeca5912
    @paulpeca5912 5 років тому +26

    Eric is intelligent and means well but he negatively impacts his interviews by being long winded. The guests are great, we want to hear from them!

    • @jamesjorgenson3679
      @jamesjorgenson3679 Рік тому +1

      Agreed.
      He needs to somehow limit the “Ahs and Umms”
      So distracting.

    • @orcagna164
      @orcagna164 Рік тому

      It's so tragic that Metaxas doesn't have the patience to allow Thomas Howard the space, time and breathing room that would allow him to answer the questions and flesh out his thought! Makes no sense; Howard wrote the book! You claim to love it! He's sitting in front of you... SO LET HIM SPEAK and answer! LET HIM BREATHE! Metaxas never stop questioning and then incessantly reframing the question so as to dominate the "conversation." A good man, but an absolutely horrible listener. This might have been good.

    • @paulleitkowski8219
      @paulleitkowski8219 Рік тому

      Eric should watch and study Peter Robinson at the Hoover Institute . That's the way to conduct an interview.

  • @CalebMorgan
    @CalebMorgan 5 років тому +2

    I bet I am the only one who paused this to watch the new South Park. On a related note I am surprised Eric had not heard Lewis refer to it as "The Whole Show". I have read maybe 6 of Lewis' apologetic books and remember hearing this. I believe it is in Miracles which surprises me since Eric wrote a similar book and would definitely have read Lewis'.

    • @hervor33
      @hervor33 5 років тому

      Caleb Morgan I was surprised that I hadn’t heard him call it that - or at least I don’t remember reading it, as I’ve read around 10 of his books not including Narnia.(You most definitely were the only one pausing this to watch South Park. Gotta have that high/low media balance! :) Part of the “whole” show).

  • @michaelares4240
    @michaelares4240 2 роки тому

    I was there at Gordon when Howard arranged weekend trips with some of his male students

  • @robynhefferan9561
    @robynhefferan9561 2 роки тому

    Speechless?!!😳🤣

  • @eikon7001
    @eikon7001 5 років тому +7

    What happened to part 2?

  • @maryellen3496
    @maryellen3496 5 років тому

    Where is part two, please?

  • @hervor33
    @hervor33 5 років тому

    I have a feeling that approaching "Chance" will have similar effects on me as Lewis' "Till We Have Faces" did. For that reason I'm holding off until I'm ready to have my life changed. :)

  • @David-kd5mf
    @David-kd5mf 5 років тому +1

    I looked for the book on audible. Didnt find it. Any chance that is in the works?

    • @Powernoodle_
      @Powernoodle_ 5 років тому +1

      I second that motion.

    • @marykochan8962
      @marykochan8962 5 років тому

      It is very frustrating that Ignatius press is not doing audiobooks. They are really restricting access to the great works of the writers they own. I'm just dying for Joseph ratzinger's introduction to Christianity to be on audio.

    • @patri1689
      @patri1689 5 років тому

      @@marykochan8962
      Why audio? Don't get mad at me for sayings this but invest, buy, and read it. Great books deserve respect. Books changes lives. Cut back unnecessary expenses.

  • @artadmir
    @artadmir 5 років тому +6

    It would have been a much more interesting interview if the interviewer wouldn't have interrupted Mr. Howard so many times cutting into his line of thought. Check out at the 30:20 mark how the interviewer continues his pattern of what "his" view point is and continues his praising of Mr. Howard which interferes with the flow of the interview. It's disappointing when an interviewer is taking time from the guest. It could have been a better interview with such an interesting guest as Mr. Howard if this interviewer would have been a better listener.
    I did find Mr.Howard a very interesting person and will look further into reading his works and searching out other interviews with him.

  • @pamgessler5923
    @pamgessler5923 5 років тому +3

    Nihilism is the most frightening darkness in the world. It leaves room for every evil to be done freely with a seared conscience.

    • @soniavadnjal5609
      @soniavadnjal5609 3 роки тому

      Without conscience perhaps.

    • @pamgessler5923
      @pamgessler5923 3 роки тому

      @@soniavadnjal5609 Yes, and that's the point of nihilism. It numbs and then kills the conscience that God gave all of us.

  • @supersmart671
    @supersmart671 3 роки тому +1

    Brother of Elizabeth Elliott?

  • @bernadettesalkowska5894
    @bernadettesalkowska5894 4 роки тому +3

    Eric, the only way to interview a scholar and a great writer is to let him talk. Period.

    • @johnjumper7066
      @johnjumper7066 4 роки тому +1

      I thought Eric did well he was trying to cover alot of territory so he had to pull him along a bit. Their friendship I think made it more permissive and not rude.

  • @barbarabartels5449
    @barbarabartels5449 4 роки тому

    I wish there had been more about sex!

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 5 років тому +4

    Chance...Makes No Sense. 19th century you could make an argument for Chance. Today....not so much.

  • @bradleesargent
    @bradleesargent 4 роки тому

    I wish they would spell out the $50 words