@@boblouden6663 if you're referring to Vietnam vets, you should bow down to them. Meanwhile, you would run and hide like a cornered rat if conscription was ever introduced. OK for you to sit faceless and type utter rubbish. If you ever met a real man, like the 18-year-olds that were sent to die, lose their limbs and suffer extreme PTSD, you would be the first to soil yourself. You're a national disgrace
The IPA survey found that 40% of todays youth said they would not fight for Australia if we were attacked. The educational system from primary school through university teaches students to be ashamed of our country. It wouldn’t matter how much money you offered them.
now way. a government system that supports locking down the population and mandating experimental treatments, suppressing our freedom, based on non-science. nope. a government system that targeted and attacked civilians with the police/riot squads. nope. a government system that cedes our sovereignty to unelected external groups and conglomerates. nope. a government system that casually p1sses away millions/billions on vanity virtue signalling projects like the voice yet does nothing about abused children or seek to provide real solutions to disadvantage. nope. a government system that continues to degrade and destroy our reliable power sources and flush away billions on unfeasible/unreliable new power that will never provide reliable base load capacity. nope. a government system that condones or actively pushes climate hysteria at children through education and on the media. nope. a government system that allows massive migration to artificially report inflation figures. nope. a government system that condones pushing trans ideology at minors. nope. a government system that pushes to be the only source of 'truth' and that aims to suppress alternate sources of reporting, calling them 'misinformation'. nope. a government system where the politicians see themselves as all knowing, all wise holders of the truth and righteousness. nope. a government system where the politicians are willing to give themselves pay rises while inflation and bloating prices hurt the people taxing their wages. nope. not seeing much worth much there that would inspire me to sign up, then get shipped overseas to fight for america's failing dominance. even the statement (andrew hastie) "...you'll be called upon to defend your land and people..." theoretically. adf does its fighting overseas. don't start with we fight over there so we don't have to fight here nonsense. how about a government that supports core decency and respects freedom and choice for all it's citizens. yep. a government that uses common sense to increase the quality of living utilizing its natural resources in a considered way. yep. a government that doesn't treat the citizens like children with a cloying preponderance of laws and bureaucratic interference. yep. a government that does see the citizens as a resource to be fleeced and exploited at every opportunity. yep. in short, a government that is there to actually serve the will of the people. yep.
@@libatalklieb5793 Neither would I...but I mean, the government is in charge of the country I currently live in...and I don't want my living conditions to get worse than they already are...
At the NRL grand final, we were welcomed to this country by an Aboriginal who said Australia always has and always will be Aboriginal lands. As guests ,why would we be obliged to defend it?
What 'defence'? The ADF, as are the other 'Services' is a gravy train for the 'First Guests'. They don't have to worry about making an enterprise profitable, just skim the cream off the ACTUAL hard workers every payday and fine them to oblivion over non-sensical issues since all assets that could gain revenues are now gone. When the fake news media pull out the unemployed as a whipping boy, you know their handlers (govt) are about to pass another bill to fatten their bank accounts some more. The biggest spending bill in any budget is on government and it bureaucracies. So big in fact that it's never mentioned, in a class of its own and cannot be compared against from the likes of spending on pensioners.
What do you expect, the treatment given to Special Forces personnel has been appalling. Loyalty seems to be a one way street and it's not the enlisted soldiers who receive it. Those who give the orders should also be held responsible for the consequences.
Mate, it's these same blokes who have served their country to defend YOUR right to free speech. Which ironically affords you the un-earnt privilege to be able to criticize them. You wouldn't last five minutes doing what they do. Typically, the media of this country only chooses to show a very small number of negative incidents, conveniently forgetting the previous 20 years of highly professional combat operations. Like most people today, you mindlessly accept what the left leaning mainstream media tells you to believe. Show some gratitude @@GLEN1061
A young man I know wanted to join the army a couple of years back. He was knocked back because he is a he and not a she. They were only accepting she's and not he's to increase the number of she's so we can all celebrate inclusivity and gender balance. As the aussie saying goes - "She'll be right mate".
Good God!, well all I can say is if a fight broke out I’d still step behind a MAN!. Men are Men not pussies and disrespect of MEN gets up my clacker!. It’s all just sickening
And of course, they’ll all be horrified when there will be gender balance in the casualties. The West is now run by a pampered activist class, and they’re ruining everything.
As a former ADF member I get paid $6.60 each fortnight to cover medical expenses for my service. Most of us including myself never signed up for money. We were paid around $400 a week from memory during 2 years training. That was 15 years ago, but I think it was less than minimum wage. I understand remuneration and conditions have improved, but still got a long way to go. Still no regrets as I was a fourth generation serviceman.
I’m the same. I joined in the 90s not for the money. I’m an immigrant and a veteran and I did it because I wanted to help keep Australia safe. I get the same payment. The thing that pisses me off is the lack of patriotism now.
My brother killed himself after serving in Afghanistan in the SAS. No one cared. The army came to farewell him, the governments couldn’t have cared less if they tried.
How about providing housing for military members instead of demanding they find a private rental... and how about providing proper food, instead of privitising it to companies who are focused on profit and not on providing healthy edible food
You can apply right now to train as chef in the army & it's a priority fill job paying $71,750 yr. Far better benefits today than when I was in there 30yrs ago.
Exactly, my sons job, which is no way near as important as this, but he gets all meals travel this that and the new undies to go if needed. Australian government should understand we expect all our first responders and forces to be well trained, cared for and regarded in financial terms that at least looks respectable. Maybe they see how all our vets have been treated and know it’s a mugs game.
Serco make some really shit meals. Possibly the most half arsed contractor to the ADF. I've been out a while. Hope it has changed? Yes that's a question
A lot more people would sign up to defend OUR country if we had leaders we could trust who had Australia's best interests at heart, instead of their own pockets. Sending our young people to foreign wars must be a major detergent to recruitment. There's also the ABC doing their best to limit recruitment , lets not forget that
@@libatalklieb5793 Says the people who appreciate living in it. Nothing to do with dictators, theyre usually in countries outside of western ones. Did any of your forefathers fight for australia in either world war?.
@@daniellebcooper7160 They did, but if they had a crystal ball, I don' think they would've fought at all if they knew the future in store from them and their grand children.
Immigrants are never going to fight for this country, their loyalty lies with their home country. What True Blue Aussie man would want to fight for a country that deems them to be toxic and with the state of this nation, the risk is not worth the reward.
@@libatalklieb5793 Clearly you’re not an Aussie then, or you’re hanging around with the wrong people. I’m a True Blue Aussie and I doubt whether I’d even talk to the likes of you.
I offered to rejoin last year and they just sent me on a f**k around with stuff that has nothing to do with the ADF I've already done my training I know the right from wrong end of the barrel plus my ex has already has taken everything from me my kids my house destroyed my name what else can she take my dignity I have nothing to lose but they're to busy playing game I'm saying it as it is war is coming regardless and when it does Australia will fall and crumble and if I survive it I'm just going to laugh and say I told you so
Just think if the ADF purchased equipment that was fit for purpose, fitted, worked and was comfortable instead of the lowest tenderer wins the contract. Some of the crap I was issued when I was in caused more problems due to ill fitting and broke easily.
@@Kay-ph1kb100% . It’s commonsense strategy for a island continent / nation to manufacture it’s own equipment & with a population like ours with a landmass & coastline the size of ours . It only makes sense that the whole nation is involved in the the defence of our commonwealth.
We procure a lot of equipment from the U.S and other allied countries. Unfortunately, our defense industry, whist producing some good equipment is not geared up for sustained production required in a time of conflict. The Ukraine war is a classic example of what happens when you don't have the means and ability to fight a war without help. @@Kay-ph1kb
And albanese is happy to waste 400 million on the referendum he knew would fail, meanwhile our veterans deserve better treatment, shame albanese and labor
So I am a former member of the ADF, my daughter who is completing Year 12, looked at the ADF, she went through multiple stages in the recruitment cycle, however she stopped the process, the experience of recruitment was lacking she was looking at getting an Intel spot in the Army, which she was on track to get, she spoke with multiple recruiters and then concurrently she got uni offers from 3 universities and she took that option. Universities for preselection before Year 12 completion is a thorough but quicker process than the ADF for specialist roles. That's why the numbers are down, the process for recruitment is clunky, you get multiple recruiters looking at your file not one point of contact. Universities are taking out Aussie kids first before the end of Year 12, there process if thorough but efficient, they can get a conditional offer or a unconditional offer based n Year 11 and Year 12 results. So its it not that Aussie kids don't want to serve its the process from recruitment in ADF is not dynamic and quick enough compared to university.
And they make it almost impossible to join the force for the immigrants with citizenship and desire to join. A friend of mine is waiting for over a year and he already decided not to join since its taking ridiculous amount of time.
as ex infantry reservist, joined under Howard, why would you join for this leadership. 400,000 new migrants coming in you need a massive pay for the upcoming housing cost spike. get busy people .
My Dad was one of the few who came home from Kodoa trail,I remember taking Dad to veteran affairs to get his gold card they made my dad fight for his card the way he was treated was so disrespectful no respect, and as for his sons who all served where all treated like crap from the veteran affairs hell they even told me that I never served, we sign our life away to serve our country and when they're finished with you or you get hurt stiff shit they don't want to know you
I'm a veteran of Afghanistan, Iraq, Cambodia, East Timor, the Balkans and I'm getting exactly the same treatment. Nothing's changed. DVA are the most dehumanizing organization in this country. They make you feel like a fraud for asking for some help. Men like your dad were the reason I joined the army. Respect.
perhaps you should have told them youre a Hamas veteran seeking asylum. Centelink and Dept of Home Affairs would be throwing money and housing at you, rolling out the red carpet, set for life and never work a day.
Seriously you need to start pumping out Hawkei's Bushmasters and Battle rifles with lots and lots of Ammo . Do we even have enough Rifles to hand out to Volunteers and Conscripts if SHTF ?
Yes we have the new F90 Atrax rifles from Thales armoury,, they are the ducks guts, but you ain't getting one.. the Fuckwits are selling them to the USA .. Question _ How can you fight for a country when the leaders are as thick as pig shit ?
Previous generations upheld self-sacrifice as a virtue, and something that heroes embodied. Men and women were self-sacrificing and felt the dignity of it. Service wasn't a degrading activity to engage in, and taking and posting selfies wasn't required to validate them. This generation of young adults is the Instagram and tiktok generation, which promotes narcissism as a virtue. What impact does it have on building a person's character? Virtue-signalling is considered enough by many people in society, not just the 20 year olds (I'm looking at you Anthony Albanese 😠). Furthermore, anyone who takes offence at being "misgendered" or having the "wrong pronouns" used when being spoken to, does not have the mental hardness or resilience required to be in uniform and able to fight a real enemy. Wokeness is a societal cancer.
Multiculturalism is the cancer that reduces army enrollment across the entire West. I don't recognise this country anymore. Why would I fight for this government? We're not a homogeneous nation anymore. Unity is strength, Diversity is weakness.
People are far more aware of political corruption now that information freely flows and they will not put their neck on the line for dirty politicians.
Being ex military one thing they could fix is the superannuation. I got in and only did the minimum 6 years because as I got in they changed it to access at 55 years old instead of after 20 years of service. Also instead of indexing polticans super above inflation do that for ADF personell. They do and often sacrifice so much more than the 'people' in parliament.
I don’t blame them. Who’d fight for this mob in power, the elites, corporate Teflon coated corrupts, judiciary…etc. Also, especially after the treatment of our elite over worked servicmen. After ‘WMD’s’ and Afghanistan, who can trust government? Happening in the police force too. Don’t forget the proposed draconian over-reach firearms act here in WA. We couldn’t even raise a volunteer ‘Dad’s Army’.
It’s the dad’s army we need most . Volunteers full of pride & patriotism. I believe that’s what we should be doing & do it ourselves . we have to do something , cause nobody is coming to save us .
@@concernedaussie1330 spot on correct, but sadly the technology - drones, infrared…etc, will all be a part of it. At least we won’t suffer depression or anxiety when the mobile phone breaks.
@@robertthomas3777 rob only because the initiative isn’t laid out before us. The tech would come . Adapt & over come , do your best with what you have right now . Our best weapon is our brain & willingness to fight & win . Our citizens can train fighting fires , droughts , storms & floods . Logistics wins wars , if our brains are trained to be aware & react instantly. People will jump into whatever situation confronts them , with the skills & training they’ve learned. If we fought fires with heat guided water munitions & drones & we manufactured those technologies here for that purpose & have vast stocks of them . That we constantly train with & fight fires with . Then those technologies could easily cross over into defence systems. We have a massive inventory of personal 4x4’s ! build towed systems that operate from those vehicles. Tax incentives for people who buy equipment that can be used to defend your community / commonwealth. That’s what the commonwealth is meant to be. We all benefit from the collective efforts of our nation . We buy goods , that creates supply & demand, shops stock items, manufacturers produce, employ people that pax more tax , that pays for they’re own kit that is used to benefit everyone. The cycle continues. People own & equip themselves & are trained how to use that equipment. That means we have a nation of semi trained & semi equipped citizens that can back up our professionals while the new recruits are training. It also changes the strategic thinking of a potential invasion force . Raises the steaks . It could only be nation building & beneficial imo.
If you need to boost defence personnel numbers then the government must introduce conscription. Unemployment problem solved. Retention crisis is caused by senior officers not backing up it’s personal. Reshuffling the top brass hierarchy is the answer. Sack Angus Campbell.
yes bring back nation service for ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, it was great for many reason, and a lot of young people will stay in the ADF as it is a GREAT life...
Problem is there is high percentage of young people who are unsuitable to be anywhere near the military, either overweight, too dumb or too mentally unstable .. It would be turned into a glorified adult day care
@@jimmy12347654 - maybe - but we would get some return on our dole $$$ - create levy banks in flood times, clean up after cyclones, help with bushfires, all the things that the ADF do now.
I served from 1997 to 2004, and I was exposed to toxic chemicals. Was involved in operation slipper after 9/11. Now, I have cancer related to some of the chemical exposure. I am getting little assistance so people think hard with joining.
Why is the ADF in so much trouble? You need look no further than the two links I've posted below. Senior officers padding their own ego at the expense of the diggers on the ground.
The way the Senior Brass threw the Diggers under the bus in the wake of the Afghanistan inquiry was just plain disgusting. They demonstrated no loyalty and were too keen to pander to the left leaning media. Criminal in my opinion.
Ex Army Infantry Soldier - if I’d known how poorly they treated their members when I joined I would have tooled up to do something different in my working career - instead of getting a service related injury and tossed aside - your just a number at the end of the day. Lesson learnt.
Why would individuals be compelled to defend a nation where they're made to feel as they don’t belong like outsiders? The recent tradition of the Indigenous 'Welcome to Country' may be well-intentioned, but, it might inadvertently emphasize division rather than unity. The current government's messaging seems to further this sense of separation, lacking the essence of national pride. It's becoming increasingly challenging for our youth to find volunteer opportunities. Many programs have age restrictions, and by the time they're eligible, it might be too late to instill a sense of service and commitment in them. We need to reshape this narrative and create more inclusive opportunities, ensuring every citizen, Indigenous or otherwise, feels a deep sense of belonging. Only then will our youth be inspired to stand up for our nation. We need to reignite the pride in the nation and celebrate our shared identity as Australians.
As a Veteran who has served in an Infantry Battalion and now has a child in the ADF I can tell you were in the shit. Shout out to the DVA also thanks for all your help, not.
It's interesting that no one is mentioning Turkey. NATO member,Islamic State,largest & best equiped & trained armed forces in the region!! Where do they stand in all the worrying scenarios? We need answers but not from the usual propagandists - it's far too serious.
At this point very sadly Australia doesn’t have much of a chance if invasion happens. If only 1/3 of young people as a recent survey showed would be willing to put their hand up what hope do we have?
I'm going to say this: the recruit's progress is plodding. My young brother wants to join the ADF, but the wait for some tests is long, such as up to 9 weeks to do the fitness and other tests. Another thing is the ADF changed their policy at least half-time with recruiting personnel.
Im a British forces guy trying to join, i sent my CV and Information over 8 weeks ago. Not heard anything back. All i see is these recruitment issues, youd think it would be faster to join in times of need. Ill still wait though, wouldn't mind living in Australia
I joined in 1983. I was injured in a parachuting accident due to negligence of the army and Air Force. I was discharged with shoulder, back, knee and broken teeth an forgotten about. Just over a year ago I finally got a white card for my depression after being told I was not entitled for over thirty years. Another mistake was by them was mixing my Army reserve service with my regular army engagement. I can not find help anywhere. Expect to be forgotten about if you are injured during service.
Why would any competent Western man want to fight and die for any Western country right now? What do their countries have offer to make them want to defend them?
Reply to @azzif888 if you have to ask Thst question you obviously don’t appreciate the freedom democracy offers in the western countries. If you need to ask THAT question - why did you come to the west. Western culture and democracy deserves to be defended and MUST BE DEFENDED. Snd the only way to do that is yo ensure we are prepared in the event of war snd invasion. To do this we NEED sufficient military personnel snd that won’t happen if the so called “woke” brigade don’t wake up snd pay attention to what’s happening around the world. Different sectors are at war slready. It is NOT what we have here snd certainly not what we need. So head down to the recruitment offices if the DoD snd dignity up.
@@erikawindt529 I would consider what you say to be correct. Sufficient would be good. Now, what are they to be offered to make them want to join? Defend a country that will scour their reputation, tarnish the ranks and reward the officers, that considers 1500 suicided veterans not sufficient cause to rethink the treatment given to them on return? Said treatment being no more nor no less than a spiralling supply of mind-numbing medications you would dread to take? I would agree that values need defending, but who will defend the soldiers from the abc and urban contempt? 🤔
@@erikawindt529 Agree whole heartedly. There is a serious lack of masculine courage, selflessness, conviction and love of country above self in the youth of today. That's what our governments, various ideological movements and education system have produced for us. too many fighting age Australians are powderpuff's who still need mummy and daddy to hold their hand. ADF life e is to tough for them. Also there's not enough reward for service personnel. Why would you put your life on the line life and then return to find little support, reward and gratitude. We must rebuild love of country again.
if the invading forces say we will tax you less..... free up land for housing and make energy cheaper. I could imagine a peaceful renaming of Australia.
I’d never fight for this government. I’m so keen to serve in a civilian volunteer force & I’d make it my life’s work & full time hobby . But never for the government ( all major parties ) that have nose dived our commonwealth into the ground & sold us out .
I do not accept FNP as a superior race over Australians who are granted political, legal, financial or land "ownership in perpetuity" advantage solely based on race. As a citizen of Australia I do not accept the racism of "Welcome to Country" telling me I don't belong here, I never have, and never will. And, by the way, "Pay the Rent!" on my own property. So, I should fight to defend their country?
Why do politicians get life long pension plus perks for life for serving a couple of years yet ADF lost their life pension after 20 year service. Pay ADF more. Why is it government spending is so huge yet we can’t pay to keep our ADF members?
How do you expect someone to sign up for the army, navy or air force, and defend this country when their own government is telling them it has a shameful history,,not hard to work out!
When you have a generation or two of young people who don’t have pride in their country, when everyone sees the ill-treatment of veterans, when we pander to minorities that aren’t the target demographic of the ADF, when ADF careers aren’t managed adequately it’s no wonder current serving members are leaving and recruiting targets are woefully short.
Wild idea here. When you don’t have children, the adults they would have become don’t exist. Australia’s population is only growing because of immigration both legal and illegal. The only way they will increase the size of the ADF is by recruiting immigrants.
It's never been about a recruitment issue; the problem has always been about RETENTION! This has never been addressed and never will be as most Western militaries are an afterthought solution and not part of the social Australian fabric because Soldiering in Australia is not considered a primary career. Until these changes are understood and actioned nothing will come of this.
Well, the Army has been betrayed. They needed 450 IFVs at a minimum, in reality 1,000 but only got given 129. An Army without armour is not worth joining.
Hawke and his cronies decimated the military in the 80’s every labor party since then has continued the tradition wong n albo are no different… No one wants to fight for a government who does not care for their own people; as to why the defence spending was given back the the treasury ask the defence minister, I would go as far to say that the returned spending has left the military short of training and military hardware etc… how ever the need to get cash back into the coffers for government junkets etc would be better spent… just ask the foot soldier, sailor or airman they will tell you as it is , they will not be politically correct ….
@@libatalklieb5793 yeah labor with Hawke in charge who broke the back of the union by bringing in scab labour for the pilots strike in the late 80’s early 90’s… Or Keating trying to put his arm around the Queen hahaha Get a life …
It's a self licking ice cream, People leave, they aren't replaced, those who remain have to pick up the slack, eventually they get over and then leave. Repeat.
Why would anyone join when soldiers get thrown under the bus by the leaders I served 19 years in the army 1991 to 2010 and I have never seen it worse than it is now
They should lower their excessively high expectations and standards. It's as simple as that. I'm quite sure that many coveted positions in the military didn't demand such elevated levels of skill and mental sharpness sixty years ago. If the ADF applied the same criteria today as they did during and shortly after the Vietnam War, there would hardly be anyone left to serve. Look... I acknowledge that it's a compact, expertly trained Defence Force. However, individuals from Generation Z and younger Millennials, including myself, won't enlist to occupy roles we don't find appealing. Label me as a privileged Bratt if you wish, but I'm evidently not the only one who shares this perspective.
what ABC and the Chief of Defence force did recently to their soldiers, is why I, as an ex soldier spends any chance i get to ensure i let people know the mistake they are making, ive helped MANY over the last 12 months see the light..... proud of my work
Get rid of Labor government before it's too late
We don't need a LNP government that wastes money on defense.
Sadly, following the US into their stupid wars is bipartisan in Australia.
All major parties have to go , they all sold us out & all played their part in nose diving our commonwealth into the ground.
Australia's treatment of veterans has been a national disgrace since the Vietnam era.
We need better care for our vets
No one likes an Army that lost.
@@boblouden6663 if you're referring to Vietnam vets, you should bow down to them. Meanwhile, you would run and hide like a cornered rat if conscription was ever introduced. OK for you to sit faceless and type utter rubbish. If you ever met a real man, like the 18-year-olds that were sent to die, lose their limbs and suffer extreme PTSD, you would be the first to soil yourself. You're a national disgrace
@@boblouden6663 the Australian army didn't lose. We showed the world and the USA how good we were. The politicions lost the war.
@@brianbattle3651 Is black ,black or really dark grey?
@@boblouden6663that’s a senseless and irrelevant argument, better luck next time
The IPA survey found that 40% of todays youth said they would not fight for Australia if we were attacked. The educational system from primary school through university teaches students to be ashamed of our country. It wouldn’t matter how much money you offered them.
but wouldn't they get called up. .... or am I out of date.
Don't forget they also got demonized for being a male as well
@@Kay-ph1kb They would just class a call up as going against their human rights
An important point which seems to be overlooked.
I just commented the SAME THING...they're taught to hate our country and being patriotic
Who would fight for this weak and anaemic governments that we have.
now way.
a government system that supports locking down the population and mandating experimental treatments, suppressing our freedom, based on non-science. nope.
a government system that targeted and attacked civilians with the police/riot squads. nope.
a government system that cedes our sovereignty to unelected external groups and conglomerates. nope.
a government system that casually p1sses away millions/billions on vanity virtue signalling projects like the voice yet does nothing about abused children or seek to provide real solutions to disadvantage. nope.
a government system that continues to degrade and destroy our reliable power sources and flush away billions on unfeasible/unreliable new power that will never provide reliable base load capacity. nope.
a government system that condones or actively pushes climate hysteria at children through education and on the media. nope.
a government system that allows massive migration to artificially report inflation figures. nope.
a government system that condones pushing trans ideology at minors. nope.
a government system that pushes to be the only source of 'truth' and that aims to suppress alternate sources of reporting, calling them 'misinformation'. nope.
a government system where the politicians see themselves as all knowing, all wise holders of the truth and righteousness. nope.
a government system where the politicians are willing to give themselves pay rises while inflation and bloating prices hurt the people taxing their wages. nope.
not seeing much worth much there that would inspire me to sign up, then get shipped overseas to fight for america's failing dominance.
even the statement (andrew hastie) "...you'll be called upon to defend your land and people..."
theoretically. adf does its fighting overseas. don't start with we fight over there so we don't have to fight here nonsense.
how about a government that supports core decency and respects freedom and choice for all it's citizens. yep.
a government that uses common sense to increase the quality of living utilizing its natural resources in a considered way. yep.
a government that doesn't treat the citizens like children with a cloying preponderance of laws and bureaucratic interference. yep.
a government that does see the citizens as a resource to be fleeced and exploited at every opportunity. yep.
in short, a government that is there to actually serve the will of the people. yep.
I wouldn't fight for any government.
@@libatalklieb5793 Neither would I...but I mean, the government is in charge of the country I currently live in...and I don't want my living conditions to get worse than they already are...
@@theoutsider8745 If you are living in Australia like me, then you are living the most miserable first world country in the world.
@@libatalklieb5793 No kidding mate. But hey, at least we're not the US...
the ADF have gone Woke. get rid of woke ideas out of ADF
At the NRL grand final, we were welcomed to this country by an Aboriginal who said Australia always has and always will be Aboriginal lands. As guests ,why would we be obliged to defend it?
yeah, aren't they lucky the Japanese didn't get here first, they probably wouldn't have been so nice.
Aboriginals were exempt from National Service during the Vietnam War.
@@AussieDJRemixes or the Maoris
I trust he was booed?
What 'defence'? The ADF, as are the other 'Services' is a gravy train for the 'First Guests'. They don't have to worry about making an enterprise profitable, just skim the cream off the ACTUAL hard workers every payday and fine them to oblivion over non-sensical issues since all assets that could gain revenues are now gone.
When the fake news media pull out the unemployed as a whipping boy, you know their handlers (govt) are about to pass another bill to fatten their bank accounts some more. The biggest spending bill in any budget is on government and it bureaucracies. So big in fact that it's never mentioned, in a class of its own and cannot be compared against from the likes of spending on pensioners.
Look at the adf leadership under that grub and the diversity officers
Well said
What do you expect, the treatment given to Special Forces personnel has been appalling. Loyalty seems to be a one way street and it's not the enlisted soldiers who receive it. Those who give the orders should also be held responsible for the consequences.
Australian Special Forces are their own worst enemies actually believe their own special brand of boolsheet!
@@GLEN1061 spoken like a real hero.
Mate, it's these same blokes who have served their country to defend YOUR right to free speech. Which ironically affords you the un-earnt privilege to be able to criticize them. You wouldn't last five minutes doing what they do. Typically, the media of this country only chooses to show a very small number of negative incidents, conveniently forgetting the previous 20 years of highly professional combat operations. Like most people today, you mindlessly accept what the left leaning mainstream media tells you to believe. Show some gratitude @@GLEN1061
Why would anyone want to join an outfit that isn't even prepared to stand by their own??
I like this Shadow Defence Minister, he explains and speaks very clearly and inspires confidence.
His government was part of the problem giving 20 and 30 percent pay rises to Politicians and we got 3.5 % if we were lucky.
Richard Marles. He's very good. Yes ALBANESE A GREAT
MAN 😊😊
Andrew Hastie Hastie ,gave evidence against his own Special Forces. FOR PUBLICITY
A young man I know wanted to join the army a couple of years back. He was knocked back because he is a he and not a she. They were only accepting she's and not he's to increase the number of she's so we can all celebrate inclusivity and gender balance. As the aussie saying goes - "She'll be right mate".
Good God!, well all I can say is if a fight broke out I’d still step behind a MAN!. Men are Men not pussies and disrespect of MEN gets up my clacker!. It’s all just sickening
That started pack in the 1990's...
And of course, they’ll all be horrified when there will be gender balance in the casualties. The West is now run by a pampered activist class, and they’re ruining everything.
He, she, or whatever should have 'transitioned.
Oh, what a world we live in.
Nonsense fake
As a former ADF member I get paid $6.60 each fortnight to cover medical expenses for my service. Most of us including myself never signed up for money. We were paid around $400 a week from memory during 2 years training. That was 15 years ago, but I think it was less than minimum wage.
I understand remuneration and conditions have improved, but still got a long way to go.
Still no regrets as I was a fourth generation serviceman.
I think you will find your White Card entitles you free treatment of any diagnosed cancer, and mental health conditions.
@@user-dd9tc4zz8j I don't suffer from those conditions David. But thanks for the information. 🦘
Thank you for your service.
Thank You, for you service. ❤️🇦🇺🦘
I’m the same. I joined in the 90s not for the money. I’m an immigrant and a veteran and I did it because I wanted to help keep Australia safe. I get the same payment. The thing that pisses me off is the lack of patriotism now.
People have lost faith in the goverment and that means they prefer not to be a soldier for such a joke of an operation
Start drafting strong independent woman, LGBTQ’s, and BLM’s. it’s time for them to pull their weight.
My brother killed himself after serving in Afghanistan in the SAS.
No one cared. The army came to farewell him, the governments couldn’t have cared less if they tried.
Such a tragedy but unfortunately not surprising behaviour from our corrupt politicians. They are not worth fighting & sacrificing for.
Sorry for your loss .
I am sorry to hear this.
Join the Army, do your job and then get prosecuted for murder.
Why don't they recruit from the ABC? (revenue neutral) - although already double-agents could be tricky?
How about providing housing for military members instead of demanding they find a private rental... and how about providing proper food, instead of privitising it to companies who are focused on profit and not on providing healthy edible food
You can apply right now to train as chef in the army & it's a priority fill job paying $71,750 yr. Far better benefits today than when I was in there 30yrs ago.
Exactly, my sons job, which is no way near as important as this, but he gets all meals travel this that and the new undies to go if needed. Australian government should understand we expect all our first responders and forces to be well trained, cared for and regarded in financial terms that at least looks respectable. Maybe they see how all our vets have been treated and know it’s a mugs game.
Serco make some really shit meals. Possibly the most half arsed contractor to the ADF. I've been out a while. Hope it has changed? Yes that's a question
Its not just these current gumbyment. But this has been a problem for years. And it is symptomatic with what Australia has become.
The military is woke.
A lot more people would sign up to defend OUR country if we had leaders we could trust who had Australia's best interests at heart, instead of their own pockets. Sending our young people to foreign wars must be a major detergent to recruitment. There's also the ABC doing their best to limit recruitment , lets not forget that
Would you send you kids to die in a war that has nothing to do with us?
Keeping western culture alive throughout the world is in Australia best interests.
@@daniellebcooper7160 Says who? mate we don't need dictators.
@@libatalklieb5793 Says the people who appreciate living in it. Nothing to do with dictators, theyre usually in countries outside of western ones.
Did any of your forefathers fight for australia in either world war?.
@@daniellebcooper7160 They did, but if they had a crystal ball, I don' think they would've fought at all if they knew the future in store from them and their grand children.
Bring in the draft for women 18-28. That will fix the problem. 👍👍👍
Immigrants are never going to fight for this country, their loyalty lies with their home country. What True Blue Aussie man would want to fight for a country that deems them to be toxic and with the state of this nation, the risk is not worth the reward.
No such thing as a True Blue Aussie
@@libatalklieb5793
Clearly you’re not an Aussie then, or you’re hanging around with the wrong people. I’m a True Blue Aussie and I doubt whether I’d even talk to the likes of you.
@@aussierob3860 One sad puppy
@@libatalklieb5793
I’m not sad at all.
@@aussierob3860 You are suffering from PTSD
I offered to rejoin last year and they just sent me on a f**k around with stuff that has nothing to do with the ADF I've already done my training I know the right from wrong end of the barrel plus my ex has already has taken everything from me my kids my house destroyed my name what else can she take my dignity I have nothing to lose but they're to busy playing game I'm saying it as it is war is coming regardless and when it does Australia will fall and crumble and if I survive it I'm just going to laugh and say I told you so
would you serve a country that you cant aford a house in + are the invaders beter then your govemnet
I'm not fighting for a country that hates me.
I don't hate you mate.
Stop demonizing men then
Just think if the ADF purchased equipment that was fit for purpose, fitted, worked and was comfortable instead of the lowest tenderer wins the contract. Some of the crap I was issued when I was in caused more problems due to ill fitting and broke easily.
Out of interest, where does the equipment come from? If it is not made in Australia, would the supplier cut us off in the event of a war ?
@@Kay-ph1kb100% .
It’s commonsense strategy for a island continent / nation to manufacture it’s own equipment & with a population like ours with a landmass & coastline the size of ours . It only makes sense that the whole nation is involved in the the defence of our commonwealth.
We procure a lot of equipment from the U.S and other allied countries. Unfortunately, our defense industry, whist producing some good equipment is not geared up for sustained production required in a time of conflict. The Ukraine war is a classic example of what happens when you don't have the means and ability to fight a war without help. @@Kay-ph1kb
Albo is a weak P.M
Our factories are not ready, and we don’t have the technology for production.
I'm not sure that Biden is the man who can stop this.
Go and defend Australia and its people, even the ones that hate you and Australia, yeah right.
In my opinion, everything is worse under this Government…….
Gone are the Days where one could legitimately serve Both God and Country.
Choose this Day Whom you will Serve.
Does that get awkward when serving God and your country wants you to kill gods children?
And albanese is happy to waste 400 million on the referendum he knew would fail, meanwhile our veterans deserve better treatment, shame albanese and labor
Give us our guns back. Now is the time
So I am a former member of the ADF, my daughter who is completing Year 12, looked at the ADF, she went through multiple stages in the recruitment cycle, however she stopped the process, the experience of recruitment was lacking she was looking at getting an Intel spot in the Army, which she was on track to get, she spoke with multiple recruiters and then concurrently she got uni offers from 3 universities and she took that option.
Universities for preselection before Year 12 completion is a thorough but quicker process than the ADF for specialist roles.
That's why the numbers are down, the process for recruitment is clunky, you get multiple recruiters looking at your file not one point of contact.
Universities are taking out Aussie kids first before the end of Year 12, there process if thorough but efficient, they can get a conditional offer or a unconditional offer based n Year 11 and Year 12 results.
So its it not that Aussie kids don't want to serve its the process from recruitment in ADF is not dynamic and quick enough compared to university.
Surprise surprise..gotta keep those bureaucratic folks paid
And they make it almost impossible to join the force for the immigrants with citizenship and desire to join. A friend of mine is waiting for over a year and he already decided not to join since its taking ridiculous amount of time.
Wait till China invades us. We’ll all be getting recruited
as ex infantry reservist, joined under Howard, why would you join for this leadership. 400,000 new migrants coming in you need a massive pay for the upcoming housing cost spike. get busy people .
Very well spoken Andrew.
My Dad was one of the few who came home from Kodoa trail,I remember taking Dad to veteran affairs to get his gold card they made my dad fight for his card the way he was treated was so disrespectful no respect, and as for his sons who all served where all treated like crap from the veteran affairs hell they even told me that I never served, we sign our life away to serve our country and when they're finished with you or you get hurt stiff shit they don't want to know you
I'm a veteran of Afghanistan, Iraq, Cambodia, East Timor, the Balkans and I'm getting exactly the same treatment. Nothing's changed. DVA are the most dehumanizing organization in this country. They make you feel like a fraud for asking for some help. Men like your dad were the reason I joined the army. Respect.
perhaps you should have told them youre a Hamas veteran seeking asylum.
Centelink and Dept of Home Affairs would be throwing money and housing at you, rolling out the red carpet, set for life and never work a day.
Yep sounds about right. @@bornyesterday1895
Seriously you need to start pumping out Hawkei's Bushmasters and Battle rifles with lots and lots of Ammo .
Do we even have enough Rifles to hand out to Volunteers and Conscripts if SHTF ?
They are crap.
Yes we have the new F90 Atrax rifles from Thales armoury,, they are the ducks guts, but you ain't getting one.. the Fuckwits are selling them to the USA ..
Question _ How can you fight for a country when the leaders are as thick as pig shit ?
If SHTF bro we'll be standing around stupid with Bunnings tools, it'll be Dad's Army 2.0
No
Perhaps we have got too complacent. But this business in Israel has shook me up a bit.
Previous generations upheld self-sacrifice as a virtue, and something that heroes embodied.
Men and women were self-sacrificing and felt the dignity of it.
Service wasn't a degrading activity to engage in, and taking and posting selfies wasn't required to validate them.
This generation of young adults is the Instagram and tiktok generation, which promotes narcissism as a virtue.
What impact does it have on building a person's character?
Virtue-signalling is considered enough by many people in society, not just the 20 year olds (I'm looking at you Anthony Albanese 😠).
Furthermore, anyone who takes offence at being "misgendered" or having the "wrong pronouns" used when being spoken to, does not have the mental hardness or resilience required to be in uniform and able to fight a real enemy.
Wokeness is a societal cancer.
Multiculturalism is the cancer that reduces army enrollment across the entire West. I don't recognise this country anymore. Why would I fight for this government? We're not a homogeneous nation anymore. Unity is strength, Diversity is weakness.
People are far more aware of political corruption now that information freely flows and they will not put their neck on the line for dirty politicians.
Being ex military one thing they could fix is the superannuation. I got in and only did the minimum 6 years because as I got in they changed it to access at 55 years old instead of after 20 years of service. Also instead of indexing polticans super above inflation do that for ADF personell. They do and often sacrifice so much more than the 'people' in parliament.
I don’t blame them. Who’d fight for this mob in power, the elites, corporate Teflon coated corrupts, judiciary…etc. Also, especially after the treatment of our elite over worked servicmen.
After ‘WMD’s’ and Afghanistan, who can trust government?
Happening in the police force too.
Don’t forget the proposed draconian over-reach firearms act here in WA. We couldn’t even raise a volunteer ‘Dad’s Army’.
It’s the dad’s army we need most . Volunteers full of pride & patriotism. I believe that’s what we should be doing & do it ourselves . we have to do something , cause nobody is coming to save us .
@@concernedaussie1330 spot on correct, but sadly the technology - drones, infrared…etc, will all be a part of it.
At least we won’t suffer depression or anxiety when the mobile phone breaks.
@@robertthomas3777 rob only because the initiative isn’t laid out before us. The tech would come .
Adapt & over come , do your best with what you have right now . Our best weapon is our brain & willingness to fight & win .
Our citizens can train fighting fires , droughts , storms & floods . Logistics wins wars , if our brains are trained to be aware & react instantly. People will jump into whatever situation confronts them , with the skills & training they’ve learned.
If we fought fires with heat guided water munitions & drones & we manufactured those technologies here for that purpose & have vast stocks of them . That we constantly train with & fight fires with . Then those technologies could easily cross over into defence systems.
We have a massive inventory of personal 4x4’s ! build towed systems that operate from those vehicles.
Tax incentives for people who buy equipment that can be used to defend your community / commonwealth. That’s what the commonwealth is meant to be. We all benefit from the collective efforts of our nation . We buy goods , that creates supply & demand, shops stock items, manufacturers produce, employ people that pax more tax , that pays for they’re own kit that is used to benefit everyone. The cycle continues. People own & equip themselves & are trained how to use that equipment. That means we have a nation of semi trained & semi equipped citizens that can back up our professionals while the new recruits are training.
It also changes the strategic thinking of a potential invasion force . Raises the steaks . It could only be nation building & beneficial imo.
My gosh, cant get Police Officers either , wonder why
ADF=not worth it.
Im sure there's loads of fat Trans with pink hair who'd join. Im feeling safer already.
(1) The ADF has a leadership problem and its had this for a long time, poor leaders --> poor morale --> poor retention.
If you need to boost defence personnel numbers then the government must introduce conscription. Unemployment problem solved.
Retention crisis is caused by senior officers not backing up it’s personal.
Reshuffling the top brass hierarchy is the answer.
Sack Angus Campbell.
yes bring back nation service for ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, it was great for many reason, and a lot of young people will stay in the ADF as it is a GREAT life...
@@jack12343 Up yours Jack
Problem is there is high percentage of young people who are unsuitable to be anywhere near the military, either overweight, too dumb or too mentally unstable .. It would be turned into a glorified adult day care
@@jimmy12347654 - maybe - but we would get some return on our dole $$$ - create levy banks in flood times, clean up after cyclones, help with bushfires, all the things that the ADF do now.
@@jimmy12347654 That is what happens when Anglos inbreed
I served from 1997 to 2004, and I was exposed to toxic chemicals.
Was involved in operation slipper after 9/11.
Now, I have cancer related to some of the chemical exposure.
I am getting little assistance so people think hard with joining.
ADF recruiting has been a debacle for decades !! Both sides of Government to blame !!
Why is the ADF in so much trouble? You need look no further than the two links I've posted below. Senior officers padding their own ego at the expense of the diggers on the ground.
The way the Senior Brass threw the Diggers under the bus in the wake of the Afghanistan inquiry was just plain disgusting. They demonstrated no loyalty and were too keen to pander to the left leaning media. Criminal in my opinion.
Ex Army Infantry Soldier - if I’d known how poorly they treated their members when I joined I would have tooled up to do something different in my working career - instead of getting a service related injury and tossed aside - your just a number at the end of the day.
Lesson learnt.
Why would individuals be compelled to defend a nation where they're made to feel as they don’t belong like outsiders? The recent tradition of the Indigenous 'Welcome to Country' may be well-intentioned, but, it might inadvertently emphasize division rather than unity. The current government's messaging seems to further this sense of separation, lacking the essence of national pride. It's becoming increasingly challenging for our youth to find volunteer opportunities. Many programs have age restrictions, and by the time they're eligible, it might be too late to instill a sense of service and commitment in them. We need to reshape this narrative and create more inclusive opportunities, ensuring every citizen, Indigenous or otherwise, feels a deep sense of belonging. Only then will our youth be inspired to stand up for our nation. We need to reignite the pride in the nation and celebrate our shared identity as Australians.
As a Veteran who has served in an Infantry Battalion and now has a child in the ADF I can tell you were in the shit. Shout out to the DVA also thanks for all your help, not.
Lol so 1 pen pusher for 4 soldiers no wonder theres issues
You obviously don't know much about the Military...
It's interesting that no one is mentioning Turkey. NATO member,Islamic State,largest & best equiped & trained armed forces in the region!! Where do they stand in all the worrying scenarios? We need answers but not from the usual propagandists - it's far too serious.
You can earn more scribbling for video games.
At this point very sadly Australia doesn’t have much of a chance if invasion happens. If only 1/3 of young people as a recent survey showed would be willing to put their hand up what hope do we have?
I'm going to say this: the recruit's progress is plodding. My young brother wants to join the ADF, but the wait for some tests is long, such as up to 9 weeks to do the fitness and other tests. Another thing is the ADF changed their policy at least half-time with recruiting personnel.
Im a British forces guy trying to join, i sent my CV and Information over 8 weeks ago. Not heard anything back. All i see is these recruitment issues, youd think it would be faster to join in times of need. Ill still wait though, wouldn't mind living in Australia
takes to long to get through the recuiting process... before you get to recuit school.... STOP OUT SOURCING
This is ridiculous. Country of 25 million people having a military force of 80 000.
Ridiculous.
Will a Chinese migrant or an Indian migrant join Australia army forces and fight for Australia?
I'd make them be army cooks ,black bean anybody
very few. These wars are for white people to fight. Gotta get those pesky white people out of the way.
Irrelevant who fired that rocket. No one would have been killed if the people had kept out Hamas.
Speaking as someone that's never served, I just wanted to say i'm glad I never did.
I joined in 1983. I was injured in a parachuting accident due to negligence of the army and Air Force. I was discharged with shoulder, back, knee and broken teeth an forgotten about. Just over a year ago I finally got a white card for my depression after being told I was not entitled for over thirty years. Another mistake was by them was mixing my Army reserve service with my regular army engagement. I can not find help anywhere. Expect to be forgotten about if you are injured during service.
Recruitment crisis? Lol they rejected me over a shoulder injury i received in my early 20s,
Maybe reject less.. try that.
service for citizenship
The ADF should keep showing zero white men in their ads. That will definitely improve their recruitment woes. 🙄
I can't work out if that is sarcasm or your serious. I hope it's the first.
@@Virium-eq1rg It's sarcasm. The ADF, like most institutions in the modern era, is unfortunately no longer a place for self-respecting Aussies.
I wanted to join but I got barred because I have high functioning Autism. Huh.
Any young person who joins the ADF needs to have a rethink?
get them to join the Air Force, where we send the officers into Battle.
Why would any competent Western man want to fight and die for any Western country right now?
What do their countries have offer to make them want to defend them?
Reply to @azzif888 if you have to ask Thst question you obviously don’t appreciate the freedom democracy offers in the western countries. If you need to ask THAT question - why did you come to the west. Western culture and democracy deserves to be defended and MUST BE DEFENDED. Snd the only way to do that is yo ensure we are prepared in the event of war snd invasion. To do this we NEED sufficient military personnel snd that won’t happen if the so called “woke” brigade don’t wake up snd pay attention to what’s happening around the world. Different sectors are at war slready. It is NOT what we have here snd certainly not what we need. So head down to the recruitment offices if the DoD snd dignity up.
@@erikawindt529 I would consider what you say to be correct. Sufficient would be good.
Now, what are they to be offered to make them want to join? Defend a country that will scour their reputation, tarnish the ranks and reward the officers, that considers 1500 suicided veterans not sufficient cause to rethink the treatment given to them on return? Said treatment being no more nor no less than a spiralling supply of mind-numbing medications you would dread to take? I would agree that values need defending, but who will defend the soldiers from the abc and urban contempt? 🤔
@@erikawindt529What democracy?
@@erikawindt529 Agree whole heartedly. There is a serious lack of masculine courage, selflessness, conviction and love of country above self in the youth of today. That's what our governments, various ideological movements and education system have produced for us. too many fighting age Australians are powderpuff's who still need mummy and daddy to hold their hand. ADF life e is to tough for them. Also there's not enough reward for service personnel. Why would you put your life on the line life and then return to find little support, reward and gratitude. We must rebuild love of country again.
if the invading forces say we will tax you less..... free up land for housing and make energy cheaper. I could imagine a peaceful renaming of Australia.
Dangerous levels...
I am appalled at the treatment of damaged service and ex-service people by the politicians and public service fat cats in this country. My opinion.
Not surprised
I’d never fight for this government.
I’m so keen to serve in a civilian volunteer force & I’d make it my life’s work & full time hobby .
But never for the government ( all major parties ) that have nose dived our commonwealth into the ground & sold us out .
I do not accept FNP as a superior race over Australians who are granted political, legal, financial or land "ownership in perpetuity" advantage solely based on race. As a citizen of Australia I do not accept the racism of "Welcome to Country" telling me I don't belong here, I never have, and never will. And, by the way, "Pay the Rent!" on my own property. So, I should fight to defend their country?
Neil Mitchell will fight....when pigs can fly
Why do politicians get life long pension plus perks for life for serving a couple of years yet ADF lost their life pension after 20 year service.
Pay ADF more. Why is it government spending is so huge yet we can’t pay to keep our ADF members?
The LNP didn't do a better job of recruiting people for the ADF.
Israel is giving firearms to civilians even though they have 300000 called up.
What can Ausyralia provide when the SHTF
vegemite sammiches
What can Australia provide? Plenty of red tape!
How do you expect someone to sign up for the army, navy or air force, and defend this country when their own government is telling them it has a shameful history,,not hard to work out!
When you have a generation or two of young people who don’t have pride in their country, when everyone sees the ill-treatment of veterans, when we pander to minorities that aren’t the target demographic of the ADF, when ADF careers aren’t managed adequately it’s no wonder current serving members are leaving and recruiting targets are woefully short.
They didn't want me when l was fit and healthy at 22, wonder if they'll draft me at 35?
Wild idea here. When you don’t have children, the adults they would have become don’t exist. Australia’s population is only growing because of immigration both legal and illegal. The only way they will increase the size of the ADF is by recruiting immigrants.
They made it this way on purpose. You can’t accidentally cripple the commonwealth this badly. It’s been done on purpose.
Why would you inlist if you see how vets treated
It's never been about a recruitment issue; the problem has always been about RETENTION! This has never been addressed and never will be as most Western militaries are an afterthought solution and not part of the social Australian fabric because Soldiering in Australia is not considered a primary career.
Until these changes are understood and actioned nothing will come of this.
Why doesn’t the ADF give the members extremely good pay and benefits, don’t be cheap about it.
Because it will mean some of the greedy people at parliament house getting less money for being professional bullsh...t artist.
Well, the Army has been betrayed. They needed 450 IFVs at a minimum, in reality 1,000 but only got given 129. An Army without armour is not worth joining.
Of course Haiste would say that. Could he do a better job. History tells us otherwise. ADF has been in disarray for a long time.
Mandatory service for school-leavers and migrants.
Hawke and his cronies decimated the military in the 80’s every labor party since then has continued the tradition wong n albo are no different…
No one wants to fight for a government who does not care for their own people; as to why the defence spending was given back the the treasury ask the defence minister, I would go as far to say that the returned spending has left the military short of training and military hardware etc… how ever the need to get cash back into the coffers for government junkets etc would be better spent…
just ask the foot soldier, sailor or airman they will tell you as it is , they will not be politically correct ….
Thank God Labor did.
@@libatalklieb5793 yeah labor with Hawke in charge who broke the back of the union by bringing in scab labour for the pilots strike in the late 80’s early 90’s…
Or
Keating trying to put his arm around the Queen hahaha
Get a life …
@@3pipper The poor Queen thank God she is gone
@@libatalklieb5793 are you ALLOWED to use that terminology on open media???
@@3pipper Do you want to takeaway my right to free speech?
WW2 Germany, Italy, Japan.. then joined by Russia.. andrew you lost it there.
"eventually" i think he meant the cold war, in either case he should of said the Soviet Union...
It's a self licking ice cream, People leave, they aren't replaced, those who remain have to pick up the slack, eventually they get over and then leave. Repeat.
Turned off when I saw Hastie
Why would anyone join when soldiers get thrown under the bus by the leaders I served 19 years in the army 1991 to 2010 and I have never seen it worse than it is now
They should lower their excessively high expectations and standards. It's as simple as that. I'm quite sure that many coveted positions in the military didn't demand such elevated levels of skill and mental sharpness sixty years ago. If the ADF applied the same criteria today as they did during and shortly after the Vietnam War, there would hardly be anyone left to serve. Look... I acknowledge that it's a compact, expertly trained Defence Force. However, individuals from Generation Z and younger Millennials, including myself, won't enlist to occupy roles we don't find appealing.
Label me as a privileged Bratt if you wish, but I'm evidently not the only one who shares this perspective.
what ABC and the Chief of Defence force did recently to their soldiers, is why I, as an ex soldier spends any chance i get to ensure i let people know the mistake they are making, ive helped MANY over the last 12 months see the light..... proud of my work