Wait, okay, so are we garrote spamming during Dance like in the previous video, or are we using ambush? It looks like this was a re-upload but I want to make sure I have information squared away before tonight. Thanks
I noticed during the opener, when you dont get a blindside proc, there is a delay on the mutilate before SnD because of subterfuge dropping, is there any way to get around this?
I have to say garrote giving 5 combo points in the dance+deathmark window did feel too good to be true, but one can dream as it felt like the old Legion Mantle of the Master Assassin opener. Oh well! Thanks so much for the video, again!
Hey Whispyr, in your guide it say use envenom on 4+ but in your rotation you always pull up 6 combo points, or atleast if you have 4 you still mutilate again.. so should we only envenom on 5 or 6 CB? i thought the 4+ CB means to use envenom on 4,5 or 6 CB?
Thanks for the video, you're amazing! As for an opener using the M+ build with only 1 charge of shiv, do we want to use it following Deathmark or hold it until the last 7 seconds of Kingsbane?
Can you please tell me what I should do during kingsbane and shadow dance on aoe and single target. I’m not seeing it explained if you should spam garrote for aoe again like the opener to get many targets with bleeds on them or should I prioritize envenoms or is that only to maintian buff. I’m using a shadow dance/kingbane macro to guarantee it’s line up and empower. So yeah in aoe should i prioritize ruptures, garrote spam, or crimson tempest, or delay it until I use fan of knives to build combo points for tempest.
you always want to garrote once. In aoe you can garrote/rupture to spread them through carnage. Otherwise just normal priorities, mutilate/envenom in single target, fok/envenom in aoe
You can see echoing reprimand pops up at the end of his bar when he goes into stealth so he just copied the stealth bar to look exactly like his bottom bar.
@@Frederic_104 I actually figured out how to accomplish this with bartender but the problem is is that I lose cheap shot and I would need to rebind. Could I do something with a macro like if stealth then cheap shot, if no stealth then mutilate?
@@Frederic_104 figured it out. #showtooltip /cast [stealth] Cheap Shot; Mutilate Cheap Shot and Mutilate are interchangeable and can be whatever you want them to be.
@@Frederic_104 heres another for spammable sap when stealthed and garrote when not stealthed. #showtooltip /cleartarget /targetenemyplayer /cast [stance:1/3, harm, nodead]: [stealth] Sap; Garrote
that may be a very stupid question (i am a very new player to the game) how come when you press shadow dance that your whole lower bar doesnt change to stealth bar. cause it does for me and it leaves me with the option of only hitting ambush through half of the time instead of being able to use my envenom and so on.
Hey question here, does the DOT from internal bleeding add up to Kingsbane and/or benefit from nightstalker? Doesn’t that make it worth to cast in that shadow dance window so long as u don’t lose envenom buff uptime ?
with the old tier set on, is it worth it to open with deathmark to get the 40% poison buff asap? and then go into the shiv->dance->kingsbane combo whenever deathmark expires
Lol they fix this bug real quick but Sanguine Blades and the old tier set still break stealth smh, I wish they would do what they did with shadowblades and just make all your builders give full combo points while deathmark is active.
This dude really out here carrying the sin gamers on his back. Praydge for Whyispyr 🙏
Wait, okay, so are we garrote spamming during Dance like in the previous video, or are we using ambush? It looks like this was a re-upload but I want to make sure I have information squared away before tonight. Thanks
ambush@@manog2105 but reaply garrote once
@manog2105 garrote gaining 5cp during is a bug. It will eventually get fixed, so this new opener.
Oh whispyr
Thx for everything you do Whispyr.
Hiya!
Just wanna let you know how much I appreciate your videos! They have been such a huge help in switching to maining assassination this season.
Glad I could help!
Good stuff Whispyr ❤🔥
Thanks for the fast content and great videos
Appreciate you, Whispyr! Thank you for this.
Doing the Lord's Work
Thanks Whispyr
I noticed during the opener, when you dont get a blindside proc, there is a delay on the mutilate before SnD because of subterfuge dropping, is there any way to get around this?
same issue here
Typically only happens if you’re macroing bomb dispenser into stuff, subterfuge and bomb dispenser don’t like each other, otherwise no clue
I have to say garrote giving 5 combo points in the dance+deathmark window did feel too good to be true, but one can dream as it felt like the old Legion Mantle of the Master Assassin opener. Oh well! Thanks so much for the video, again!
The legion opening was so satisfying, so bad the 2mn CD burst is on gcd now :(
Yeah was a cool bug but now that it’s affecting rotation it had to get nuked
Nice one, thanks!
Thanks man, good job! 👍
Thank you :)
Thank you for your service @Whíspyr
Thanks for this
Thank you for everything that you do! What flavor of WA is that with the gradient energy bar and the flash of the abilities?
that would be my edit of afenar's weakaura, wago.io/p/whispyr
@@whispyr5793 Thank you. I appreciate the help.
Hey Whispyr, in your guide it say use envenom on 4+ but in your rotation you always pull up 6 combo points, or atleast if you have 4 you still mutilate again.. so should we only envenom on 5 or 6 CB? i thought the 4+ CB means to use envenom on 4,5 or 6 CB?
4, 5, or 6
I’ve definitely been refreshing Rupture in that shadow dance window 😅 great info!
Perfectly fine! Don’t feel bad about that
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Quick question Whispyr. When specifically do you recommend using Witherbark's Branch?
With Deathmark, delay picking up the last orb for a couple secodns
@@whispyr5793 thanks!
What do you use to track the spells cast on the bottom left that shows the combo points spent on the finisher?
that's some gcd tracking weakaura idk it's on wago somewhere
Thanks for the video, you're amazing!
As for an opener using the M+ build with only 1 charge of shiv, do we want to use it following Deathmark or hold it until the last 7 seconds of Kingsbane?
You’d want it for the last 7 but I generally wouldn’t suggest running a build with only 1 charge, that second charge is very good
@whispyr5793 Thank you for the reply. I will look at adjusting spec to get 2nd charge. Keep up the good work
Can you please tell me what I should do during kingsbane and shadow dance on aoe and single target. I’m not seeing it explained if you should spam garrote for aoe again like the opener to get many targets with bleeds on them or should I prioritize envenoms or is that only to maintian buff. I’m using a shadow dance/kingbane macro to guarantee it’s line up and empower. So yeah in aoe should i prioritize ruptures, garrote spam, or crimson tempest, or delay it until I use fan of knives to build combo points for tempest.
you always want to garrote once. In aoe you can garrote/rupture to spread them through carnage. Otherwise just normal priorities, mutilate/envenom in single target, fok/envenom in aoe
Don’t you Need to Refresh rupture in deathmark?
nope
Dumb question but how do you keep your bars from swapping to the stealth bar when in stealth/dance?
You can see echoing reprimand pops up at the end of his bar when he goes into stealth so he just copied the stealth bar to look exactly like his bottom bar.
@@Frederic_104 I actually figured out how to accomplish this with bartender but the problem is is that I lose cheap shot and I would need to rebind.
Could I do something with a macro like if stealth then cheap shot, if no stealth then mutilate?
@@SicariusGaming87 I would say you probably could. I wouldn't mind having that macro saved if you end up figuring that out
@@Frederic_104 figured it out.
#showtooltip
/cast [stealth] Cheap Shot; Mutilate
Cheap Shot and Mutilate are interchangeable and can be whatever you want them to be.
@@Frederic_104 heres another for spammable sap when stealthed and garrote when not stealthed.
#showtooltip
/cleartarget
/targetenemyplayer
/cast [stance:1/3, harm, nodead]: [stealth] Sap; Garrote
that may be a very stupid question (i am a very new player to the game) how come when you press shadow dance that your whole lower bar doesnt change to stealth bar. cause it does for me and it leaves me with the option of only hitting ambush through half of the time instead of being able to use my envenom and so on.
I have all the buttons set up the same, just go in stealth and drag the abilities into that bar
@@whispyr5793 thanks for taking the time. it was actually a stupid question but the answer was really what i needed cause i was slowly going insane :P
Hi Whispyr,
Would you recommend to use the first fast opener when PI by a SP (who generaly cant wait to PI like a healer priest) ?
kinda? you only really lose about 1% from that I wouldn't worry too much
Quick question why we are not deathmark in shadow dance?
Deathmarks bleed is super giga bad, would be a waste of a gcd
Hey question here, does the DOT from internal bleeding add up to Kingsbane and/or benefit from nightstalker? Doesn’t that make it worth to cast in that shadow dance window so long as u don’t lose envenom buff uptime ?
it adds to lethal dose and is benefitted from nightstalker. Still not worth it
with the old tier set on, is it worth it to open with deathmark to get the 40% poison buff asap? and then go into the shiv->dance->kingsbane combo whenever deathmark expires
Pretty sure you want deathmark running to duplicate poison applications and pumping Kingsbane through the roof
Doesn’t change anything
Cool beans
Im getting so many sims everywhere what spec is actually best for PVE and then PVP?
The one you play best
All of them🤣
andd were supposed to do all this while avoiding raid/m+ enemy mechanics.....😥
yes, we focus so much on rotation and now rip mechanics we gonna die on many situation.
Skill issue idk
It’s just a burst rotation every minute/2 minutes
Luckily on gnarl at least he's not immune during the intermission, just dr'd so you can prep dots before the burn
Yep
are u okay bro?
As a default, no
It’s pvp or pve guide?
Pve
Lol they fix this bug real quick but Sanguine Blades and the old tier set still break stealth smh, I wish they would do what they did with shadowblades and just make all your builders give full combo points while deathmark is active.
Deathmarks already insanely strong without it tbh
@whispyr5793 oh definitely I just really liked hitting envenom every other global lol
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