if it can dance after 50 years? the Reinforce for sure, though i also like the one from NT as i did not notice all the differences, i wonder if there are any other of that type?. Speaking off NT are you plannning a video the the Chivay-Class and variants?
The beam shield and other upgrades allowed Fed combined fleet to to take on way more modern fleet of Zanscare. Even the old Fed grunt MS with highly trained Fed pilots managed to trade blow more or less woth equal term with brand new BESPA MSs.
Man, what a great video, is always a pleasure to see the amount of information that you collect fot this videos. Keep working on, you will growth a lot with this quality
Nice analyse when looking at each cruisers , it must have taken along time to do this as well as the editing. I wonder how you get your sources for information. If you need any idea or suggestion, I say the development of minovsky particles (or minovsky physics in general) , how it was used and evolved throughout the UC timeline and how it changed warfare (for example Exam-System or Psycommu). I know it is used as an engine for mobile suits, but i don't understand how it disturbs radar and communication (when shown throughout the Battle of Loum in Origin).
Glad you enjoyed! I usually rely on the different MSV and official sources and sometimes on the japanese wiki. Minovsky Physiks is a difficult topic but I will try to cover it in time!
the only famous ship that didn't make the top clop-class vessel is the mother of all gundam-type mothership is the Ra Cailum, damn bright noa is the savior of the earth federation navy.
Okay, where the cover of what I assume is Standup to the Victory from as its rather catchy. Also you're doing well I've subbed and for what I assume isn't a native English speaker you're also doing very well on that front :)
Glad you gave the video a chance! The music you heard is actually the G Generation cover of Standup to Victory. As you guessed, I'm not a native English speaker since I'm French.
I hope we get a special episode on the Neil Argama and Dogoss Gier (General Rivel). Those are far and away my favourite ship designs in UC. whwre there any variants or extra ships of these two classes? it seems unliklly that the Neil Argama would be a Unique Design. ALSO the Spartan from MSG Thunderbolt is probably my second favourite ship after the Argama.
I don't think the Space Ark has a Minovsky Craft system, as it wouldn't need it to operate inside a colony. After all, we see a Space Boat able to do it, not to mention all the mobile suits. As long as it could provide enough upward thrust to get off the surface of the colony, it should be able to easily desync with the rotation of the colony and be able to "float". Any space ship should be able to do this. I always assumed that they just don't do this often because it's a little dangerous and would be pretty disorienting, having the colony rotating around you.
I support this but it's almost confirmed now the Space Ark has one. In Victory Gundam in the Episode "Reinforce takeoff" , there is a green Space Ark escorting the Reinforce (and get wrecked off screen alongside the Salamis Kais) which launch from sea to Space without additional boosters. Considering the Salamis Kai there were refits (so with Minovsky Craft) and the Reinforce also had one (which was inherited by the Reinforce Jr) , it's pretty much confirmed this Space Ark at least had it.
@@gundamfacts I just watched the episode to check this out, as I didn't remember ever seeing a Salamis floating, and we don't here. Like why would they be in the ocean if they can just float in the air with their craft system? And the Salamis Kai definitely have more thrusters in the back then we normally see them (it's similar to the 0083 refit config, with 4 thrusters), they're a different shade of green from the rest of the ships. It's notable, because the Salamis we I see burning up in the atmosphere a minute later does not have that thruster configuration. And they don't have those in other episodes I glanced at either And why would the Reinforce, a modified Clop-class, need a tug anyway? You'd think a significantly newer ship design would have it's own minovsky craft system. Is there another episode we clearly see Salamis Kais in atmosphere floating? The only source I see saying it has a MCS is Gundam Wiki, which I always view with a grain of salt.
@@scythedd7 okay so different things. - Japanese sources all support the new ships including Salamis Kai having MCS. In the final episodes (see 15:01), we see Salamis floating in the atmosphere alongside the Jeanne D'arc. If they didn't had a MCS they couldn't fight in such situation. - Another thing is that none of the Salamis departing Belfast is equipped with the original booster used to reach space from Earth. Yeah the thrusters are better in the Kai but Sentinel confirmed they need the same booster since they lack MCS. - Why in the water? Well most probably because they don't have landing gears. In ZZ the Salahdan and Endras (which all have MCS) pretty much always land on water so it's not a strech to say its better to have them land there than on solid Ground since it would require additional modifications to be made (plus you can't apply these modifications to the Clop and Ra Cailum so why just on the Salamis)
@@gundamfacts that's a good catch with the one by the ra-calium class. But the Salamis definitely have a different thruster package then the standard in episode 14 of V, like they doesn't match the one in that very example. They're generally have one big one and two on the side, but the ones being used as "tugboats" have four large additional ones. And I don't really like the lack of landing gear explanation. Going through the effort of adding what I imagine is a rather complex and integrated system like a mcs but then not bothering to put some hydrologic feet on so it can land seems...questionable. And we know for a fact the Space Ark also in that scene does have landing gear unless it was stripped for some reason. Probably more energy efficient, I guess. Makes me wonder what they're using for propulsion.
One of the problems that has been bugging me is how did the Zancare troops land on Earth. It took Zeon a major fleet battle to significantly damage the federation space fleet so they could invade Earth. It took a civil war to weaken the feds enough so axis could slip in and invade Earth. Char could only drop asteroids, Crossbone vanguard couldn't even get out of side 4. Even the Jupiter Empire had to con the feds or use special units to get close to Earth. How comes the yellow jackets were already on Earth before Victory even started? Also, I couldn't agree more with your comments on Gundam NT. General Revil is such an underused ship. Back in Z, Dogosgia was literally too big to sink. In NT it was like the villain snapped his finger and General Revil was gone. I was like WTF? All the cool background and for what?
From what the MSV and Crossbone explain, the reason why Zanscare was even able to land is because that far in UC, the EFSF is a slowpoke to move and the EFGF is too centralized (they have very few garrisons left, but the few left are just nighmarish to even consider assaulting, like the new California base being able to withstand direct attacks from Colony lasers and Colony drops without being damaged). Even in the early Crossbone series, there aren't regular ship patrols anymore around Earth, just few automatic armed satellites left, so it explain how Zanscare was able to land first in Europa, and later in the series in North America
The Reinforce Jr is a particular case for the following reason: while it reuse most of the original Reinforce, the chassis is mostly based on the captured Squid-class, and according to a Zanscare soldier the internal hangars are closer to one. Add to that that it also reuse parts from the Gaunland and you have the Reinforce Jr being more of a Squid variant than a Clopp variant
Carry base is mostly a repainted Space Ark, and it also doesn't fit in the regular UC continuity as it is exclusive to the multi universe story of G Generation.
@@gundamfacts Technically it was an UC only ship as the first games it appeared in had only UC setting. But it really is only a repainted Space Ark, even its stats are the same in most games.
@@YuiYuria i have to agree with you there. Honestly this video is an exhaustive list, but I didn't covered much the Bladewood, Fairchild and others similar one of a kind very minor Clop variations so I might do a second part video for them
Generally speaking by all known laws of physics it is pretty much impossible to radiate heat faster by any means other than more surface area. Gundam definitely doesn't work on real physics rules though,
Actually as a Phys/Chem student i witnessed cases where you can improve cooling systems by coupling newer systems with different materials for the cooling surface
@@gundamfacts In vacuum though? No matter how fast you can move heat from the gun into the radiator which the materials 100%CAN help with, getting it from the radiator out into space was I thought almost completely locked at a steady trickle.
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And you? Which Clop variant would you like to crew?
A Reinforce, its a good, well balanced design capable of fulfilling a number of mission profiles.
if it can dance after 50 years? the Reinforce for sure, though i also like the one from NT as i did not notice all the differences, i wonder if there are any other of that type?. Speaking off NT are you plannning a video the the Chivay-Class and variants?
When will you do the musai.
Did the feddies just name a ship poop?!
The beam shield and other upgrades allowed Fed combined fleet to to take on way more modern fleet of Zanscare.
Even the old Fed grunt MS with highly trained Fed pilots managed to trade blow more or less woth equal term with brand new BESPA MSs.
The Murabak Fleet did the job well honestly!
A reliable mobile suit and a skilled pilot can go head to head with even the most technologically advanced mobile suit.
I wish more people focused on spaceships in Gundam, thank you for this wonderful video, super interesting!
Glad you liked! Interested in any variants series of another ship line?
@@gundamfacts Musai-class and it’s developments like the Endra-class!!
Man, what a great video, is always a pleasure to see the amount of information that you collect fot this videos. Keep working on, you will growth a lot with this quality
Thanks for the unrelenting support, these kind of comments are the real fuel of this channel
Fantastic, my respect for this ship series is even higher now!!
The Clop deserves it
Nicely done. Can't wait for the lore videos on the Pegasus class and Ra Cailum class
Nice analyse when looking at each cruisers , it must have taken along time to do this as well as the editing. I wonder how you get your sources for information. If you need any idea or suggestion, I say the development of minovsky particles (or minovsky physics in general) , how it was used and evolved throughout the UC timeline and how it changed warfare (for example Exam-System or Psycommu). I know it is used as an engine for mobile suits, but i don't understand how it disturbs radar and communication (when shown throughout the Battle of Loum in Origin).
Glad you enjoyed! I usually rely on the different MSV and official sources and sometimes on the japanese wiki. Minovsky Physiks is a difficult topic but I will try to cover it in time!
the only famous ship that didn't make the top clop-class vessel is the mother of all gundam-type mothership is the Ra Cailum, damn bright noa is the savior of the earth federation navy.
The Ra-Cailum is a Ra-Cailum class ship, (yea I know it’s been 2 years)
That's a nice explanation of the minovsky craft system.
i hope i made it clearer
@@gundamfacts it looks very clear.
Quality video as always
Solid Vid, got to love the Fed ship designs.
Okay, where the cover of what I assume is Standup to the Victory from as its rather catchy.
Also you're doing well I've subbed and for what I assume isn't a native English speaker you're also doing very well on that front :)
Glad you gave the video a chance! The music you heard is actually the G Generation cover of Standup to Victory. As you guessed, I'm not a native English speaker since I'm French.
Why is it called the clop class? I know the lead ship was named the ra-clop but they never explained the name
I hope we get a special episode on the Neil Argama and Dogoss Gier (General Rivel). Those are far and away my favourite ship designs in UC. whwre there any variants or extra ships of these two classes? it seems unliklly that the Neil Argama would be a Unique Design. ALSO the Spartan from MSG Thunderbolt is probably my second favourite ship after the Argama.
Dogosse Gier should come after Zanzibar
Hey I’m 808gundambuilder from IG. You have made another great video. 👍
I like your videos, I need to know how many ms the space ark can carry
I would like to see the Colombus and Magaellian class histories
I will cover both of them in time. What about Magellan first?
UC is always an interesting timeline
I don't think the Space Ark has a Minovsky Craft system, as it wouldn't need it to operate inside a colony. After all, we see a Space Boat able to do it, not to mention all the mobile suits. As long as it could provide enough upward thrust to get off the surface of the colony, it should be able to easily desync with the rotation of the colony and be able to "float". Any space ship should be able to do this. I always assumed that they just don't do this often because it's a little dangerous and would be pretty disorienting, having the colony rotating around you.
I support this but it's almost confirmed now the Space Ark has one. In Victory Gundam in the Episode "Reinforce takeoff" , there is a green Space Ark escorting the Reinforce (and get wrecked off screen alongside the Salamis Kais) which launch from sea to Space without additional boosters. Considering the Salamis Kai there were refits (so with Minovsky Craft) and the Reinforce also had one (which was inherited by the Reinforce Jr) , it's pretty much confirmed this Space Ark at least had it.
@@gundamfacts I just watched the episode to check this out, as I didn't remember ever seeing a Salamis floating, and we don't here. Like why would they be in the ocean if they can just float in the air with their craft system? And the Salamis Kai definitely have more thrusters in the back then we normally see them (it's similar to the 0083 refit config, with 4 thrusters), they're a different shade of green from the rest of the ships. It's notable, because the Salamis we I see burning up in the atmosphere a minute later does not have that thruster configuration. And they don't have those in other episodes I glanced at either And why would the Reinforce, a modified Clop-class, need a tug anyway? You'd think a significantly newer ship design would have it's own minovsky craft system. Is there another episode we clearly see Salamis Kais in atmosphere floating?
The only source I see saying it has a MCS is Gundam Wiki, which I always view with a grain of salt.
@@scythedd7 okay so different things.
- Japanese sources all support the new ships including Salamis Kai having MCS. In the final episodes (see 15:01), we see Salamis floating in the atmosphere alongside the Jeanne D'arc. If they didn't had a MCS they couldn't fight in such situation.
- Another thing is that none of the Salamis departing Belfast is equipped with the original booster used to reach space from Earth. Yeah the thrusters are better in the Kai but Sentinel confirmed they need the same booster since they lack MCS.
- Why in the water? Well most probably because they don't have landing gears. In ZZ the Salahdan and Endras (which all have MCS) pretty much always land on water so it's not a strech to say its better to have them land there than on solid Ground since it would require additional modifications to be made (plus you can't apply these modifications to the Clop and Ra Cailum so why just on the Salamis)
@@gundamfacts that's a good catch with the one by the ra-calium class. But the Salamis definitely have a different thruster package then the standard in episode 14 of V, like they doesn't match the one in that very example. They're generally have one big one and two on the side, but the ones being used as "tugboats" have four large additional ones.
And I don't really like the lack of landing gear explanation. Going through the effort of adding what I imagine is a rather complex and integrated system like a mcs but then not bothering to put some hydrologic feet on so it can land seems...questionable. And we know for a fact the Space Ark also in that scene does have landing gear unless it was stripped for some reason. Probably more energy efficient, I guess. Makes me wonder what they're using for propulsion.
One of the problems that has been bugging me is how did the Zancare troops land on Earth. It took Zeon a major fleet battle to significantly damage the federation space fleet so they could invade Earth. It took a civil war to weaken the feds enough so axis could slip in and invade Earth. Char could only drop asteroids, Crossbone vanguard couldn't even get out of side 4. Even the Jupiter Empire had to con the feds or use special units to get close to Earth. How comes the yellow jackets were already on Earth before Victory even started?
Also, I couldn't agree more with your comments on Gundam NT. General Revil is such an underused ship. Back in Z, Dogosgia was literally too big to sink. In NT it was like the villain snapped his finger and General Revil was gone. I was like WTF? All the cool background and for what?
From what the MSV and Crossbone explain, the reason why Zanscare was even able to land is because that far in UC, the EFSF is a slowpoke to move and the EFGF is too centralized (they have very few garrisons left, but the few left are just nighmarish to even consider assaulting, like the new California base being able to withstand direct attacks from Colony lasers and Colony drops without being damaged). Even in the early Crossbone series, there aren't regular ship patrols anymore around Earth, just few automatic armed satellites left, so it explain how Zanscare was able to land first in Europa, and later in the series in North America
@@gundamfacts Wait what? Where do they establish THAT level of fortification?
What show or movie does the sequence of the Clop firing its weapons you use at 1:58 and elsewhere come from?
It is from the F91 movie
Is the Carry Base from the SD Gun dam games a Clip type?
Yup, it's a repainted White Ark-class
Next video about Gundam ship.... discuss about Ra Cailum development history please
I’m digging this channel so far. However I’d like to ask is the narrator speak German as a first language?
That or a border nation! Also good use of mems
Im actually from the baguette side!
@@gundamfacts based on your accent I was thinking Luxembourg
I love Newtypes and their abilities but narrative SUCKED.
You think you could make a video on the salamis class
in time i will. The Salamis video lost the poll against the Ra Cailum video, ence why it was made first
great vid
but, i prefer Alexandria class
What about the Reinforce Jr?
The Reinforce Jr is a particular case for the following reason: while it reuse most of the original Reinforce, the chassis is mostly based on the captured Squid-class, and according to a Zanscare soldier the internal hangars are closer to one. Add to that that it also reuse parts from the Gaunland and you have the Reinforce Jr being more of a Squid variant than a Clopp variant
What about the Carry Base from the G Gundam Generation Games?
Carry base is mostly a repainted Space Ark, and it also doesn't fit in the regular UC continuity as it is exclusive to the multi universe story of G Generation.
@@gundamfacts Technically it was an UC only ship as the first games it appeared in had only UC setting. But it really is only a repainted Space Ark, even its stats are the same in most games.
@@YuiYuria i have to agree with you there. Honestly this video is an exhaustive list, but I didn't covered much the Bladewood, Fairchild and others similar one of a kind very minor Clop variations so I might do a second part video for them
@@gundamfacts You did a wonderful list, I just wondered about the Carry Base.
Generally speaking by all known laws of physics it is pretty much impossible to radiate heat faster by any means other than more surface area. Gundam definitely doesn't work on real physics rules though,
Actually as a Phys/Chem student i witnessed cases where you can improve cooling systems by coupling newer systems with different materials for the cooling surface
@@gundamfacts In vacuum though? No matter how fast you can move heat from the gun into the radiator which the materials 100%CAN help with, getting it from the radiator out into space was I thought almost completely locked at a steady trickle.