I had to go through a Ministry teacher who was teaching me the Bible in a class for leadership in the Church. Who choose to have set with one of his students. I had to go through the process of what happens when a trusted leader falls. The good think was the Church did not hide it from us. He was remove from his position immediately and helped to find another job. Later he was restored to the Church community, but not his past position. I think it hurts more when the Church hides the sin instead of exposing and dealing with the situation.
I really appreciate both of you having this conversation. I honestly have reached a point where I no longer trust many pastors, teachers, evangelists, etc in the Evangelical church. I felt they were just stringing us along, not living what they were preaching. All this while telling us we were going to hell for our sins. I have prayed for many but still don't trust. I appreciate your perspective and acknowledgment that there are those of us out there who have been hurt by what is going on. I am getting past this and I will admit that it has drawn me closer to God in that I really find myself searching scripture more for myself to verify what people are saying.
It's only in the Holy Bible. Yes, his spirit lives in us but we are only man. Every single one of us. The God man is at the right hand of the Father on the throne meaning no man here can represent CHRIST. Only the Holy Bible can. Hallelujah!
Thank you both for your hearts! My heart has been broken at the condemning words that people want to say is God. We are permitted to judge their actions, but even that is through love and prayer. But to gossip and condemn is not from the Lord. I pray for those who operate in this negative spirit to have a revelation of Gods true heart and message. His mercy and grace has been given to all of us! No one God used was perfect in all their ways. Things will be very difficult for those who have fallen into deception. We have all fallen but His Grace is sufficient. Love conquers…that name is Christ 💕
You’re right 🌋 It’s not for the Un Renewed one 🥁 That the knowledge of God from God would result into a willingness of deliberate action towards God from knowing God that would cause a renewal of the mind unto God and would take place🌋 Teach for the new ones signed up are ready to be prepared I pray ⛲️ Teach to reach by way of Holy Spirit ☀️♥️❤️🔥 May our Father God who is our Creator 🌱 receive the reward of His creation with delight 🎶 I pray 🌋
Powerful and authentic. I was driving with Corey in January in the midst of the fog. He walked through and didn’t slander and gossip. He’s a true Father to this generation of emerging leaders who long for authenticity,
@Matthew7Bible Yes I hear so much about gossip but why not justice? Justice is a foundation of His throne. Slander must be a false statement so what about all the TRUE statements about SA and corruption? What about righteously standing up publicly for that?
This message bleeds Gods mercy and hope in the journey of the church healing. I love what God is saying through these men of God. God bless you both. Thank you Jeremiah for this amazing platform.
Amen. Corey’s ministry has been extremely influential in my life over the last year and half. Teach Us to Pray opened up even further the language I was experiencing in intimacy with the Lord. Ever since I point people in his direction. Praise God ! I have been hearing the same this last year to go low. ♥️
I heard this morning from the Holy Spirit that the church or people in general are not THE enemy, the enemy is. They can be used by him but they can be redeemed but the enemy cannot .
Grateful you are willing to bring this to the table when most ministers want to brush it under the rug. Thank you for handling it with Grace and integrity. My heart resonates with what you’re saying about being on the precipice of harvest. Everything that can be shaken, will be shaken, and only the unshakable church will remain.
Thank y’all for also sharing how people being removed is not the Lord abandoning them. He loves them to no end and still wants to draw them close if they repent. It all boils down to relationship
[NKJV] (Psalms 51:12-13, 17 ) [12] Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, And uphold me by Your generous Spirit. [13] Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners shall be converted to You. [17] The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart- These, O God, You will not despise.
A lot of the new guard is unfortunately under the same spirit, coerced in silencing abuse and a good number of new perpetrators steadily rising and being celebrated by the charismatic system. If only people knew the kind of cases being suppressed.
Bang on word! I got shown exactly that early this year and the previous years, rebuilt comes after a demolition. In fact, many need to be re-discipled because they are not discipled correctly
We need to let God do what needs to be done, so much hurt and deception caused by fallen leaders. We need to pray also, search me oh God, my heart, my mind, my eyes, my ears, my lips, are they clean humble and holy before you!
Feeling the pain of king Jesus recently when he took the final blow on the cross😢 when the warter and blood poored out!! I feel like it has somthing to do with the woman coming from the side of Adam! Feeling the pain of our sin through the cross is seemingly bringing epitome,of humility! What he went through for us ! Corey Russel I feel very connected to you through your testimony” mine was similar” and I also felt vey connected to bob jones prophecy! Question! Do you know what happened to the letter that was written when Bob was in the hospital the last time epitome,? I was born 83 and came to know the love of God in 2011 I recently came back to life after trying to live like Christ but was doing it all wrong and barely hanging on! God bless you brothers!!
So many poor souls do not fear the Lord and we must meet them where they are because they are not coming as they are! In JESUS name Hallelujah! CHRIST wasn't in the churches; he was walking the streets seeking out the suffering Hallelujah!
I'd love to hear you address believers trying to uproot tares and taking it upon themselves to "expose" people rather than allow God to expose them. This is very important. I thought Jesus was pretty clear about not wanting us to uproot tares, but people in the church are ignoring this. Everyone thinks their situation is the exception.
Sometimes God uses “His people” to expose, since we are His feet, His hands, His mouthpiece in the earth. Ephesians 5:11- Do not participate in the worthless and unproductive deeds of darkness, but instead expose them [by exemplifying personal integrity, moral courage, and godly character]; Exemplifying is more than just speaking..plus, It takes a lot of courage to expose. More often everyone hides! 🙈🙊🙉 Rev. 21:8 - speaks about cowards .. we must stand for Truth 🙏
@JLeeladee That Ephesians verse you quoted is usually the one verse people use to justify blasting Christians in the public forum, but what about verse 12 of Ephesians 5? "for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret." Ephesians 5:12 Clearly, if verse 12 is saying it's disgraceful to even speak about, why would God tell us to speak about it? I don't think verse 11 is saying what people think it's saying. It's not a green light to make videos about fellow believers for millions of believers and nonbelievers to see. I have a hard time seeing Jesus doing that. Love covers over a multitude of sins. Anyone can be a critic. In fact, nowadays, critics are anything but rare. It doesn't take any courage to slam someone. It takes courage to reserve judgment, hold our tongue, and trust God to expose things with His light.
When we speak about “restoration “ to a fallen leader I believe we have it backwards. Since we love our celebrity leaders the first restoration I hear of is “ministry”. This should be the last thing restored if it should even be restored. The first restoration that should take place is between the fallen leader and their relationship with the Lord. The second should be to their spouse (if possible) and immediate family. The third should be with the local body (and not in ministry). Let them get a regular job and be a pew sitter. As they build trust in all these areas this person is being restored. IMO if this person can walk this line for a decade then talks should begin about some major safeguards in accountability if it ever happens. In also want to say we “pew sitters” do not help them because we do not demand stiff accountabilities and we hold them up so high like a celebrity. We do not help them to walk in humility and transparency.
Amen. . Lord we need the 7 spirits of the lord...most. the holy spirit and the fear if the lord....i release it now to all nations my father in Jesus name for the body of Christ...take now your church and show us Jesus how a Jesus ministry looks like directly from heaven......amen....
In October 2020 the Lord told me that He was going to be exposing and removing platforms of ministry and church leadership that don't represent him He emphasized Be ready to minister to the people that will be shell shocked as all the truth comes out My heart is for those that will struggle about maybe leaving the Lord through the process that is unfolding. Father in Jesus Powerful Name help us all to keep our eyes on You and not on ministers and their leaders
Jeremiah 1:10 Know for certain that I hereby give you the authority to announce to nations and kingdoms that they will be: 1- uprooted and torn down, 2-destroyed and demolished, 3-REBUILT and firmly planted. Daystar should consider this ☝️ God will clean up and clean out.. without the celebrities please, 🙏 Jesus is the only “celebrity” ✝️
Immensely grateful for you both, but I’ve been disappointed in both of you for not being more vocal for victims as Allen Hood has. I feel you’ve tried to have it both ways. It has really saddened me.
You have to understand God wants us to tread lightly with our words when there's an issue in the body. Slander and gossip are very easy to get pulled into. I guarantee these two men both have strong feelings about what was uncovered. We just don't know what was said behind closed doors. I think God's heart would rather it be this way, especially regarding a leader in the body of Christ. There's too much at stake. It's for the sake of the whole. Unity in the love of Jesus is paramount.
Guys. You need to stop and reevaluate a lot deeper. Its not just going on with the bulk of what they taught and just addressing 3-5 areas. Trust me as one who has dealt with international corruption in our hypercharismatic circles. This touches nearly everyone at so many levels beyond what you guys see and know today. Its a spirit from Dowie and Branham on down and lest you really reevaluate the tree you are grafting people into… the fruit will not change.
Why don’t you publicly repent from aiding and abetting Chad in the Garden Greenville Jeremiah, as well as your awkward stance on the side of Joni Lamb. Dr. Brown connection is awkward too. I don’t mind that you get things wrong and strengthen their abusive narratives as long as you publicly make it right in true humility.
Oh yeah 💎
On the precipice of harvest 🌋
I had to go through a Ministry teacher who was teaching me the Bible in a class for leadership in the Church. Who choose to have set with one of his students.
I had to go through the process of what happens when a trusted leader falls. The good think was the Church did not hide it from us.
He was remove from his position immediately and helped to find another job. Later he was restored to the Church community, but not his past position. I think it hurts more when the Church hides the sin instead of exposing and dealing with the situation.
I really appreciate both of you having this conversation. I honestly have reached a point where I no longer trust many pastors, teachers, evangelists, etc in the Evangelical church. I felt they were just stringing us along, not living what they were preaching. All this while telling us we were going to hell for our sins. I have prayed for many but still don't trust. I appreciate your perspective and acknowledgment that there are those of us out there who have been hurt by what is going on. I am getting past this and I will admit that it has drawn me closer to God in that I really find myself searching scripture more for myself to verify what people are saying.
It's only in the Holy Bible. Yes, his spirit lives in us but we are only man. Every single one of us. The God man is at the right hand of the Father on the throne meaning no man here can represent CHRIST. Only the Holy Bible can. Hallelujah!
Thank you both for your hearts! My heart has been broken at the condemning words that people want to say is God. We are permitted to judge their actions, but even that is through love and prayer. But to gossip and condemn is not from the Lord. I pray for those who operate in this negative spirit to have a revelation of Gods true heart and message. His mercy and grace has been given to all of us! No one God used was perfect in all their ways. Things will be very difficult for those who have fallen into deception. We have all fallen but His Grace is sufficient. Love conquers…that name is Christ 💕
Wow! The wheat & tares...the tares stand and the wheat bends!! This is SO profound!!
You’re right 🌋
It’s not for the
Un Renewed one 🥁
That the knowledge of God from God would result into a willingness of deliberate action towards God from knowing God that would cause a renewal of the mind unto God and would take place🌋
Teach for the new ones signed up are ready to be prepared I pray ⛲️
Teach to reach by way of Holy Spirit
☀️♥️❤️🔥
May our Father God who is our Creator 🌱 receive the reward of His creation with delight 🎶
I pray 🌋
Powerful and authentic. I was driving with Corey in January in the midst of the fog. He walked through and didn’t slander and gossip. He’s a true Father to this generation of emerging leaders who long for authenticity,
@Matthew7Bible Yes I hear so much about gossip but why not justice? Justice is a foundation of His throne. Slander must be a false statement so what about all the TRUE statements about SA and corruption? What about righteously standing up publicly for that?
This message bleeds Gods mercy and hope in the journey of the church healing. I love what God is saying through these men of God. God bless you both.
Thank you Jeremiah for this amazing platform.
Jeremiah and Corey are real deal. Godly and humble men
100% Thank you for addressing this. God has a remnant and He is equipping and building back up HIS Church!
grateful to hear this- yes - fear of the Lord restored and harvest- help us find the door on the floor Lord.
Thank you Jeremiah for introducing the church with the ministry of Corey Russell. A great voice of hope.
Amen. Corey’s ministry has been extremely influential in my life over the last year and half. Teach Us to Pray opened up even further the language I was experiencing in intimacy with the Lord. Ever since I point people in his direction. Praise God ! I have been hearing the same this last year to go low. ♥️
Thank you and I honor you both for being the Voice of Healthy for the Lord and for the family ✝️
I heard this morning from the Holy Spirit that the church or people in general are not THE enemy, the enemy is. They can be used by him but they can be redeemed but the enemy cannot .
Amen! I agree!!🙌🙏
Such deep clarity and revelation knowledge!
Thank you so much for the confirmation!
Grateful you are willing to bring this to the table when most ministers want to brush it under the rug. Thank you for handling it with Grace and integrity. My heart resonates with what you’re saying about being on the precipice of harvest. Everything that can be shaken, will be shaken, and only the unshakable church will remain.
THIS is soooo good! I also know & believe He is building His Ekklesia! Thank you both!
Thank y’all for also sharing how people being removed is not the Lord abandoning them. He loves them to no end and still wants to draw them close if they repent. It all boils down to relationship
Right on time ty Jesus and ty brothers 🙏 🙌 may God bless you and keep you 🙏 amen
What a time to be alive!
Wow, thank you so much! So good to see both of you to rock hard with God! The humility of the trailblazers. I bless you.
Bless you brothers!❤
Excellent! Thank you both
Love Corey!
[NKJV]
(Psalms 51:12-13, 17 )
[12] Restore to me the joy of Your salvation, And uphold me by Your generous Spirit. [13] Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners shall be converted to You.
[17] The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, A broken and a contrite heart- These, O God, You will not despise.
The changing of the guard.
A lot of the new guard is unfortunately under the same spirit, coerced in silencing abuse and a good number of new perpetrators steadily rising and being celebrated by the charismatic system. If only people knew the kind of cases being suppressed.
Bang on word! I got shown exactly that early this year and the previous years, rebuilt comes after a demolition. In fact, many need to be re-discipled because they are not discipled correctly
We need to let God do what needs to be done, so much hurt and deception caused by fallen leaders. We need to pray also, search me oh God, my heart, my mind, my eyes, my ears, my lips, are they clean humble and holy before you!
so good about not just relating on the giftings
Feeling the pain of king Jesus recently when he took the final blow on the cross😢 when the warter and blood poored out!! I feel like it has somthing to do with the woman coming from the side of Adam! Feeling the pain of our sin through the cross is seemingly bringing epitome,of humility! What he went through for us ! Corey Russel I feel very connected to you through your testimony” mine was similar” and I also felt vey connected to bob jones prophecy! Question! Do you know what happened to the letter that was written when Bob was in the hospital the last time epitome,? I was born 83 and came to know the love of God in 2011 I recently came back to life after trying to live like Christ but was doing it all wrong and barely hanging on! God bless you brothers!!
Powerful,thankyou!!💫
So many poor souls do not fear the Lord and we must meet them where they are because they are not coming as they are! In JESUS name Hallelujah! CHRIST wasn't in the churches; he was walking the streets seeking out the suffering Hallelujah!
I'd love to hear you address believers trying to uproot tares and taking it upon themselves to "expose" people rather than allow God to expose them. This is very important. I thought Jesus was pretty clear about not wanting us to uproot tares, but people in the church are ignoring this. Everyone thinks their situation is the exception.
Sometimes God uses “His people” to expose, since we are His feet, His hands, His mouthpiece in the earth.
Ephesians 5:11- Do not participate in the worthless and unproductive deeds of darkness, but instead expose them [by exemplifying personal integrity, moral courage, and godly character];
Exemplifying is more than just speaking..plus,
It takes a lot of courage to expose. More often everyone hides! 🙈🙊🙉
Rev. 21:8 - speaks about
cowards ..
we must stand for Truth 🙏
@JLeeladee That Ephesians verse you quoted is usually the one verse people use to justify blasting Christians in the public forum, but what about verse 12 of Ephesians 5?
"for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret." Ephesians 5:12
Clearly, if verse 12 is saying it's disgraceful to even speak about, why would God tell us to speak about it? I don't think verse 11 is saying what people think it's saying. It's not a green light to make videos about fellow believers for millions of believers and nonbelievers to see. I have a hard time seeing Jesus doing that. Love covers over a multitude of sins. Anyone can be a critic. In fact, nowadays, critics are anything but rare. It doesn't take any courage to slam someone. It takes courage to reserve judgment, hold our tongue, and trust God to expose things with His light.
Amen
When we speak about “restoration “ to a fallen leader I believe we have it backwards. Since we love our celebrity leaders the first restoration I hear of is “ministry”. This should be the last thing restored if it should even be restored. The first restoration that should take place is between the fallen leader and their relationship with the Lord. The second should be to their spouse (if possible) and immediate family. The third should be with the local body (and not in ministry). Let them get a regular job and be a pew sitter. As they build trust in all these areas this person is being restored. IMO if this person can walk this line for a decade then talks should begin about some major safeguards in accountability if it ever happens.
In also want to say we “pew sitters” do not help them because we do not demand stiff accountabilities and we hold them up so high like a celebrity. We do not help them to walk in humility and transparency.
Pew
Amen. . Lord we need the 7 spirits of the lord...most. the holy spirit and the fear if the lord....i release it now to all nations my father in Jesus name for the body of Christ...take now your church and show us Jesus how a Jesus ministry looks like directly from heaven......amen....
In October 2020 the Lord told me that He was going to be exposing and removing platforms of ministry and church leadership that don't represent him
He emphasized
Be ready to minister to the people that will be shell shocked as all the truth comes out
My heart is for those that will struggle about maybe leaving the Lord through the process that is unfolding.
Father in Jesus Powerful Name help us all to keep our eyes on You and not on ministers and their leaders
❤hallelujah
Здравствуйте ,спасибо Вам ,спасибо за ястность
🙌🏼❤️🔥😭
Jeremiah, please make a statement about Daystar .
Jeremiah 1:10
Know for certain that I hereby give you the authority to announce to nations and kingdoms that they will be:
1- uprooted and torn down,
2-destroyed and demolished,
3-REBUILT and firmly planted.
Daystar should consider this ☝️
God will clean up and clean out..
without the celebrities please, 🙏
Jesus is the only “celebrity” ✝️
Immensely grateful for you both, but I’ve been disappointed in both of you for not being more vocal for victims as Allen Hood has. I feel you’ve tried to have it both ways. It has really saddened me.
Huggs
You have to understand God wants us to tread lightly with our words when there's an issue in the body. Slander and gossip are very easy to get pulled into. I guarantee these two men both have strong feelings about what was uncovered. We just don't know what was said behind closed doors. I think God's heart would rather it be this way, especially regarding a leader in the body of Christ. There's too much at stake. It's for the sake of the whole. Unity in the love of Jesus is paramount.
Guys. You need to stop and reevaluate a lot deeper. Its not just going on with the bulk of what they taught and just addressing 3-5 areas. Trust me as one who has dealt with international corruption in our hypercharismatic circles. This touches nearly everyone at so many levels beyond what you guys see and know today. Its a spirit from Dowie and Branham on down and lest you really reevaluate the tree you are grafting people into… the fruit will not change.
Why don’t you publicly repent from aiding and abetting Chad in the Garden Greenville Jeremiah, as well as your awkward stance on the side of Joni Lamb. Dr. Brown connection is awkward too.
I don’t mind that you get things wrong and strengthen their abusive narratives as long as you publicly make it right in true humility.