Pioneer DJ CDJ 3000 vs Denon DJ SC6000 - Time stretch test. Which one Sounds Better?

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  • Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
  • In this video I'll compare the time stretching ability between the Pioneer DJ CDJ-3000 and the Denon DJ SC6000M to see which one sounds best.

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  • @Basti791000
    @Basti791000 Рік тому +6

    I started with Pioneer DJ & at last I bought the Denon DJ SC6000M.
    I have absolutely no regrets. Listening to music is more fun now than ever before.

  • @risquedj
    @risquedj Рік тому +19

    The 3000s are the LAST pair of CDJs I will likely buy. Unless Alpha-Theta REALLY step it up, it's apparent to me that Denon really do have the upper hand.
    I owned SC6000s...sold them for 3000s, but then bought a single SC6000M just to stay appraised to what the competition is doing. In the short year that I relinquished
    my SC6000s, Denon has addressed nearly every shortcoming they had that pushed me towards to the 3000. I can only imagine how DOPE the SC7000 will be compared to the 3000NXS.
    Denon's "long-game" strategy is panning out. They are seeking to bring the Software/DVS experience to the standalone market. Pioneer DJ are leagues behind.

    • @djrozzi8794
      @djrozzi8794 Рік тому +2

      When the prime denon series entered, the pioneer was crushed, which is about 6 years ago and they have a very big advantage. Others have the habits of a pioneer and it blindly loses them...

    • @robinghosh2109
      @robinghosh2109 9 місяців тому

      I wonder when the SC7000 is coming out

    • @harveyspecter1653
      @harveyspecter1653 2 місяці тому

      @@robinghosh2109 What would a 7000 possibly add that the 6000 can't do? You have a massive screen and a great software platform. The size is perfect. An even bigger player would be too much, at least for me. They might add some sales blah like better digital components like DACs but you wouldn't hear a thing of difference. On paper the Pioneer's DACs are quite a lot better than Denon's. Do you hear any difference? I sure don't. In this test here above imo the Pioneer sounds like an old Akai sampler. Mechanical, clunky. I feel the Denon sounds a lot better on the time stretching thing but I would respect anyone else's opinion. But maybe Denon will surpruse us with an SC7000 having an AI chip installed that analyzes your sets and at some point is able to grab new tracks from Beatport matching your style, and play a set all by itself. So you can install a doll bahind the decks, go out and have a blast in the crowd and still collect your money 😀

  • @mardyj
    @mardyj Рік тому +10

    Got to agree with you. I always thought denon claiming the best in class time stretching was just marketing, but at least when compared to pioneer it seems to be true. To me it’s about the transients such as the beat, it’s cleaner and clearer on the denon

  • @jemmanuellrt
    @jemmanuellrt Рік тому +3

    You dissect our DJ gadgets well !!!

  • @lukeannett
    @lukeannett Рік тому +3

    Wow. I wasn't expecting that big of a difference. The Denon algorithm is far, far superior. Pioneer sounds terrible. Nice work.

  • @TheoryOne333
    @TheoryOne333 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m sold on the denons

  • @EnduroRJ
    @EnduroRJ 2 місяці тому +1

    Please think of how many sources you can do at once. I play together with other 2 dis and no matter if they are pioneer settled with their USBs, when I set my denons all of us can plug in all usbs and the machine is reading everything, and mostly, you don’t need to unplug anything to change dj as you actually can plug up to 6 usbs with 2 players. For me, this is very important.

  • @djchristhomas
    @djchristhomas Рік тому +1

    Always good videos
    Thanks for your work
    Very useful

  • @TheHeavyCrates
    @TheHeavyCrates 2 місяці тому +1

    Love how you call Technics 1200s the Tecnique 1200 😊

    • @TheDJLab
      @TheDJLab  2 місяці тому +1

      Google search it... the company actually called it both. Technik and Techniques..

  • @greggparker2592
    @greggparker2592 Рік тому +4

    Denon miles better, Pioneer sounds shocking compared

  • @DomCB
    @DomCB Рік тому +1

    What was the format of the track you played? Wav? Aiff? Other? Great video, thanks for sharing. Denon make good gear. Hoping that Pioneer are forced into making more of an effort with firmware updates like you say.

    • @TheDJLab
      @TheDJLab  Рік тому

      Beatport streaming

    • @DomCB
      @DomCB Рік тому

      @@TheDJLab thanks. Interesting to see if the same difference is observed with wavs/aiffs. Likely it will tbh

  • @djbrano
    @djbrano Рік тому +2

    your ear is right 👍

  • @michaelmashup452
    @michaelmashup452 Рік тому +1

    Traktor 3s key lock is horrendous, would love your opinion on it

  • @happylittlesynth
    @happylittlesynth 4 місяці тому

    That is quite the difference in sound, Denon definitely wins in the algo battle.

  • @djjas764
    @djjas764 Рік тому

    Thx. Which player has a better cue point placement while playing? Don’t have Denon’s that is why asking and you have both.

  • @deanaronovici9894
    @deanaronovici9894 Місяць тому

    Hi.
    Iam thinking of purchasing the denon SC6000. Can use the same USB in the CDJ 3000 and play straight or would I need to format it?
    Aslo, can you sink them together of I was to get one of each?
    Thank you.
    Regards

    • @TheDJLab
      @TheDJLab  Місяць тому +1

      Can't sync together.. usb from 3000 will update on 6000 and read no prob

  • @ToniRawGazer
    @ToniRawGazer 5 місяців тому

    I’m rocking the cdj3000 and I absolutely love them

  • @harveyspecter1653
    @harveyspecter1653 2 місяці тому

    At 80 Bpm you can clearly hear the Denon is a lot better than the Pioneer imo. You hear the beat still sounding like a double beat. Not so on the Denon.

  • @martynharcombe7920
    @martynharcombe7920 Рік тому

    Its so funny people get cut up on sound quality these days. Only a few years ago we where playing dirty crackly vinyl. Im a sc5000 user not by choice i could afford pioneer players😂 still rocking my vestax too

  • @grooveshackrecords
    @grooveshackrecords 11 місяців тому

    wow, I hope Pioneer bring out a firmware update to compete with this!

    • @TheBebe666
      @TheBebe666 10 місяців тому

      Firmware will not change much because Pioneer is not made powerful enough to improve. They release new and more expensive hardware instead to match.

  • @anonjohnnyG
    @anonjohnnyG Рік тому +1

    isnt pioneers dac processing superior to denons?

    • @nielsv2025
      @nielsv2025 2 дні тому

      He uses the digital out.

  • @JL-bu8bz
    @JL-bu8bz 3 місяці тому

    Pioneer was Hamilton. Denon is Verstapen. Ok Tks Denon. We need good fights, BUT we consumers always need who wins the leaders. So we Will need a New Verstapen soon. And the DJs Will need to now how to use all good brands.

  • @mazusub8182
    @mazusub8182 Рік тому

    Hi!, question…
    Can I use it (the SC6000 M) in DVS mode with a S11!? If so … how do I do it? Please 🙏

  • @djillyaslick7036
    @djillyaslick7036 Рік тому +2

    pioneer is not going to put all it features on the 3000 not until 3000 nx2

    • @risquedj
      @risquedj Рік тому +1

      Agree!

    • @djcvmusic1
      @djcvmusic1 Рік тому +1

      @@risquedj Mk$$$3 🤣 like usual

    • @risquedj
      @risquedj Рік тому +1

      @@djcvmusic1 Yup, I thought they had finally learned their lesson, and were going to change their strategy w' the introduction of those dual ARM MPUs, but nope, business as usual. There is no getting around it.....Pioneer DJ are just greedy bastards!

  • @homepc-carlisle
    @homepc-carlisle Рік тому +1

    By this time all of your punters have walked off the dancefloor and said wtf

    • @TheDJLab
      @TheDJLab  Рік тому +1

      Clearly you missed the whole point of this video. This is a comparison video obviously you're not going to put your BPM down 23 beats per minute in the middle of a nightclub

    • @homepc-carlisle
      @homepc-carlisle Рік тому +3

      @@TheDJLab no I get the point but would anyone notice as I am a nightclub DJ of years, ant wouldn’t be me if not making light hearted comments, us DJs need to be less serious, great vids watch them all the time, love the rant.

  • @WazzyTV
    @WazzyTV 11 місяців тому

    cdj3000 looks better and feels better especially the jogs..denon got more features 4sure..but a lot of dis don't use all those features

    • @ChrisBlade.
      @ChrisBlade. 7 місяців тому +1

      I disagree, just the screen real estate on the Denon’s make them look far superior

    • @daryld7447
      @daryld7447 7 місяців тому

      you right with the denon sc 6000 but not with the denon sc 6000 it's really fun too mix with better feeling than the cdj 3000

    • @wolfandlamb6948
      @wolfandlamb6948 5 місяців тому

      It depends of how good you are.

  • @djhenryjay
    @djhenryjay 8 місяців тому

    Dificil é achar algo que O pioneiro seja melhor

    • @JL-bu8bz
      @JL-bu8bz 3 місяці тому

      V10. Monster machine.

  • @danielfontanes7339
    @danielfontanes7339 Рік тому +3

    I’m first🎉

  • @softwaregear24
    @softwaregear24 Рік тому

    Just keep the CDJ 3000 like you said you never know when they going to update the firmware

    • @TheBebe666
      @TheBebe666 10 місяців тому

      Never most likely. But you might get CDJ4000 for 1000$ more

    • @softwaregear24
      @softwaregear24 10 місяців тому

      @TheBebe666 don't say that pioneer always be overprice there product smh

  • @BlingPiece
    @BlingPiece 9 місяців тому

    Hm who cares about the plus/minus pitch bands these days… seriously