Where Did The New York Accent Come From?
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My mother grew up in Brooklyn. She moved to the west coast when she was in her 30's and hasn't been back in almost 40 years. My mom's accent has softened a lot over the years. It's funny listening to her talk to our family who still live back east. Her accent comes back the second that she's on the phone with the people that she grew up with.
I love the Brooklyn accent!
Philly & NY Accents are the best! Cali Accents are wack!!
@@PhillieP215 yeah, cali is wack
Definitely! I'm from Long Island, and to me Buffalonians sound the same as Chicagoans.
@@genebigs1749 agreed
As an upstate New Yorker, I can confirm that the accent up here is VERY different to the City accent.
True. The futhure away you go from the city, the accent changes.
My grandpa's got a thick Buffalo accent. I love it. Go Bills!
@@HollowDesert the buffalo accent sounds like a mix of the Brooklyn and Midwest accent, similar to the old Chicago accent
very true
Agreed, I’m from Long Island and we sound nothing like folks from Western New York-One thing I do not do consistently in my speech is R dropping. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t
I like how you pronounce soda and sodar indistinguishable from each other.
Yeah, it's not so easy to explain when your own accent does the same thing!
The thing is Brits (those from the areas around London at least, I think called "Home Counties"), New Yorkers, Bostonoians, etc. have this thing called "linking r" or "intrusive r". We add it in words like "soda" et cetera, but it's followed immediately afterwards. So we'll say "sodar and ice" but not "ice and sodar".
My dad grew up on Jamaica Avenue, which he pronouced "Jamaicar Avenue".
My grandfather (from Brooklyn) called my sister Linder instead of Linda. But he didn’t add an “r” to the end of my name Barbara.
Lifelong New Yorker here - the people in upstate New York have different accents. But the "New Yawk" accent has variations out on Long Island and in northern New Jersey.
As a native of North Jersey, I will partly agree with your comment on NJ...although Poetry Flynn's suggestion is valid, lol, we're a feisty bunch. The more NY-ish accents traditionally have been in the counties closest to the city, but there's also been a lot of migration out of NYC into Jersey and eastern PA the last couple generations, so you hear a lot of variety. My father's generation (born in the 40s/50s) still has what I think of as "the" north/central Jersey accent, but it's a lot rarer in younger generations. I don't know if I ever really had it. NYC accents are sticky, I guess.
@Lara Gravenor My Dad's from South Africa! I LOVE listening to that side of the family's accent!Having grown up on Long Island, I have that accent. My sister, who lived for a time in New England, picked up their accent. XD
My biggest takeaway from this video is that Patrick can't even approximate a New York accent.
My grandmother spent her whole life living in Hoboken, NJ which is just across the river from Manhattan, but has a bit of its own twist on the accent. My dad used to joke that my grandma had an "R" Warehouse where she'd store the "R"s from words that should have them to use in words that shouldn't have them. So my grandmother might "Take the caah to the baah just to get pizzar and sodar."
This is heard elsewhere in the Anglosphere. The Bee Gees sang "All of a sudden I sore a new morning" not long after leaving Australia. UA-camr Half-Asleep Chris, only an hour out of London, has it too.
That’s funny, maybe the words you used? It’s true though. My spouse is from New England. I’m originally from upstate NY. Listen to the o sound in words like rock and Rochester. The o sounds more like a hard a. Rah. some times I can smooth it out but if I’m tired, I guess I get lazier and that o definitely sounds like a in the cheerleading word, rah. Yes, used to say pop. For Coke, Pepsi, root beer, Sprite, et cetera. That is, until we moved to Pennsylvania. There it was soda. To be better recognized, I started saying pop, soda pop.
I worked on Long Island, New York which is a suburb and a lot of people had moved there from NYC so there accent is pretty similar. I heard one person on Long Island say “dramer ” instead of “drama” and it was so so strange! I had heard some people sometimes say “idear” instead of “idea” but that was usually it.
@@catw6998pop is more midwestern & Buffalo, being on a Great Lake, is more like the mid-west than Manhattan. Downstate New York says soda, not pop.
@@chrisk5651 The thing with adding the R to words like "drama" and "idea" is it usually happens when it's a word that ends with a vowel followed by a word that begins with another vowel, it typically won't happen otherwise. So a New Yorker with the real NYC region accent (including LI and northern NJ), as well as Bostonians, Londoners, Aussies, will say "Don't give me any drama please" or "I have no idea" without adding the *R* , but it's "I have no ideaR_about any of it!" or "Enough with the drammeR_already!". It's called "linking R" or "intrusive R" but it normally happens in the kinds of examples I gave in the second instance, when it's a word that ends with a vowel followed by a word that begins with a vowel. Listen to how it's said next time. So more examples, JFK (from Boston) when he was president, would talk about "Cuba" without adding the "R" if he'd say something like "We must defend against the Soviet threat from Cuba" during the Cuban Missile Crisis but if he'd say something like "We must make sure that Cuba "We must make sure that Cuba isn't a launching pad for Soviet missiles" it would have come out like "We must make sure that CubeR_isn't a launching pad for Soviet missiles" .
Another example: My late father, was raised on Jamaica Avenue on the Brooklyn-Queens border. He always mader it sound like, "Back when I lived on Jamaker_Avenya". Because again, "Avenue" starts with a vowel. But if he'd say , "Are you from Jamaica?" or "I'm thinking of taking a vacation to Jamaica" , no R at the end, unless followed immediately by a word beginning with a vowel. Anyway, I think I gave enough examples, hopefully you get what I mean!
As a native New Yorker I will say the stereotypical New York accent is vanishing. For instance my father has one where I do not, unless I get very upset, lol. I think it's a number of factors in it's decline, including gentrification, immigration and having a bit of a negative connotation. It is a bit sad when you think about it.
i have one and i always get comments about it lol. it surprises people which is crazy to me
@gordonramsayslambsauce2519 Exactly the thing he says at the end. I was embarrassed by my accent when I was in my 20s, back in the early 1990s, I cringed at hearing my parents' working class Brooklyn Jewish accents ( even though they were both college-educated professionals, it sounded low class to me), and I made an attempt to cover up my accent with a generic accent. When I lived out West Califrnians teased me about saying "cawfee". So now I've largely lost my accent, but like you, it comes out when I get agitated (or as we say here on Staten Island, when someone gives me ''agida") or when I try to sound more blue collar and down to earth sometimes I deliberately lay it on thick. But I don't think it's my normal accent anymore. My stepdaughter, raised almost all her life in Brooklyn, now 25, sounds like a "Vallley Girl" not a hint of a Brooklyn accent to me.
I also code-switch depending on my mood!
@@grasmereguy5116 You basically speak different now as you trained yourself to. The New York accent is strong when a couple has one, usually the children keep it. The Valley girl accent in New York comes from imitating another like yourself.
@@1Andelina1 Interestingly enough, I was thinking about this again today. I was riding the bus from Staten Island to Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, and hopefully I don't come off as a creepy middle-aged man, but I was discreetly observing and listening to a bunch of high school girls engaging in loud conversation (they were cute, I must say). In any case, they barely had a trace of New York in their voices, their speech was very rhotic (pronouncing Rs and not dropping them in the middle of the word as we old-time New Yorkers used to). I did hear a trace of New York because they were discussing some "song" and they pronounced it "sawng", but they probably didn't linger on the vowel too much, there was a short "aw" sound, we would have said it longer back in my day, I think "saawwwngg". But the accent is definitely fading in this generation
As a native New Yorker, the accent is still not dying. The only areas that have outsiders or gentrification is Central Manhattan and North West Brooklyn and Queens which is small compared to the rest of NYC. If you go deeper into Brooklyn, uptown Manhattan, Queens and the Bronx where natives still live. You will hear it strong, even amongst youths
Patrick, have you ever heard an upper-class New York accent? Like you might hear on the Upper East Side or in the _very_ remotest parts of of Long Island? It's remarkably close to Victorian-era Received Pronunciation.
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William Buckley comes to mind (despite the fact that he wasn't of English descent and his family wasn’t from NY).
I also hear this patrician accent quite frequently in old Hollywood movies (i.e. 'Now Voyager' and 'The Thin Man' movies).
I think its called the Mid - Atlantic accent.
@@crustymcgee6580 He was faking it. He grew up in the western US and was ashamed of it. George Plimpton on the other hand- he was the real deal.
@@SamAronow smh. P.S. loved your episodes on Sabbatai Zevi and the origins of Hasidism.
Upstate NYer here! We have a very different accent to the city. We mostly speak with the standard American accent in the urban and suburban areas (Albany, Syracuse, etc.) but NY is actually mostly rural and farmland where the accents tend to be a little twangier.
I grew up in New York City and the only people I ever knew that had a New York accent, were from Jersey lol
You the girl from the comment section of every cumtown video?
Growing up on Long Usland, almost everybody around me had a NYC accent (although it's not as common these days)
@@crustymcgee6580 true, loong ihland definitely also has the accent
Yea the only people who actually sound like what people THINK New Yorkers sound like are people from Staten Island, Jersey, and Long Island….pretty much anyone who calls Manhattan ‘The city’ 😭
Come to southern brooklyn, you'll hear it everywhere lol
I love the various New York City accents, but like is often the case, they're unfairly seen as lowbrow or unsophisticated, like is sometimes the case with Southern accents only more so. I knew many New York City people who took special enunciation classes to minimize or even lose their accent, especially if they were moving away from NYC.
It's a shame, that NYC accents are fading away, but that is the case around the World due to mass audio visual media, such as TV, radio, & movies. It causes accents in the World to average together over time. Mom grew up in the 1930's in rural Alabama, and she told me, that and her friends would try and sound like people on the radio, because they assumed them to be sophisticated. The truth wasn't, that they were sophisticated, but that they were chosen to be on the radio, because their accent was closer to neutral, so that the broadest audience could understand it. It's the same reason, that the transatlantic accent was used on stage and received pronunciation is used by the BBC.
Each borough has its own accent. Long Island is similar. You won’t find it upstate
I love NY accent. I actually use it sometimes as a non-Native speaker. It just feels nice to find a spot between British and American.
Good stuff. I love when English learners adopt this dialect
I didn't think I had a New Yorker accent. Until my new friends asked me where I'm from. Lived all around lower New York, and the futhure from the city, you go the accent changes. Long Island sounds different from Westchester and is completely different from upstate New York. Each borough of New York city have their own accent. Tho they may sound similar in some ways.
All of Long Island (where I'm from) has that accent too as well as north of NYC into Westchester...but further north than that the accent pretty much disappears.
As a native New Yorker, you overgeneralized a lot. Like London, different parts of the city and its suburbs have different accents, and those accents have shifted over the years. Even neighboring areas have drastically different accents such as Brooklyn vs. Queens vs. Long Island.
As to answer your question, there is a different accent in the northern most borough of the city, the Bronx, which is different from Westchester, the suburb immediately North of the Bronx. Upstate New York accents are very different from the many New York City and adjacent area accents, aka Downstate New York. The accents from surrounding states such as the Northern Jersey accent have more in common with some of the New York City Accents, then the accent from someone living in Buffalo or Albany.
New York City and its surrounding areas are a wonderfully diverse set of accents, with a fascinating shift over the last few centuries. Not only are there accent difference but word use differences between different parts of the New York metro area.
By the way I love your channel; I just think you missed a great opportunity to dive into the deeper and richer world of New York City accents and vocabulary.
The New York accents are a continuum: each borough does indeed have its own slight variation, so much so that someone from Bronx can tell if someone is from Brooklyn or Queens. The farther out geographically you go, the weaker the "NYC accents" get and yield to hybrids with other areas (North [New] Jersey has its own distinct, but related accent, as does western and central Long Island, and Westchester County north of the city).
It's the same as London: North London, South London, East London all sound slightly different from each other, but are too similar to be separated, and then that radiates out.
Another feature that shows up in some varieties of the NYC dialect is the fronting of final schwas to /i:/. My aunts used to say, for example, "sodie" for soda. One time in the late 90's, I went back to the east coast for a vacation. When I returned to Oregon, I confused the directory assistance operator when I wanted to asked for Gonzaga University. They thought I said "Gonzaggy."
My dad grew up in Hackensack, NJ and would say "Sundie", "Saddy", etc. for the days of the week.
Jews have lived in NYC since it was New Amsterdam under the Dutch. They were Spanish and Portuguese Jews. Shearith Israel is the oldest congregation in the US.
the sterotypical NYC accent is commonly in the borough of Brooklyn and Long Island
You left out the Germans! There were once a million in a city of five million (exclusive of German Jews), including my maternal ancestors. And the Trumps. And John Peter Zenger, our most important journalist ever.
The 1904 sinking of the General Slocum, full of picnicking German mothers and children, was the city's deadliest day until 2001.
I think the Germans have a huge influence over the Brooklyn accent, Swabians in particular. I say this because Central Texas Swabians sound like people speaking German like Bugs Bunny, and their English is very different from the local Inland Southern Dialect.
Seriously, look up Central Texas German here on YT. It's Brooklyn.
I have family upstate, their accent is closer to Canadian.
Born and raised New Yorker 🖖🏽
Upstate New York does NOT sound like New York City accent at all, to me they sound like they are from Ohio (think Dave Chappell). It’s like a slight country twang that makes me feel like I’m not at home 😩
The boroughs definitely have their own accents ands it’s changed with the generations, it’s hard to explain without audible examples.
Staten Island sounds like Jersey/ Long Island. Honestly, a lot of the accents you hear on tv sound more like that as well. It sounds exaggerated to those of us who live on the mainland.
Like John Schneider.
@@DCMarvelMultiverse huh? Just heard him speak and I’m not sure what you mean
Western New York - e.g. Buffalo and Rochester - might as well be in northern Ohio (e.g. Cleveland), Michigan, Chicago, etc. when compared with New York City and area. Both Western New York and the Great Lakes Midwest are part of the Northern Inland dialect area.
My family left NYC for Colorado when I was 16 when my dad retired. Nobody could understand much of what I was saying. It was frustrating. So I slowed down my speech and eventually my accent softened a little. But now I have a western drawl fused with a Brooklyn accent.
I worked on Long Island, New York which is a suburb and a lot of people had moved there from NYC so there accent is pretty similar. I heard one person on Long Island say “dramer ” instead of “drama” and it was so so strange! I had heard some people sometimes say “idear” instead of “idea” but that was usually it.
Upstate New York is a World away accent & culture wise from New York City. The further away from NYC, the more like Wisconsin it is.
4:40 same thing with my accent! i'm from amazonas, the city of manaus, and we have a similar accent to people of Rio de Janeiro because of that
Im from NYC and I dont have an accent ......Its everyone else that has an accent!!!!
I agree! My formal Inland Southern accent is neutral, and your most formal NYC speech is quite comprehensible. Y'all do have a few quirks, like saying "you guys" when "y'all" would be simpler and more inclusive.
"Ayyy I'm walkin' he-"
Gunshot *
"They ain't walkin no more"
Reloads *
I grew up in a county bordering the city and the accent is definitely prevalent in my hometown. My linguistics professors in college were fascinated by my accent and would always ask me to basically perform my accent for the class. I tend to hear a stronger NY accent in people with Italian families, particularly those who grew up with a southern Italian dialect being spoken in the family. The vowel sounds in southern Italian dialects sound very similar, to me at least, to the way vowels are pronounced in a NY accent.
Many black people have a strong new York accent in the area.
I appreciate how hard you tried to do the accent but the contrast between your effort and level of success made me laugh
The accents are completely different - they’re like, “where’s the car” and we’re like, “where’s the car”
🥝
Why is the car?
The “New York Accent” isn’t 1 accent, to be honest the “New York Accent” is unique compared to say Texas or other states because the accents depend on what group you are. Jews and different accents from blacks, blacks from whites, Italians from Albanians, Puerto Ricans from Yuppies. It’s different from ethnic group to people and class
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Eggzackly!
The nyc accent extends up north to around Poughkeepsie (it gets less distinct the more north you go). I grew up in Poughkeepsie and we don’t drop our Rs, but we do have the “aw” sound
I would think people who arrive tend to adopt the dominant accent of those around them (well at least their children will).. Speaking for my own country which has a loooooot of immigrants and they sound like everybody else whether their parents were from Pakistan Poland or Africa..
My partner has family living in upstate New York. They really don't seem to have a classic New York accent, though they're 1st or 2nd generation Ecuadorians so that needs to be factored in.
Upstate definitely has a distinct accent, much more related to Appalachia / the Midwest depending on the specific area. Many parts of upstate are still influenced by downstate accents for obvious reasons (people traveling for work/school, etc. within the state)
Don't know about now, but a New Orleans accent was similar to a New York City accent, when I was a kid.
When I used to hear Emmeril Lagasse (sp?) speak on his Food Network show, it sounded very similar to a NYC accent
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Never heard of it... There is a place called naw lins
@@dannicatzer305 Sorry. Pardon my crude attempt at spelling! ...Harry Connick Jr, especially when he was younger, had that accent btw.
@@crustymcgee6580 I think, that Chef Lagasse is originally from a Portuguese community in Massachusetts. But I may have him mixed up with someone else?
~4:52-5:07 The timeline here is all messed up. The lack of R's in the London accent was only popularized AFTER the US became independent, so that was most likely not a holdover from before independence. Instead, non-rhoticity (the dropping of R's at the ends of words) was introduced along the East coast of the US during the 19th century through constant contact between England and American port cities.
I'm from NYC, but I was born in 1991 and a lot of the strong features of the accent have kind of disappeared. Honestly the most New Yorkey thing I do in my speech is talk excessively fast.
I am from Miami but I have some New York-ish features in my accent. For example I say "orange" like "ahrange". I pronounce "mary, merry and marry" differently.
O Henry wrote _The Lady Higher Up,_ a short story where the Statue of Liberty and the gold-plated Diana statue on top of Madison Square Garden had a conversation. The former spoke in what was called the City Hall brogue and the latter in a stereotypical Manhattan accent. A subtle point to the story was, greater New York accents were so close that, with a little effort, everyone could understand everyone else. (O Henry was a Southerner by birth and upbringing, just so you know.)
i grew up in NJ and in school they’d try to get us to pronounce our d’s like t’s so instead of wader they’d tell us it’s water
I left nYC in 2007 and I have never looked back. My family in nYC tease me because of how much my accent doesn't sound new working. It has morphed into it's own thing.
Manhattan: A saw a pretty bird on thirty third and third.
Brooklyn: I sawh ah poi-ty boid on toi-tee-toid an` toid.
Queens: I zaw ah preetie bird on thurdy-turd and turd.
Statten Island: I saw a petty bid on thiddy thid an thid.
Bronx: What`za Bird?
Having lived in Queens my entire life, I can't say I've ever heard anyone that lives here (assuming they were born and raised in the area) pronounce the word "saw" as zaw or "pretty" as preetie. As for "boid" and "turd" (bird and third) I think that's more of an old-school Brooklyn accent, but there were probably a good amount of people from Queens who also spoke this way at one time. Plenty of Brooklyn natives moved to Queens and Long Island over the years. The generation that pronounced words like thirty third and third as "toy-tee turd and turd" or "three" as tree, is pretty much non-existent anywhere in NYC these days. I guess it was a generational thing, and I'm sure class/level of education had a lot to do with the pronunciation of these words as well. Is there a particular part of Queens that you know of where you've heard people speak this way? I'm just curious if maybe it's a certain ethnic background of people that live here that you've interacted with?
I'm not from New York State, but I'm from the northeast. Buffalo NY has a distinct accent that you can hear in the entire western part of NY. You can hear Canadian and Polish influences on the accent. I haven't noticed any big differences in the way they speak in northern NY from the way they speak in Vermont.
Upstate New York was settled by Dutch, New Englanders, and Palatine Germans. The accent is mostly "General American" with a bit of an edge. My stepdad was from Westchester County immediately north of the city, and his speech was 95% Upstate. It's a border zone-- accent is a choice.
The Italian New Yorkan accent is one of my favourites
Very few younger people speak that way though, sadly. Huge generational gaps
I think most people in world will recognise it too due to greatest movies having this accent
It's not even Italian though. People of Italian heritage just adopted the accent.
I love these accent videos
I have plenty of respect for New York accents as a mark of regional identity, but one thing I always have to bring up (as a generally tiresome linguist from southeastern Pennsylvania) is the tendency for pop culture to imply that people from Philadelphia sound just like people from New York. While the dialects share a couple of common features (i.e. cawfee) and the cities themselves are relatively close together, a typical Philadelphia accent is very much rhotic and has quite a lot of additional phonetic variation compared to the NYC dialect.
To your question of "how far does this accent propagate?" I would say it's pretty common to hear it in northern/northeastern New Jersey, but once you've passed maybe Trenton or Princeton, you're more likely to hear variations of Philadelphia/Mid-Atlantic accents
I think Philly shares some aspects with bnaltimore also, in certain vowel sounds. Maybe in the way words like "home" are pronounced, which also has a little Britishness to it as well, I can't explain it using the correct linguistic terminology, but since you're a linguist you know which phones I mean, hopefully.
I'd love to know about the Greater Philadelphia Area accent - like "wooder" for water.
8:11 You got that right. I think dropping an R and changing T into D isn't something the Dutch generally do. However I do admit the R rolls less and the T is less pronounced, so Dutch may be a contributing factor, but it's not the whole story and other ethnic groups must have had some influence as well
Read David Hackett Fischer’s “Albion’s Seed” that explains folkways and with that, accents.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but I think the upstate New York accents are totally different.
I never knew I had an accent until I moved to Florida and people kept telling me am from New York and my accent is strong..I’ve been here for 10 years and it soften up a bit specially around white Floridians..they can’t understand me sometimes if i don’t over pronounce certain words
YOU FORGOT HOW GERMAN NYC WAS FROM 1850 - 1900’s the JEWISH USED YIDDISH which sounded ALMOST THE SAME AS GERMAN!!
@Name Explain Re the question you posed at 11:20 “Does the rest of NY state have the same accent as NYC? “
The answer is a resounding No.
I was born in NYC & grew up there. After university (in NYC) I did my graduate school studies up in the Rochester & Buffalo region… the accent there is very different from NYC. Interestingly the accent in Western NY state sounds more like an upper Midwestern accent. In addition many common words are completely different.
One ex. a fizzy, sweet drink in NYC is known as “soda” however in Western NY it’s called “pop” (as is true in many midwestern states)
NY State is bigger than one might think. Without traffic it takes a solid 8 hours to drive from Buffalo to NYC. Hope this helps answer your question. 😊
Long Islander here & I've never heard anyone say "soder" when they mean "soda." I've also been out to the end of the Island & they don't sound any different than I do, unless they've moved there from somewhere else. Even people in the City don't sound all that different from me. XD
12:31 "We should definitely not, forget about it. What, did you expect me to say it in a specific way or something?"
Haha, I see what he did there! Fuhgeddaboudit!🙃
Coffee - "kwaahfee" or "koo-waffee"
off as "oowahf" or "awf"
etc. Sometimes it sounds like a glottal stop and a 'w' or a whole syllable
I know a woman in her late 50s from southern New Jersey who's grandmother was native to the UK.
The grandmother used to babysit her granddaughter and only accepted "The Queen's English" in her home. 😅
*enraged Dutch person telling you Americans don't sound like Dutch people at all*
Lol
I went to school 60 away in eastern PA and still remember the baffled looks when trying to order a large pie (pizza). And unfortunately, Staten island has a blend of Jersey and NY accent
1:38 He says the same things twice, there's no telling me otherwise.
It needs to be said that he is describing the New York City accent. And even there it depends on which borough you live in. The upstate accent is completely different from the NYC. Also, a lot of people confuse the Long Island accent with the NYC accent. There are a lot of differences between the two.
Its a mix of London, Irish, Italian and Jewish. But its important to know that each borough varies. A Brooklyn accent is more Italian. Queens (and New Jersey) is more Jewish. Usually when people identify a NY accent, they're referring to Brooklyn.
Sort of. The classic NYC accent is a mix of early 17th century Dutch, late 17th century German and English, 19th century Irish and the early 20th century explosion of Italian and Eastern European immigrants. Saying it has English origins is not quite accurate as there were almost no English settlers in Manhattan until the late 1600’s after the Dutch had been there for 60 years.
Most of the people I know from that area are from Yonkers which seems to have a brighter character
Toity doity boids, sittin' on a coib, eatin' doity woims.
Wait... Estuary English is a different accent, isn't it? I thought it was the umbrella term for east London / Basildon / Southend accents.
Uh, which NY accent?
Some of the most typical New York pronunciations come from the city's Dutch origins - things like "terlit' for 'toilet" and lookig for "the corner of Toity-toid street and toid avenya"
Is that where Archie Bunker lived? ;)
I always thought the Italians had a major influence on the accent.
Not really
That's a stereotype
Are New York accents the same as a Brooklyn or Queens accent? Or are they three different accents?
Brooklyn is regarded as having the most distinct accent. Queens is in second place. Manhattan does not have as distinct an accent because it is populated by people from all over the US and world so everyone speaks their most formal dialect to each other. Long Island is another story. There's a reason the accent is known as "Lon Guyland".
1:15 “motha and WaaTerr”
Tbh I’ve heard English accents where they skip the T and just pronounce it as Wa-Er
1:40 Great point. But the word itself isn't pronounced "sodar". The rhoticity ("r"ing) happens only if the following word begins with vowels.
E.g. I'm gonna grab some soda "r"-"a"nd pizza "r"-"a"fter this.
"I'ma grab some soda rand pizza rafter this"
Got my drift?
I appreciate how you made me look like a person.
people from upstate dont really speak like us from the boroughs. The accent usually stops after Yonkers above the bronx.
I have an obnoxiously heavy New York Accent....and hearing someone trying to pronounce words like "off" and "coffee" like I do, but with what I perceive as a thick "fancy" accent is absolutely the cutest thing I have ever heard. Lol, to be fair if I were to try and imitate your (beautiful) accent I know for a fact I just sound like Liza Dolittle pre-gentleman's bet in My Fair Lady, so touche Mister Fancy Accent Narrator Guy.
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☝️I'm the one cackling manically and yelling "F**k u, u f**kin' squares!" At the end when my distraction paid off and my teammate (guild leader) was able to steal their relic.
You're welcome, Mister Fancy Accented Narrator Guy.
We just moved upstate New York from Long Island, and people definitely do not speak like they do down in the metro area. It sounds more like a Midwestern Canadian accent.
OMG, this host narrating here reminds me of the “Sex Robot” from the Whitest Kids You Know! LoL
“What is he DOINGhere?”
“He waants seeeeexxx!”
My grandpa grew up in Brooklyn. He hasn't lived there in over fifty years yet still sounds like he grew up next door to Bernie Sanders. I love that accent so much.
Do the Chicago accent next.
11:16 Steamed Hams reference?
Speaking of adding Rs... What's with British pronunciations adding R if the following word starts with a vowel?
"Champagne supernova, Champagne Supernover in..."
"I had an idear about..."
"I had an idea that..."
Wait a minute isn’t the Texas accent going though an image problem as well?!🤔🧐🤨😳
Not really. It's a pretty standard form of Inland Southern well understood everywhere in the US.
Bacopa68 oh okay thanks for letting me know and also I am really sorry that I thought that the Texas accent was having a negative image crisis of sorts.👍🏻😅😓
this accent is dying.
it's become so hard nowadays to hear someone, especially among the younger generation, within NYC using the accent regularly.
I csn confirm
Yea honestly accents are dying everywhere ....even here down south where im from....the country accent isnt that thick anymore with this new younger generation....and its mainly because social media... Social media is killing the authentic-ness of the accents....because the new generation is growing up on social media constantly listening other people on the internet talk with regular american accents.......see when we didn't have a social media the only accents we heard was the ones we heard in person so wherever u grew up and whatever accent was spoken was the only accent you knew and adapted too....without social media there was no other accent for you to here ....which is another reason i hate social media .....
The New York accent fizzles out 10 miles from the city's borders.
Our accent definitely stems from the Italian and polish influences… and nobody here pronounces soda as “ sodar “.
It’s not “sodar” it’s “soder” for soda.
Im Italian from NYC. I have the classic accent everyone talks about in movies etc. And the answer is no, upstate the further you go up the accent sounds more and more canadian
Upstate New Yorkers sounds nothing like people from NYC. In Western New York state, some people even speak with a bit of a Midwestern US accent- so people from WNY wouldn't say "sodaR" or even "soda", they would say "pop".
Western New York, in many ways, is the gateway to the Midwest, to the likes of Cleveland, Detroit, and Chicago.
New York,New Jersey,and Boston have similar accents
Don't forget Philly
Is it just me or have you started stretching out your vocal fries 😂
Upstate definitely doesn't talk like downstate. Long Island has its own inflection on words
“Soda, often pronounced as soda” lol
I grew up in NYC but was never told I had a New York accent.
Grew up in Texas and when I was in NYC I used enough of the formal end of my speech that no one thought I had that much of an accent except that that they could not sometimes understand the difference between "rat" and "right", and they wanted me to say "acorn" a lot because they thought it was funny. I thought the way they said it was funny.
Only other issue was that I would lapse into the finna/gonna distinction and sometimes copula dropping. Got called out for appropriating AAVE by white folks. What? This is simply part of how white folks speak in the south. AAVE has some truly distinct features, but not many.
Dropping r's and turning short o's into aw's is not unique to New York. My family comes from the outskirts of Boston, and they do the same, but the accent is somewhat different from New York. (I did, however, mistake a co-worker's New York accent for New England.)
Bbc english is a fire cornstar name