As a kid who's dealt with Social workers and police, it's pure stupidity and an unbelievable amount lacking in empathy. Every thing Gabriel heard was also said to me when dealing with extreme abuse. It's sadly not that uncommon. The uncommon part is that the child dies. That's the only time the real questions are asked. You also have to take into account the kind of people this profession draws and what it will bring out of you after 10+ years. It extremely sad and unfortunate because it's sadly not that uncommon
My brother-in-law wanted to be a social worker. He made it about two years I think before he just couldn't continue. Too many doomed kids, too few resources, and no one gave a shit.
It’s hard Khalif, it’s crazy but I had to come to a realization on how to talk to my father through David. When he came out saying that his dad told him “I’m old I can’t change. I’m in my ways , you have to adjust to me” I had to sit back and come to that realization that I had to do the same for my dad & at this time we haven’t talked for over a year. It takes time but hopefully through time it’ll get better.
I think David's dad and my mom are the same lol. When she's asking a question, it's like what are you really asking? And she's stubborn too. The other night my brother pulled out a bug from the rice-you could see legs and everything. My mom goes, "that's just black rice."
44:15 I feel the same way, for the same reason. Even now that he's changed, I just can't help it, the addition of "why" to any sentence/phrase is ingrained into my speech now.
My relationship with my dad is kind of similar to yours David, in the sense that we kind of have no relationship (or more so lack of substance in whatever relationship we have). He's basically the classic Asian immigrant dad, with that stoic exterior, that just gives commands, and gives annoying 30-minute lectures. Though I have to admit I do low-key appreciate it, as I understand that not everyone's dad is willing to sit down with them for extended periods/never had a father figure in their life. I guess in that respect I am pretty fortunate, its just that hearing how you and your dad mended things together over time, gives me hope that someday in the near future, I'll be able to gradually do the same with my dad to where our relationship has some substance to it. Love GeniusBrain for these deep convos! :)
I was so angry while and after watching this documentary. As someone who is going to work with children and just in human services, it is baffling how all these people called in the issues and how the social workers were so incompetent. So pathetic. I ended up writing a paper for my ethics class on the issues with intensive family preservation programs and the issues with mandatory reporting and importance in training mandatory reports at identifying and addressing child abuse. I mentioned Gabriel's case alongside similar cases that took place in my city (unfortunately I found multiple case studies in my city where kids were placed in homes where they were abused or passed too). It's really sad how so many kids fall between the cracks and some pass away when there were people around that were supposed to protect them. I just hate how black and white a lot of child services are, it's either social workers are tearing families apart over little things vs they believe that family needs to be together no matter what even if there is abuse and the child is safer being taken away. I believe anyone working with children need to be heavily trained on their role as a mandatory reporter and how it identify, assess and address possible abuse. Teachers, social workers, daycare workers, police officers, nurses, doctors, etc. I was so upset with this case and how the police officers threatened Gabriel because his mom said he was being a bad kid. I can't imagine how scary that would have been. The police should have never done that and should have been trained to identify possible child abuse.
In Vietnam we also have the same case David and it's just happened recently dude like last month or something, a 3 year old girl got abused to death by her biological mom and her mom boyfriend or step dad...Bro after the Gabriel Fernandez trailer, I was like "yo I recognized this, we also have the same case it's happen right here ".
I enjoyed how you spoke about your experience with your dad. I am in the exact same situation and I still currently struggle with how I speak with him and how I control my temper around him. Thanks David for your insight.. I’m trying every week and day to control my anger against my father..
The thing is that the law enforcement failed a child so immensely yet there is never any "what can we do to fix it and actually do better". There needs to be some form of retraining or something. I am never going to willing put absolute faith in the system if they are not willing to take responsibility for their mistakes.
If you're paying for advertising, I would think you get to decide who you wanna advertise with and most companies don't like certain topics or language use. I'm not saying YT is perfect, but I understand their side. I'm slowly starting to see some companies drift away from those restrictions, definitely a work in progress. David you are the revolución! 💜
47:48 Same!!!! when I started my college applications and I told my dad I was considering community college, he got so mad and said that he wouldn't support me if I went to a community college. I was pissed and shocked so I just dropped the topic. Thinking back, I wish I stood my ground because it would've saved me hella money going to community instead of the college I'm attending now
Yo David i resonate with your 'switch' theory with your dad too! I'm 27 now and my dad still asks questions to yell at me :/ still waiting for the 'softening' phase to happen.
I'm with Khalif on the masculinity talk. Just because you grew up thinking something was normal doesn't mean you can't evolve. I think as humans we're naturally scared of change. There's a balance between being too emotional and just trying to be a hardass. It's like with politics, if you go too far left or too far right shit gets a little crazy.
I just want to input that empathy and compassion burnout exist in these types of fields, burnout also exist in the healthcare professional as well. I do agree things like this can happen if someone or some people are not there to deal and help these professionals with empathy burnout:
God 43:00 hits me hard but it wasn't just one person it was with both parents and some relatives. "Oh fuck, they're going to criticise me for something *tosses logic out the window*"
Thos was a very real podcast, and i liked that, but putting that aside for a second the quality really caught my eye. I know that this is probably in your home cuz of covid, but god damn this looks really well shot and judging by the colors id assume its shot on a sony camera, but what im curious about is was this shot with a a7 series sony or an fs series sony?
just to put it out here as a thought or maybe a question i dont really know but wouldnt it be a good idea to organise something where maybe the general public would be designated a period of time in which they carry out humanitarian services. for example here in this case wouldnt having the general public carry out duties as social workers it will regulate responsibility and the actual want to go through cases and verify whether children are safe and okay within these homes, again i dont know anything about these sorts of things and its just a theory that could be wrong in all sense just wanted to see opinions about it
Shi!t Bro Y'all fuck me up with this sh!t man. FUK ME UP!!! Mother died when I was eight after giving birth to my lil borther. Dad had to raise my lil brother, so he neglect me and my siblings and so I looked up to my older brother like a father figure. Brother ended up giving me false hope like David's cousin did and we drifted apart. Brother ended up a deadbeat, drug addicted, pet/GF beater and now I hate him with every fiber of my soul. FUKEN SH!T YO! Making me understand my trauma through listening to y'all two. This shit hurts. Mommy issues, daddy issues, brother issues, and probably some more sh!t too and I am only 23.
Let me make this very clear before this is posted in this comments. I've been to certain areas on the internet on purpose but fountains by accident that I didn't mean to see. With that said, David. That lady look like she was getting off on it because she was. She did. They're actually sick people out there that sexually get off on physically beating and torturing kids. I haven't seen actual real-life footage myself. I've only seen art depicting this because the art made by these people are usually people who are into this stuff. And they make this are either because it's a form of therapy, or they can actually do the singing in real life and they just happen to have good art skills. And they put it into a morbid fucked up project. I only know about this because usually I would look for something else only just come on to that. I never thought that would be considered rule 34. For some it is
As a kid who's dealt with Social workers and police, it's pure stupidity and an unbelievable amount lacking in empathy. Every thing Gabriel heard was also said to me when dealing with extreme abuse. It's sadly not that uncommon. The uncommon part is that the child dies. That's the only time the real questions are asked.
You also have to take into account the kind of people this profession draws and what it will bring out of you after 10+ years.
It extremely sad and unfortunate because it's sadly not that uncommon
My brother-in-law wanted to be a social worker. He made it about two years I think before he just couldn't continue. Too many doomed kids, too few resources, and no one gave a shit.
The crazy thing was the same exact thing happened to another kid in the same way, so sad and unfortunate.
It’s hard Khalif, it’s crazy but I had to come to a realization on how to talk to my father through David. When he came out saying that his dad told him “I’m old I can’t change. I’m in my ways , you have to adjust to me” I had to sit back and come to that realization that I had to do the same for my dad & at this time we haven’t talked for over a year. It takes time but hopefully through time it’ll get better.
*mentions tiger king* “we’ll talk about that right now too” WE NEED MORE PODCAST
TOUCH HIS FRO real ogs gonna remember
Mikhail *taps him with his foot 😂
I listened to Stephanie Soo talk about that case. She talks about a lot of fucked up cases but that was probably one of the most depressing.
Yea, her voice is depressing
I saw her video on this too! When she was talking about how Gabriel's older sister felt guilty, my heart fucking broke
@@iflossrdh Like how she told it or are you just here to spread negativity lol?
@@jihyosspicytoenail9921 I know :(. I think at some point the mom was trying to guilt them or something really shady
Yeah i heard it first from Stephanie. Its such an enraging case 😔
really loved khalif in this. would love to see him on more often!
I think David's dad and my mom are the same lol. When she's asking a question, it's like what are you really asking? And she's stubborn too. The other night my brother pulled out a bug from the rice-you could see legs and everything. My mom goes, "that's just black rice."
44:15 I feel the same way, for the same reason. Even now that he's changed, I just can't help it, the addition of "why" to any sentence/phrase is ingrained into my speech now.
My relationship with my dad is kind of similar to yours David, in the sense that we kind of have no relationship (or more so lack of substance in whatever relationship we have). He's basically the classic Asian immigrant dad, with that stoic exterior, that just gives commands, and gives annoying 30-minute lectures. Though I have to admit I do low-key appreciate it, as I understand that not everyone's dad is willing to sit down with them for extended periods/never had a father figure in their life. I guess in that respect I am pretty fortunate, its just that hearing how you and your dad mended things together over time, gives me hope that someday in the near future, I'll be able to gradually do the same with my dad to where our relationship has some substance to it. Love GeniusBrain for these deep convos! :)
I was so angry while and after watching this documentary. As someone who is going to work with children and just in human services, it is baffling how all these people called in the issues and how the social workers were so incompetent. So pathetic. I ended up writing a paper for my ethics class on the issues with intensive family preservation programs and the issues with mandatory reporting and importance in training mandatory reports at identifying and addressing child abuse. I mentioned Gabriel's case alongside similar cases that took place in my city (unfortunately I found multiple case studies in my city where kids were placed in homes where they were abused or passed too). It's really sad how so many kids fall between the cracks and some pass away when there were people around that were supposed to protect them. I just hate how black and white a lot of child services are, it's either social workers are tearing families apart over little things vs they believe that family needs to be together no matter what even if there is abuse and the child is safer being taken away. I believe anyone working with children need to be heavily trained on their role as a mandatory reporter and how it identify, assess and address possible abuse. Teachers, social workers, daycare workers, police officers, nurses, doctors, etc. I was so upset with this case and how the police officers threatened Gabriel because his mom said he was being a bad kid. I can't imagine how scary that would have been. The police should have never done that and should have been trained to identify possible child abuse.
Omg. Is it me or Asian dads will never admit they’re wrong or apologize.
Most Asian dads. Because my dad's a rare one. My grandpa is stubborn so my dad decided not to be like him.
My husband. I’ll bring up things that’s he’s said to me, word for word “I don’t remember saying that”
Hispanic parents too
I don't think it's just Asians, I think it's just dads in general
In Vietnam we also have the same case David and it's just happened recently dude like last month or something, a 3 year old girl got abused to death by her biological mom and her mom boyfriend or step dad...Bro after the Gabriel Fernandez trailer, I was like "yo I recognized this, we also have the same case it's happen right here ".
I enjoyed how you spoke about your experience with your dad. I am in the exact same situation and I still currently struggle with how I speak with him and how I control my temper around him. Thanks David for your insight.. I’m trying every week and day to control my anger against my father..
Thank You David & Khalif for sharing, Much Love ❤️
The Larry the Doorman story cracks me up to this day. You pictured a great sitcom show right there. hahaha
Im glad you’re getting to speak to your dad more David🙏🏽
I need a tiger king commentary!!!
The thing is that the law enforcement failed a child so immensely yet there is never any "what can we do to fix it and actually do better". There needs to be some form of retraining or something. I am never going to willing put absolute faith in the system if they are not willing to take responsibility for their mistakes.
7:35 think David is talking about "Lil cracra" dope street boxer.
ua-cam.com/video/HVJDBSVYZQk/v-deo.html
Cpm talk
Omg ik he used to be in Jknews and he was so quite and nearly said anything 😂😂😂💀
But when he did he was hilarious
I work for local govt in the state of PA dealing with the elderly and I can confirm Maximus is the worst to deal with. It's nationwide.
Love the podcast. Some of the topics are real eye openers for me.
If you're paying for advertising, I would think you get to decide who you wanna advertise with and most companies don't like certain topics or language use. I'm not saying YT is perfect, but I understand their side. I'm slowly starting to see some companies drift away from those restrictions, definitely a work in progress. David you are the revolución! 💜
I watched it yesterday and I've never cried so hard in my life... for the first time in my life I am really fine with the death penalty
1:02:52 Most influential line I have heard in a while- "Hurt People, Hurt People."
47:48 Same!!!! when I started my college applications and I told my dad I was considering community college, he got so mad and said that he wouldn't support me if I went to a community college. I was pissed and shocked so I just dropped the topic. Thinking back, I wish I stood my ground because it would've saved me hella money going to community instead of the college I'm attending now
Man, why are you both got to get up all up in my feels
this was a heavy ass episode...
Yo David i resonate with your 'switch' theory with your dad too! I'm 27 now and my dad still asks questions to yell at me :/ still waiting for the 'softening' phase to happen.
I'm with Khalif on the masculinity talk. Just because you grew up thinking something was normal doesn't mean you can't evolve. I think as humans we're naturally scared of change. There's a balance between being too emotional and just trying to be a hardass. It's like with politics, if you go too far left or too far right shit gets a little crazy.
Love Khalif man! Invite him more! ♥
Woooow David, teasing us with talking about Tiger King AND saying that you’re working on a script for a film?! Bruh.
that documentary made my mom cry... she didn't even want to see the last 2 episodes.
I just want to input that empathy and compassion burnout exist in these types of fields, burnout also exist in the healthcare professional as well. I do agree things like this can happen if someone or some people are not there to deal and help these professionals with empathy burnout:
khalif boyd. more khalif please. thanks david :) #apt
This was just what I needed, especially in this time of quarantine. Here before DavidSo blows the fuk up.
God 43:00 hits me hard but it wasn't just one person it was with both parents and some relatives. "Oh fuck, they're going to criticise me for something *tosses logic out the window*"
stay safe my dude
David looks soooo good 👀
man this episode fucked me up man... bringing all my childhood problems back up xD
liked this for the chinese boxer. im subbed too 🤣🤣🤣
Can u get on china mac......
Thos was a very real podcast, and i liked that, but putting that aside for a second the quality really caught my eye. I know that this is probably in your home cuz of covid, but god damn this looks really well shot and judging by the colors id assume its shot on a sony camera, but what im curious about is was this shot with a a7 series sony or an fs series sony?
David you're so fucking funny asf.... I love khalif have him on more .... ca t wait to hear for the pod cast on Tiger King
Please do another podcast updating terrace house episode, I want to hear your opinion about the new cast.
just to put it out here as a thought or maybe a question i dont really know but wouldnt it be a good idea to organise something where maybe the general public would be designated a period of time in which they carry out humanitarian services. for example here in this case wouldnt having the general public carry out duties as social workers it will regulate responsibility and the actual want to go through cases and verify whether children are safe and okay within these homes, again i dont know anything about these sorts of things and its just a theory that could be wrong in all sense just wanted to see opinions about it
i love you david
lol i live here close to lancaster and that shits true
That dad talk is low key kinna fuckin me up. Like oof
wait yall can still see likes on IG? cause i cant see them anymore lololol
time 40:00
Touch his fro Bro...
Shi!t Bro Y'all fuck me up with this sh!t man. FUK ME UP!!! Mother died when I was eight after giving birth to my lil borther. Dad had to raise my lil brother, so he neglect me and my siblings and so I looked up to my older brother like a father figure. Brother ended up giving me false hope like David's cousin did and we drifted apart. Brother ended up a deadbeat, drug addicted, pet/GF beater and now I hate him with every fiber of my soul. FUKEN SH!T YO! Making me understand my trauma through listening to y'all two. This shit hurts. Mommy issues, daddy issues, brother issues, and probably some more sh!t too and I am only 23.
Khaliiiiiiif!!!
Let me make this very clear before this is posted in this comments. I've been to certain areas on the internet on purpose but fountains by accident that I didn't mean to see.
With that said, David. That lady look like she was getting off on it because she was. She did. They're actually sick people out there that sexually get off on physically beating and torturing kids. I haven't seen actual real-life footage myself. I've only seen art depicting this because the art made by these people are usually people who are into this stuff.
And they make this are either because it's a form of therapy, or they can actually do the singing in real life and they just happen to have good art skills. And they put it into a morbid fucked up project.
I only know about this because usually I would look for something else only just come on to that. I never thought that would be considered rule 34. For some it is
Get china mac on this podcast.....
yesssir