Bruch SHOWDOWN 🎻 ft. Janine Jansen, Itzhak Perlman, Menuhin & Maxim Vengerov

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
  • Want to be motivated when you practice music and learn from others? Join the Tonic community for free: tonicmusic.app/practice-together 🎵 Open to all instruments and levels!
    Let me know who is your favorite performer of the Bruch Violin Concerto 🎻
    0:00 - Intro
    0:56 - Yehudi Menuhin
    4:24 - Maxim Vengerov
    9:59 - Itzhak Perlman
    12:41 - Janine Jansen

КОМЕНТАРІ • 278

  • @RayChenViolinist
    @RayChenViolinist  3 місяці тому +19

    Want to hear how I practice? Download Tonic for free and follow my profile: tonicmusic.app/join-in You'll get notified every time I practice 🎻

    • @Xphqntom
      @Xphqntom 3 місяці тому +2

      Already did it !!!
      :D

    • @user-jo2gg2dl1m
      @user-jo2gg2dl1m 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Xphqntomi see you everywhere

    • @Xphqntom
      @Xphqntom 3 місяці тому +1

      @@user-jo2gg2dl1m stalker ? Or are you a violist...

    • @user-jo2gg2dl1m
      @user-jo2gg2dl1m 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Xphqntom im a violinist

    • @Xphqntom
      @Xphqntom 3 місяці тому

      @@user-jo2gg2dl1m but violinist dont stalk , violist stalk :V

  • @garputhefork
    @garputhefork 3 місяці тому +202

    I read this as "Brunch showdown," and I'd totally watch a video with Ray having brunch with Jansen, Perlman, et al.

    • @agatafurczyk9149
      @agatafurczyk9149 3 місяці тому +3

      my device actually corRectEd my comment to 'brunch' - good I'd noticed it before posting 😆

    • @cellokid5104
      @cellokid5104 3 місяці тому

      Same

    • @emilythielen6700
      @emilythielen6700 3 місяці тому

      I'm 100% down to watch this as content but must include a croissant-eating contest🥐

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Місяць тому

      Random but yeah I’m in

  • @lucienazario2786
    @lucienazario2786 3 місяці тому +28

    I love the way Maxim Vengerov plays this concerto. His interpretation shows more emotions. His playing is great!!! 😊

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 3 місяці тому

      Yes, his tone and feeling is exquisite which fits this concerto very well.

  • @Ving_Tsun_Devotee
    @Ving_Tsun_Devotee 3 місяці тому +42

    Janine Jansen played Bruch once with the orchestra I used to play in, was cool to have shared in her performance 😊

  • @sarahcowan1489
    @sarahcowan1489 3 місяці тому +18

    Janine Jansen is a ROCK STAR!!! The way she attacks the piece, truly brilliant, masterful 🌟

  • @AusSkyLFT
    @AusSkyLFT 3 місяці тому +5

    Janine is one of my all-time favorites. One of my biggest musical inspirations as I’ve gotten older. ☺️

  • @zzp1
    @zzp1 2 місяці тому

    This is great. I learn to listen with other ears.

  • @veronicaanton695
    @veronicaanton695 2 місяці тому +3

    Vengerov, I love a man who isn't afraid of being vulnerable, who shows us he has a thousand hearts for every emotion

  • @mrkoelle
    @mrkoelle 3 місяці тому +9

    I’m really enjoying these showdown videos where Ray analyzes the performances of the same piece by different violinists.

  • @ddgn
    @ddgn 3 місяці тому +16

    absolutely in love with vengerov's musicality, it always shines, especially in romantic pieces. anyways I love these videos on interpretation, keep it up!

  • @Ilcannone1743aficionado
    @Ilcannone1743aficionado 2 місяці тому

    Vengerov my favorite!!!

  • @user-lv6xe7vq3i
    @user-lv6xe7vq3i 3 місяці тому +2

    Bruch has been my favorite for a long time

  • @MD-ct9bm
    @MD-ct9bm 3 місяці тому +5

    Janine offcourse! I love her playing, how she throws her whole heart in it and she is such a lovely person as well.

  • @kelleyforeman
    @kelleyforeman 3 місяці тому +7

    No one plays a romantic concerto quite like Janine! Her phrasing is always exciting!

  • @Aezandris
    @Aezandris 3 місяці тому +32

    Would love to hear hadelich in some of these comparisons for any piece that might come up in the future!

    • @BexWty
      @BexWty 3 місяці тому +5

      Augustin's Brahms and Barber are beautiful. He plays with such emotion, I could listen to him all day long.

    • @micaelabonetti949
      @micaelabonetti949 3 місяці тому +1

      Me too!
      Please, Ray!!! 🙏

    • @elliechoi._.
      @elliechoi._. 3 місяці тому +3

      Anything Hadelich ❤

    • @quest-cequecesttonvisage
      @quest-cequecesttonvisage 3 місяці тому

      spiccyy

  • @francinewaldman6206
    @francinewaldman6206 2 місяці тому

    My all time favorite is David Oistrach

  • @nabilahshuaib67
    @nabilahshuaib67 3 місяці тому +12

    I absolutely love these review videos you do, breaking down the thought behind the soloist mind almost. I think Augustin Hadelich would be a great soloist to review because of his emotion and interesting approaches to famous pieces!

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 3 місяці тому +16

    I think Ray's explanation why Menuhin's interpretation of the romantic bit seems to be dragging makes a lot of sense. Also I think we're just used to hearing this type of phrasing, where there is direction.

    • @M_SC
      @M_SC Місяць тому +2

      It’s a developed explanation for a lot of things. The complicated tv shows of the 1980s are dull to even children today

  • @giraffecolor5681
    @giraffecolor5681 3 місяці тому +2

    love these types of videos! thank you!!!

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai 3 місяці тому +13

    Unbelievable how the orchestra kind of adapts the style of Vengorov in the third movement! What a vibe there!

  • @kristintripp967
    @kristintripp967 3 місяці тому +3

    Perlman's bowing was so fun to watch! 🤩

  • @gae11e
    @gae11e 3 місяці тому +2

    Team Janine 😍 Saw her live 2 weeks ago playing Sibelius, that was ... just wow.

  • @theevilduckling7272
    @theevilduckling7272 3 місяці тому +11

    I hope you do Bach chaconne soon. It's such a classic piece, with so many good interpretations by Hilary hahn, gitlis, Menuhin, etc!

  • @YYWYYWYYW
    @YYWYYWYYW 3 місяці тому +5

    Always love watching and listening to Ray playing Bruch and Brahms 3rd movement! ❤️🎻✨

  • @claires3528
    @claires3528 3 місяці тому +3

    Ray, I'm embarrassed to admit, but before these videos of yours I didn't think there was any difference when different people played a particular piece of classical music. I thought all the recordings were the same! Thank you for gently stretching our ears, brains & hearts. 😂❤

  • @santiagof5511
    @santiagof5511 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this. You got the best content on violin playing ❤

  • @paulandrews8140
    @paulandrews8140 3 місяці тому +90

    I was brought up on Perlman, the pure joy of his playing always comes through on recordings. Many modern violinist seem to have forgotten this.

    • @twoblink
      @twoblink 3 місяці тому +4

      Then you were brought up right!

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 3 місяці тому

      violin playing style has greatly changed since the black n white era to now digital content... today soloists have their own interpretation of each piece and comparing them on Qobuz is a breeze...

    • @Proud_Troll
      @Proud_Troll 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@fatdoi003 I personally dislike when soloists play the piece the way they want.
      I don't think Perlman alters the piece, he just plays everything more expressively.

    • @luc8254
      @luc8254 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Proud_Troll both ways of playing are great and necessary, don't get too hung up on one way or another to do music. Both ways of viewing it are equally as valid

  • @bogumiauczak8018
    @bogumiauczak8018 3 місяці тому +4

    Ray, You are a spectaculare and wonderful artist, unique on our planet. THANK YOU só much. ❤❤❤

  • @Aaron-xq6hv
    @Aaron-xq6hv 3 місяці тому +4

    Should've done this video about Bruch 2 and 3, no one would've ever seen it coming.

  • @milanchristi7939
    @milanchristi7939 3 місяці тому

    Terrific video! Thanks for sharing!

  • @MrDaduh59
    @MrDaduh59 3 місяці тому +3

    More of these comparisons please!

  • @ynot5478
    @ynot5478 3 місяці тому +2

    This was such an enjoyable video-thank you for sharing what to listen for.

  • @BexWty
    @BexWty 3 місяці тому +5

    I absolutely love the bruch concerto, it melts my heart. I think my favourite version personally is Heifetz's version which isn't featured in this video but they are all fantastic in their own way. Loving these comparison videos xx

  • @2LUV3VIOLin28
    @2LUV3VIOLin28 3 місяці тому

    I love Bruch violin concerto. I'm looking forward to learning it one day.

  • @robertwalker7924
    @robertwalker7924 3 місяці тому

    I so enjoyed your post Ray, thankyou. and your ideas on Menuhin especially.

  • @greggoryrice7046
    @greggoryrice7046 3 місяці тому +5

    Vengerov. He is special and has been since he arrived on stage.

  • @vartolomei55
    @vartolomei55 3 дні тому

    I discover quite recently Augustn Hadelich ,what`s your opinion about him ? Tks.
    P.S . - Love your videous .

  • @pinkpinkpanther
    @pinkpinkpanther 3 місяці тому

    Love this piece. Love your review. I can’t play violin but I have learnt something here.

  • @jonychavez5404
    @jonychavez5404 3 місяці тому

    More of these videos, please

  • @user-lv6xe7vq3i
    @user-lv6xe7vq3i 3 місяці тому +2

    Finale from bruch is my favorite

  • @familiedronkers2305
    @familiedronkers2305 3 місяці тому +1

    Perlman’s playing is majestic and Janine’s playing is magical ❤

  • @user-lo1in3op5w
    @user-lo1in3op5w 3 місяці тому

    thank you😊

  • @antonvf9619
    @antonvf9619 3 місяці тому

    fantastic!

  • @rameshpanta8062
    @rameshpanta8062 8 днів тому

    I guess you can call it: different poems of the same piece !

  • @nin_pi_nin
    @nin_pi_nin 3 місяці тому

    I REALLY would love to listen to your Bruch concerto.
    SERIOUSLY

  • @hectorberlioz1449
    @hectorberlioz1449 3 місяці тому +2

    I like to mention the versions by Milstein and Francescatti! These are imho the very best renderings of the Bruch concerto!

  • @duggiefresh8170
    @duggiefresh8170 3 місяці тому +20

    I always hear that little boy when I hear Menuhin. Pure Innocence. No other violinist has this quality. He retained this even into old age.

    • @duggiefresh8170
      @duggiefresh8170 3 місяці тому +3

      @sprickenville I'm not talking about technical perfection. His technique went a bit sideways as he aged. Obviously. I'm talking about a certain quality to his tone that is very special and unique. I prefer his vulnerable innocence to many of the technically perfect players today.

  • @notmyrealname6272
    @notmyrealname6272 3 місяці тому +4

    Love them all but Janjne is the one who a. Utterly moves me and b. Makes me want to rush and get my violin out. ❤

  • @ssbmg
    @ssbmg 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Ray! My 15yo daughter has won 2 competitions this Spring with this concerto with a 3rd coming up tomorrow. These videos are super helpful and insightful. Please keep them coming! Looking forward to seeing you perform in Boulder, CO next month.

  • @wjlin1
    @wjlin1 3 місяці тому

    Wow! great video and interpretation for each musician !

  • @joeldawsey
    @joeldawsey 3 місяці тому

    Thank you Ray. I really enjoy these types of videos. I'm trying to learn this piece at the moment and found it helps to look at these performers. I've been modeling my bowings and fingerings after the Vengerov video.

  • @ondrejkratochvil4589
    @ondrejkratochvil4589 3 місяці тому +8

    Well I've listened to couple of other interpretations in the past days as well - Chloe Chua, Hillary Hahan, Julia Fischer, Maria Duenas, Zukerman, Oistrach... the 3rd movement is really iconic, you could literally do a "Bruch playoffs" :)

  • @jh.y00N
    @jh.y00N 3 місяці тому

    Ray, your videos are entertaining and informative and bring me closer to understanding the violin. As always, thank you deeply✨👍🏻👍🏻💯🥰

  • @almightyhydra
    @almightyhydra 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm going Team Jansen. So much passion

  • @theadventuresofelilefty1254
    @theadventuresofelilefty1254 Місяць тому

    I prefer your interpretation!!!! I just felt the darker tones were best when you interpreted them and it shows, sincerely the guy with the bow tie😎😎🫡

  • @RayChenViolinist
    @RayChenViolinist  3 місяці тому +9

    Now you know how to sound like Janine, go practice on Tonic: tonicmusic.app/join-in and share your progress with everyone!

  • @charged7177
    @charged7177 3 місяці тому

    You know Ray truly enjoys playing the violin when instantly his faces expressions change when playing it, although for a brief moment.

  • @user-fi9ku9mm7t
    @user-fi9ku9mm7t 3 місяці тому +2

    Ray Hello can you play Bruch s Violin concerto no. 1 please thank you so much

  • @michaelsproule2508
    @michaelsproule2508 3 місяці тому +1

    Have a listen to Menuhin's 1931 recording, at age 15. I always love Menuhin, but this particular recording is fantastic!

  • @RobW1836
    @RobW1836 3 місяці тому +2

    I WANT Vengerov's violin! It's stunning...

  • @jessicawong3081
    @jessicawong3081 3 місяці тому +4

    Ok is it normal that I want Ray to react to Chloe Chua play Bruch?

  • @jakobhaertel2258
    @jakobhaertel2258 3 місяці тому +5

    Woah the Bruch violin concerto is my favourite out there and I've never listened to Verengov's version. While I didn't quite like his 3rd movement as much even the small bit of the second movement ray listened to here sent shivers up and down my spine damn. His second movement really is something special. Janine's, Hilary's and also Maria Duenas' third movement are simply unbeatable imo because they play it with such raw powerr and technically perfect, always a pure joy to listen to.

    • @jackburgess8579
      @jackburgess8579 3 місяці тому +1

      >>"Maria Duenas' third movement are simply unbeatable imo because they play it with such raw powerr and technically perfect"
      MD's Bruch third movement is very far from technically perfect - it is a mess, really - and her "raw power" is inappropriate.

  • @UnshavenStatue
    @UnshavenStatue 3 місяці тому +10

    Dude your editor is amazing, I dunno how they do it but the perfect additives to accompany your narrative, never too much, never distracting from you, and yet just the right emphasis and "reactions" to add visual flavor with your voice. well done

  • @leonardobastos1945
    @leonardobastos1945 3 місяці тому +1

    Veeeery gooood... 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @nathanbenzour
    @nathanbenzour 3 місяці тому +23

    I hope you will review Maria Dueñas her rendition. My absolute favourite by a mile!!! Especially the third movement is so good.

    • @koboldy1
      @koboldy1 3 місяці тому +3

      oh yes! I am listening to it nonstop! Love it

    • @jackburgess8579
      @jackburgess8579 3 місяці тому +4

      MD's performance of the work is a mess.

    • @Tripod-ld4qv
      @Tripod-ld4qv 3 місяці тому +3

      I agree, it’s visually interesting but inferior if you just listen to it.

  • @shannonmoro401
    @shannonmoro401 3 місяці тому

    Very nice video. Yes I really enjoy the 3rd movement also.

  • @yawenliu6648
    @yawenliu6648 3 місяці тому +1

    I love Kyung Wha Chung's 1970s live version, would love to hear you elaborate on her playing from a top pro's perspective

  • @claire-921
    @claire-921 3 місяці тому +11

    I would personally prefer Perlman. Not only is he one of my favorite soloists, he has this constant feeling of confidence and and perfection. It is so solid and specific, making it one of the best styles to learn from. As a fellow violinist, I find listening to Itzhak Perlman's recording of Saint Saens Violin Concerto No.3 and Tchaikovksy Violin Concerto extremely helpful before I play them.

  • @nafizzeybek5300
    @nafizzeybek5300 3 місяці тому +3

    My favourite bruch concerto is yours

  • @Maryum.Batool
    @Maryum.Batool 3 місяці тому +1

    I first heard Ray's Bruch when I stumbled on a video on his instagram of him rehearsing the third movement. I was absolutely floored by the passion, the intensity, the foot stomping, lol. Ray's playing made this one of my favourite concertos and I've never been able to listen to any other artist after hearing that.

  • @ann_classical
    @ann_classical 3 місяці тому

    It’s Bruch! Thanks for sharing! I learned a lot!❤❤❤

  • @a.r.mackinnon2451
    @a.r.mackinnon2451 3 місяці тому

    I'm always amazed by how little Menuhin and Heifetz' hands move performing vibrato.

  • @violintrapper
    @violintrapper Місяць тому

    listen to Fritz Kreisler"s Bruch. It's in a class of it"s own.

  • @dkalir
    @dkalir 3 місяці тому

    Ray - you’re a true master! You’re so inspiring, and your sense of awe and wonder are palpable! Thanks so much, again, for this wonderful idea! Two quick suggestions: first, include the yer of the performance (Menuchin? 1950s?). Second, include Gil Shazam (you did mention Dorothy Delay…). Thanks again. Awesome!

  • @HappyGothGal
    @HappyGothGal 3 місяці тому +1

    I can't possibly be the only one who misread the title and was excited for a "Brunch Showdown"

  • @simon0yeung
    @simon0yeung 3 місяці тому +1

    For Bruch, it’ll be Kyung Wha Chung’s version. So much feels and energy

  • @christophe2570
    @christophe2570 3 місяці тому +10

    Why are these videos so short? A longer version would be nice. Attention spans just shrinking these days...

    • @linglingss_-
      @linglingss_- 3 місяці тому

      not everyone has the time. deal with it

    • @dannyboy2267
      @dannyboy2267 3 місяці тому +2

      @@linglingss_- Although you're right to an extent, that's a pretty ignorant way to respond in my opinion. UA-cam is a learning platform for many people in many different topics, which can be anything from computer programming to cooking. Shorter style videos like this one are only at surface level when it comes to the art of violin playing, not to mention he's analysing and reacting to other world class violinists who are at the top of the industry. I understand that shorter videos with simple and easily understandable analysis are more accesible to non musicians, but if a violinist of Chen's caliber is analysing other soloists, I think that it'd be more educational, interesting, and beneficial to all the other musicians (music students, children, adults, proffessionals etc.), who I presume are the majority of his audience. If you don't have a lot of time, you can always come back to a video later.

  • @DBogie
    @DBogie 3 місяці тому

    I gotta say Ray, thank you for making this video. I’ve got a solo and ensemble contest coming up in about 2 weeks, and I’m playing mvt 3 for it. I appreciate the insight.

  • @abyss7050
    @abyss7050 3 місяці тому +1

    as someone who is trying to learn bruch i see this as a win

  • @sacosec
    @sacosec 3 місяці тому

    For me, Kyung Wha Chung’s 1972 recording of the Bruch VC with Rudolf Kempe and the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra is still the best.

  • @CottonCandyTheWW2Geek
    @CottonCandyTheWW2Geek 3 місяці тому +3

    Vengerov’s version was amazing

  • @FreydaStern
    @FreydaStern 3 місяці тому

    Notes in Pearlman's music is clear just like Ray's and hits me hard

  • @adambe1126
    @adambe1126 3 місяці тому +1

    I saw Daishin Kashimoto (first concertmaster of Berlin Phil) play this last year in Nottingham UK and I was blown away. His sound is just so dark and rich and perfect for Bruch.
    Especially in the second movement, his mastery and control over the long lines was just incredible. I've seen many of the current worlds top soloists (vengerov, ehnes, hadelich to name a few) and none of them came close to kashimoto in my opinion. It's such a shame he doesn't perform solo a little bit more. He deserves more recognition.

  • @silentstringquartet
    @silentstringquartet 3 місяці тому

    My first experience with Bruch is a recording by Chloe Hanslip . It was amazing and set as my comparison point to other violinist. thanks for this video once again.

  • @kj62431
    @kj62431 3 місяці тому +3

    I am a big Vengerov fan. His articulations are always fresh and new. His putting it away and then waiting to bring it out again really fosters the fresh sound.

  • @ItzTiger1217
    @ItzTiger1217 3 місяці тому +1

    You missed Hilary Hahn's Bruch Violin Concerto

    • @ItzTiger1217
      @ItzTiger1217 3 місяці тому

      Can you do Beethoven Violin Concerto showdown next? :)

  • @guillermoramirez8444
    @guillermoramirez8444 3 місяці тому +1

    I always associated the Bruch with Pinchas Zukerman. I guess there are no videos of Zukerman's earlier interpretations to be able to include him in a video like this one. Agree Menuhin's interpretation projects a lack of emotion and that is a thing of his period. Like Menuhin, I prefer the emphasis that is given to that initial phrase starting with an upbow. Maxim Vengerov is my favorite. The recording is so spacious. The light and camera angles also help a lot in showing this is a big concert. His emotions are so aligned with what is being played. I wish Janine Jansen's video recording/production was better in this sense because her interpretation is so good but the video recording feels small; Never zoomed out, dark background. Agree Perlman is a confident interpretation, and the bow, wonderful! Don't like when he is pulling ahead of the orchestra in some parts. Love your description of lacking vulnerability. Thanks for another awesome video.

  • @lucaspiano
    @lucaspiano 3 місяці тому +6

    For me the best performance I've ever heard and watched is with Hilary Hahn! Hilary is a legend today. Indeed!

    • @chia_s_ee_d
      @chia_s_ee_d 3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed! Her and Anne Sophie are my faves for this piece ❤

    • @Jay-gl1ch
      @Jay-gl1ch 3 місяці тому

      fr fr, Bruch peaked at that performance

  • @emilythielen6700
    @emilythielen6700 3 місяці тому

    🌛

  • @Dilsli
    @Dilsli 3 місяці тому

    I looooove these videos! Please, keep them coming! A suggestion: you could make a video where you'd play a really easy piece, with different interpretations. So that we noobs could try at home to use what you'd shared ND improve our playing. Like an easy piece of the first 2, or 3 Suzuki books.

  • @olgawigunadharma18
    @olgawigunadharma18 3 місяці тому +1

    Have you heard the ones played by Kyung Wa Chung...? She has great interpretation of the Bruch Concerto as well in my opinion...

  • @reeser8
    @reeser8 3 місяці тому +1

    Person on a horse; yearning for it, but not quite getting it....I absolutely love all the analogies he makes to connect the music with emotion. From this, it is clear that a 10 year old prodigy, as technically advanced she or he is, cannot possibly be expresing these interpretations firsthand. They are merely mimicking the sound secondhand without the life experience to transmit their own emotions through the piece firsthand. Theirs is a secondhand performance, no matter how close it is to the real deal. Good on Vengerov for sitting out this piece for 24 years, enough time for him to unlearn the ingrained secondhand emotions, and give a fresh interpretation from his own heart.

  • @jojobeanz2981
    @jojobeanz2981 3 місяці тому +1

    Midori is my favorite

  • @rae9665
    @rae9665 3 місяці тому

    My favorite version is Sarah Chang's , her interpretation of Bruch is "chefs kiss"

  • @42353452
    @42353452 3 місяці тому +3

    Perlman is my favorite. He is like music itself

  • @oskar6615
    @oskar6615 3 місяці тому

    Love this series! Can we get barber violin concerto too🤩

  • @maaikedam4909
    @maaikedam4909 3 місяці тому

    My favorite recording is of Diana Adamyan in the 2018 Menuhin competition (which she won, by the way). She puts so much emotion into the piece.

  • @MP-ni7el
    @MP-ni7el 3 місяці тому +1

    I prefer Menuhin and Perlman. Both have a warm tone that I think suits this piece. The other two produce sound that is too, I'm not sure what word to use, maybe steely? The Bruch, for me (I'm a senior and wonder if there is a generational difference in how we react to sound style), should be full of lush and beautiful emotion. Are Menuhin and Perlman playing the same violin or ones that seem alike? Which violins are Jansen and Vengerov playing?

  • @txsphere
    @txsphere 3 місяці тому

    Not a violinist but love these comparisons of interpretation. My compliments to the editor, the military picture in particular was funny. Been watching some Trixie and Katya videos?

  • @chia_s_ee_d
    @chia_s_ee_d 3 місяці тому +1

    My faves are Mutter and Hilary!!!!