They seem to pursue unique colorways with Endorphin. Reverie with 2, pink with 3. Those seemed bit tacky. Mutant was straightforward (no gradient) but effective as a visual symbol. You could tell what it was from afar.
I actually a pair of that v.1 still going strong. Don't know how many miles, but closer to a thousand than a hundred. Really turned my head when I saw the color theme come back!
V2 are my all-time favorite Saucony shoe. Wish I had bought more and stockpiled them. I've got a couple pairs stashed away that I'll occasionally pull out for special speed workouts.
Saucony should always release ‘White Mutant’ color-way in every Endorphin series!!! (And in Endorphin apparel and socks color way as well!!!) P.S.Going to buy this colorway Endorphin series this year
My faviourite was/is version 1 and 2. Fast and great snug fit. Can be used for race day and training. Speed 3 I am disappointed. No more a race day shoe. I use it for training only. Also it is a bulky shoe. Speed4 I have not bought because it goes up in weight. Hope spped5 will be again a fast light shoe I can use for race day as well.
bro, i appreciate connor being very enthusiastic every single time he talks about shoes but most of the times his enthusiasm gets the best of him. like dude forgets to ask the basic questions like stack, drop, and weight.
I'd say its pre-agreed which questions he can ask/what info they want to give. Like the Nike volmero 18/peg premium, there was a lack chat about the weight, even though that was the obvious question
@frontierlandfrank5314 Didn't say the actual weight but said/refured to a weight drop. I saw elsewhere today that its still heavier than version 1 and 2, so I assume they meant the 3 and 4. A little misleading but at leastnits heading in the right direction
Love the iconic colourway, almost classic by now. Sad however to see the outsole pattern loose the forward arrows that have always been somewhat present up until last version.
Looks awesome. The 4 is definitely a "fast" shoe, whereas the 3 was more towards daily training and a bit more comfort. Looking forward to seeing how the 5 pans out.
This guy actually says things when he talks instead of just using big words. Respect. Big scaries on the plate redesign tho…the winged plate has been a winning formula for a long time in this shoe. Will wait n see.
The winged plate has only been there for v3-4. v1-2 just had a non-winged plate like most carbon plates, and so it's only fitting that v5 tries an in-between approach?
1-2 were gold. They ruined it with the 3. 4 looked slow but havnt tried. 5 has the iconic OG’s vines which is intriguing but why even put a wing on a speed shoe!
V.4 is the best so far. I had the v.1 and v.2, they were almost identical with some upper refinements. I skipped v.3 because it was like an ordinary daily trainer on steroids, but average generally. V.4 had these og elements plus a wider and stable midsole. I hope that the v.4 key characteristics are kept on v.5
Funny to see so many comments love the colorway and note it looks like V1. I refused to buy anything Saucony until V3 because it finally wasn't so ugly. Different strokes.
Please let this be more like the 1st and 2nd iteration. The 3 was flat for me and the 4 is ok but not giving me the same pop as the 1 and 2. I will still get the 5 as I have hope
Yo tengo la v3 y he de decir que es la mejor zapatilla de entrenamiento que he tenido nunca, y eso q he tenido de casi todas las marcas. Con lo que dura la v4 no la tengo, pero esta probablemente me la compraré al 99%
Love the 4. The technical changes do sound good on this but definitely not a fan of the colour scheme. Going to wait until it’s released and stock up on a couple of pairs of 4’s hopefully on reduced price.
The stability plate *wings* in the Speeds since version 3 need to be excised. A neutral super trainer should not include interventionist stability elements. The wings on the Speed 3 dig into some runners' arches and detrimentally augment the gait cycle which can cause foot and knee pain.
I gör horrible chafing in my heels from the Speed 4. Which is a shame cos I loved the ride in them. Bit my heels couldn't take it. The heel counter looks different on these , maybe they will work..
Brooooo how do you NOT ask stack height and weight!???? 😝 Please tell me you know it 😮 Lastly, did anyone notice that the Teal and Orange colorway is the same as the entire new line from Brooks?? 👀
Perhaps it's not a great sign if they are just updated from Speed 4, which is a slight downgrade in versatility compared to the Speed series before. I wished Speed 5 could get an extra 2mm increase in heel and toe for long-run sessions. Anyway, what an early tease for June 2025 launching I'm more interested in Endorphin trainer definitely!
The Speed 4 was terrible: - Not enough rocker compared to 1/2/3 - Bulky heal that protruded further back resulting in premature heal-strike - Non-essential overlay/stitching on tongue that caused irritation. - Bulky heal counter - Overall it just felt like a bulky trainer. I gave em two demo runs then returned. I can see why Saucony is eager to announce the next version. From what i see it may still fall short of the 1/2/3 but I'll wait for the actual reviews and consider trying them out.
Sculpting the midsole for weight savings and/or performance? Awesome. Sculpting it for aesthetics? Meh. I'd rather see cost savings from a simpler manufacturing process.
It was a great Speed shoe until you incompetents turned it into a crawl shoe. The 4 was a slower shoe than the 2. The 3 was crap. The Speed was a great race shoe for slower runners. I do hope you "brilliant geniuses" do not ruin it again. The clip is, as usual, useless publicity.
Treadmill testing 3 was when I stopped buying Endorphin Speed. Too much nerfing between 2 and 3. That one lost the Endorphin Speed branding for me. Hopefully they can bring back similar OG goodness in more modernized package.
Terrible sculpting of the midsole, and the midsole coloring makes it look like all heel, no forefoot, which is quite unappealing going into 2025. The OG color way does little to bring back the look of that first shoe. Wondering if Saucony is trying to kill these off a bit in favor of other models?
Man, this colorway is iconic ❤
So many great memories in the OG
@@KoIhara Indeed. I still have Endorphin speed and shift 1 OG colorway
Hopefully have a different colour than this one. Some might like it but not for me.
They seem to pursue unique colorways with Endorphin. Reverie with 2, pink with 3. Those seemed bit tacky. Mutant was straightforward (no gradient) but effective as a visual symbol. You could tell what it was from afar.
Eh, it may be iconic but it’s not that great looking lol
That color coming back will bring back a lot of customers for sure. It even has some of the vibes of the first generation.
I actually a pair of that v.1 still going strong. Don't know how many miles, but closer to a thousand than a hundred. Really turned my head when I saw the color theme come back!
V2 are my all-time favorite Saucony shoe. Wish I had bought more and stockpiled them. I've got a couple pairs stashed away that I'll occasionally pull out for special speed workouts.
I love this right away. This looks better than Speed 4 already to me. Less bulk in the heel. Better looking!
Amen - hope it’s regained more aggressive rocker too
The color 😍. I still have a pair of 1’s that I run in. These look like it’s back to the original
I still have a pair of version one in the same colorway. And they are still performing quite well.
I also have the 1 and 4, the speed 1 is more bouncy than the 4
Stoked for this. Love my 3 and 4. Saucony Trainer looks intriguing as well.
Re-release the 2’s I beg you
Best version by far!
funny he said this is more off the speed 4 when other reps say they bring the 2 and 3 feeling back :P
Such a good idea going back to the beginning re colorway.
Saucony should always release ‘White Mutant’ color-way in every Endorphin series!!! (And in Endorphin apparel and socks color way as well!!!)
P.S.Going to buy this colorway Endorphin series this year
If they make track jacket in the mutant styling, I’m all for it. Gotta make it happen!
@@KoIhara Yes sir 🫡
My faviourite was/is version 1 and 2. Fast and great snug fit. Can be used for race day and training. Speed 3 I am disappointed. No more a race day shoe. I use it for training only. Also it is a bulky shoe. Speed4 I have not bought because it goes up in weight. Hope spped5 will be again a fast light shoe I can use for race day as well.
Nahhh 3 was the best by far
@@frontierlandfrank5314 nah 3 lost the magic
Just bring back the original Speed; problem solved. Could even do a limited time only sale like the McRibb 😂
👍🏻 with better grip
@ yes! Good callout
Yes. Best shoe ever made. Just less squeak
Original speed with the speed 2 firmness and speed 4 stack height and toebox
All I ever wanted was a v1 (maybe 2) with some better outsole rubber for grip. If this is close to it then sign me up.
Finally. A great colorway from saucony. Those speed 4 colorways were 🥴
My Number 1 fav non carbon plated daily trainer is still speed 1.
experienced heel drag when I run on the 4th version, hope this one would get better similar to the 3rd version
I just hope that it lives up to the hype. From the video it's looking like a good update.
Buying two pairs! Take my money now
V1 colorway. Nice!
looks like a mach 6
That was my first thought too--looks like a copy and paste of the Mach 6 silhouette
Thinks it looks like the OG Speed 1 😉
The OG is back. Can’t wait
The GOAT is back!
Buying a pair just because of the Mutant colorways. (The original Speed, Ride, and Triumph were my favorite)
bro, i appreciate connor being very enthusiastic every single time he talks about shoes but most of the times his enthusiasm gets the best of him. like dude forgets to ask the basic questions like stack, drop, and weight.
I'd say its pre-agreed which questions he can ask/what info they want to give. Like the Nike volmero 18/peg premium, there was a lack chat about the weight, even though that was the obvious question
He said the weight? Also, drop is gonna be 8 like all of Saucony endorphins line.
@frontierlandfrank5314 Didn't say the actual weight but said/refured to a weight drop. I saw elsewhere today that its still heavier than version 1 and 2, so I assume they meant the 3 and 4. A little misleading but at leastnits heading in the right direction
@@palmyarmyswim they said it’s 8 oz in the video
Good morning. ¡¡¡¡¡¡Saucony E. speed 5 for ever!!!!!!. Thanks Connor. Like. Cheers.
Love the iconic colourway, almost classic by now. Sad however to see the outsole pattern loose the forward arrows that have always been somewhat present up until last version.
Looks awesome. The 4 is definitely a "fast" shoe, whereas the 3 was more towards daily training and a bit more comfort. Looking forward to seeing how the 5 pans out.
This looks great. I was disappointed with the 3 but the 4 as my training shoe, with the pro 4 as my race shoe, got me a PB in my last marathon.
Welcome back, Mutant Green colorway!
Definitely getting these in the OG colors 🤩🔥👌😁🥳
This guy actually says things when he talks instead of just using big words. Respect.
Big scaries on the plate redesign tho…the winged plate has been a winning formula for a long time in this shoe. Will wait n see.
The winged plate has only been there for v3-4. v1-2 just had a non-winged plate like most carbon plates, and so it's only fitting that v5 tries an in-between approach?
1-2 were gold. They ruined it with the 3. 4 looked slow but havnt tried. 5 has the iconic OG’s vines which is intriguing but why even put a wing on a speed shoe!
Yeah the wing plate is a problem for me too
100 percent agree!
Wing removed on lateral side? I'm sold!
Loved my 1 (best ever), hate the 4, this looks like more like the 1. Good. The 4 is much slower than the 1. The 1 is the best supertrainer ever.
Speed 1 is GOAT
Connor make sure you mention the overuse of plates when you do the Kinvara Pro 2, I mean Endorphin Trainer video
Every performance running shoe should have a plate. Ath-leisure shoes are a different story.
V.4 is the best so far. I had the v.1 and v.2, they were almost identical with some upper refinements. I skipped v.3 because it was like an ordinary daily trainer on steroids, but average generally. V.4 had these og elements plus a wider and stable midsole. I hope that the v.4 key characteristics are kept on v.5
Please bring the wides back!!!!
v1 the goat
Thankfully there's more competition in the market now, €200+ is too much for a shoe like this
I’ll buy this one even for just the colorway.🔥
Funny to see so many comments love the colorway and note it looks like V1. I refused to buy anything Saucony until V3 because it finally wasn't so ugly. Different strokes.
This colorway is 🔥🔥🔥
Please let this be more like the 1st and 2nd iteration. The 3 was flat for me and the 4 is ok but not giving me the same pop as the 1 and 2. I will still get the 5 as I have hope
😲😲😲😲😲
Didn’t even know it was coming - 4 was only released this year
What about the laces? They were terrible on SP4. Had to change them
Looks like the Hoka Mach 6 imo
OG COLORWAY ❤
Yo tengo la v3 y he de decir que es la mejor zapatilla de entrenamiento que he tenido nunca, y eso q he tenido de casi todas las marcas. Con lo que dura la v4 no la tengo, pero esta probablemente me la compraré al 99%
Love the 4. The technical changes do sound good on this but definitely not a fan of the colour scheme. Going to wait until it’s released and stock up on a couple of pairs of 4’s hopefully on reduced price.
The stability plate *wings* in the Speeds since version 3 need to be excised. A neutral super trainer should not include interventionist stability elements. The wings on the Speed 3 dig into some runners' arches and detrimentally augment the gait cycle which can cause foot and knee pain.
Correct 👍🏻👌🏼
the speed has been getting slower maybe this will have the fun factor of V1-3
When everyone was buying them instead of the pro 1-2. The 3rd pro was a great race day shoe so they 'daily trainfied' the speed.
@@palmyarmyswim exactly. I have the pro 3 and the speed 2
The foam sculpting looks a lot like Hoka Mach 6
If it doesn't feel exactly like the 2 I don't want it
Is there a wide variety?
Oh no, he said it’s like the 4, that’s my least favorite version. I’m nervous.
why?
Love this color ways. Remind me for Speed 1. How about Endorphin Pro 5 update Or discontinued?
Bringing back the MUTANT!!!
Hope the og fit n feel comes back as the 4 lost it’s snappy soft spring only time will tell and getting it on feet with no hype
The Hokauny Mach Speed 5000
Stack height and drop? Same?
Ah Fork! I just bought the 4's
Please release it in a wide like they did in the Speed 3. There were no wides for the Speed 4.
This!!!!
I got the 4 and it was just to narrow. The 3 I could get away with a standard width but not the 4
I still have a fresh pair of OG speeds in the mutant colourway,
Will there be a Wide Option like in the 3?
I hope they offer the 5 in a wide fit, like they did with the 3.
V4 sucked. V2 were hands down the best version.
I gör horrible chafing in my heels from the Speed 4. Which is a shame cos I loved the ride in them. Bit my heels couldn't take it. The heel counter looks different on these , maybe they will work..
Ahhh, June of 2025!
Nice 👍🏿
Please make it good again, I beg you.
Can Saucony bring back their product guy with the dapper mustache?
Don't look at version 4, it's better to look at version 1+2
Brooooo how do you NOT ask stack height and weight!???? 😝
Please tell me you know it 😮
Lastly, did anyone notice that the Teal and Orange colorway is the same as the entire new line from Brooks?? 👀
I really hope, that they do no run against tje heel like version 3, that I can not wear without getting serious achilles blisters!
I wish they would fix the sole rubber. It sucks when its wet
Mutant!!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉
Weird- I intensely dislike white shoes- I got Speed 4 in charcoal
Perhaps it's not a great sign if they are just updated from Speed 4, which is a slight downgrade in versatility compared to the Speed series before. I wished Speed 5 could get an extra 2mm increase in heel and toe for long-run sessions. Anyway, what an early tease for June 2025 launching I'm more interested in Endorphin trainer definitely!
Didn't they just start selling The 4th ? 😵💫
What's the release date?
June 2025
Speed 1 and 2 amazing, 3 and 4 awful
Id love a shoe that has an altra shaped toe box, the toe box on the 4 is cramped for me :(
Mutant ❤
Don't side /back light.. Shows all that gross spittle
Looks like hoka mach x 2
The Speed 4 was terrible:
- Not enough rocker compared to 1/2/3
- Bulky heal that protruded further back resulting in premature heal-strike
- Non-essential overlay/stitching on tongue that caused irritation.
- Bulky heal counter
- Overall it just felt like a bulky trainer.
I gave em two demo runs then returned.
I can see why Saucony is eager to announce the next version. From what i see it may still fall short of the 1/2/3 but I'll wait for the actual reviews and consider trying them out.
Thanks. Early heel contact from posterior flaring ruins shoes for me. I'll give the 4 a miss
Nostalgic blast. Shoe too fast for me.
June 2025??? It's too late...
The 4 was not fast. They could've easily skipped the Pro 4 and Speed 4. Might explain why we are hearing about the 5 so soon.
Increase the stack height, 36mm feel a bit low for a super trainer nowaday, 38mm would be perfect!
For me the speed series is not a super trainer.
V1 and v2 are truly speed Trainers.
Sculpting the midsole for weight savings and/or performance? Awesome. Sculpting it for aesthetics? Meh. I'd rather see cost savings from a simpler manufacturing process.
It was a great Speed shoe until you incompetents turned it into a crawl shoe. The 4 was a slower shoe than the 2. The 3 was crap. The Speed was a great race shoe for slower runners. I do hope you "brilliant geniuses" do not ruin it again. The clip is, as usual, useless publicity.
Treadmill testing 3 was when I stopped buying Endorphin Speed. Too much nerfing between 2 and 3. That one lost the Endorphin Speed branding for me. Hopefully they can bring back similar OG goodness in more modernized package.
I loved the 3. Come on. Be fair.
I like the 4 definitely more of a tempo shoe than 2-3 5 looks like it could be a faster upgrade to the 4
Ценник конский! Bmai fly намного лучше и дешевле.
Seems... narrow.
Saucony has kind of died off for me.
Looks whack compared to the 4...
Speed 3 was best of all
With this one seems saucony goes back to its quirk looks - not a fan myself
Terrible sculpting of the midsole, and the midsole coloring makes it look like all heel, no forefoot, which is quite unappealing going into 2025. The OG color way does little to bring back the look of that first shoe. Wondering if Saucony is trying to kill these off a bit in favor of other models?
Looks very similar to the Kinvara.
oof. uggo