Thinset for Ceramic Tile Floors
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
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Tim Carter shares some tips about using thinset for installing a ceramic tile floor.He explains why using thinset mortar is fantastic for ceramic tile and how to mix it correctly.
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Great video but a little tip. You want to pour the water in the bucket first then add the mortar. It makes the mixing job a lot easier
I used thin set to level an uneven wood floor. I made it between a nectar an honey consistancy. It leveled easier like that. while it was still wet I placed cement board over it. After it dried I used a thicker thin set for laying the tile.
Thanks! I was wondering when the cavalry would arrive.
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Tim. You did a nice job on explaining the basics of thinset and how to mix it the "home owner" way. There are so many types of thinsets out there: dry-set,modified,medium bed for large tiles and even one for tiling over cracks in concrete slabs to name a few. I agree in staying away from mastic
You have the best video explaining thinset so far... Very simple, and very informative!
I'm a beginner, and I've only started tiling floors, and your video is exactly what I have been looking for :)
Thank you so much!
Yes you can. Be sure to read the label of the product to ensure it's rated for exterior use.
I do. You have to have a place to tape them..... and then the time. It takes a lot of resources to make these videos.
Thank you so much! I am renovating a bath and all your tile videos are so helpful for my success. You are going to make me look good!
@Etherglide Correct. In this video, I'm installing a dark gray tile. That's why I used gray thinset. To cover all aspects of thinset about tile floors, well that would be a one-hour video, not six minutes.
@Solarpassive Great tip. As I say all the time, there is more than one *right* way. It's whatever works best for you. I'll try my margin trowel and see what happens.
A couple of simple suggestion: use a small coffee can to get water from the larger can. Silica is a proven carcinogenic: use a paper mask to avoid breathing the dust, use knee pads or a cushion to save the integrity of your kness
@charleykocher No worries. Thank UA-cam for making this free exchange of knowledge possible. Be sure to stop back and let us know what happens. Tape a quick video of your project and load it to your channel. Then contact me and I'll add it here as a video response. We'd LOVE to see how it turns out.
Thanks! You bet a drill and mixer come in handy when you have lots to mix. It does make a smooth batch indeed!
@AsktheBuilder I have been doing tile since 1988. I have learned that the best way to mix thin set is to start with the water THEN add the thin set. Also, I find that a margin trowel makes it much easier to mix.
Whenever you have a question, go to my AsktheBuilder website, the dot com one. I have past columns there that talk all about crack release membranes.
Over here in the uk we have the same sort of product that goes off in 2-3 hours so it can take light foot traffic and when on wood it has a arcylic addative to make it flexiable for a wooden floor. White adehisve we use for mainly fixing natural light colour stones and all porcelains as they stain.
@zmanifest I'd love to see the peanut butter you use. The one I use, if I were to turn the jar upside down, it would *never* come out of the jar. Turn over my bucket of thinset after I've mixed it up, and it WILL flow out of the bucket - not rapidly like water, but it will flow.
They are made for anyone that doesn't know what was discussed in the video. There is an entire *series* of these about the different steps. You can't put all the info in one video. Keep searching.....my channel. And if you still feel they are incomplete, maybe you should tape some if you have knowledge in this area.
How is that anything like pancake mix?
It will be like rock when you reopen the lid. The bagged product is cement-based. The chemical reaction hydration happens when you mix it with water. The premixed stuff is acrylic-based and hardens the same way paint does when it is exposed to air.
I like watching your vids. Makes me feel I'm working with the grandfather I never had. :)
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Your comment makes me think you've never mixed pancake batter to the right consistency. Go watch a chef do it. :-> Or better yet, just trust what I say and mix your thinset the way I show. You have the option of making it stiffer or wetter. Do it all three ways and come back and tell us which way works better to ensure the tile stays permanently bonded to the floor. :->>>>
Excellent video. Here's my issue: I've got diagonal planks over floor joists, and atop that is plywood (don't know the thickness). Previous owners put sheet-laminate on the plywood. Most of it is torn up but there is some very stuck on portions. Tried scraping with a putty knife and hammer under the edges with minor success. Also tried a heat gun to goo-ify the old adhesive. Can I lay backboard over it? Should I remove the plywood and put backerboard on subfloor planks? What's my best option?
If you are doing a bathroom and have the toilet pulled out, don't put any left over thinset down the sewage pipe. I had a contractor do that in my last house. Cost me $50 to have someone come out and clear the pipe. Of course that was after I spent a day trying to figure out the problem myself. Thankfully, the contractor owned up to it and reimbursed me.
@The03235012 You can, but it will be rock hard when you go to use it. What is your motivation for doing such a thing? There are retardants that you can put in to slow or suspend the hydration reaction, but why not just mix the material fresh when you need it?
Commander, you missed the point in the video. This video is for beginners and it says right on the bag of mix it's just fine to add water to the powder. And as for plastering, we have quite a few talented master plasterers over here in the Colonies. I went to your channel, and there's not one video there about what you know. I suggest you channel all this energy you seem to have into making videos that show us what you claim to know.
Just to pick up on a small point. You use white thin set when you are laying white tiles or very light tiles because if you use grey the dark colour MAY SHOW THROUGH the body of the tile. Sorry to nit pick. Its an important point though.
I use a paint mixer attatchment to my electric drill for small amounts. A big paddle requires a really powerfull big drill.
@marc7388 you do tiling? I have a question. Does masonry have anything to do with tiling? Because im 18 right now and im takign a masnry course and in abour 10 years im gonna look for something tha isint as hard on the back. Tiling looks nice so i was looking into it
What situation would call for a sanded grout vs a non-sanded grout? Also tiling OVER existing tile; I guess you can do it, BUT are there any really bad disadvantages in doing so?
I agree, but the point I was making is the fact that if you were wearing the proper mask then my voice would be so garbled you wouldn't be able to clearly hear what I was saying. You could spend 90 seconds during each video listing all the safety aspects of each task no matter if the video is about sawing, using a drill, painting, installing shingles, etc. You simply don't have that kind of time in these short videos to cover every aspect. I was trying to get Catnipsta to try it to see.
Thanks. I'm sure you understand that one could do a 1-hour DVD on just thinset. It would take perhaps 100 or more hours of videos to show much, not all, of what a true professional knows about tile installation. No one can afford to invest that time in these videos.
What size trowel would you recommend for 6x24 porcelain tile? Thanks!
Indeed. It's tough to tape a video with one on. You should try it. You have a channel, so put a mask on and talk. Tell us when you have the video posted so we can watch it. :->
yes, of course it is. But doing that weakens it considerably.
great information thanks! just one thing, it wasnt a pancake like mixture, i know this because i make pancakes aswell..and pancakes have more of a liquide texture than what you showed us. All good though thanks
good provisos Tim.
Thanks. Speaking of thanks, try clicking the *THANKS* text link under the video.
I'm sure there are. It's never okay to breathe in dust.
I only approved this comment because I'm in a good mood. It's almost unbelievable. Give us the exact title of this video so we can all watch it. To answer your question: Yes, I know what I'm talking about.
funnyt you posted this now, I got a big tile job starting monday
Great video thanks for sharing!
Good point Tim. A mask would not work here. There are so many types of thinsets available from: dry-set, modified,medium beds for large tiles and even some for laying tile directly over cracks on concrete slabs. They all are very dusty no matter how you mix it. I have mixed thinset for 20 years now and use a cartridge filter respirator
I have Mapei Premium Mortar (premixed and ready to use). Can I use that on floor tiles or will it crack when walked on like the mastics that are mentioned?
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I would. I'd never use organic mastic on a floor.
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Five Stars!!
And the extreme danger in doing that is what in the world happens if you start with too much water in the bucket????? Doing it my way, and adding water in small amounts you never add too much. Your way is fraught with peril.
Correct. American pancakes, not those thin things that look like burritos.
Hilarious!!! You and I need to have a pancake batter Throw Down..... I'll show you how to make batter. :->>>>>>>>>
Please contact me I need help on a uneven floor, very broke at the moment.. Washrooms been apart for months! Thanks so much!
If thats what you want to call it, but you are right in saying about the different ways to make pancakes.
Two entirely different skill sets. Tile work requires a greater degree of precision. You do work with clay products in both situations, mortar, etc., but it's vastly different.
Five stars!
That's great, but you didn't answer my question. Say you have a product that only needs one gallon of water. Someone puts in an extra 16 ounces by mistake. You only have one bag of mix. You're SOL buddy.......
Good heavens! Mix the stuff OUTSIDE and wear a dust mask when pouring the dry mix.
Also, use disposable gloves.
Didn't you forget the safety glasses, and post health-hazard notices at the door entrances, and ear protection from the sound bouncing around???? ;-)
i prefer to use a bucket trowel ,not a paint scraper...you make it sound enjoyable not laborious,which i feel it is after 2o yrs tiling lol.
wait,wait,wait
He might ofc be talking about crép batter.
wich has a very low viscosity.
and there are many,many difrent types of "pancakes"
But seeing as how Tim is a red blooded American he means american pancakes.
i bet iam the first one to say YOU LOOK LIKE TOMMY SILVA haha
Uh, you mean HE looks like ME...
DO WHAT TIM SAYS!
Or you'll find your self in a really nice pear of sement shoes! :D
seems like he was just looking out for you....
That stuff has a list of health warnings as long as your arm. You should wear gloves, a mask and goggles when handling it. It's dangerous for your eyes, lungs and skin. It's also carcinogenic. Wash your hands, arms and face thoroughly after use. Also, _knee pads_ or a folded towel when working on hard surfaces! Not much point having a nice floor if you can't walk...
Thanks Carl for you insight. You may want to add some extra data to your thinking. For example, have you ever given any thought to how old the old tile setters 100 years ago lived? Did they die at age 35 after working with the silica in thinset and grout after 20 years? Keep in mind many might have started as apprentices at age 15? Did they make it to age 50, 60 or ??? Remember, there were no fancy masks back then. You need to be really careful about placing all your trust in the government.
should be wearing knee pads. my boss is cripple now because he did it for 20 years without them
you just breathed in all those chemicals and powdered cement !
Yes I did. I'm still alive! Do it every day all day long and no doubt you'd have serious health issues. But I only did it for the video.
Yeah we should, except you wouldnt make yours right...sorry to say, not with that texture...batter is more liquidy it pores into the pan and then cooks away..
should be wearing a face mask.