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Definitely useful video. Went to turn the rads on in the sun lounge and BOTH valves started to leak. No movement in the nuts so no way to "nip them up". TRV on both it is then. We've got older gravity fed system.
Didn't see him add jointing compound (such as Boss White) in this video. Pre-compressing the new olive is also an important thing to do. I'd prefer to drain down the whole system if it were my house. Gives you more time to do it right, and not have to worry about an uncontrolled leak.
You don't install a TRV in a room with the room thermostat. The TRV may shut down the radiator before selected room temperature set on the room thermostat is reached and as a result the thermostat may never shut off your boiler.
@@alanmacleod9464 Alan, thanks for pointing this out. Does it follow that there could be two rads without TRVs, the one with the room stat and the bypass rad? Or is it better to have the bypass function performed by a bypass circuit some where near the pump?
Hi mate, I found you video very useful, I have the similar problem as yours, my old radiator tail got 3/4 inches (I believe what it is) nut on it, so that little bit I found from your video to remove the radiator tail is extremely useful, but may I ask what kind of new tail you install on, I can't find a tail like yours in the video, one end is 15mm and another end with 3/4 thread.
Thank you for your video Robin. Very useful. Can the flitch beam be used on a 1 degree sloped flat roof? The rafters run across as they hang off the flitch beam.
I'd appreciate your advice. I already have Tado installed. Should I have also installed auto balancing fittings to each radiator prior to fitting smart trvs? Cheers
"Do you have one radiator which doesn't have a thermostatic valve ...?" Yes - and my plumber told me that there should ALWAYS be one that doesn't. Because otherwise, if all the radiator valves close down before the main thermostat trips off, the boiler is then trying to pump water round a system that is in effect blocked - which is harmful to the boiler.
Smart TRVs like Tado are great unless you're in the room with one, especially the bedroom. The noise it makes when it adjusts the valve does my head in so I've opted to only have them in rooms I rarely use.
Would I do the same to change a locksheild valve?? Ours is old and rusty. We are installing a new radiator and after this video, we know how to put the new TRV on but not sure if it’s the same for locksheild valve?
Thanks for another great video. I have a LOUD banging sound from one of my TRV's which I did not have before installing Tado. It only happens sometimes, do you think I need to replace the trv?
6:44 you have put to much, right? Try 4-6 max turn next time. Welcome! no need to aprove me here, just try and be quiet, 😂....not a plumber here. Good luck! Gone away from this joke...
Good advice 👍👍 Q, when you put on the new valve is it possible to shut off the valve so before fitting so that when its fitted to the pipe end the water will not flow out forcing us to quickly connect the radiator end at the same time. Or am i rambling?
Hello. Can the water temperature sensor in the electric boiler show an incorrect value and turn the water heating on and off with errors due to an air plug if the cold water filter was not fully tightened?
Hi James, thanks for the vids. If I install Tado trv’s in a 2 or 3 level home(townhouse) do I still need to have Zone valves installed to zone the heating system? Cheers
Don’t just look at Tado. Compare it to Drayton Wiser. I installed it last September. Amazing system. It’s reduced our gas consumption by 20%. I fitted it to 13 radiators. The house is a single zone with a Combi boiler. Each room you set up in the app can call for heat independently of the other rooms. You set a schedule for each room and then let do its thing.
TADO are on special offer at the moment, Amazon offering the best deal currently. And no, I have no affiliation to the corporate giant. I have just installed TADO wired room stat and rad valves, so far seems to be great. I could leave the original controller but TADO controls the temperature.
get any paint off it to get bleed key to fit...use grips/pliers....Best to just buy a new one and fit it, once loose... dereton33 has simple fixes on his channel
Lol, I just spent most of yesterday installing a new radiator for the first time in ages and I spent faaaar to long trying to see if I should use PTFE or locktite on the radiator insert, and bosh next day here you are with just the video, ah well
Radiators have two rad valves. Slightly close off the lock shield valves of the hottest radiators, Also make sure the cooler radiators are fully open. Keep in mind to check against air in the radiator and the combi boiler is above 1 bar
IoT is generally a very bad idea, "the cloud" means you're using and relying on somebody else's server. You bought it, but in reality you don't really own it. What happens if they go bust and the servers are shutdown? Your 3 year old TRVs are deemed too old to support and now you need to upgrade them? Or they suddenly decide it is now a £10 per month subscription? All of these things have happened, and will again...
@@BABYCHAOS26the Drayton Wiser system reduced our gas consumption by 20% by having everything scheduled. I can also turn it off over the internet or change schedules to save more money while away.
He didn't drain the whole system, just about the volume that was in the expansion tank, the system was at ~1.5 bar and after draining a bit it's at 0 bar (relative to atmospheric conditions).
I know what you're saying and even what you're doing in the vid BUT the vid title doesn't match what you did....that's all. I watch a lot of your stuff and the title of this one intrigued me. 👍
My boiler is 40 years old as are my radiators. The only controls I have are an electric timer that allows for Off, Twice a day, All Day, or Constant, and a heat control knob that goes from 0 - 6. I never have to worry about water pressure, gas pressure, or the overflow freezing in the winter and shutting everything down. I don't need or want your modern unreliable garbage.
If your boiler is 40 years old you'll spend about 20% more in gas, modern condensing boilers are a lot more efficient. A heat control knob from zero to six - a normal thermostat where you can set the temperature sounds more user friendly tbh.
Not being funny but just drain the system down if there’s a drain cock n never touch a gate valve, they always stick shut and snap when you try to open them
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Do you sell.40mm n 32mm pipe slices?
Tado are amazing. Cost about 500 quid (14 rads plus controller panel) (DIY) to put all over My house but we saved that in the first year.
Definitely useful video. Went to turn the rads on in the sun lounge and BOTH valves started to leak. No movement in the nuts so no way to "nip them up".
TRV on both it is then.
We've got older gravity fed system.
Didn't see him add jointing compound (such as Boss White) in this video. Pre-compressing the new olive is also an important thing to do. I'd prefer to drain down the whole system if it were my house. Gives you more time to do it right, and not have to worry about an uncontrolled leak.
Hi James. There's often a reason why there's one rad without a trv on? Worth explaining?
to save money on initial install :) ?
Acts as a bypass on your system, so if all the other TRVs shut off the system has a point to circulate and dissipate heat through.
It’s the room with the thermostat in so it can turn the heating on and off when the temperature of the room is adequate.
You don't install a TRV in a room with the room thermostat. The TRV may shut down the radiator before selected room temperature set on the room thermostat is reached and as a result the thermostat may never shut off your boiler.
@@alanmacleod9464 Alan, thanks for pointing this out. Does it follow that there could be two rads without TRVs, the one with the room stat and the bypass rad? Or is it better to have the bypass function performed by a bypass circuit some where near the pump?
Hi mate, I found you video very useful, I have the similar problem as yours, my old radiator tail got 3/4 inches (I believe what it is) nut on it, so that little bit I found from your video to remove the radiator tail is extremely useful, but may I ask what kind of new tail you install on, I can't find a tail like yours in the video, one end is 15mm and another end with 3/4 thread.
I totally agree, you should always wiggle the top while dealing with the bottom. LOL Nice work James.👍
Thank you for your video Robin. Very useful. Can the flitch beam be used on a 1 degree sloped flat roof? The rafters run across as they hang off the flitch beam.
I'd appreciate your advice. I already have Tado installed. Should I have also installed auto balancing fittings to each radiator prior to fitting smart trvs? Cheers
If I have a hive thermostat, would I be better getting hive valve replacements of are tado better?
What’s the name of the socket thing to take off the rad tail??
Rothenberger uni spanner
"Do you have one radiator which doesn't have a thermostatic valve ...?" Yes - and my plumber told me that there should ALWAYS be one that doesn't. Because otherwise, if all the radiator valves close down before the main thermostat trips off, the boiler is then trying to pump water round a system that is in effect blocked - which is harmful to the boiler.
Where do I find the drain off valve. There aren't any beside any of my rads. There's one in the hotpress and one beside the boiler
Smart TRVs like Tado are great unless you're in the room with one, especially the bedroom. The noise it makes when it adjusts the valve does my head in so I've opted to only have them in rooms I rarely use.
Would I do the same to change a locksheild valve?? Ours is old and rusty. We are installing a new radiator and after this video, we know how to put the new TRV on but not sure if it’s the same for locksheild valve?
Would you bother cleaning off the excess PTFE tape that builds up around valve as you inserted it?
Hi James
Another great video can you do the same with the lock shield at the same time for changing to drayton trv4’s
cheers
Thanks for another great video.
I have a LOUD banging sound from one of my TRV's which I did not have before installing Tado.
It only happens sometimes, do you think I need to replace the trv?
I tape up the end of my thumb with electrical tape . That pipe end will create a perfectly circular cut. You're welcome
James those heads will they fit on any trv valve ❤
Will the Tado valves work with a Hive system.......thank you
BG engineer here, no unfortunately it’s only hive products that sync
No draining down, Put's a drain hose on and opens drain cock.
UA-cam didn’t allow such a long title! 😂
6:44 you have put to much, right? Try 4-6 max turn next time. Welcome! no need to aprove me here, just try and be quiet, 😂....not a plumber here. Good luck! Gone away from this joke...
😂😅
@@plumberparts where can you find the need caps for the other side they use to have push on ones now can’t find any
Fluid motion and squirter.... All anyone needs to know in a video... Great video as ever... 👍
Good advice 👍👍
Q, when you put on the new valve is it possible to shut off the valve so before fitting so that when its fitted to the pipe end the water will not flow out forcing us to quickly connect the radiator end at the same time.
Or am i rambling?
Yup, a good tip is to connect the TRV head to the valve and turn it off so you only need to snatch one end
Hello. Can the water temperature sensor in the electric boiler show an incorrect value and turn the water heating on and off with errors due to an air plug if the cold water filter was not fully tightened?
I have the same cast iron radiators.
I’m getting a crusty residue between the joints of each radiator panel
What does this mean?
Another quality video master Lawrence
My TRV is higher than my rad. I’ve had to remove it to fit the rad cover but now it’s always on. Any ideas how to turn it off?
Depending on your specific pipe configuration, you can get an "angled TRV" that protrudes through the side of the rad cover through an access hole.
Hi James, thanks for the vids.
If I install Tado trv’s in a 2 or 3 level home(townhouse) do I still need to have Zone valves installed to zone the heating system?
Cheers
I'd leave them in because it's less hassle than removing them and just cut the wires off that go into them. Easy job
Don’t just look at Tado. Compare it to Drayton Wiser. I installed it last September. Amazing system. It’s reduced our gas consumption by 20%. I fitted it to 13 radiators. The house is a single zone with a Combi boiler. Each room you set up in the app can call for heat independently of the other rooms. You set a schedule for each room and then let do its thing.
TADO are on special offer at the moment, Amazon offering the best deal currently. And no, I have no affiliation to the corporate giant. I have just installed TADO wired room stat and rad valves, so far seems to be great. I could leave the original controller but TADO controls the temperature.
Any tips on opening a very old radiator bleed valve ?
get any paint off it to get bleed key to fit...use grips/pliers....Best to just buy a new one and fit it, once loose... dereton33 has simple fixes on his channel
Maybe it doesn’t have a trv on because it is the bypass radiator
Norris McSquirter! Cracking video as always
Lol, I just spent most of yesterday installing a new radiator for the first time in ages and I spent faaaar to long trying to see if I should use PTFE or locktite on the radiator insert, and bosh next day here you are with just the video, ah well
How do you ballance a system with all smart TRV'S?
Radiators have two rad valves. Slightly close off the lock shield valves of the hottest radiators, Also make sure the cooler radiators are fully open.
Keep in mind to check against air in the radiator and the combi boiler is above 1 bar
Problem if the auto vent is within the combustion chamber. Then it’s a no no
Very useful thanks 🙏
how it can be No Draining Down :) ?
We always call a squirter a Norris , as in Norris McWirter , bit of a squirter.
Will it work if living in bornmouth
Only if your name is Cory
Don't forget to bleed air afterwords.
I can picture all the folk trying this, only to find they don't have nice clean water coming out! 😂
In your previous life you must of been a bomb disposal expert.
IoT is generally a very bad idea, "the cloud" means you're using and relying on somebody else's server. You bought it, but in reality you don't really own it.
What happens if they go bust and the servers are shutdown? Your 3 year old TRVs are deemed too old to support and now you need to upgrade them? Or they suddenly decide it is now a £10 per month subscription?
All of these things have happened, and will again...
I’ve never understood the appeal of remote access to your heating controls, most people just want to turn it on manually once they get home.
The Drayton Wiser system, once set up, does not need an Internet connection.
@@BABYCHAOS26the Drayton Wiser system reduced our gas consumption by 20% by having everything scheduled. I can also turn it off over the internet or change schedules to save more money while away.
It's a valid point. However... If this situation did occur, the impact is a trip to Screwfix to buy some new TRVs for £15 a go.
Lots wrong in this video. Air locks etc Had it myself today on a simple radiator change. Hot water o/heated. May confuse diy,er
Good vid but you drained it!
I don't understand. You drained the system down and the description said 'no draining down'!
He didn't drain the whole system, just about the volume that was in the expansion tank, the system was at ~1.5 bar and after draining a bit it's at 0 bar (relative to atmospheric conditions).
Have I missed the point? No draining down? 🤔
Dropping pressure! You still have to drop the pressure.
I know what you're saying and even what you're doing in the vid BUT the vid title doesn't match what you did....that's all. I watch a lot of your stuff and the title of this one intrigued me. 👍
My boiler is 40 years old as are my radiators. The only controls I have are an electric timer that allows for Off, Twice a day, All Day, or Constant, and a heat control knob that goes from 0 - 6. I never have to worry about water pressure, gas pressure, or the overflow freezing in the winter and shutting everything down. I don't need or want your modern unreliable garbage.
If your boiler is 40 years old you'll spend about 20% more in gas, modern condensing boilers are a lot more efficient. A heat control knob from zero to six - a normal thermostat where you can set the temperature sounds more user friendly tbh.
you can airlock/vacuum a pressurised system too . This method is pretty amateur . no need for drain hoses
How
@@mbroderick85 turn off the flow and return isolation valves under the boiler , works every time
I would not be happy if you leaked this much water on my wooden floor.
Unless its a danfoss valve lol
Not being funny but just drain the system down if there’s a drain cock n never touch a gate valve, they always stick shut and snap when you try to open them
You draining it down wtf