The best presenter I've seen in a long time. Most talk more than the guests and ramble for a week before getting to a question. I appreciate the focus and brevity. Also the questions are on point and on topic - very well done, thank you.
I really appreciate this. We are visiting an Anglican Church this coming Sunday, and are very interested in converting from Baptist. Love getting an overview.
Catholic in exile right now...I'm still too Romish for the Presbyterian and evangelical spheres/ system but then maybe too Protestant in leanings for Rome. Really feeling comfortable with Anglicaniam as I understand it today. Father McDurmott pastored a church not far from me in Alabama recently, though he since retired, maybe the church there, Christ the King Anglican, would hold to these views. Thanks for this video.
@anglicanAesthetics can you give me any advice on the anglican church in the south west of Ireland? I am coming convinced of anglicanism but we have some churches but I am not sure. There is a few pentecostal churches but I would rather stay at home then go there on Sunday.
Sean, would you be willing to interview prof. WIlliam G. Witt from ACNA? He wrote a decent book defending the ordination of women, "Icons of Christ". He blogs on "Non sermoni res" where he also has a great series of posts on Newman's development of doctrine.
Potentially--I've actually read most of the book and am familiar with the argument. We cover it briefly in the interview. I'm actually planning to make a series of videos detailing why I take issue with it, and what we can nevertheless learn from it (I think it's important that we actually do reckon with misogyny among the fathers)
Great interview. I'm sympathetic to your desire to find common ground with presbyterians on Holy Orders. But I found McDermott's points on that to give me food for thought on whether that is a wise or fruitful position. Reading *The Original Bishops: Office and Order in the First Christian Communities* by Alistair Stewart-Sykes also made me realise that the case for episcopacy as an apostolic command (and therefore divine in the same sense as all of their commands) is stronger than a lot of people give it credit for. Even the precise doctrine of marriage isn't as clear in the NT as episcopacy with deacons is. Ergo, if the doctrine of marriage is non-negotiable (and I think it is), then a fortiori, episcopacy is as well.
Prayer for the dead is explicitly forbidden in the formularies: “Whether we ought to pray for them that are departed out of this world or no. Wherein if we cleave only unto the word of God, then must we needs grant, that we have no commandment so to do” “Let us therefore dream either of purgatory, or of prayer for the souls of them that be dead; but let us earnestly and diligently pray for them which we are expressly commanded in holy Scripture, namely…” The third part of the Homily of Prayer Prayers for the dead were only interested in England in the early 20th century bcp and strongly resisted by evangelicals.
Note that the article says we have no *command* to pray for the dead. And that's true. But interestingly, the BCP includes a prayer for the peace of the departed soul. So we acknowledge that we have no mandate to do so and so aren't bound to do so (contra Rome).
I’ve missed where the 1662 includes a prayer for the departed, can you give any further references on that? The homily says we should cleave only to Gods word, and pray only for those we are instructed to by Gods word. We should not “dream” of prayers for the dead.
‘But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting til His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.’ ‘Sanctify them by Your truth. Your Word is truth.’ (Not our experiences.) ‘Come to Me, all you who are weary. . . ‘ Not to ANY ‘denomination.’ ‘My sheep hear My voice and I know them, and they follow Me.’ We go to Christ, and to Christ alone. Read Hebrews 7,8 9,10 ‘It is finished!’ ‘Do this in remembrance of Me’ By these elements we remember what He has done for us - He paid our sin debt and ‘made us kings and priests to God’ now, to offer up spiritual sacrifices. Roms 12:1-2. No more ‘priesthood’ - ‘altar of sacrifice.’ ‘The price is paid!’ And, ‘He lives in the power of an Indestructible life!’ And ‘Is seated at the right hand of the Majesty on High.’ Never to be ‘offered up’ again. ‘I tell you the truth, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s Kingdom.’ We are ‘the fruit’ of the Vine - ‘He shall see the travail of His Soul and be satisfied.’ He will not ‘drink’ us physically any more than we ‘eat’ Him, physically. Christ Himself is going to sit at table and rejoice with us and over us, just as we will spend eternity rejoicing over Him! ‘What a Saviour that He died for me!’ ‘Unless you eat My flesh and drink My blood you have no life in you.’ Not cannibalism. ‘My Words are Spirit and they are life.’ ‘This is the work’ we must do to have eternal life, ‘Believe.’ ‘It is finished!’ ‘The veil of the Temple was torn in two!’ ‘But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believed in His Name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, but of God.’ The Bible has said it all! On every subject. Read the Bible! Believe Jesus. He is coming again for His sheep. May we be found in Him, and in Him alone. Soli Deo Gloria. ‘Unless you are converted and become as little children. . . ‘ Not ‘converted’ from denominations, but taken out of the kingdom of darkness, translated in to the Kingdom of light. O, God, open Thou our inward ear!’ 🕊️🙏👑
I'm not sure I follow the need for a lot of these more anglo-catholic/anglo-orthodox types to show that the Anglican church has always held their, or at least permitted, their views. It seems like the principles of Via Media and Semper Reformanda would just allow for reformation and admission that it wasn't perfect from the beginning and may have gone too far in some aspects. This seems like an obvious conclusion when one looks at the bans on Christmas of 1659.
The best presenter I've seen in a long time. Most talk more than the guests and ramble for a week before getting to a question. I appreciate the focus and brevity. Also the questions are on point and on topic - very well done, thank you.
I really appreciate this. We are visiting an Anglican Church this coming Sunday, and are very interested in converting from Baptist. Love getting an overview.
Cool! I grew up Southern Baptist but became Anglican about 17 years ago (after seriously exploring RCC and EOC)
I grew up Baptist as well and became Anglican in college.
Thank you all! We had a great time visiting our first Anglican Church. We will be checking out several, before deciding.
Converted from Baptist to Anglican 1995 in heart but confirmed in 2010. Incredible journey that I highly recommend .......Gods Peace to you
I'm being confirmed into the ACNA in two weeks. And my daughter is being baptized into the ACNA this weekend. Can't be more excited
Catholic in exile right now...I'm still too Romish for the Presbyterian and evangelical spheres/ system but then maybe too Protestant in leanings for Rome. Really feeling comfortable with Anglicaniam as I understand it today. Father McDurmott pastored a church not far from me in Alabama recently, though he since retired, maybe the church there, Christ the King Anglican, would hold to these views. Thanks for this video.
No problem. You're neither too Romish for Reformed Catholics nor too evangelical for us either--we take the best and most apostolic of both :)
Left Anglicanism for Rome recently
@@tatehamilton758sorry to hear that
Watching from the Anglican Church of Canada.
Thank you. Informative and enlightening.
Love this, definitely buying the book
Another great video. Keep up the good work!
@anglicanAesthetics can you give me any advice on the anglican church in the south west of Ireland? I am coming convinced of anglicanism but we have some churches but I am not sure. There is a few pentecostal churches but I would rather stay at home then go there on Sunday.
Whereabouts?
Sean, would you be willing to interview prof. WIlliam G. Witt from ACNA? He wrote a decent book defending the ordination of women, "Icons of Christ". He blogs on "Non sermoni res" where he also has a great series of posts on Newman's development of doctrine.
Potentially--I've actually read most of the book and am familiar with the argument. We cover it briefly in the interview. I'm actually planning to make a series of videos detailing why I take issue with it, and what we can nevertheless learn from it (I think it's important that we actually do reckon with misogyny among the fathers)
Great interview. I'm sympathetic to your desire to find common ground with presbyterians on Holy Orders. But I found McDermott's points on that to give me food for thought on whether that is a wise or fruitful position. Reading *The Original Bishops: Office and Order in the First Christian Communities* by Alistair Stewart-Sykes also made me realise that the case for episcopacy as an apostolic command (and therefore divine in the same sense as all of their commands) is stronger than a lot of people give it credit for. Even the precise doctrine of marriage isn't as clear in the NT as episcopacy with deacons is. Ergo, if the doctrine of marriage is non-negotiable (and I think it is), then a fortiori, episcopacy is as well.
Prayer for the dead is explicitly forbidden in the formularies:
“Whether we ought to pray for them that are departed out of this world or no. Wherein if we cleave only unto the word of God, then must we needs grant, that we have no commandment so to do”
“Let us therefore dream either of purgatory, or of prayer for the souls of them that be dead; but let us earnestly and diligently pray for them which we are expressly commanded in holy Scripture, namely…”
The third part of the Homily of Prayer
Prayers for the dead were only interested in England in the early 20th century bcp and strongly resisted by evangelicals.
Note that the article says we have no *command* to pray for the dead. And that's true. But interestingly, the BCP includes a prayer for the peace of the departed soul. So we acknowledge that we have no mandate to do so and so aren't bound to do so (contra Rome).
I’ve missed where the 1662 includes a prayer for the departed, can you give any further references on that?
The homily says we should cleave only to Gods word, and pray only for those we are instructed to by Gods word. We should not “dream” of prayers for the dead.
I am moving to KC and will be going to St Aidan’s in the Upper Midwest.
What parish do you go to???
My conversion was in St. Paul's Chapel Trinity Church 1973.
‘But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, from that time waiting til His enemies are made His footstool. For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.’
‘Sanctify them by Your truth. Your Word is truth.’ (Not our experiences.)
‘Come to Me, all you who are weary. . . ‘
Not to ANY ‘denomination.’
‘My sheep hear My voice and I know them, and they follow Me.’
We go to Christ, and to Christ alone.
Read Hebrews 7,8 9,10
‘It is finished!’
‘Do this in remembrance of Me’
By these elements we remember what He has done for us - He paid our sin debt and ‘made us kings and priests to God’ now, to offer up spiritual sacrifices. Roms 12:1-2. No more ‘priesthood’ - ‘altar of sacrifice.’ ‘The price is paid!’
And,
‘He lives in the power of an Indestructible life!’ And ‘Is seated at the right hand of the Majesty on High.’ Never to be ‘offered up’ again.
‘I tell you the truth, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s Kingdom.’
We are ‘the fruit’ of the Vine - ‘He shall see the travail of His Soul and be satisfied.’ He will not ‘drink’ us physically any more than we ‘eat’ Him, physically. Christ Himself is going to sit at table and rejoice with us and over us, just as we will spend eternity rejoicing over Him! ‘What a Saviour that He died for me!’
‘Unless you eat My flesh and drink My blood you have no life in you.’ Not cannibalism.
‘My Words are Spirit and they are life.’
‘This is the work’ we must do to have eternal life, ‘Believe.’ ‘It is finished!’ ‘The veil of the Temple was torn in two!’
‘But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believed in His Name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, but of God.’
The Bible has said it all! On every subject. Read the Bible! Believe Jesus. He is coming again for His sheep. May we be found in Him, and in Him alone. Soli Deo Gloria.
‘Unless you are converted and become as little children. . . ‘ Not ‘converted’ from denominations, but taken out of the kingdom of darkness, translated in to the Kingdom of light.
O, God, open Thou our inward ear!’ 🕊️🙏👑
I'm not sure I follow the need for a lot of these more anglo-catholic/anglo-orthodox types to show that the Anglican church has always held their, or at least permitted, their views.
It seems like the principles of Via Media and Semper Reformanda would just allow for reformation and admission that it wasn't perfect from the beginning and may have gone too far in some aspects. This seems like an obvious conclusion when one looks at the bans on Christmas of 1659.
Sean Luke video drops, I watch. Not just because of the obvious tribal ties. Thank you.
13:10 - great question on Henry VIII
22:07 - great way of thinking about the way that Scripture, Apostolic Tradition, and Interpretation apply here
37:00 on temporal debts and the nature of the propitation of the Mass in apostolic traditions
33:03 - on the Mass as a sacrifice
35:00 on Calvin and the Mass, and the Lord's Supper and its influence on Anglicanism