CORRECTION: Lime is in the wrong place in the graphic at 7:52 It should be Gold-Lime-Olive-Jade If there are any other corrections I'll add them. Thanks to everyone in the comments with eagle eyes.
You didn’t mention how adult trolls eye color fills in as they age. Also I don’t think any caste is male or female only but certain castes are more commonly a certain gender, jades and fuchsias are almost always female while Indigos and purples are commonly males.
@@NErDy-pr1jf source on the eye color? the gender thing is different, they never mention proportion except in the case of jades and fuchsias. in jades' case it's explicit that they're only female, lanque being confirmed transmasc by the writer of his friendsim route. as for fuchsias, it's never confirmed, but there have only been females and numerous characters including porrim refer to the troll planets as "matriarchies" in some form.
@Funk McLovin I think you have the sweeps/years wrong. A sweep is about 2 years. A "few dozen" sweeps implies at least 3 dozen or more sweeps. This means that even lower low bloods still have around the same lifespan as humans, around 72 years. Granted this could be more or less. Just thought I would point that out.
Skylaa can see in the dark considering mspa reader was bumping into everything while she could see just fine in the dark. So yes I believe they do have night vision.
I think that was more like when it’s bright as fuck outside and your eyes get used to the brightness and then you come inside and are momentarily blinded because it's really dark compared to where you just were
@@vulpinecatastrophe9377 no that totally makes sense, but Skylaa comment on readers poor eyesight in the dark. I was trying to say that they are nocturnal. Well to an extent at least.
@@ooctopii8576 I didn’t say trolls didn’t have some kind of night vision. It’s be a necessity since trolls are in fact nocturnal. I was just giving an explanation to why the reader can’t see very well for the first couple minutes in Skyyla's hive.
Trolls are basically ants. Worker. Warrior. Royalty. The queen lays the eggs, and debatably controls them on some level. Side by side how ants and trolls work, and you'll see a very similar thing.
Not all of the Goldbloods are psionic, Zebede just speaks bee. Which... *Might* be partly biological? He's got dances that humans can learn how to do, but on his route they were able to 'hear' him from outside the hive. XD
to add to this: it was stated that the lower you are on the hemospectrum, the more likely you are to have psychic abilities of any kind. so, with a shitload of luck, highbloods with psychic powers can exist (see vriska).
Have you ever wondered about Homestuck troll's blood? Have you ever thought about troll anatomy? Have you sat awake at night contemplating Rainbow drinkers? Do you ever wonder how they FU-
As an awfully scientific person, I do, and bear full responsability for it, may you take any steps necessary to punish me for my crimes, but know, my death means nothing but your fear.
i was extremely scared but i watched it uh tavros ancestor can commune with animals cant he? i dont think u mentioned that, and wouldnt that make rufioh also capable? unless im wrong, but i was pretty sure he communicated with redglares lusus at some point no?
i also do believe it was confirmed that the candy red blood was a mutation of the limeblood caste, which also makes sense fitting in with the cherub lime/red color pallete. the one power karkat was shown to have, at least slightly, was to calm highbloods which was shown with gamzee. the text for the shoosh and paps were pink and lime green. lord english probably had them killed for being lime green
Also i hiveswap friendism, during korkoros bad ending its states that violetbloods were really tough. I guess it's the same thing as being hardy. I dont think they're weaker than land dweller high bloods.
Has midblood ever been said in canon? If so, i don't rember. Cause i remember olivebloods only ever being called lowbloods and tegiri implying that tealbloods might also be highbloods with his "a highb/ood such as myself..." line and "are you serious/y accusing me of highb/ood privi/ege"
Rustbloods - jadebloods =lowbloods Tealbloods - fuchisabloods =highbloods Olivebloods-cobaltbloods = mid bloods It practically overlaps. Even if olivebloods and jadebloods are midbloods, they're still considered lowbloods. Same goes to tealbloods and cobaltbloods, but they're highbloods instead of lows.
"A few dozen sweeps" for Rust Bloods is interesting to me as a low Troll lifespan because that implies at least a lifespan of 78-ish years. Even low-balling it, they'd live to about 60, which is... really average for a human. It kind of implies that Trolls, on average, live far, far longer than humans normally do. 1 Sweep = 2.16666667 years 12 Sweeps = 26 years "A few dozen" Sweeps = 26n years (52, 78, etc)
Hussie said that rustbloods live for about 30 years while fuchsia bloods can live for millions. Goldbloods and Olivebloods live for about as long as humans.
Actually there is another canon Jadeblood that is a guy he is named Cliper Borden Also on their wiki page they are described as almost exclusively female rather than exclusively female
You forgot that in hiveswap the selfies Joey takes with xefros shows that trolls have eyeshine so we know they a tapetum lucidum which aids in night vision
9:22 "no other brownblood is shown to be able to do this" The Alternian version of Rufio is The Summoner. Who kinda... did exactly that. Thus the name.
Thing about canonicity: Homestuck proper, friensim, and hiveswap are the only confirmed CANON. The epilogues are "Dubiously canon", meaning they are possibly canon because it doesn't shock with it, but isn't fully Canon. But that means that anything expanding from the epilogues is by nature NO CANON. For example: Pesterques literally reject canon in the end. Homestuck^2 is "Beyond canon", both in story and name establish itself as NO CANON. Additional this both works are connected, so that reaffirm it. You can consider the information in No canon works as possibly addition information, but take it with salt.
@@johnman8398 like is say to the epilogues, they are "Posibly canon" and thus anythig expanded from them is also "Posibly canon" at best, but most likly would be No canon. also, why people still think H2 is canon? the name is "Beyond canon".
@@ericquiabazza2608 The thing with Hs2 is that they've said that it is a legitimate continuation of hs and was originally was conceived by hussie and has his involvement. Because of this I can't just say it isn't canon.
@@johnman8398 Sorr bt i just dont buy that, not only because i follow part of the staff from before H2, and i know the reiteration is the new staff make the story, Hussie like and thus support it. with isnt exactly just the author making a sequel, this the same with the prologues, Hussie participate, but because other also create a grand part it isnt per se his story anymore, but also it isnt Homestuck Proper anymore. Homestuck has a serie of peculiar circunstances, mainly Hussie methaforicly and literally calling Death of the Author, this is a literaly term that refers to how the intentions or any external imput of the author, that isnt already in the story, are concidered null. this is because a story as a mins of art has potential beyond even the simple mind that crats it. This does cancel any chance of reboots or a new H.G, Rauling tweets incident. Basicly, Hussie know, and has even reafirm every now and again, homestuck proper is done, anything he says or does dont affect it own structure, it can add yes (Being "Posibly canon") but the moment it contradicts and shoke with the original Canon it becomes NO canon. That is what happen with Pesterquest. Even if Hussie aprove and participate, Pesterquest itself challenge and proclaims itself the NEW BETTER CANON, which is and admission on itslef of being NO Canon. A fanfic. a thing to underestand: Fanfic arent bad. i read way more fanfics than actual pieces. One has to diferentate withing Original Canon Source and Fanfic material. maybe you like the fanfic more, (i have my fare share of such circunstances) or maybe the source is more concistant. in this context, we are exploring a topic from the Original material, and thus needs to diferentiate what is fan added and what not, otherwise confusion and inconcistances became present.
@@ericquiabazza2608 Is english not your first language? cause your spelling is quite poor. I just realised you mention pesterquest as being non-canon but it actually is it just takes place in an alternate timeline and as a result doesn't contradict anything. So your pesterquest comparison doesn't work. Its not a fanfic, neither is hs2 its an official continuation. If you don't want to consider hs2 canon thats on you but its been stated to be an official continuation and has Hussie's involvement that is as far removed from a fanfic as possible. Thats like saying all spider-man comics are non-canon other than stan lee's original run.
Come to think of it... maybe the jadebloods' role as keepers of the brooding caverns may possibly be socially endowed, since it was once mentioned to Kanaya in Act 6 Intermission 3 that a rainbow drinker is more likely to exist among jadebloods with more access to sunlight (i.e. Kanaya). Keep in mind that jadebloods are rarely allowed outside of the dark brooding caverns, as elaborated upon in Hiveswap.
A recent homestuck video!? Edit: this is mostly just the style of the artist for pesterquest, but trolls are shown to have noses in "hussienasty" interpretations.
9:30 while Rufioh is never shown using animal communion abilities, his post scratch self the summoner absolutely was known to have that ability so since Rufioh and the summoner are the same person displaced across different iterations of the same universe it is safe to say that Rufioh also had animal communion Powers. EDIT: 18:39 The Dolorosa is also a rainbow drinker. When John fell into the artifact that gave him his retcon powers one of the places he zapped to was when Dolorosa was taking wiggler sufferer out of the caverns. She hissed at him while glowing.
Oh come on. Why does everyone say that mutants can only be candy red?! Mutants have the opposite color of their normal blood colour, for ex: Karkat has red because its the opposite of lime, and the red gets saturated and boom u have candy red. Or when in Hiveswasp act 2 a stranger messages us, they appear to have bright violet (ik its not violet can't find the shade but its similar) text, so if u take the color wheel you get olive/lime. (I haven't been able to figure it out) So yeah, mutants are the opposite saturated colors of their bloodcoloor
Very interesting overall, I would have to congratulate you, is not easy feet compile all this info. So here is some additional points and mistakes: -Trolls are half Insect half Mammal, they are born and live as insect during their childhood and are semi mammals (Most closely to Felines) the rest. So its no wonder their diet concist mostly of other insects, fungus and their own, Yap, cannibalism, very common among insects. -From hiveswap latest chapter we get the implication horns work to not only show Trolls health but also indicate certain qualities of them, including reproductive ones -During Homestuck is hinted that the change in names is mostly a way to degrade low bloods more, being that high blood can use normal colloquial "English". This is the same with technology, education and any other commodity. This way of separation of class is also in human history, for example during the last years of the british as an empire the low class use very bad and antiquated vocabulary, while the high class try differencing themselves by more refine language, specially adopting foreign term, like Administration and accountant, which where adopted from the french. -Though the Hemoespectrum is separated in 12 classes, within them there is a spectrum of color, most likely the class separation is social to maintain a hierarchy structure. So is a spectrum, just socially mark. -Population size may be a effect of their qualities, with indigo living only like 40 years and physically weak (Psyonics don't count) they are most likely to die soon, and thus sick reproduction more. In contrast blues and violets are physically strong, live manny years and are mostly immune to Psyionics, so they don't feel the need to reproduce as much. All this may also be considered by the mother grubs, so that because low bloods are weak and high blood strong then compensate by numbers. Is known human do the same in times of war and faming. -Also from Hiveswao act2: The troll ecosystem is very different to earth, thus it infrastructure and technology too. All technology is semi biological, specifically insect like. In this case Bees, Bees don't use Polem, but a fruit call "Brain Fruit" to produce "Honey", its indicate is perfect as a conduct and code processor, thus Bees are link with cybernetics, hardware and software, and why yellows are adept to both. This also explains why Psyonics power can be use as energy source. -During homestuck proper is point out that Serkets having Psyonics is a very rare mutation, and that goes for her eye too, which is the one giving her limited X-Rey kind of vision (Or "Vision eightfold" as she calls it). And thus Ardata having them is also rare, and would explain why hers are weaker in comparison. -17:07 "Royals are easy to kill" did I heard that wrong? During Polipa chapter she express that to kill a violet she needed to get a very lethal poison, a special dagger and stab Ina very precise point to kill a violet blood. During homestuck Eridan use his Hope powers to kill Feferi, in addition to Kanaja by a single strike, and its theorize Kanaja use a part of her space power to kill Eridan, in addition to her being a ranbowdrinker (Aka: A troll hunting machine). Also, to kill the empress there was needed the combine strength of NO LESS than 4 full god tier players. This is also referenced in Pesterques with Eridan surviving being Malled like nothing happen. It's theorize sea dwellers are so durable because their bodies are made to survive the pressure of the dep water and the very aggressive fauna and flora of alternia. -It's implicated the Vantas line is lime blood in origin, but mutated to have the candy red color. -If I remember correctly another defining characteristic of adult is that their eyes fill completely with their blood color. Adding to their imposing pressens. -Trolls don't do production because as with the Carpenter Drones most is automated. This is confirmed further in hiveswap act 2, with a drone managing the train and automated thicket booths. There is certain shops and low tier jobs, but mostly they seem to be done by low blood who where restricted such automated commodities, or decide to do them by themselves. -Personally I find the specific quadrant explanation be very vague and lacking, specially the difference with Red and Pale. With the former just being compare to human love (literally just that) and pale as best friends, but later was directly mention by the author and additional writers that Pale IS romantic and not just platonic. I have a lot to talk of this so I would save it to the next par. -Gender was mostly explain, just let me add this: Considering the numerous ways and context they are use is safe to assume "Bulge" is some type of penis ( NOT a tentacle) and "Seed flap" akin to a vagina and maybe uterus (tho, trolls don't gestate their offspring inside themselves but use the mother grub for that, there speculation if this is natural or of artificial design). The point, trolls have both Bulges and Seed flaps, so in a sense Trolls are hermaphrodites, which would explain their bisexual tendency and more "Hetero" or "Gay" inclinations being pensive as fetishistic -The thing of female being more imposing and aggressive than males fits with their characteristic of being part insect part mammal, where female are the more aggressive and dominant variants. Thanks for reading this wall of text, Un.n Have a nice day.
You said about Indigos living to 40 years, was this a mistake since Indigos are high bloods , Equius, and while his strength is a freak of nature even to trolls his blood is still very strong and higher blood higher lifespan and Indigos have very long lifespans
Look I don't have 33 minutes right now but I hope you found the secret canon lore that those are barf buckets (sc. Author notes in book five or six of printed version)
Jade-bloods are not only female. I'm not talking about Lanque either. They are stated as PREDOMINANTLY female, which means they are not entirely female.
Possibly the moonlight is so bright that they can seen normally, as the incredible brightness of their sun reflects off of them. Idk if any of that scientifically works i havent done any research.
The reason why they burn in sunlight on their planet but not earth c is because it is assumed that the sun is closer to alternia than earth and earth c
I always wondered if the drones were always a part of the troll species like the mother grub and have been modified later on by the empresses or have they been artificially introduced later on.
I think trolls have a nose, considering it looks like mallei has shading under his face pericing in a raised manner, (through the septum), and not dips Also old news but the HC with the red bloods being Lime and karkats shoo paps being lime colored, revealing their power was to tame and hush high blood rage, is lowkey canon cause of the extended zodiac test and
In the video it was said that royal bloods are easy to kill and I'm a bit confused by that, please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they stronger than the other casts? In friendsim on one of Karako's bad endings you fight some violet bloods with him and despite his brute strength, natural purple blood strength, and weaponry the violet bloods aren't even that bothered by being attacked, if I remember correctly. In the dancestor friendsim game, I forget the name of it right now, there are many times where it references Meenah's overwhelming physical strength and how easy it is for her to survive explosions, kill others, and just all around do super human acts of strength. This obviously doesn't negate the idea that there are trolls with lower blood that could hypothetically take down someone of a higher cast, after all Eridan did kill Feferi in the end and Karako and Mituna are not the most physically empowered trolls of their cast, but if we consider both these cases cannon, and any others that can be mentioned that I just don't remember right now, would it be safer to say that royal bloods are even more physically powerful than high bloods or do they win because of their social standing and other strengths?
yes but I'm sure when your a mutant your blood goes down 3 castes and gets heavily brightened. like if youre a mutant jade blood you would probably be a contrasted lime blood
Oh my yes YES thank you soo much making video of trolls blood type what they are depends there blood I was very confused whenever I look up what's about there blood and I'm bit bad at reading English but hearing is okay kdjdjd thank you soo much making video of this hehe 💖💖
There's a big oversight on the castes. Lime and red blood are the same caste. It's stated that red is a just a mutation of the lime caste. Also Jade bloods break the population rule for having a population comparable to indigo. I also spotted more oversights and misinformation but those stood out the most to me.
Ardata also shows Mind-control powers, as a quick aside about Ceruleanbloods. To the point she can actually control humans which is something Vriska cannot do. Also, Ceruleans live WAY longer than Teals (One of the Serkets, either Vriska or Mindfang, laments that their Teal counterpart would die naturally LONG before they ever did.) Also, all Highbloods are incredibly strong. Gamzee did more damage in one shot to the Black King than almost anyone else, and we see, in HS2, Vriska literally lifts a car and throws it into the air, and later tells Vrissy "you're way stronger than the humans", or something to that effect.
the hemospectrum *is* a spectrum. especially seen here www.homestuck.com/story/3514 if you colour pick the blood on the wall, you can see variation. its true that they fall in 12 types, but there are hues within a type.
16:30 Feferi, Meenah, Her Imperious Condescension, Trizza. Only 2? P.S: Okay, Meenah and Her Imperious Condescension can be the same troll, but it's different periods sorry, idk English so good-
oh cmon! you didn't mentioned indigo's affinity to art or some form of artistic interpretation.... oh well... that's why they are related to the void aspect I suppose.
6:17 its also worth mentioning that they had alchemiters on the meteor and could presumably make whatever food they wanted so they might've still had different diets.
I've only read the first season, and half of the second (because I can't remember the page I left it at), with this video I realized I understand nothing ✨
In hiveswap friendsim(only Lanque)and hiveswap act 2 (anyone in the trial)the least symbolic depictions of the trolls have noses, and since that dosen't go against or contradict anything in homestuck it's bassically confirmed they do have them. This applies to ears, eyelashes and eyebraws as well.
Anyone knows, by the possibility of two specific genetics to be involved , if the result can be of a totally different blood? Or is it a must for one or the other? or can change, but only if it is in range or half? (ex Violet Blood and Indigo Blood, has the child violet or indigo only? can they have a purple? or blood genetics is out the window and they can generate a rust blood? We only saw a Vriska n Kanaya bebe (the troll girl helping kanaya) and she has the lower blood of the two I just dont want to have a highblood family with 3 highbloods and one adopted lowblood, I really wish at least the not adopted child could be of lower blood too
finished homestuck recently and now I have brainworms. I don't know why I watched this. I don't know why I care. I do know that I read Psycholonials and my life has been going downhill since. Help me.
@@FunkMcLovin yeah in the canon hiveswap apsect/true zodiac quiz,,I could send a link,,it says that "if you are a mutant the lime sign profile still applies to you" but idk if they mean that the powers are alike or the personality is
@@casper-vv6lx Gotcha. I think this is debateable- I think it's grouped together for different, non-biological reasons. I don't think I'd include it but you could certainly make an argument for it.
@@FunkMcLovin The position of his sign, and the extended zodiac sign and also he displayed Lime qualities which were said to have advanced pacifying abilities which of course led to their demise as highbloods felt their power threatened.. That's what I can remember if right about him meaning to be Lime but mutation happened
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CORRECTION:
Lime is in the wrong place in the graphic at 7:52
It should be Gold-Lime-Olive-Jade
If there are any other corrections I'll add them. Thanks to everyone in the comments with eagle eyes.
You didn’t mention how adult trolls eye color fills in as they age. Also I don’t think any caste is male or female only but certain castes are more commonly a certain gender, jades and fuchsias are almost always female while Indigos and purples are commonly males.
Jades are not all-female, and Lanque is not the only male Jade. They're just significantly rarer for some reason
@@NErDy-pr1jf source on the eye color? the gender thing is different, they never mention proportion except in the case of jades and fuchsias. in jades' case it's explicit that they're only female, lanque being confirmed transmasc by the writer of his friendsim route. as for fuchsias, it's never confirmed, but there have only been females and numerous characters including porrim refer to the troll planets as "matriarchies" in some form.
@@FunkMcLovin But Hiveswap act 2 confirms that males exist on Alternia it was even a plot point in the trial section of the game.
@Funk McLovin I think you have the sweeps/years wrong. A sweep is about 2 years. A "few dozen" sweeps implies at least 3 dozen or more sweeps. This means that even lower low bloods still have around the same lifespan as humans, around 72 years. Granted this could be more or less. Just thought I would point that out.
The first rule of researching homestuck, any given subject is always 4 times more complex than you think it is
This.... Is so true I'm showing my friend right now and he's asleep
Ahem i think you mean 8
“researching homestuck”
god is dead and Andrew Hussie killed him
I like to think that Hussie just made up all of this as he went and somehow it worked out.
He basically did
Yeah- kind of like dnd-
makes sense
Ants.
@@NemFX ants are cool. Unless they're biting you
Skylaa can see in the dark considering mspa reader was bumping into everything while she could see just fine in the dark. So yes I believe they do have night vision.
I think that was more like when it’s bright as fuck outside and your eyes get used to the brightness and then you come inside and are momentarily blinded because it's really dark compared to where you just were
@@vulpinecatastrophe9377 no that totally makes sense, but Skylaa comment on readers poor eyesight in the dark.
I was trying to say that they are nocturnal. Well to an extent at least.
@@ooctopii8576 I didn’t say trolls didn’t have some kind of night vision. It’s be a necessity since trolls are in fact nocturnal. I was just giving an explanation to why the reader can’t see very well for the first couple minutes in Skyyla's hive.
@@vulpinecatastrophe9377 ok so were on the same page lol. I understood what you meant. 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
It’s probably because she’s a Leo troll and they’re like... kitties
Trolls are basically ants.
Worker. Warrior. Royalty.
The queen lays the eggs, and debatably controls them on some level.
Side by side how ants and trolls work, and you'll see a very similar thing.
Not all of the Goldbloods are psionic, Zebede just speaks bee. Which... *Might* be partly biological? He's got dances that humans can learn how to do, but on his route they were able to 'hear' him from outside the hive. XD
I should have been more clear- You're right! Castes CAN have their caste's ability, but not necessarily. Some do, some don't.
Pretty sure that'd make it a commune type of ability, only just geared to one specific species.
to add to this: it was stated that the lower you are on the hemospectrum, the more likely you are to have psychic abilities of any kind. so, with a shitload of luck, highbloods with psychic powers can exist (see vriska).
Checkpoint :
Still a homestuck in 2021
@dirk strider i will recommed homestuck to my kids one day like how my mom recommended harry potter to me when i was a kid
yeah,,
@@catalystfox once you become a homestuck you will always be one
No longer a Homestuck, but somehow a Touhou, miraculously.
I thought I had escaped for 9 full years...
_You can't escape the Homestuck_
Have you ever wondered about Homestuck troll's blood? Have you ever thought about troll anatomy? Have you sat awake at night contemplating Rainbow drinkers? Do you ever wonder how they FU-
no! i dont! i swear!
As an awfully scientific person, I do, and bear full responsability for it, may you take any steps necessary to punish me for my crimes, but know, my death means nothing but your fear.
@@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450 what they said
I feel like terezi could've been a technical rainbow drinker if she was a bit more violent and had tasted blood/it's color(s)
@@U.R.coolkid She would need to spend some time under the sun by then, Rainbow Drinkers are made by light not by drinking trollblood
I have never read Homestuck and do not plan to out of fear, so watching this is going to be confusing.
The worst thing about homestuck is the fandom, which are self aware to a point, which some don't even care about how bad they are.
rip
Its 30 minutes long, I'm not watching this out of pure fear
Not every Gold seems to have psionics, as can be seen in Zebede and an unnamed troll in the second train car from HIVESWAP: Act 2.
Zebedee had been powers, no?
@@julianbello8376 He can communicate with and control bees, but lacks the typical psionic powers, as can be seen by his eyes.
Yes yes starving 4 this 4 years
Don't starve the video, that's very rude
i was extremely scared but i watched it
uh tavros ancestor can commune with animals cant he? i dont think u mentioned that, and wouldnt that make rufioh also capable? unless im wrong, but i was pretty sure he communicated with redglares lusus at some point no?
I’m pretty sure all I’d not most bronze bloods can commune with animals
Yea he used the dragon during the failed revolution
yes the summoner did commune with animals, but i think the video was referring to beforus rufioh, who shows no signs of having this ability
@@KrysPGator well... why... not?
i thought that the fact that the summoner can, then its pretty much confirmed rufioh can... it makes sense to me
@@KrysPGator If the summoner can then Rufioh can, it just depends on experience skill
i think that it was implied that they did have boobs but like, they didnt have the same purpose as human's. kinda just chest bumps
i also do believe it was confirmed that the candy red blood was a mutation of the limeblood caste, which also makes sense fitting in with the cherub lime/red color pallete. the one power karkat was shown to have, at least slightly, was to calm highbloods which was shown with gamzee. the text for the shoosh and paps were pink and lime green. lord english probably had them killed for being lime green
thats how im recalling it, at least.
also if youre considering paradox space as canon, the dolorosa is a rainbow drinker
Wait isn't their purpose, like, protection or something? I still don't know a lot about this yet
@@helpilostmybeanie1868 yeah something more akin to natural meat chestplates
Isn't the fuchsia bloods antagonism fueled by glubgolyb's influence?
No, she loves them, it’s not her job to do that, that job would go to doc scratch
@@Sleepy_Muse I mean she is Doc Scratch's present to Alternian society
It’s a biological drive to kill your young which I believe was genetically encouraged via Mother Grub breeding since Alternia is pretty into eugenics
this sentence makes no sense to someone who has never read homestuck
It's likely partially based on how newly-born virgin queen bees will seek out and kill other virgin queens, hatched or not.
Also i hiveswap friendism, during korkoros bad ending its states that violetbloods were really tough. I guess it's the same thing as being hardy. I dont think they're weaker than land dweller high bloods.
I think you mean Karako, but all in all, agreed
@@Tae_ no I meant the royal blood trolls they were fighting. :)
@@ooctopii8576 I mean yeah but you wrote "Korkoros bad ending" that's all
@@Tae_ oh you meant I misspelled. Yeah I tend to do that. ^_^;
My bad
@@ooctopii8576 all cool don't worry :3
Has midblood ever been said in canon? If so, i don't rember. Cause i remember olivebloods only ever being called lowbloods and tegiri implying that tealbloods might also be highbloods with his "a highb/ood such as myself..." line and "are you serious/y accusing me of highb/ood privi/ege"
Rustbloods - jadebloods =lowbloods
Tealbloods - fuchisabloods =highbloods
Olivebloods-cobaltbloods = mid bloods
It practically overlaps.
Even if olivebloods and jadebloods are midbloods, they're still considered lowbloods.
Same goes to tealbloods and cobaltbloods, but they're highbloods instead of lows.
So to answer your question uh well not really.
@@schlay8120 thx b! I appreciate it
There's high and low bloods, the mid-bloods are low high high-bloods and high low bloods.
Tbh it's really just a societal thing. There really is no midblood just low and high. There is no middle-class
"A few dozen sweeps" for Rust Bloods is interesting to me as a low Troll lifespan because that implies at least a lifespan of 78-ish years. Even low-balling it, they'd live to about 60, which is... really average for a human. It kind of implies that Trolls, on average, live far, far longer than humans normally do.
1 Sweep = 2.16666667 years
12 Sweeps = 26 years
"A few dozen" Sweeps = 26n years (52, 78, etc)
Hussie said that rustbloods live for about 30 years while fuchsia bloods can live for millions. Goldbloods and Olivebloods live for about as long as humans.
Indigo = beef
Yes thank you
Also I'm happy to see these I like speculating biology and nerdy shit so Homestuck was perfect for me
Actually there is another canon Jadeblood that is a guy he is named Cliper Borden
Also on their wiki page they are described as almost exclusively female rather than exclusively female
I'm pretty sure it's that all jadebloods are biologically female and all male jadebloods are trans, like Lanque
@@CorvidsForHire lanque is confirmed trans yes, but cliper is male and not confirmed either way.
You forgot that in hiveswap the selfies Joey takes with xefros shows that trolls have eyeshine so we know they a tapetum lucidum which aids in night vision
with 4:35, trolls don't have nipples. its shown in hiveswap friendsim that with Marvus, he doesn't have nipples, its just flat and plain
homestuck in my 2021? it's more likely than you think!
in all seriousness, i'm glad to see the fandom still thriving after so many years!
Same! I'm glad Homestuck is being enjoyed in 2021 ;D
9:22 "no other brownblood is shown to be able to do this" The Alternian version of Rufio is The Summoner. Who kinda... did exactly that. Thus the name.
“I have no idea how much UA-cam will like this video” I’ve been getting recommended this for like 2 weeks lmao and I’m glad I was
Thing about canonicity:
Homestuck proper, friensim, and hiveswap are the only confirmed CANON.
The epilogues are "Dubiously canon", meaning they are possibly canon because it doesn't shock with it, but isn't fully Canon.
But that means that anything expanding from the epilogues is by nature NO CANON.
For example:
Pesterques literally reject canon in the end.
Homestuck^2 is "Beyond canon", both in story and name establish itself as NO CANON.
Additional this both works are connected, so that reaffirm it.
You can consider the information in No canon works as possibly addition information, but take it with salt.
The events of friendsim aren't canon also I find it weird that you separate hs2 from the epilogues when its directly connected to it.
@@johnman8398 like is say to the epilogues, they are "Posibly canon" and thus anythig expanded from them is also "Posibly canon" at best, but most likly would be No canon.
also, why people still think H2 is canon? the name is "Beyond canon".
@@ericquiabazza2608 The thing with Hs2 is that they've said that it is a legitimate continuation of hs and was originally was conceived by hussie and has his involvement. Because of this I can't just say it isn't canon.
@@johnman8398 Sorr bt i just dont buy that, not only because i follow part of the staff from before H2, and i know the reiteration is the new staff make the story, Hussie like and thus support it. with isnt exactly just the author making a sequel, this the same with the prologues, Hussie participate, but because other also create a grand part it isnt per se his story anymore, but also it isnt Homestuck Proper anymore.
Homestuck has a serie of peculiar circunstances, mainly Hussie methaforicly and literally calling Death of the Author, this is a literaly term that refers to how the intentions or any external imput of the author, that isnt already in the story, are concidered null. this is because a story as a mins of art has potential beyond even the simple mind that crats it.
This does cancel any chance of reboots or a new H.G, Rauling tweets incident.
Basicly, Hussie know, and has even reafirm every now and again, homestuck proper is done, anything he says or does dont affect it own structure, it can add yes (Being "Posibly canon") but the moment it contradicts and shoke with the original Canon it becomes NO canon. That is what happen with Pesterquest.
Even if Hussie aprove and participate, Pesterquest itself challenge and proclaims itself the NEW BETTER CANON, which is and admission on itslef of being NO Canon.
A fanfic.
a thing to underestand: Fanfic arent bad.
i read way more fanfics than actual pieces.
One has to diferentate withing Original Canon Source and Fanfic material.
maybe you like the fanfic more, (i have my fare share of such circunstances) or maybe the source is more concistant.
in this context, we are exploring a topic from the Original material, and thus needs to diferentiate what is fan added and what not, otherwise confusion and inconcistances became present.
@@ericquiabazza2608 Is english not your first language? cause your spelling is quite poor. I just realised you mention pesterquest as being non-canon but it actually is it just takes place in an alternate timeline and as a result doesn't contradict anything. So your pesterquest comparison doesn't work. Its not a fanfic, neither is hs2 its an official continuation. If you don't want to consider hs2 canon thats on you but its been stated to be an official continuation and has Hussie's involvement that is as far removed from a fanfic as possible. Thats like saying all spider-man comics are non-canon other than stan lee's original run.
Lime is in the wrong place...
Come to think of it... maybe the jadebloods' role as keepers of the brooding caverns may possibly be socially endowed, since it was once mentioned to Kanaya in Act 6 Intermission 3 that a rainbow drinker is more likely to exist among jadebloods with more access to sunlight (i.e. Kanaya). Keep in mind that jadebloods are rarely allowed outside of the dark brooding caverns, as elaborated upon in Hiveswap.
A recent homestuck video!?
Edit: this is mostly just the style of the artist for pesterquest, but trolls are shown to have noses in "hussienasty" interpretations.
Yes they have noses as seen in various Homestuck art, and as evident in how Terezi "sniffs" things.
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The Dolorosa may be a Rainbow Drinker given that her eyes glowed a bright yellow as RD eyes do. Plus John said she was a vampire when he saw her.
9:30 while Rufioh is never shown using animal communion abilities, his post scratch self the summoner absolutely was known to have that ability so since Rufioh and the summoner are the same person displaced across different iterations of the same universe it is safe to say that Rufioh also had animal communion Powers.
EDIT: 18:39 The Dolorosa is also a rainbow drinker. When John fell into the artifact that gave him his retcon powers one of the places he zapped to was when Dolorosa was taking wiggler sufferer out of the caverns. She hissed at him while glowing.
Oh come on. Why does everyone say that mutants can only be candy red?! Mutants have the opposite color of their normal blood colour, for ex: Karkat has red because its the opposite of lime, and the red gets saturated and boom u have candy red. Or when in Hiveswasp act 2 a stranger messages us, they appear to have bright violet (ik its not violet can't find the shade but its similar) text, so if u take the color wheel you get olive/lime. (I haven't been able to figure it out)
So yeah, mutants are the opposite saturated colors of their bloodcoloor
i think it is established in hiveswap that ALL jadebloods are able to survive in the sun
Very interesting overall, I would have to congratulate you, is not easy feet compile all this info.
So here is some additional points and mistakes:
-Trolls are half Insect half Mammal, they are born and live as insect during their childhood and are semi mammals (Most closely to Felines) the rest.
So its no wonder their diet concist mostly of other insects, fungus and their own, Yap, cannibalism, very common among insects.
-From hiveswap latest chapter we get the implication horns work to not only show Trolls health but also indicate certain qualities of them, including reproductive ones
-During Homestuck is hinted that the change in names is mostly a way to degrade low bloods more, being that high blood can use normal colloquial "English".
This is the same with technology, education and any other commodity.
This way of separation of class is also in human history, for example during the last years of the british as an empire the low class use very bad and antiquated vocabulary, while the high class try differencing themselves by more refine language, specially adopting foreign term, like Administration and accountant, which where adopted from the french.
-Though the Hemoespectrum is separated in 12 classes, within them there is a spectrum of color, most likely the class separation is social to maintain a hierarchy structure.
So is a spectrum, just socially mark.
-Population size may be a effect of their qualities, with indigo living only like 40 years and physically weak (Psyonics don't count) they are most likely to die soon, and thus sick reproduction more.
In contrast blues and violets are physically strong, live manny years and are mostly immune to Psyionics, so they don't feel the need to reproduce as much.
All this may also be considered by the mother grubs, so that because low bloods are weak and high blood strong then compensate by numbers.
Is known human do the same in times of war and faming.
-Also from Hiveswao act2: The troll ecosystem is very different to earth, thus it infrastructure and technology too. All technology is semi biological, specifically insect like.
In this case Bees, Bees don't use Polem, but a fruit call "Brain Fruit" to produce "Honey", its indicate is perfect as a conduct and code processor, thus Bees are link with cybernetics, hardware and software, and why yellows are adept to both.
This also explains why Psyonics power can be use as energy source.
-During homestuck proper is point out that Serkets having Psyonics is a very rare mutation, and that goes for her eye too, which is the one giving her limited X-Rey kind of vision (Or "Vision eightfold" as she calls it).
And thus Ardata having them is also rare, and would explain why hers are weaker in comparison.
-17:07 "Royals are easy to kill" did I heard that wrong?
During Polipa chapter she express that to kill a violet she needed to get a very lethal poison, a special dagger and stab Ina very precise point to kill a violet blood.
During homestuck Eridan use his Hope powers to kill Feferi, in addition to Kanaja by a single strike, and its theorize Kanaja use a part of her space power to kill Eridan, in addition to her being a ranbowdrinker (Aka: A troll hunting machine).
Also, to kill the empress there was needed the combine strength of NO LESS than 4 full god tier players.
This is also referenced in Pesterques with Eridan surviving being Malled like nothing happen.
It's theorize sea dwellers are so durable because their bodies are made to survive the pressure of the dep water and the very aggressive fauna and flora of alternia.
-It's implicated the Vantas line is lime blood in origin, but mutated to have the candy red color.
-If I remember correctly another defining characteristic of adult is that their eyes fill completely with their blood color. Adding to their imposing pressens.
-Trolls don't do production because as with the Carpenter Drones most is automated.
This is confirmed further in hiveswap act 2, with a drone managing the train and automated thicket booths.
There is certain shops and low tier jobs, but mostly they seem to be done by low blood who where restricted such automated commodities, or decide to do them by themselves.
-Personally I find the specific quadrant explanation be very vague and lacking, specially the difference with Red and Pale. With the former just being compare to human love (literally just that) and pale as best friends, but later was directly mention by the author and additional writers that Pale IS romantic and not just platonic. I have a lot to talk of this so I would save it to the next par.
-Gender was mostly explain, just let me add this:
Considering the numerous ways and context they are use is safe to assume "Bulge" is some type of penis ( NOT a tentacle) and "Seed flap" akin to a vagina and maybe uterus (tho, trolls don't gestate their offspring inside themselves but use the mother grub for that, there speculation if this is natural or of artificial design).
The point, trolls have both Bulges and Seed flaps, so in a sense Trolls are hermaphrodites, which would explain their bisexual tendency and more "Hetero" or "Gay" inclinations being pensive as fetishistic
-The thing of female being more imposing and aggressive than males fits with their characteristic of being part insect part mammal, where female are the more aggressive and dominant variants.
Thanks for reading this wall of text, Un.n
Have a nice day.
i knew almost all of this, but i didnt play friendsim, so im happy theres new things to discover.
thank you, now i look forward to playing it
You said about Indigos living to 40 years, was this a mistake since Indigos are high bloods , Equius, and while his strength is a freak of nature even to trolls his blood is still very strong and higher blood higher lifespan and Indigos have very long lifespans
@@CaltosVirnam yeah i think he meant burgundies/rusts
@@CaltosVirnam @Tirone CORRECT! i mean Burgundies, for some reason my brain confuse the 2 for a moment XD. want me to edit the text or live it as is?
@@ericquiabazza2608 Lmao , I'm sure people understand what you mean anyway
Look I don't have 33 minutes right now but I hope you found the secret canon lore that those are barf buckets (sc. Author notes in book five or six of printed version)
D: oh godless void, no-
Jade-bloods are not only female. I'm not talking about Lanque either. They are stated as PREDOMINANTLY female, which means they are not entirely female.
Oh boy here I go down a rabbit hole of homestuck again
you cant escape but you can have a 60 sec break from homestuck
Wheeeee down the rabbit hole we gooo
Possibly the moonlight is so bright that they can seen normally, as the incredible brightness of their sun reflects off of them. Idk if any of that scientifically works i havent done any research.
That makes sense, brighter light reflects off objects more than dull light
Sir, thank you for your sacrifice.
I can only imagine what it feels like describing this in such detail.
Hey, this comes out on my birthday!
happy birthday.
happy birthday!
Happy birthday
Happy birthday!
haha aquarius
this is a joke
The reason why they burn in sunlight on their planet but not earth c is because it is assumed that the sun is closer to alternia than earth and earth c
this video really broad side school fed me up the bone buldge
I'd assume it's possible for mutants to exist in different blood, at least variations of a caste, since mutations aren't usually one thing
I always wondered if the drones were always a part of the troll species like the mother grub and have been modified later on by the empresses or have they been artificially introduced later on.
Before watching the video i'll just say that the Tentabulges and nooks stuff in fanfics is great.
Oh boy there comes my Homestuck phase again-
i got an online friend to read homestuck and i fell back into it so hard
It always goes away but then it always comes back
all the other castes: very important information
indigobloods: beefy🥩. thats it.
I think trolls have a nose, considering it looks like mallei has shading under his face pericing in a raised manner, (through the septum), and not dips
Also old news but the HC with the red bloods being Lime and karkats shoo paps being lime colored, revealing their power was to tame and hush high blood rage, is lowkey canon cause of the extended zodiac test and
In the video it was said that royal bloods are easy to kill and I'm a bit confused by that, please correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they stronger than the other casts?
In friendsim on one of Karako's bad endings you fight some violet bloods with him and despite his brute strength, natural purple blood strength, and weaponry the violet bloods aren't even that bothered by being attacked, if I remember correctly.
In the dancestor friendsim game, I forget the name of it right now, there are many times where it references Meenah's overwhelming physical strength and how easy it is for her to survive explosions, kill others, and just all around do super human acts of strength.
This obviously doesn't negate the idea that there are trolls with lower blood that could hypothetically take down someone of a higher cast, after all Eridan did kill Feferi in the end and Karako and Mituna are not the most physically empowered trolls of their cast, but if we consider both these cases cannon, and any others that can be mentioned that I just don't remember right now, would it be safer to say that royal bloods are even more physically powerful than high bloods or do they win because of their social standing and other strengths?
Could you tell me the timestamp? This was a misread of my script. I meant to say they're HARDER to kill, as they're the hardiest of the trolls.
i love the way this fandom isn't dying
I thought Karkat was mutant lime blood
yes but I'm sure when your a mutant your blood goes down 3 castes and gets heavily brightened. like if youre a mutant jade blood you would probably be a contrasted lime blood
@@connoraugh1626 Huh alright I'm down for that hc
the only thing i know about homestuck is the bathtub incedent. idk why im here
Oh my yes YES thank you soo much making video of trolls blood type what they are depends there blood I was very confused whenever I look up what's about there blood and I'm bit bad at reading English but hearing is okay kdjdjd thank you soo much making video of this hehe 💖💖
FOUR videos of Troll Biology?!
Hell Fucking Yes!!!
I have never considered some trolls to live for all those years I just assumed they live as long or a bit longer than humans
There's a big oversight on the castes. Lime and red blood are the same caste. It's stated that red is a just a mutation of the lime caste. Also Jade bloods break the population rule for having a population comparable to indigo. I also spotted more oversights and misinformation but those stood out the most to me.
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Ardata also shows Mind-control powers, as a quick aside about Ceruleanbloods. To the point she can actually control humans which is something Vriska cannot do.
Also, Ceruleans live WAY longer than Teals (One of the Serkets, either Vriska or Mindfang, laments that their Teal counterpart would die naturally LONG before they ever did.)
Also, all Highbloods are incredibly strong. Gamzee did more damage in one shot to the Black King than almost anyone else, and we see, in HS2, Vriska literally lifts a car and throws it into the air, and later tells Vrissy "you're way stronger than the humans", or something to that effect.
I think at one point John actually said he met a vampire when he was all that timeline jumping.
I think that was The Dolorosa.
Wow cool
the hemospectrum *is* a spectrum.
especially seen here www.homestuck.com/story/3514
if you colour pick the blood on the wall, you can see variation.
its true that they fall in 12 types, but there are hues within a type.
I literally love all hs content so I’m glad someone’s doing this lol
16:30 Feferi, Meenah, Her Imperious Condescension, Trizza. Only 2?
P.S: Okay, Meenah and Her Imperious Condescension can be the same troll, but it's different periods
sorry, idk English so good-
oh cmon! you didn't mentioned indigo's affinity to art or some form of artistic interpretation.... oh well... that's why they are related to the void aspect I suppose.
6:17 its also worth mentioning that they had alchemiters on the meteor and could presumably make whatever food they wanted so they might've still had different diets.
im pretty sure it was implied that blood colour IS a spectrum but troll society made twelve different categories.
This video came out on my birthday two years ago and I just became a homestuck about a week ago, It was meant to be 😭
19:43 damn you funk mclovin
Idk if I watching this out of pure fear or I have zoom in 12 minutes
I've only read the first season, and half of the second (because I can't remember the page I left it at), with this video I realized I understand nothing ✨
same tbh i skipped so many parts of homestuck cuz i didnt understand anything 😭😭😭
let’s fucking get into it
Thanks Funk McLovin very cool
Mallek has a nose piercing so I myself think they have noses or at least nostrils?
Thanks for making this!!! Defo using this for character creation
i forgot about tavros banana
jadebloods are all female
lanque (a guy who has jade blood): ._.
In hiveswap friendsim(only Lanque)and hiveswap act 2 (anyone in the trial)the least symbolic depictions of the trolls have noses, and since that dosen't go against or contradict anything in homestuck it's bassically confirmed they do have them. This applies to ears, eyelashes and eyebraws as well.
Random timestamps: 7:00
Anyone knows, by the possibility of two specific genetics to be involved , if the result can be of a totally different blood? Or is it a must for one or the other? or can change, but only if it is in range or half?
(ex Violet Blood and Indigo Blood, has the child violet or indigo only? can they have a purple? or blood genetics is out the window and they can generate a rust blood?
We only saw a Vriska n Kanaya bebe (the troll girl helping kanaya) and she has the lower blood of the two
I just dont want to have a highblood family with 3 highbloods and one adopted lowblood, I really wish at least the not adopted child could be of lower blood too
thanks youtube recommendations
26:38 i thought you said genitorial work i almost had a breakdown like "WTF TROLLS HAVE *0w0* SLAVES?!"
Is there a pattern is ceruleanblood trolls's horns? I don't think it was mentioned.
so. does homestuck technically count as a speculative evolution/biology text??
LMAO
violets
- fish
AHAHAHHAH IDK WHY THAT GOT ME
i am learning
How can I tell this guy he did the hemopectrum wrong??
finished homestuck recently and now I have brainworms. I don't know why I watched this. I don't know why I care. I do know that I read Psycholonials and my life has been going downhill since. Help me.
Suffer indeed
0:18 why yes, we do
homestuck vid in 2021? what madness is this?
WHAAAT YOU HAVE A UA-cam, I JUST SEE YOU ON TWITTER
Are there spoilers before I start this video? I'm at around 6,000 pages in.
cam some PLEASE tell me what chucklevoodoos are
Some jades are guys
Personally I wouldn't say royalbloods are easily killed, as gamzee was also killed in the same fashion as eridan pre retcon
Candy red blood is actually a mutant lime blood
I've seen this claim a lot- Is there a source on it?
@@FunkMcLovin yeah in the canon hiveswap apsect/true zodiac quiz,,I could send a link,,it says that "if you are a mutant the lime sign profile still applies to you" but idk if they mean that the powers are alike or the personality is
@@casper-vv6lx Gotcha. I think this is debateable- I think it's grouped together for different, non-biological reasons. I don't think I'd include it but you could certainly make an argument for it.
@@FunkMcLovin The position of his sign, and the extended zodiac sign and also he displayed Lime qualities which were said to have advanced pacifying abilities which of course led to their demise as highbloods felt their power threatened.. That's what I can remember if right about him meaning to be Lime but mutation happened
Wasn’t karkat a lime blood
hey, do you know The Genesis Project? Is a fan-game of Homestuck, you can play sburb.
also will you be covering or mentioning black bloods?
you deserve way more veiws and subscribes than you have
there's too much here that is incorrect/outdated for me to be able to recommend to others who want to use this as research material, sorry
so i would probably be a gold blood