If you ally yourself with the Flotsam ninjas and take out lord phoenix then they will sell you his destroyed palace that you can repair and make your home. So Blister Hill has large houses for you, you just need to destroy the holy nation to get them.
@@firatcantatarka671 I just go to their village after I've defeated Bugmaster and took the grand inquisitor kill quest from the Shek. I think they are friendly to me by default even before that.
@@firatcantatarka671not as fast a reply but you can also just go to Moll and tell them you dislike the HN, then you don’t need to kill the Bugmaster or capture any government officials
Catun is one of the most underrated cities in the whole game in my opinion. I know it doesn't have too many shops and it is quite tough to even get there. But the feeling of being there on the top of that small plateau surrounded by an endless desert filled with ancient ruins is simply amazing, there is some sort of sense of peace there. It is also an quite good location to live, a decent set of buyable structures (including a Outpost III), and due to the constant Skin Spiders/Beak things attacks in the first gate there is always an insane amount of leather you can get just by staying there for a while.
@@KokoplaysMB Yes that's my main problem with the city actually, I kinda wish it got some more world states tied to it, sometimes I even think that Catun should be considered an idependent town, as it don't fit with the empire all that much. At least there is a mod that makes it under control of the Tech Hunters, and I'm also planning on creating a small override to add my own faction on control of it in my current playthrough
@@olivierrodriguesneto5995 Catun is a quite large castle city positioned on top of one of the most defensible locations in the world, or at least I think so. It's a midway point between the Empire's mainland in the Great Deserts and their Southern territories like Clownsteady. I think it makes perfect sense for the UC to have a strong fortress in the middle of the Boneyard acting as force projection for it and the areas around it, as well as a safe haven for their traders to stop at before heading further toward either part of Empire lands
@@b.t4604 It definetly is a good town for smuggling but I would recommend trying out Flats Lagoon, probably the most optimal town for smuggling. Catun is a nice starting area for training and money too, there are near constant Beak Things on the outer walls, meaning a constant source of leather and meat, also trying to fight them is a awesome way to train, beak things are some of the best oponents for early combat leveling (remember to only block so you can raise your defence), just be 100% sure that there is someone ready to save your character for being eaten alive.
Gotta respect the love people have for Catun. I never felt it was anything special, but seeing how many people really like it, here in the comments and in chat on streams, you got my respect.
Good tier list. I'd put Mourn on A because I love the chaos in that place, it is also my base whenever I start exploring the south of the map. You can also power the city with your own generators and people will start maning the harpoon turrets. Feels like you're restoring the city a bit.
+1 Mourn has automated ore drills which provide endless iron for grinding up armor smith via plate beating station. It also has a fun sparring partner in the research lab for levelling combat skills.
I love your tier list and think it is spot on except for 2 small changes. I would put Squin in A tier, as it is my favorite place to start a "beginner's base" in. It has some relatively strong characters to recruit for a good start. At least 4 copper and 4 iron mines within safe distance from town, as well as plenty of places to sell the ore. Lots of lower level enemies to train on and several towns and way stations nearby once you are ready to stock up for full on base building. I would also put Black Desert City in S tear due to how cool it looks and my favorite shopping spot, the scrapyard.
Mongrel is great, the Y house for sale is a nice size, there's a shack beside it that is also for sale. The shack I often place an ore storage in so I can have new recruits mine iron near the gate covered by guards and the auto hauling will reach the shack. Usually I use the iron to make armor plates to train armor smithing (sells good). Ends up being my western HQ where I gather research and grind out tech there. Plenty of power to research and craft all seasons. Downside is food has a high mark-up, if you get hydroponics you either manually collect water from the automated well in town or get a mod for making water in town. I also bait the nearby fogmen prisoner polls with fogmen bodies, it attracts the princes to chow on them and I send the squad out to collect some heads.
I was pleasantly surprised when you mentioned Flats Lagoon. I like it for the lore reasons. I mean, all the swamp area used to be a lake or body of water of some sort, and boats and ships were the main methods of transportation. Having it all dried up now and to see that the city still remains with its original design as a “Platform City” (Reminding me of sea petrol stations) is what gives it its cool factor to me.
Great list! I personally rate Heft as being S tier though because it's so large, and has a Station IV for sale. Perfect for the evil UC noble playthrough.
Definitely agree with his S-tier list, I love Flats Lagoon a lot. Pretty cozy even with not that many shops and definitely the more uniquely designed cities like he says.
IMO stack has ONE unique thing, that can't be underrated: is the ONLY CITY that has a metal vein INSIDE THE CITY WALLS. This is a game changer. You can base you entire early game and the fact that you are surrounded by other ores is also a good thing
While I agree that an iron node for the early game inside the city walls sounds quite nice, personally I don't find it as useful since I love my copper nodes since early game non skelly characters rather disposable not only that but as someone who plays vanilla with limb disembodiement on frequent I like having a character loose a limb or two since it is great setup for midgame when you can buy expensive ish prosthetics that are already very strong without being top of the line especially on hivers for many different reasons, not only that but I generally find characters dying early game very rare since you don't face strong ish (for early/mid game at least) enemies like town guards. TLDR: copper node > iron note, risk = fun.
there's also in mongrel an automated drill to get iron, way faster, copper is more valuable, but it has been nerfed, the prices are lower in the current version.
Damn, I never knew that. This means it makes great sense to find some cheap companions early on which you intend to use as laborers and have them constantly mine in a separate group within Stack, since they'll be completely safe in there and will level up laboring and strength. Nice.
I love basing in the Great Desert... setting up mining operations and trade routes to the nearby cities... I like building up a few armourers and then setting up bandana shops in Sho Battai and Heft, while setting up a mining operation by the Pentapus corpse north of Stoat
Really love mongrel, as it is supposedly a runaway haven for criminal, reminds me to the image of ninja village in japan, high up in the mountain shrouded by fog, making it hard for authorities to find the village. As for the robotic part, they have it because maybe if the fugitive run there and lost some limbs, they can get it treated
I always make my base in catun first to get all research, there is a store there that dayly restocks arround 20-34 research books, there are 2 bars for food, and random recruits, there is shinobi thiefs to buy discount backpacks, beak thinks provide endless animal leather both to sell or to farm armor crafting EXP, also i rob the noble of all his values, sake is worth more down there too, and the building you can buy there are huge, longhouses and even watchtowers are for sale
but you live near nobles 🤢🤢🤮🤮and those stupid stairs that take long to go down and up ugh anyway its a great place even if I dont like the vibe about that
Black Scratch for me is A Tier I has a ROBOTICS shop in addition to the library. The Tech Hunter shop that spawns every type of backpack including the nice ninja backpacks. A medium sized Y shaped home and smaller homes, which allows you to have a small little empire that can extend safely outwards into the surrounding zones. Those zones are absolutely crawling with grass bandits and reavers, which constantly attack the town providing you much needed gear, income, and possible slaves. Unlike Brink which barely even qualifies as a town due to the poor selection of shops and layout, Black Scratch has some character. The hills grew on me. I also find it humorous when I take my band of 6 out on an expedition and get a random reaver raid that sends me limping right back into town 10s of thousands catz richer. The irony of the location is that it is both well placed . . . next to very alien and diverse dangerous biomes and also so far away from everything else that you need a multiple day expedition to get anywhere. A centrally located home base would be more suitable, but the Tech Hunter town really warmed my heart in my first playthrough.
I know this video is old but in my opinion I love Black Scratch's wasteland vibe. I mean... yeah it's bleak but a looking at a sunrise from the distant coast is nice and the ruins it's built around is cool.
The one thing i don't like about the Holy nation cities is that they are not practical to live in. In Stack you can only have small shacks so no large crafting and research there. In Bad teeth you can have a large building but no engineering shops so you cannot stock on supplies there easily. In Blister hill again you can only have small shacks
I think that must be intentional though, as the holy nation shuns technology and intellectual pursuits in general (at least for the average populace), unless they pertain to their holy text in some way.
@@w0t_m818 Still though they need space to live in. Also i think they shun only advanced technology as you can clearly see electricity in their cities. So maybe simple practical stuff ok but advanced stuff are a no go
I am currently building a outpost around clownsteady. And I feel you don't give it a fair shake. First. And I don't know about about your game. But have purchased 3 buildings in the city. One is a crafting hub. one I am using as a store and storehouse. and one is a bunk house. The surrounding area is plentiful. The arid climate and plentiful water makes it easy to grow cactus There is a spot just south of the city with clumped together copper nodes that I'm able to get a substantial amount of cats from. The bandits are for the most part starving farmers. Just north of the city you can hunt swamp turtles to feed your people. It's so far a really good spring board for mid game. The city itself is cramped and out of the way but the surrounding area is middling difficult and plentiful of resources.
I’m a scrub figuring game out still. Made most my early cash selling all the gear from people in jail cells in squin they always seem to be locking people up .
Bad Teeth sucks for one simple reason, they dont sell any healing item. If you manage to crawl here from near death, there is not a single store that sells bandages, neither bar have sold them from my experience. Destroying Bad Teeth is a personal thing for me because of this since what I said earlier happened on my early playthroughs.
when i started my man with a dog campaign one of the big cities in the great desert was a ghost city but it was not a ghost city in my other games. Did that happen for anyone else?
Deadcat shouldnt be in F, should be B. It is nothing special when it comes to shops ect. But that isnt really the point. I really like the twist. The first time i wemt there i didnt even know it was the cannibal capital. Imagine being a new player fighting cannibals for days and then Deadcat presents itself as a safe haven like Mongrel. But by the time you get there and realise that the name switched it might already be to late. Really cool.
Just started the video. Mongral better be S tier or any and all trust I have in you is lost. Update: Good boy. Mongrel is just, one of the most perfect cities. Easy to train just about everything there.
If you ally yourself with the Flotsam ninjas and take out lord phoenix then they will sell you his destroyed palace that you can repair and make your home. So Blister Hill has large houses for you, you just need to destroy the holy nation to get them.
Good point
how you can ally flotsam ninjas ?
@@firatcantatarka671 I just go to their village after I've defeated Bugmaster and took the grand inquisitor kill quest from the Shek. I think they are friendly to me by default even before that.
thank you for fast reply
@@firatcantatarka671not as fast a reply but you can also just go to Moll and tell them you dislike the HN, then you don’t need to kill the Bugmaster or capture any government officials
Catun is one of the most underrated cities in the whole game in my opinion. I know it doesn't have too many shops and it is quite tough to even get there. But the feeling of being there on the top of that small plateau surrounded by an endless desert filled with ancient ruins is simply amazing, there is some sort of sense of peace there. It is also an quite good location to live, a decent set of buyable structures (including a Outpost III), and due to the constant Skin Spiders/Beak things attacks in the first gate there is always an insane amount of leather you can get just by staying there for a while.
It gets taken over by fishmen if you kill the right people.
@@KokoplaysMB Yes that's my main problem with the city actually, I kinda wish it got some more world states tied to it, sometimes I even think that Catun should be considered an idependent town, as it don't fit with the empire all that much. At least there is a mod that makes it under control of the Tech Hunters, and I'm also planning on creating a small override to add my own faction on control of it in my current playthrough
@@olivierrodriguesneto5995
Catun is a quite large castle city positioned on top of one of the most defensible locations in the world, or at least I think so.
It's a midway point between the Empire's mainland in the Great Deserts and their Southern territories like Clownsteady.
I think it makes perfect sense for the UC to have a strong fortress in the middle of the Boneyard acting as force projection for it and the areas around it, as well as a safe haven for their traders to stop at before heading further toward either part of Empire lands
@@b.t4604 It definetly is a good town for smuggling but I would recommend trying out Flats Lagoon, probably the most optimal town for smuggling. Catun is a nice starting area for training and money too, there are near constant Beak Things on the outer walls, meaning a constant source of leather and meat, also trying to fight them is a awesome way to train, beak things are some of the best oponents for early combat leveling (remember to only block so you can raise your defence), just be 100% sure that there is someone ready to save your character for being eaten alive.
Gotta respect the love people have for Catun. I never felt it was anything special, but seeing how many people really like it, here in the comments and in chat on streams, you got my respect.
Good tier list. I'd put Mourn on A because I love the chaos in that place, it is also my base whenever I start exploring the south of the map. You can also power the city with your own generators and people will start maning the harpoon turrets. Feels like you're restoring the city a bit.
+1
Mourn has automated ore drills which provide endless iron for grinding up armor smith via plate beating station. It also has a fun sparring partner in the research lab for levelling combat skills.
Powered Mourn is an endless source of meat and has the 400% markup on hash.
I love your tier list and think it is spot on except for 2 small changes. I would put Squin in A tier, as it is my favorite place to start a "beginner's base" in. It has some relatively strong characters to recruit for a good start. At least 4 copper and 4 iron mines within safe distance from town, as well as plenty of places to sell the ore. Lots of lower level enemies to train on and several towns and way stations nearby once you are ready to stock up for full on base building. I would also put Black Desert City in S tear due to how cool it looks and my favorite shopping spot, the scrapyard.
Black Desert City has my favorite stealing spot as well
@@KokoplaysMB Me too, I learned that little trick from you😁. Many thanks!
Mongrel is great, the Y house for sale is a nice size, there's a shack beside it that is also for sale. The shack I often place an ore storage in so I can have new recruits mine iron near the gate covered by guards and the auto hauling will reach the shack. Usually I use the iron to make armor plates to train armor smithing (sells good). Ends up being my western HQ where I gather research and grind out tech there.
Plenty of power to research and craft all seasons. Downside is food has a high mark-up, if you get hydroponics you either manually collect water from the automated well in town or get a mod for making water in town.
I also bait the nearby fogmen prisoner polls with fogmen bodies, it attracts the princes to chow on them and I send the squad out to collect some heads.
Tell me why I just got the Y building and shack this morning
I was pleasantly surprised when you mentioned Flats Lagoon.
I like it for the lore reasons. I mean, all the swamp area used to be a lake or body of water of some sort, and boats and ships were the main methods of transportation.
Having it all dried up now and to see that the city still remains with its original design as a “Platform City” (Reminding me of sea petrol stations) is what gives it its cool factor to me.
Great list! I personally rate Heft as being S tier though because it's so large, and has a Station IV for sale. Perfect for the evil UC noble playthrough.
Definitely agree with his S-tier list, I love Flats Lagoon a lot. Pretty cozy even with not that many shops and definitely the more uniquely designed cities like he says.
IMO stack has ONE unique thing, that can't be underrated: is the ONLY CITY that has a metal vein INSIDE THE CITY WALLS. This is a game changer. You can base you entire early game and the fact that you are surrounded by other ores is also a good thing
While I agree that an iron node for the early game inside the city walls sounds quite nice, personally I don't find it as useful since I love my copper nodes since early game non skelly characters rather disposable not only that but as someone who plays vanilla with limb disembodiement on frequent I like having a character loose a limb or two since it is great setup for midgame when you can buy expensive ish prosthetics that are already very strong without being top of the line especially on hivers for many different reasons, not only that but I generally find characters dying early game very rare since you don't face strong ish (for early/mid game at least) enemies like town guards.
TLDR: copper node > iron note, risk = fun.
@@Chelsea_2001 I know what you mean, but we are talking about the best cities. Cities = comfort. Which is on the wrong side of risk.
there's also in mongrel an automated drill to get iron, way faster, copper is more valuable, but it has been nerfed, the prices are lower in the current version.
Damn, I never knew that. This means it makes great sense to find some cheap companions early on which you intend to use as laborers and have them constantly mine in a separate group within Stack, since they'll be completely safe in there and will level up laboring and strength. Nice.
You can mine the huge blue metal remains (the ones larger than the city itself) within the walls of both Mourn and Catun for Iron.
I love basing in the Great Desert... setting up mining operations and trade routes to the nearby cities...
I like building up a few armourers and then setting up bandana shops in Sho Battai and Heft, while setting up a mining operation by the Pentapus corpse north of Stoat
Very good video mate! Thanks from a new Kenshi player!
The history of Spring despite being recent is very rich, including the other features you mentioned, it deserves S-Tier.
Really love mongrel, as it is supposedly a runaway haven for criminal, reminds me to the image of ninja village in japan, high up in the mountain shrouded by fog, making it hard for authorities to find the village. As for the robotic part, they have it because maybe if the fugitive run there and lost some limbs, they can get it treated
I always make my base in catun first to get all research, there is a store there that dayly restocks arround 20-34 research books, there are 2 bars for food, and random recruits, there is shinobi thiefs to buy discount backpacks, beak thinks provide endless animal leather both to sell or to farm armor crafting EXP, also i rob the noble of all his values, sake is worth more down there too, and the building you can buy there are huge, longhouses and even watchtowers are for sale
but you live near nobles 🤢🤢🤮🤮and those stupid stairs that take long to go down and up ugh
anyway its a great place even if I dont like the vibe about that
ooh a good channel for kenshi, finally
I might have made a video or two (hundred) in the past
Love those tier lists man, keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Why, oh why, have you waited this long to recomend me this channel UA-cam. Guess I have several months of binge watching to do
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Black Scratch for me is A Tier I has a ROBOTICS shop in addition to the library. The Tech Hunter shop that spawns every type of backpack including the nice ninja backpacks. A medium sized Y shaped home and smaller homes, which allows you to have a small little empire that can extend safely outwards into the surrounding zones. Those zones are absolutely crawling with grass bandits and reavers, which constantly attack the town providing you much needed gear, income, and possible slaves. Unlike Brink which barely even qualifies as a town due to the poor selection of shops and layout, Black Scratch has some character. The hills grew on me. I also find it humorous when I take my band of 6 out on an expedition and get a random reaver raid that sends me limping right back into town 10s of thousands catz richer. The irony of the location is that it is both well placed . . . next to very alien and diverse dangerous biomes and also so far away from everything else that you need a multiple day expedition to get anywhere. A centrally located home base would be more suitable, but the Tech Hunter town really warmed my heart in my first playthrough.
Rockin mate, great vid! Thank you
I appreciate all the info and extra info bro! Seems like coolness weighs a lot lol. Lagoon and heft probably shoulda been swapped ;)
I know this video is old but in my opinion I love Black Scratch's wasteland vibe. I mean... yeah it's bleak but a looking at a sunrise from the distant coast is nice and the ruins it's built around is cool.
The one thing i don't like about the Holy nation cities is that they are not practical to live in. In Stack you can only have small shacks so no large crafting and research there. In Bad teeth you can have a large building but no engineering shops so you cannot stock on supplies there easily. In Blister hill again you can only have small shacks
I think that must be intentional though, as the holy nation shuns technology and intellectual pursuits in general (at least for the average populace), unless they pertain to their holy text in some way.
@@w0t_m818 Still though they need space to live in. Also i think they shun only advanced technology as you can clearly see electricity in their cities. So maybe simple practical stuff ok but advanced stuff are a no go
Feel with Black Desert City, while its a bit outside, I feel it was worth mentioning the scrap house weapon smith.
Finally it arrives the supreme video!
I am currently building a outpost around clownsteady. And I feel you don't give it a fair shake.
First. And I don't know about about your game. But have purchased 3 buildings in the city. One is a crafting hub. one I am using as a store and storehouse. and one is a bunk house. The surrounding area is plentiful. The arid climate and plentiful water makes it easy to grow cactus There is a spot just south of the city with clumped together copper nodes that I'm able to get a substantial amount of cats from. The bandits are for the most part starving farmers. Just north of the city you can hunt swamp turtles to feed your people. It's so far a really good spring board for mid game. The city itself is cramped and out of the way but the surrounding area is middling difficult and plentiful of resources.
Mourn is great for food, because *YOU* are the food!
But if you can handle the beak things you pretty much have infinite food.
I’m a scrub figuring game out still. Made most my early cash selling all the gear from people in jail cells in squin they always seem to be locking people up .
Bad Teeth sucks for one simple reason, they dont sell any healing item. If you manage to crawl here from near death, there is not a single store that sells bandages, neither bar have sold them from my experience. Destroying Bad Teeth is a personal thing for me because of this since what I said earlier happened on my early playthroughs.
when i started my man with a dog campaign one of the big cities in the great desert was a ghost city but it was not a ghost city in my other games. Did that happen for anyone else?
Sick channel
Deadcat shouldnt be in F, should be B. It is nothing special when it comes to shops ect. But that isnt really the point. I really like the twist. The first time i wemt there i didnt even know it was the cannibal capital. Imagine being a new player fighting cannibals for days and then Deadcat presents itself as a safe haven like Mongrel. But by the time you get there and realise that the name switched it might already be to late. Really cool.
black scratch has a library
Missed out on making this video great by not having cinematics
Ive completely destroyed every single one. Every faction is out to get me.
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Swordly Mistaken.
Just started the video. Mongral better be S tier or any and all trust I have in you is lost.
Update: Good boy. Mongrel is just, one of the most perfect cities. Easy to train just about everything there.
Happy to not disappoint
Mongrel is #1