I watch your car videos, I didn't realise you had done these older RC ones. Must have come up on my feed as I have been looking at RC content after discovering my destroyed original Hornet while clearing my Mum's loft! I had an Optima chain drive but then I passed my driving test and got a real car so it was good watching this and having a catch up! 😊
I long for the day when me and my old buddies went to a sunny little parking lot and ripped our old school buggies..the simple life Hopefully we will do it again 30 years after ... only this time with 30mins run time and temps below solder melting points....
Started racing RC cars in the mid to late 80's with my first new car being a Taniya Thundershot. After modding it and starting to loose to better cars, I moved onto the Kyosho Optima series of cars. (most guys were using Kyosho Optima and Schumacher CAT by then)
A great trip down memory lane. I had the Tamiya Hotshot before moving onto the Kyosho Optima and then the PB Mini Mustang. Shame I no longer have them, and do envy that he still has them.
Jack, I should have realised it was you. As an Elise owner/former owner, you have great taste. I love all three but, If I had to choose, it would be the PB Mini Mustang my friend!! I hope you have kept them and if you ever want to part with the Mustang, please give me a shout!! Thumbs up!!
Originally the PB Mini Mustang & the Schumacher CAT were supposed to be 1 car, a joint development between PB & Schumacher but there was a difference of opinion about development of the car so Keith Plested & Cecil Schumacher went thier separate ways & the rest as they say is history.
Great trip down memory lane and very interesting! I'm going to rummage around my parents loft at some point and hopefully find my old grasshopper buggy :-) 🖒
Good blast from the past. I had a Mini Mustang replacing my RC10. 4WD changed the game but the Mustang couldnt hild a torch yo the Cat and was redundant in no time.
These new RC vids you're doing are awesome. In fact, I've spend a considerable amount of time on Ebay following your Hornet video looking for vintage Tamiya stuff! As soon as I'd finished watching your Hornet vid, I was on the phone to my Mum asking to get my old Manta Ray and associated ton of spares down from the loft thinking I could restore it, to which she replied, "oh, that old thing, it went in the bin years ago". Nooooooooooo!
Remember the PB's well, would absolutely fly for about 4-5 laps especially when they had the 2 speed gearbox, then break down or something would snap....Great video, thank you.
Great collection, Cecil Schumacher actually invented the ball differential for RC cars, and they dont run the 2-speed because it was made for nitro cars that had a mechanical brakes as the two-speed mades the car free wheels off the throttle as first gear was on a one-way bearing and the second gear rides on a ball bearing with a two shoes clutch, I tried to race my PB Mini Mustang and it was hard with no brakes, but all of these are legends,
Ball diffs were around from the days of 1/8 pan cars. Associated and Serpent used them on their cars and these were well before the Schumacher had ever been released. My RC 500, RC 300 and RC200 along with My Serpent 1/8 track car as well as the Quattro and the very first Cobra and the RC10.
My first serious racing rc car was the optima which was modified in various ways. Then I got the cat which was so much better. As far as I remember the pb suffered from brittle plastic parts in the cold english winter weather
Reminds me of buggy club, I was struggling to keep my worn out second hand super sabre running while a lot of the other kids had kyosho lazers and schumacher cat and cat2, I eventually got a lazer but the cool kids were onto lazer 2 and some other ones I can't remember. I remember with the lazer if you hit anything hard with it the little wishbone pivot retainer cap thing would snap and they were about £5 each, eventually my dad milled me one out of aluminium which solved the problem
Feel for you.. I was also budget limited but a little earlier in the game than you were. Had a wild one for my initial racing where others had Optimas and RC10's!! Thanks for watching and happy holidays
Love the channel and very informative content (just subbed). I'm getting ready to get my feet wet in this awesome hobby with the Kyosho Rage 2.0 for my birthday (Feb 26 I'll be 34). I had a few toys r us RC cars when I was in elementary school, the Fast Traxx (my first car) the Dagger (2nd car) and my cousin had the Rebound lol. These were not hobby grade cars in the least but now I'm finally going to get a proper first RC car that I can learn from and upgrade as my knowledge and skills progress. PS sorry about the long comment (didn't mean to write you a novel lol) I'm just REALLY excited! One last thing do you think the Kyosho Rage 2.0 is a good first RC car or would you recommend something different? I figured I should ask you being that you are an expert and I hope you have a wonderful day. ✌️😎👍🏎️💨
Great cars, I had all but the Mustang, not that I didn't want one buy my pocket money wasn't enough at the time. That looks like the Turbo version of the Optima since it has the Option House gold shocks, which were sooo much better than the red stock ones. I think I used the OH shocks on the my next 3 cars until Associated produced something as good. :)
Well I was a high school kid...so I wouldn’t be surprised if I did something wrong...but I’d get about a month out of the plastic counter gear....eventually I upgraded to a MIP center counter gear. Got very good at disassembling it and reassembling it.
There are some helpful hints out there on the web where those who habe built the new Masami CAT advise not following the instruction manual to the letter. There is an easier way to assemble the kit. Also, some have said parts were missing from their kit.
If i remember rightly the frog would suffer drive shaft wear and gear slippage on higher power motors this was due to incorrect meshing of one of the two similar second and third gears this could be remedied by putting washer between gear and gearbox case
I raced the optima in the 80s at club meets but it weighed too much compared with the cats that just beat everything else. Chain drive was also just too inefficient compared to belt drive
When The Cat began to win every races Kyosho improved the Optima with a belt conversion kit for the Optima Turbo. They won the european championship with the french driver José Rosas (I think it was in 1986). Then came the Optima Mid and another european title in 1988 with another french driver Denis Blandin.
Had all of them back then and I really like how they are looked back on as greats but at the time, they were really crappy cars. The optima weighed a ton, the shumachers were really fragile cars with piano wire hinge pins and a belt drive that was way over engineered and the early yokomos king of worked but the suspension was a joke and a gearbox that was about 6 inches long. Probably why the RC10 came along and made Rc racing possible for everyone. But I will always love looking at the old pictures of the 4wd cars. They just look cool.
My son raced this car when it was new. We used a Kyosho 360ST motor and 7 cell battery pack. It was the fastest car on the track at the time. A year or two later my 9 year old daughter raced the car and won the A mains many times.
Trip down memory lane. I remember racing my hornet in the queens hall in derby. Good times.
I watch your car videos, I didn't realise you had done these older RC ones. Must have come up on my feed as I have been looking at RC content after discovering my destroyed original Hornet while clearing my Mum's loft! I had an Optima chain drive but then I passed my driving test and got a real car so it was good watching this and having a catch up! 😊
I long for the day when me and my old buddies went to a sunny little parking lot and ripped our old school buggies..the simple life
Hopefully we will do it again 30 years after ... only this time with 30mins run time and temps below solder melting points....
Started racing RC cars in the mid to late 80's with my first new car being a Taniya Thundershot. After modding it and starting to loose to better cars, I moved onto the Kyosho Optima series of cars. (most guys were using Kyosho Optima and Schumacher CAT by then)
A great trip down memory lane. I had the Tamiya Hotshot before moving onto the Kyosho Optima and then the PB Mini Mustang. Shame I no longer have them, and do envy that he still has them.
I had the Frog , Mardave Metor, Cat XLS . Happy days seeing theses cars again.
Jack, I should have realised it was you. As an Elise owner/former owner, you have great taste. I love all three but, If I had to choose, it would be the PB Mini Mustang my friend!! I hope you have kept them and if you ever want to part with the Mustang, please give me a shout!! Thumbs up!!
Originally the PB Mini Mustang & the Schumacher CAT were supposed to be 1 car, a joint development between PB & Schumacher but there was a difference of opinion about development of the car so Keith Plested & Cecil Schumacher went thier separate ways & the rest as they say is history.
Absolutely right!!
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you. I was blessed to have two new in the box Masami editions in my bedroom. Maybe, I will build one someday.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great trip down memory lane and very interesting! I'm going to rummage around my parents loft at some point and hopefully find my old grasshopper buggy :-) 🖒
Brilliant video
Good blast from the past. I had a Mini Mustang replacing my RC10. 4WD changed the game but the Mustang couldnt hild a torch yo the Cat and was redundant in no time.
Of them all though the RC10 was the best piece of engineering.
These new RC vids you're doing are awesome. In fact, I've spend a considerable amount of time on Ebay following your Hornet video looking for vintage Tamiya stuff!
As soon as I'd finished watching your Hornet vid, I was on the phone to my Mum asking to get my old Manta Ray and associated ton of spares down from the loft thinking I could restore it, to which she replied, "oh, that old thing, it went in the bin years ago". Nooooooooooo!
Ewan Turner nightmare scenario!! Mothers clearing out old toys. Off with her head!!
Remember the PB's well, would absolutely fly for about 4-5 laps especially when they had the 2 speed gearbox, then break down or something would snap....Great video, thank you.
Thanks buddy, they were indeed quick but so fragile.. and the LWB cat made up the lost ground!
I had all of the cars in this video.
Great collection, Cecil Schumacher actually invented the ball differential for RC cars, and they dont run the 2-speed because it was made for nitro cars that had a mechanical brakes as the two-speed mades the car free wheels off the throttle as first gear was on a one-way bearing and the second gear rides on a ball bearing with a two shoes clutch, I tried to race my PB Mini Mustang and it was hard with no brakes, but all of these are legends,
Ball diffs were around from the days of 1/8 pan cars. Associated and Serpent used them on their cars and these were well before the Schumacher had ever been released. My RC 500, RC 300 and RC200 along with My Serpent 1/8 track car as well as the Quattro and the very first Cobra and the RC10.
That's some collection very impressive cars love car build looks great 👌🏻
Cheers ~Paul.. and thanks for continuing to watch my vids!
Set of cheeky Option House gold shocks. Nice
Another fantastic video my friend - always look forward to seeing what you’re up to next
Who knew a maker of shoes would turn out to be a great RC car manufacturer
Ha!!!
My first serious racing rc car was the optima which was modified in various ways. Then I got the cat which was so much better. As far as I remember the pb suffered from brittle plastic parts in the cold english winter weather
Beautiful trio of buggies top notch stuff!! liked and subbed :)
Reminds me of buggy club, I was struggling to keep my worn out second hand super sabre running while a lot of the other kids had kyosho lazers and schumacher cat and cat2, I eventually got a lazer but the cool kids were onto lazer 2 and some other ones I can't remember. I remember with the lazer if you hit anything hard with it the little wishbone pivot retainer cap thing would snap and they were about £5 each, eventually my dad milled me one out of aluminium which solved the problem
Feel for you.. I was also budget limited but a little earlier in the game than you were. Had a wild one for my initial racing where others had Optimas and RC10's!! Thanks for watching and happy holidays
Love the channel and very informative content (just subbed). I'm getting ready to get my feet wet in this awesome hobby with the Kyosho Rage 2.0 for my birthday (Feb 26 I'll be 34). I had a few toys r us RC cars when I was in elementary school, the Fast Traxx (my first car) the Dagger (2nd car) and my cousin had the Rebound lol. These were not hobby grade cars in the least but now I'm finally going to get a proper first RC car that I can learn from and upgrade as my knowledge and skills progress. PS sorry about the long comment (didn't mean to write you a novel lol) I'm just REALLY excited! One last thing do you think the Kyosho Rage 2.0 is a good first RC car or would you recommend something different? I figured I should ask you being that you are an expert and I hope you have a wonderful day. ✌️😎👍🏎️💨
Hahaha best channel ever, no BMW M5, no Bugatti Veyron, just nice Porsche, Lotus, Subaru, Ferrari and Schumacher
Brilliant!! So glad your tastes match mine!! Thank for watching
Great cars, I had all but the Mustang, not that I didn't want one buy my pocket money wasn't enough at the time. That looks like the Turbo version of the Optima since it has the Option House gold shocks, which were sooo much better than the red stock ones. I think I used the OH shocks on the my next 3 cars until Associated produced something as good. :)
Had an optima mid with an A&L trailing arm chassis. Loved it except for the need to replace the counter gear constantly due to stripping.
Never had that problem with mine!
Well I was a high school kid...so I wouldn’t be surprised if I did something wrong...but I’d get about a month out of the plastic counter gear....eventually I upgraded to a MIP center counter gear. Got very good at disassembling it and reassembling it.
awesome man just awesome!
Thanks Man!! love these cars
pb mustang is worth quite alot these days
Built up a Cat XLS recently I share your pain was frustrating at times. Nonetheless it’s a great car now it’s built.
There are some helpful hints out there on the web where those who habe built the new Masami CAT advise not following the instruction manual to the letter. There is an easier way to assemble the kit. Also, some have said parts were missing from their kit.
If i remember rightly the frog would suffer drive shaft wear and gear slippage on higher power motors this was due to incorrect meshing of one of the two similar second and third gears this could be remedied by putting washer between gear and gearbox case
I have wondered whether the designers of the Associated RC-10 were inspired by The Cat.
The RC10 came first.. thanks for watching!
@@Number27 I appreciate the information. Could you please review the Schumacher Top Cat and maybe do a side by side comparison with the Masami XLS?
great , you made buy a cat xls !
I raced the optima in the 80s at club meets but it weighed too much compared with the cats that just beat everything else. Chain drive was also just too inefficient compared to belt drive
When The Cat began to win every races Kyosho improved the Optima with a belt conversion kit for the Optima Turbo. They won the european championship with the french driver José Rosas (I think it was in 1986). Then came the Optima Mid and another european title in 1988 with another french driver Denis Blandin.
Awesome👍
Glad you like it.. got a Maxima now too!!
Nice beauty’s
Had all of them back then and I really like how they are looked back on as greats but at the time, they were really crappy cars. The optima weighed a ton, the shumachers were really fragile cars with piano wire hinge pins and a belt drive that was way over engineered and the early yokomos king of worked but the suspension was a joke and a gearbox that was about 6 inches long. Probably why the RC10 came along and made Rc racing possible for everyone. But I will always love looking at the old pictures of the 4wd cars. They just look cool.
i have the cat xls and tamiya fox
Do you actually test drive them? or are they now in a box in the gaff- no dirt near them!
Mr Bentley nope... too ashamed at my age. Maybe we can take Rupert some day!
@@Number27 what do you mean to ashamed?
Tamiya Hotshot was first?
Nope Optima was before it!
The Optima is not one of the first 4wd competition buggies at all. There are many and numerous from several manufacturers.
How many other 4wd buggies were there in 1985? I can only think of the Yokomo Dogfighter?
@@Number27 The Hirobo Zerda, Mugen Bulldog and Kyosho progress were all released before the optima, probably in 1984. There are others I'm sure.
He is still correct to say the Optima was ONE of the first.
Cool vid. You waste no time in your videos. Good job. Painting inside your house?
Keep them short for youtube... people have short attention spans!
Here is my Mini Mustang racing: ua-cam.com/video/ESjaJxfAvBc/v-deo.html
Love it!
My son raced this car when it was new. We used a Kyosho 360ST motor and 7 cell battery pack. It was the fastest car on the track at the time. A year or two later my 9 year old daughter raced the car and won the A mains many times.