Yeah, and this notion/belief is the moral/logical grounds conservatives use to justify extreme actions and beliefs. If there's any author conservatives try to twist to sound righteous its Orwell. The problem lies in repeated and extreme political ideology translating into real life behavior and actions that go on and influence other actions and etc. Its intellectually lazy at least, and consciously deceitful at worst to really say/imply "oh words are just words" and "they dont have any influence or wind up making a difference in society and its actions, you're actually bad and a hypocrite for thinking so and you must hate freedom and liberty, why are you so unamerican". That kind if centrist logic/dialogue tree is getting more and more facetious and dishonest as time goes on, and its fucking sad.
@no_problem8023 The amount of times I've heard Conservatives try to say Orwell was right-wing anti-communist. Leaving aside the fact that American and British politics are VERY different, he was anti-authoritarian and also a socialist. Animal Farm was a critique of Stalin, etc.
@@no_problem8023 Yeah, it's not that words have no impact, it's that adults recognise that the world isn't perfect. Just because something causes harm doesn't mean you get to remove it. Sometimes, that harm is necessary. We need to be able to speak our minds or democracy cannot function. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin. It's like how helicopter parenting, despite probably causing the child to be more likely to make it to adulthood, is very detrimental to the child's development into a healthy adult. Children need to be able to make mistakes and learn from them.
I personally hate book banning for pretty much any reason but I can see a school board banning for three not just one reason. 1. As you said, pure pornography. 2. A book which presents itself as a factual account of an event but turns out to be filled with lies. 3. A book which advocates violence. Outside a school setting I wouldn't ban for any of those reasons, however uncomfortable the second and third might make me personally.
The thing is, that's pretty much what's happening. If Daniel wants to make an argument that "there are all these sexually inappropriate content straight relationship books they aren't removing"...that I can get behind. Remove those for kids too. Inappropriate content, whether it's LGBT or straight, doesn't belong in an environment where a child can access it without their parent's consent. And they actually are removing sexually explicit straight content books as well...the media just doesn't mention it. But I can tell you first hand as someone who works in the public library system and has had these books in my hands...in no way shape or form do the books they are restricting belong in the eyes of kids, and even my gay parents agree 100% and were utterly appalled at the content in some of these books. From my experience with what we circulate and curate, and having been in these meetings with parents and religious leaders regarding content and access, none of them are against books that contain LGBT characters in them providing the content is age appropriate. To me that's where the gaslighting frustrates me. Daniel doesn't tell you (maybe he doesn't know) that most of these groups/parents pushing for bans on inappropriate content are ALSO targeting plenty of books with straight relationships. If they are restricting books simply because there are LGBT characters or relationships (appropriate relationships) in them, then that's a different story, and that's a problem. But from what I can tell with what we circulate and curate, and having been in these meetings with parents and religious leaders regarding content and access, none of them are against books that contain LGBT characters in them providing the content is age appropriate. Also, these books are not banned and any parent and any time can order them on Amazon or buy them at a book store. That's not a ban. A ban is how they completely removed Dr. Seuss books from publication and circulation and you can no longer purchase them anywhere.
It’s only in school, not nation-wide banning which would be much different imo. I agree with your 3 points, I also think banning religious books should be applied evenly. If you’re gonna do it for one, do it for all y’know. The reason it seems LGBT authors seem to be being targeted is because they are so much more likely to involve explicit sexual content in their books. The LGBT lobby is extremely sexually liberal; of course it doesn’t mean every book is gonna have sex in it but it’s like saying heavily religious authors are gonna be more likely to put religious messages in their books lol. The way I see it, schools already censor so much when it comes to other things like drugs and murder, even hunting, but when it comes to literal step-by-step sex instruction for kids some people get so mad that parents don’t want that shit being available to their kids 😅
@@Maxavian Expecting Greene, or anyone on his side of the isle to be honest about what's going on is too optimistic, friend. But you're correct. The removal of those Seuss books and the UK sensitivity edits of Dahl were much more sweeping and dangerous precedent than this.
Person of faith here (still working on humble). Absolute yes to your full chest, book bans speech! I grew up in a religious school, and I can name dozens of scholarly teachers there that would agree with you. Let the books exist. They taught me in those religious classrooms that each person must chose their faith, not ignorant of other opinions, but fully aware and loving the opposition. Keep talking, Sir. You are not alone.
Yeah I think the reaction against book banning is a good one since ideas should be challenged, not banned, but where it misses the mark is on books that illustrate sex acts for kids like "Let's talk about it", "Gender Queer", "Its perfectly normal" etc.
@@TheRoarkthis is where there is legitimate nuance to the conversation that is lost. We should be able to have legitimate conversations about sensitive material like that. The fact that there are hateful actors in the mix shouldn’t prevent us from having those discussions. Schools have to get express consent to show movies to class based on certain sensitive content that has led to an R or even PG-13 rating. It’s clear that there is material that should not be available for certain age groups.
@TheRoark person of faith here. I literally only protest the books that are just outright pornographic. They're horrendous and honestly just harmful for the LGBTQ+ community because it sets a bad example for what these people are actually like. I wouldn't let my kid read about straight sex and I won't let them read about homosexual sex either. It's the sex part that bothers me, not the gay part.
I think that calling what is happening "book banning" is intellectually dishonest. No one is banning books, however they are removing them from the youngest children's sections if they are sexually explicit, why would anyone be against that? The books are still available everywhere else and they are not being banned from reading them outside of the children's section.
@@johnv3788 Removing ANY mention of a minority group from literature is utter ridiculousness, no matter what age group. Daniel already gave the caveat that sexually explicit material was obviously inappropriate for children as they can not consent. But banning a book that simply mentions a character with two dads or two moms, written with the express purpose of helping kids to not be cruel or otherwise prejudiced, in an attempt to emotionally segregate an entire group of people , is disgusting.
They banned freaking ANNE FRANK! Why? That's a diary of a 13 year old Jewish girl hiding in WWII. It has so much historic value, with the bonus of being very readable by teenage children.
I mean... because they're Nazis? It makes them look kind of bad. But yes, I suppose your question is, how can Nazis exist and be able to ban books in this day and age? And the answer probably has something to do with denying children reading material for decades so they can be indoctrinated into racism, misogyny and the like. :(
Actually they didn’t the diary of Anne frank was school approved the teacher that was fired because she read Anne franks diary which is a graphic unabridged version that contains sexually explicit material but that doesn’t make as good of a headline I guess
5:48 With book banning being as hot button as it is I feel it's incredibly important to specify _which_ books have been banned and why. There are some books that are straight up porn, or contain sexual themes that no child should be exposed to, but there's also historically significant texts being removed. Using the generalization of 'LGBTQ authors' just continues to pour gas on this dumpster fire.
Ppl on the left were banning Dr Seuss and other books from school libraries and parents dont want pictures of teens giving BJs and discussing sexual acts in middle school libraries. I dont like the implication that you’re a bigot and a liar according to Daniel if you dont like that. Im not unsubscribing tho. I enjoy his content and you are very correct; context is important.
I really like what our school does. we have a rating system and you can set limits on what your kid can check out. so if you have personal beliefs that make you not want your kid to read it fine, but its still there and available for my kid
I keep saying, what we as Christian are to ONLY keep ourselves accountable to OUR rules. To all others, we love them as Jesus loved them. Keep it out of policy that effects more than just us!!!
Great, but that isn't the issue. As a atheist giving elementary schools books explaining how one boy can can give head to another boy or how to play with yourself. That isn't even close to age appropriate. I mean good god do your recall porn mags in public schools?
I say this constantly. I wish more people heard it and actually absorbed this statement. Jesus's MOST IMPORTANT LESSON was to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. Not love your neighbor UNLESS they're gay, or UNLESS they don't share your faith. Love. Your. Neighbor. That is what Christianity is to me. Being a good person and loving people for who they are, regardless of choices. What these people are doing is horse shit and needs to be stopped.
@@Zfullz Pretty sure jesus would be yelling WTF when a book about giving a blow job is given to an 8 yearold. Might want to look up why this debate is happening, because if was a book about a teaching a boy how to lick a clit... Yeah, it would still be a problem
@@Mustradamus FFS that isn't why these books are being banned, The more you guys pretend it is, the more you tie LGBT to this groomer crap that is in the books. Really look this up
With book banning, kids are ready to read about certain things at different points in their lives. I read A Time To Kill when I was almost 15, but another kid that same age might not be ready for that. If a parent doesn't think their kid is ready to read about a subject, they are still able to exempt their child from having to read the book.
What do you mean "having"? All of the books being banned are just regularly available in libraries, not part of the curriculum. I say all, but the books being banned as part of the curriculum are even more worrying, because they're usually history textbooks that these monsters want to replace with censored revisionist lies.
I agree with about 50% of your book banning statement. Where you go wrong is you give zero examples. Where as, those objecting to certain books have given examples, and those examples have to be censored on the news because they are too graphic, and they are being read by “children” in elementary schools. The books are not being “banned”. They are just not allowed in schools with very young children. Now, I could be wrong, it wouldn’t be the first time, but your general statement that they’re all basically being homophobic, given with zero examples, turns what could’ve been a logical argument into empty, feel good, left wing propaganda. Some Christian groups can get carried away. I can’t speak for them. So, I’ll give you an example from my point of view: “The Earth’s Children” series (Clan of the Cave Bear) is a great book series (or at least it started out that way), but it should not be allowed in elementary schools. And no, you have not lost a subscriber.
Dear god Gunmetal Gods special edition looks STUNNING. And thank you for the kind words, Dan! I'll do my best to make sure Felix unleash his best on the Malazan cover art! 😃
The question I have is: Is it worth getting into knowing that? It sounds like a pretty consistent opinion of the series from what I've seen. I have a huge backlog of media, so I have a habit of dropping if the beginning isn't promising. Books I'm a little more forgiving for, but I was thinking about how to revisit that approach. That being said, I've read Unsouled, and felt like it had a lot of potential, but fell a little short of what it wanted to be. I'll be giving book 2 a try soon, though.
It's a valid question. I would add two things to help. 1. The books are short. 2. If you don't like progression fantasy, don't read them. :) A little each way. Your call ultimately. I'm personally happy I started, but that's just me.
@@user-pv1qk4so6s The series is rather easy to read and gets absolutely bingeable later on. Personally I'd recommend deciding after book three, that's the first one I'd consider "good" instead of just "decent".
No thoughts or ways of thinking should be banned from public view entirely, ever. However schools have always separated sections based on what was appropriate for the different grades. If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available for purchase" 100% agree they need to shut up. If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available to any kid in school", show me the book and, as Daniel pointed out, if it doesn't contain graphic content 100% agree they need to shut up. If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available to grades under Y", That's something that deserves debate and should be looked at and discussed. If you are referring to the books that people had a kid get from school and then the school board told them they were not allowed to read from during a public meeting because it was too graphic....well...the school board should agree anything not appropriate for public discussion is not appropriate, period. (And yes I'm aware that some parent's got books that weren't actually available at school and were told to stop, I have issues with those people as well. Don't be dishonest.)
Yeah i want to know what books are being "banned". I feel like its all just political hype. As far as i know, no books were banned..firstly not letting a book into school isnt even a ban, the book is still accessible in other ways. But more importantly all the books ive heard of being "banned" were only not allowed in public grade schools, and seemed highly inappropriate for young readers. So i think its appropriate. But id like to know what books are being banned from public schools that would be safe and normal to read outside in public, and I'll be on board against those "bans" (btw i was upset that they didn't allow "Mause" in schools for high school but i do understand why theyd have a problem it has a few graphic images, not intended to illicit excitement ofcourse but nevertheless, it's a hard line to draw. Id have allowed it in high school but im from a more liberal area than where that high school was from and those people. i don't think it was fair to bash them either on retrospect.
@@MasterMote “Mause” is a good example of a book that should be discussed by various school boards openly with parents before deciding one way or the other. I feel like some areas would say “not appropriate for school” and other areas would say “only appropriate for specific grades.” I think there are probably even some conservative areas that might feel like it should be available for seniors in the school library for example. As long as things on the line like that are discussed openly I think most people wouldn’t freak out as bad over the decision made.
@@tylergoza Also its dishonest cuz hes making it seem like its the establishment..the only times the "establishment" bans a book at school is when the parents want that book banned. Respect parents, period. Speaking as a parent i realize this is what bothers me most. No one will ever love or care for or make efforts to raise my kids as much as me, naturally. That's how it is with all parents. So i think its disgusting to undermine parents in how they want to raise their kids.
The think I find the most odd about all the book ban stuff is that school libraries have finite space. The truly pornographic stuff isn't going to get on a shelf because schools are going to fill the shelves with stuff that is more beneficial for the students. Many of the books that are being pushed for bans will now be added to the shelves because they've been brought to the attention of the schools that don't have bans. That Gunmetal Gods Ultimate Edition is good looking. I enjoyed the first book and should continue the series.
The truly pornographic stuff *has been* making it's way onto shelves and that's why their banning it. The real question is which adults are responsible for intentionally putting gay porn in front of the eyes of children when it wouldn't normally be there if the shelves were being filled with books that were beneficial to kids?
@@theskyisteal8346- Be careful that you don’t fall for the hype that meeting on the right wing side want to rile you up with to make you believe that the left are big bad bogeyman. Each side loves to play with wedge issues, but most of this is just hype or BS. And just because you see multiple people saying the same thing doesn’t mean much. Usually they’re getting it from the same source and just regurgitating what they’ve heard.
For what it's worth, Christian Bale provided the English voice for Howl (and since the book version was meant to be from Wales, that was a thing too) and Mark Hamill did a voice in Castle In the Sky. There's often been celebrities doing the English voices in Ghibli films, including Timothy Dalton, Kirsten Dunst, Tom Holland, and Sir Patrick Stewart.
Always thought the Christian Bale as Howl thing was so weird. Like, yes, he’s Welsh, but he does an American accent so what was the point? 😂 His voice totally doesn’t match the character anyway, imo 🤷♀️
Howls was the first and only English Ghibli dub I have ever liked, and even then it lacks the punch of the Japanese dialogue in far too many places. IMHO if the dub isn't going to be done by the OG director it shouldn't be done at all. While Patrick Stewart clearly tried his best, his VO work for Nausicaa shows that those responsible for directing the English dub didn't get the character of Lord Yupa at all. It's pretty much the same thing for the few English adaptations of anime films I have seen so far. They westernise everything (including acting style) until all the original flow of the story is just flat and lifeless.
I am a school librarian having to deal with this crap. It's awful. You nailed it on the head that nothing short of pure pornography (and I would add texts and preachings of terrorist groups, etc.) should be banned from a school library. The lack of faith in librarians astounds me as our power is taken and given to politicians. Disgusting.
Really? We live in a culture where teachers on Tik Tok talk about coming out as gay or non-binary to their kindergarten or first grade classes. You think that just because you do your job as a librarian properly that all librarians behave the same?
It's crazy, and librarians are heroes. Thanks for your service. Anyone would think you were being given funds for some new books and immediately going out to buy Morning Glory Milk Farm or something. It's weird, because I always thought librarians in my local library where trying to present us with books that we'd want to read and would understand.
I so wish WOT had been picked up by AppleTV. Because we would be looking at 10 episodes, and as you pointed out, the production quality and VFX are so awesome on all of their shows I have watched.
Mark Hamill has been in multiple Ghibli movies and Christian Bale was the voice of Howl. I agree it would be great for professional VAs to get a chance at these big projects but using big name actors get's the movie more attention.
I don't think children should be introduced to books evolving heavily sexual themes whether lgbt or not. Kids shouldn't be reading about two people f*cking period 🙄
Unless The Algorithm shows you a lot from conservative social media, you may not be aware of the non-stop stream of absolutely gross and inappropriate content (outright pornographic, not raunchy prose) discovered in school libraries the last few years. It caused an entirely justified backlash, which as always happens, probably swung too far into over correction. But it was the opposite over correction that led to that disgusting stuff being in school libraries in the first place. It will all work itself out, as it always does.
Being aware of the tide of 'over-corrections' is really powerful to stay sane in the current political landscape, where activist-slanted framing is empowered in their respective echo-chambers.
Cradle does keep getting better and better Daniel! I was skeptical after the second book but I really did enjoy it more and more with every entry. I would also recommend the audiobooks. The narrator is so so so great and makes the story that much more fun!
I don’t support banning ANY books in schools but its worth pointing out that it isn’t just people on the right banning LGBTQ+ books. Schools have also removed books like To Kill a Mockingbird, Animal Farm, and 1984. It is wrong to ban books unless like you said, it is actually pornographic. But we can’t play the game of saying only one side is guilty when people on both sides have been guilty of banning books.
I think he said unless it's obviously pornographic it should not be banned which is a good stand. But i see in the Netherlands were they don't ban books from kindergarden schools which do contain pornographic content that's it's getting pretty bad, books aged form 4 and higher showing how blowjobs work is just wrong for that age but the dutch government is to woke to do anything about it. But the topic is so toxic that it seems to always go to extremen in one direction, or ban everything or ban nothing and both are not good at least for kids ages 4 to 13 i would say.
I'm glad they've gotten the look kinda right, though I don't really care if the characters look a little different so long as they nail the acting. To me, that's the most important thing!
I was under the impression that most if not all of the books being "banned" from public schools were either explicitly pornographic or aggressively bigoted. Am I wrong?
Will Wight's Cradle gets the buzz but he has two other series worth looking at. His debut Travelers Gate is a fun romp with a Sanderson meets Brent Weeks vibe (a trope twist plus action but not too grim dark), and he also has Elder Empire which is a double trilogy where each novel is the same story but told from another POV focus. Oh and one of the POV's is a ship captain with a Lovecraft Cthulu angle. So kind of your thing I think?
I will say this much. A high School student does not need to be protexted from books. People under 12 should enjoy their innocence from things like condoms and oral sex until they at least hit puberty. This goes for heterosexual sexual material and all other forms of sex. There is plenty of time for that later in life and prior to puberty children should not interract with sexual concepts. So non specifically I agree with you Daniel as long as we are not talking about explicit sexual content in the hands of children under 12. WE really dont need childten that age axting this out together because its a fad to do so. Which is exactly what it is becoming in some places.
This is more nuanced than most people think. As an example when I was younger in a rural area, I attended a K-12 school. In our library there was a section for "High School" in which there were books that explored ideas that were too socially advanced for ellementary kids. The number of booms "banned" Is really only Dr. Seus. There have been many books banned "in ellementary schools". They aren't the same thing.
I am so jaded by the two party system at this point. I typically lean conservative because I have some serious problem with the liberal approach to solving problems, but I’m sick of seeing people who are supposed to represent me calling out problems without proposing any solutions of their own. It seems like the left is the side of terrible ideas and the right is the side of stopping those terrible ideas at a time when we desperately need a good idea, and both sides jump at the opportunity to become tyrants when it fits their agenda. I don’t want to see sexually explicit content in school libraries, but I’m nowhere near stupid enough to believe that’s all people are banning, even if that’s mostly what comes up in conservative media. The fact that people saw fit to ban the Bible in retaliation when I can’t imagine anyone was getting it from the school library anyway would be funny if it didn’t paint such a poor picture of how far people have been pushed. It seems to me that most religious parents have no confidence in their ability to defend their positions to their children, and I figure that’s either a sign that you need to get a better grasp of your own religion or find a new one. I’m religious. I believe that marriage is a sacred ordinance that lasts for eternity, and brings us as close to godliness as we can get in this life. The divine laws around the power to bring a person into the world are nearly as consequential as the laws around pushing someone out of it. That said, I’m fully aware that that isn’t going to make any sense to someone who doesn’t share my worldview, so why would I start with that? Why would I demand that everyone adhere to that if I can’t make an argument as to why anyone else should live that way? And why would I target gay people when straight people who violate my grand ideals are so much more abundant? Honestly, the thought of the country falling to tyranny and the experiment being marked as a failure because the people have been conditioned to hate each other scares me a lot more than the thought of my future child asking me why some guys kiss each other. I’m so sick of all of this crap. Cultural differences are hard to reconcile. I don’t think any large group has managed it in human history, but it’d be nice to feel like the people up top were still trying.
I recommend continuing Cradle with the audiobooks, if you’re willing to. Travis Baldree (author and narrator for Legends and Lattes) adds so much to the series with his narration. That said, Lindon doesn’t really start becoming a player until Ghostwater which is Book 5, and I didn’t really get into them much until Book 4. They go quick, and are on KU, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have stuck with the series myself. Personally, I liked Cradle more than Last Horizon so far. Of course, LH hasn’t had the advantage of multiple books yet but just genre wise I’m not as invested. Cradle is American DBZ, whereas LH is sci-fantasy-er Avengers. The power scaling starts off super high from book 1, which is less enjoyable for me.
Haven’t lost me, thank you for speaking out! I was an elementary school teacher who put a huge emphasis on reading. Reading actual novels, not basal reader excerpts or worse “stories” crafted around spelling lists. I’ve been following the news on this for years, paying even more attention to it recently. When people find out I was a teacher it often comes up. The bad news is that these bigots base message is working. Over and over I have spoken to people who can’t believe I am for “porn” in schools. They honestly believe that the majority of books being banned are some paper version Debbie Does Dallas. When I say no, it is Anne Franke, biographies of Rosa Parks, books about the Holocaust and age appropriate books about the struggles of being LGBTQ+ people are surprised. At least a third of the books being banned I had in my 5th grade classroom. Probably the reason there aren’t more is because I haven’t taught in 18 years and many are more recently published. Some of my best discussions that students remember and mention to me even now were some of the most uncomfortable that had all of us reduced to tears. I don’t know if these 2 have been banned yet, but wouldn’t be surprised, are Faithful Elephants and Shin’s Tricycle about WWII in Japan. They are gut wrenching reads that sparked fantastic discussions immediately and for months after reading. The bans have had another effect. How books that are not banned are taught. I tutor my nephew who is in 10th grade. We just finished Animal Farm. Once at the beginning the teacher mentioned that it was an allegory of the Russian revolution. After that it was not brought up. The assignments were the most basic banal portions of the story. Who did or said what, order of events etc. No discussion of meaning, real life parallels, theme, author intent, comparing Animalism to Communism, nothing. I’ve seen this in previous books he’s read though this was the worst. I think teachers are afraid of any discussion. Last year we read Something Wicked This Way Comes. Again just basic facts. No discussion about good and evil, nothing about Bradbury’s use of language and description, friendship, father and son relationships. Just facts that could prove a student had read the chapter. My nephew has asked more than once why his teachers don’t talk about the things I do. I actually hope it is their fear of reprisals and not a lack of knowledge about the books. It’s no wonder students don’t want to read. Anything that sparks the imagination, thought, relevance to their lives and more has been stripped away.
I had pretty much negative interest in the Avatar live action show BUT after seeing the One Piece live action? Now, well, I honestly believe that maybe there’s a chance that this could work, too.
I can't see it being as good as One Piece but they might at least do a competent adaptation for the people who like Avatar. I'd say there's about one in ten of recent TV adaptations that were worth making but they do exist. Maybe there are more faithful ones than there used to be?
One series I'm thinking about from Scholastic with queer characters is Wings of Fire. I remember when the first queer protagonist was talked about, that a mother said she wouldn't let her daughter continue reading the series anymore. The insane part is that previous books to this already featured blatant queer characters, but as soon as they're the main focus it's suddenly not okay. I've got no clue what mental gymnastics the mom was going through, but the daughter was very sad about not being able to continue reading.
None of the so-called "bans" is preventing anyone from walking to their local Barnes & Noble or logging into Amazon and purchasing the book. I believe this is the argument that all the people currently bloviating about "book bans" used when those very same people were trying to get Huckleberry Finn and To Kill A Mockingbird banned not all that long ago.
but why should certain books be less accessible than others? most people aren't going to go to a bookstore for a book they know little to nothing about, let alone buy it from amazon, and they certainly won't randomly just find it on the shelf, find it interesting, and start reading it. these are the kind of things that happen at a library, especially a school library which is available at a place you frequent anyway, without having to take an additional trip. why should these channels be exclusive to books that conform to a bigoted ideology? the enemy cannot be both strong and weak at the same time, book bans cannot both matter and not matter. and they do matter, which is why it's important to do something about them and not just let bigots run rampant -- but if they didn't matter, the entire mechanism could be tossed out the window, couldn't it? after all, why expend so much effort on something inconsequential such as allowing people to request the removal of books?
Re: Banning books - I recognise the difficulty of the subject & that many of the people/orgs are just bigots, but at the same time there do seem to be rather explicit books that seem inappropriate for children being included in schools. You say your cut off is if they're actually pornographic, but that's such a difficult thing to define & even then doesn't immediately take into account the age appropriateness of the content. I recognise that term is also very difficult to define & will be subjective, but it is necessary. One of the examples doing the rounds is 'Gradad's pride', which is a picture book supposed to be for 4+, but it has a couple in fetishwear/bondage gear; it's not porn by any means, but does seem to be age inappropriate. So, I'm off to the side with the people who thing that banning books is generally wrong, but also recognise that there seem to be books that aren't appropriate for schools or for young children in general. It's not always a case of "not being able to handle the content", sometimes there's genuinely content that crosses the line & needs to be dealt with (without giving ammo to the bigots).
In my opinion (as a german) the only books that should be banned are those that specifically ask and encourage people to be violent and hateful to others. I feel like that is a line which should be drawn but I understand that the "freedom of speech" arguement is very important to US-folks. Thank you daniel for adressing this issue. I feel like those bans are the modern versions of a the burning book pile.
The issue I have is that these are not "bans" the way we think of the Nazis banning books. In the majority of these cases, books are being removed from elementary schools (kids age 5-11) because they're inappropriate for young children. The vast majority of these are due to pornographic or explicit sexual content. Many of these books are still available in high school libraries, public libraries, bookstores, and Amazon. Surely we can agree that actual "book banning" is terrible, but also there are certain books which shouldn't be in school libraries for young children?
If I could like more than once I would. Very well said. Daniel went over the top here. Parents have genuine concerns about the content they're exposed too while they're in the care of other people. Remember, school is mandatory. Parents get in trouble if they allow their kids a sick day. Parents have more rights over their children than a teacher does.
I'm so happy you talked about Markiplier's Iron Lung! He's an amazing creator and needs for more people to be aware that he does way more than just playing games.
My understanding was that parents wanted sexually explicit books kept out of elementary school libraries. Parents reading excerpts from the book out loud at school board meetings were told to stop due to the content. A parent not wanting their children exposed to that is not bigotry. I'm not hearing any call to ban them from public libraries or stop them from being published. Perhaps it is primarily LGBTQ+ authors being impacted by this because the majority of the questionable content is being written by those authors.
The book "And Tango makes Three" is banned, its based on a true story about two male penguins who lived in a zoo, they were very dependent on each other, anyway they started to incubate a rock which was then replaced with an egg, Tango was the chick that hatched and was raised. Pretty sure its not about sexual content. But also they're happy to ignore books about straight romance with sexual content in it.
OMG yes please continue with Cradle, I fell in love with the series a few months back and binged the whole series on audiobook within one month, it was brilliant.😍
5:19 I think this is a bit of a simplistic take, there are lots of things that aren’t explicitly pornographic which I would still want banned from a school library like Mein Kampf. Plus there’s definitely a spectrum of how risqué a book is before it becomes porn and different people are going to draw the line at different spots. You can be against 100% of the common proposed book bans while still acknowledging that there are edge cases where reasonable people can genuinely disagree on if something should be allowed.
Why would a school librarian buy Mein Kampf, indeed, who would they buy it from? It is not necessary for school children to read it, to understand the history of the Weimar Republic, through the Third Reich to the Nuremburg trials. I would be surprised if even many history students read it. (students being people found only in universities, not schools for people used to alternate English)
Does Will Wight pronounce his name "wit"? Because I've always thought it was pronounced "white." Also, I'd keep giving Cradle a go. I really enjoyed where the story went. I read his traveler's trilogy and it was a bit TOO anime for me. Haven't read his other series yet, though. Also, amen on the book banning bigots, brother.
"I also feel terrible for those of humble faith, who don't want their faith weaponized for bigotry, who have to sit down and watch people act like they're actually preaching Christian values, when they're trying to just be bigots. "...even if I disagree with something, I believe it should be available for open discussion and I'm actually willing to talk to my potential future kids about that." Thanks for expressing well what I've been trying to for a while. I see too much extremism regarding religious people--not many people acknowledge the existence of those who genuinely live their faith / religious principles and are good to other people. I see a lot of good faithful people get unfairly pinned as being dogmatic bigots. And yes, don't hide the world from your children. Raise them to listen to people and critically think.
Hey Daniel! I'm going through Ryan Cahill's The Bound and the Broken Series right now and WOW!! I wasn't expecting it to be so good, I think you might really like it
(Small nitpick) I can't find anything below, but I think someone messed up. It is Will Wight's "Last Horizon" series. As for the Cradle series, if you haven't been grabbed by book one or two, then set it down and go for "The Captain" it might be more your bag. I LOVE the series and it gets insane by the end, but if you aren't getting grabbed by book three, set it down. Might not be your thing. Book Banning: HECK YESSSS! LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK! And, once again, thank you for the support for helping indie writers find a bit more of an audience.
Cradle is something you'll really enjoy after becoming a shonen anime nerd. And like Dresden the series only really kicks off after the first 3 books. So i would really reccomend you reach book 5. They're really quick reads. If you don't love it after that, then it's not for you
Can anyone explain or give source for why Daniel started shouting bigots in the middle of fantasy news... I am looking for book bans but what I found are 6 months to a year old news... Without context, that scene feels so out of place.
The Miami times did a story a few days ago that contains this line "According to the report, public school districts in the Sunshine State logged a whopping 1,406 book bans during the 2022-2023 school year". It could be that, but honestly book banning is as common as mass shootings in the US so it's hard to know which of the many incidents floated to the top of the public consciousness.
The librarian at my old school was perfectly able of labeling books by genre and age(YA/Adult), why can't they just require something like that? Ohhhhh because they dont have real reasoning and if they did straight books have done worse?
Book bands should only happen when there is sexual content that's inappropriate for the age group. Basically, elementary school students shouldn't be learning about sex before they are ready .Whether it's gay or strait.
I think you are right, but unfortunately people try to say a character being non traditional is pushing sexuality to keep their children from being exposed at all.
I agree, but often people associate two people of same sex kissing in the books or even two male penguins rising an egg together with sex, because it's gay and gay is explicitly sexual to them
@@breem2999 First, school libraries are open to all the kids in the school. Second, a book or graphic novel depicting sex isn't the same as a sex ed class.
Daniel, I am so impressed by your scholarship! How do you find time to read all these books and view all fantasy/scifi series? As for me, it took a full year to read The Lord of the Rings, six months to read Dune, and four months to read Bram Stokers Dracula. I read at a staggering slow pace and get distracted easily. Reading LOTR to me was comparable to climbing Mt Everest. I sometimes have to reread and reread again for comprehension. So I'm glad when books are adapted to screen so i can get a taste of popular books like Foundation, Wheel of Time, His Dark Materials, Shadow and Bone. But I'm not ignorant, i have a BS in Mathematics and an .MS in Civil Engineering. I'm glad I found your UA-cam channel so I can get a glimpse of popular fantasy and scifi. (I agree totally with your book burning sentiments. ) I'm into cosplay. I have a Hobbit costume and have been to two DragonCons and two San Diego ComicCons.
look into either audiobooks or something like spreeder that can help you read much faster. They even have apps that are specifically able to help people who are dyslexic.
@@Booksaremysolace 100%. Honestly I don't think it gets like 'really really good' until book five or so. But YES, it 100% gets better. Unsouled is very much the weak point
Azula in that shot looked a little bit uncanny valley to me but I’m chalking that up to lighting. The design and particularly costuming looks really good so far though.
When it comes to book banning I agree that the government, or really any people of power, want others to be easily manipulated and in order to do so they have to get rid of any material that educates others. Also gives people a chance to analyse works in depth. I watched a video where there were 4th or 5th graders (I think) showing what they are reading and they were frustrated that they are being given child level books.
I remember having that frustration. I went to a private school in elementary, my father didn't let me skip grades. So in my last 3 years there I basically had an unspoken agreement with the teachers I could just go to the library when my work was done. Thankfully the library was pretty good overall, however many times when forced to read a book for class my biggest issue was it felt way to basic and boring.
There was a whole book ban thing happening in my town and at first, I was very against the ban, but then it turns out the book in question in the kids section of the public library was explicitly pornographic, showing explicit sex acts in it. 😬😳
Please keep reading Cradle. The first couple books are interesting, but it really takes off after book 5. It's not a huge investment of time, they are pretty short. You will thank yourself later. It's not like asking someone to read, say, "Gardens of the Moon" and trust that it gets better. :D
"Oh Harry don't you see?" Hermione breathed. "If she (Umbridge) could have done one thing to make absolutely sure that every single person in this school will read your interview, it was banning it!" - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (pg. 582) J.K. Rowling. Loved your words Dan and thank you for advocating open discussion for all genres and communities. Being a person of faith, I want to take my daughter straight to the banned book section at our local B&N (once she's old enough) and encourage her to dive right in. While I might be opposed to another author's perspective, learning to respect their view and value their opinion is key.
Christopher Hitchens once pointed out in an interview the benefits of children ridding themselves of the “burdens of innocence”. He mentioned most children he met were far smarter and better informed than he was at their age, and his own son asked him questions he wouldn’t have even thought, let alone dared, to voice to his own father as a child.
Thanks for the spotlight, Daniel! Love the gravitas you inserted into the reading 😄 Oh, and Gunmetal Gods is incredible. Can't wait to get my hands on the special edition
Really hate how streaming have evolved, i been going full physical latelly or at least all i can, books, games, movies, comic, manga, anime, etc. A couple years ago Steam make me realice how little control i have over """my""" digital library. I cancel my Netflix when all the companies run away to make their own bllsht app.
So… not just lgbtq+, but also Anne Frank. And Toni Morison. And Kindred, by Octavia Butler has been banned. I am a Christian. And consider what is happening an idolization of my faith. Sacrilige really, unironically.
Hmm..didn't know learning about genitalia and getting blow jobs/oral sex in elementary/middle school wasn't pornographic. And I'm agnostic...so has nothing to do with religion. And it's not a "ban" if you can get the book outside of the school. Religious texts aren't in these schools either....not sure where you get this information...
Yup it’s pure gaslighting of parents not into trans ideolog. Although some schools are just banning books for having gay things, what you said is true there are genuine concerns.
Iron Lung is my best friend’s husband’s game!!! I was so excited to see this in your news!! I have been a big fan of yours for a couple of years and it was super fun to see their game/movie in your news! Also, thanks for your comments about book banning. As a school librarian, it’s a really hard issue right now and incredibly frustrating.
I’d like to give a middle ground perspective on the Book Ban thing. Is the practice of banning books bad? Absolutely, no question. Are LGBTQ authors bad people? No. However, there have been *multiple* school counsel meetings with parents where their kids got an lgbtq book from the school library *and* it has explicit sex scenes in them. While I don’t think it’s bad to share lgbtq experiences, having books be on the shelves with explicit sex scenes is something no child should have access to. So while a lot of the books bans may be on lgbtq authors, the bad apples in the batch are ruining the space for authors who just want to tell wholesome stories. So in that sense, I understand why the book bans are a thing. Any other book ban stuff (especially with public libraries) I don’t understand.
This is a nuanced issue. I'd like to add my two cents. In my experience, when characters in a book are depicted as queer, there's usually a focus on romance and sex in the story. Now this may or may not be a good thing depending on people's preferences and it definitely isn't the case in every book but it's a theme that occurs more often than not. Heterocentric stories have been around WAY longer, therefore have a lot more variety in the way relationships are written. The solution to this problem isn't banning all LGBTQ books imo but I understand why school and parents are so up in arms about this issue.
Hi Daniel! Before I respond to your request regarding Will Wight, I would just like to preface by stating that I have only completed the first 4 books in the Cradle series, for your consideration. That said, from my limited exposure to Cradle I can say that I feel the Will Wight-iverse is very similar to the Cosmere in that the more of his books you read before moving on to the next, the more you get out of it. Both the Elder Empire series (Sea and Shadow) and The Traveler's Gate Trilogy made me appreciate what I've read of Cradle so much more, and I'm certain that The Last Horizon would likely add even more to that mythos (though admittedly I haven't gotten around to that series yet, but I'm hopeful), since Cradle is essentially the Rhoshar of that interconnected universe. I hope that helps with your dilemma!
Daniel, read some of the books they're banning, some of them instruct kids on how to get on grinder and find older men. If you had kids you'd care. In saying that, changing the words to Rahl Dahl's books is insanity. surely we can find a middle ground. . . like no sex stuff for kids. . .
That passage was taken out of context. It is followed by testimonials about dating apps from multiple people, including people strongly encouraging the readers to stay away from those sorts of apps because they're dangerous. Giving people all the information and allowing them to make an informed decision is _not_ the same as teaching them how to do things.
I was so frustrated with not being able to find Malazan in hardcover that i bought softcovers, stripped them, digitized them, prepared for print and then had them handmade by a professional bookbinder into luxurious, clothbound one-of-a-kind edition. 4 volumes ready and they look BE-A-UTIFUL, the remaining 6 will be completed before X-mas. AND NOW I LEARN THER'S GONNA BE ANOTHER DELUXE EDITION. Damn.
I managed to find all of them through Abebooks - some were library copies so had stamps on the endpapers, which I didn’t mind. They can get quite pricey and it took me months to get them all … and the first three are a smaller format because for some reason they were not published as regular sized hardbacks? 😅
Reading through the comments it’s clear no one here has had a conversation with a conservative person. Arguments sure but never a conversation. Also you have a right to your opinions but for the love of everything stop putting people in groups and categories and then using that as a basis of judgement.
@@anthonycotto9251 nothing in life, politics, or society will ever get better until we stop holding those perceived as enemies to a higher standard but instead hold ourselves to a higher standard
I watch Daniel because I like to keep up with what is happening in the fantasy/science fiction world. Well, that and Daniel seems sane. I don't feel like taking a shower to cleanse my mind from madness of the crowds. Then with this book banning he says, "Form sides. Pick up your guns. take aim, and shoot." The world has lost its mind. Everyone hates everyone else, and we are all waiting for trigger to slaughter each other. Often privilege and education doesn't bring about wiser minds and rational thought, but in Daniels case I thought it had. Nope. What's wrong with the world is, everyone is sure they are the good guys being persecuted by evil people. Both sides think this, and both sides can't be right. I know what I'm saying is useless, but everyone should just stop. Take a deep breath. The person you see as the evil enemy is just someone doing what they believe is morally right. Be they wrong or right, they are human beings. Please believe me. The person you see as monster, isn't. Seeing they person as a monster, brings out monstrous behavior in us. Just step back and take a breath. All you have to lose is the insanity.
The tolerance paradox: If a society is totally tolerant, then it must also tolerate those who do not tolerate others. Thus the intolerate nd hateful are allowed to flourish whilst those who wish for peace and harmony are forced to cower in fear. I don't advocate for picking up guns and forming sides. I advocate for defending your identity: the only thing they can't take away from you unless you let them.
I agree. My personal belief is the intolerant must be met with intolerance. Those who choose violence, must be stopped with any means possible. The problem is, it's not working. I'm watch the tragic happenings in Israel. I don't mean to smear Daniel. Honestly, it's a personal failure. I'm powerless and have no effect in world affairs, yet everyone around me is altered. Everyone is becoming extremist. I have no idea what to do with the people in my life, except remove them from my life. There has to be something better. I'm honestly sorry I blamed Daniel for anything. @@admiralepic1357
I got a message from Netflix claiming they would be raising the price by another $2 a month and i was like..that’s it..I’m done. I can’t share my account..they want to include adds..and they are raising the cost? And to hear you say they are making even more money with new subscribers makes me even more glad I cancelled. I’m so sick of corporate greed
Thank you for your support, Daniel! Being in book spaces has been hard recently because the bringing up of book bans (particularly when they pertain to books featuring queer people, discrimination, etc) always brings the worst kinds of people out of the woodwork. It has been exhausting to deal with.
I am going to try not to be that annoying guy with this, but this is now the third time I have called out the mispronunciation of Will Wight’s name. This seems to stem from your first video covering his work. His last name has a G not a C. The font used on the cover is not the best for making that distinction. And I can see how dyslexia could make that even harder to do. Out of respect for the author I will continue to post the correction each time you pronounce the name like WiCcckcKht (trying to show the emphasis you enjoy throwing on the hard C sound) instead if the proper pronunciation which sounds like white. Respectfully.
Daniel, when you sign the final book please do something slightly different with the last signature so that the person who gets that copy knows it was the final one to sign! That would be cool
Well, following your own opinion then, it is ok to ban these books. Haven't you read them? they do contain pornographic material in them. I invite you to read them yourself.
While I completely agree with the book ban rant as it is directed towards the most extreme and hateful proponents of that side of the discussion, there is a lot of complexity and nuance lost with generalizing an entire side of an argument based on a specific subsect of that group. There are perfectly reasonable, non-transphobic, non-homophobic, and non-hateful discussions that can be had about the issue. Is there an age appropriate level for children to learn about LGBT issues? What are the boundaries for any (traditional or LGBT) romance (physical, emotional,…) in books marketed to children? What is the proper role of public schools as a vehicle for dissemination of these materials? You may think it’s perfectly fine for your kid to read and have access to that material. You’re the parent. You are making a controlled parental decision to allow your kid access to that in a way that you are still there to help provide context and understanding. You lose that if a kid can access that stuff without you being able to help them navigate through it. And this not only extends to romance and LGBT issues. I’m very particular about the levels of violence my kid watches based on his maturity, ability to contextualize, and other behavioral elements. I would be concerned as well if he had access to violent media at school without my knowledge or ability to control or contextualize for him. What about educational material that is overly inflammatory, lacking alternate perspectives, or even disproven by experts in the field (The Bell Curve, 1619 Project, a children’s book about the Israel-Palestinian conflict but with an extreme bias to one side)? While I absolutely agree with Daniel here when it comes to directing anger and frustration at hateful intent, that should not be a cudgel to prevent any honest discussion about the role of public schools, parental consent, and children’s access to sensitive material.
I’m sorry, but the fact that you think the 1619 project is inflammatory tells me enough to ignore the rest of your rant. Many kids will experiment with sex by middle school age. Having books that will educate them as to what is safe and what is not, how to tell when they are being victimized is extremely helpful. You are sending kids to school because you want experts to teach them. Experts should decide what is appropriate and what is not.
@@disembodiedvoicek the veracity of the 1619 project has been called into question for cherry picking evidence by many peer reviewers and even by the historian contributors to it. You can look up the article where he calls it out. Sorry. You have to do your research there.
@@disembodiedvoicek but it seems like you just want to shut down having a discussion here because I called out 1 specific thing. I could have a legitimate conversation with you without any hate, or transphobia, or homophobia. I don’t even have to agree with your points and you may have some good ones. The point is that it is a conversation that we can and should have without trying to shut it down for baseless reasons like assuming I feel a certain way or align myself with a specific agenda. And the comment about inflammatory was more in line with The Bell Curve and the Israel-Palestine examples. The 1619 project was much more about ones that have been disproven.
Love watching your channel. I was wondering if you have read the Black Company Series by Glen Cook yet. I looked through your video and it doesn't look like you have. It is my favorite series and was really curious on your thoughts. Thank you...
Several of the books that people have freaked out about have been explicitly pornographic. Stop saying people who just want to protect kids are bigots Jesus Christ no one cares that gay people exist but what is the obsession with teaching kids about gay sex or any sex what so ever. No romance should exist in any books found in elementary or middle school libraries. High school is when kids should be introduced to these concepts anything younger then that the burden falls on the parents.
Oh, for goodness' sake. From the link: "Scholastic, an educational company that publishes and distributes books for children and young adults, created a separate collection for its more diverse titles, allowing schools to opt in or out, or limit, their inclusion in elementary school fairs." How is that "banning"? Limiting what children are exposed to (and IN SCHOOL) is not "book banning." There's all kinds of material that we know is not appropriate for children, according to their ages. When did this become controversial? Should elementary school kids, especially younger ones, learn the basic facts about the Holocaust, wars in general, slavery, etc.? Sure. But in ways appropriate to their ages. A general statement is one thing. A graphic, detailed explanation with photos, or a video is something else. Common sense, people! Then there are things children should not be exposed to at all. (Or, at least, not in schools. We can't control what parents choose to do.) That includes books featuring sexual deviancy The fact that this is now "controversial" is both ridiculous and horrifying. Again, this is not "book banning." Adults can find whatever books they want.
Parents have a right and are responsible for what their kids are subjected to or consume, they are the first line of defense. Do i agree with book burning or banning? Not particularly, do i think parents have a right to subject their children to things they find age appropriate? Absolutely. I love this channel man but you have to remember that the world isnt one size fits all and that includes people who might be more conservative or reserved.
I think you have done first two books in Cradle. Try the third one, that’s the first major quality jump imo. Book 5 is one of the best, but I’d say try book 3, and see if that works. If not then I’d say this series isn’t really for you.
Fairly poor, non contextualized, non nuanced take on your book banning rant, sorry... but you said, if it's clearly pornographic, then yes, they shouldn't be there... But that's exactly what is going on. If you look at the details, the books are being removed from Elementary and Middle School and NOT High Schools. Once you get beyond Progressive talking points (being used in an ideological war) - All that is being asked is that we do age-appropriate education. The idea that 'Those People' (which btw, you seriously need to adjust that kind of language) absorbed and consumed hetero-sexual content in books is so far from the truth it's funny. Where do you think ratings systems came from? Tipper Gore wasn't on a crusade against LGBTQ+ content in the 80s, it was hetero content, be real, understand and know history. BTW, just as a note, you said, Christian, what I think you meant to say is Christian and Muslim - did you do that on purpose? Or was that, again, just your youthful experience coming into play. Let's not forget which communities are fighting the hardest against this kind of things in schools (I'll give you a hint, it's the one you forgot to say). My wife has been a PTA president in 3 different states, at every level (elementary, Middle and high school) - The Scholastic Book program has been dying for a very long time - it has more to do with how we absorb media these days. The younger a kid gets a device, the earlier they stop having physical books. This controversy you reference is because scholastic did the reasonable thing, it allowed local communities to opt-out of receiving certain kinds of books (particularly because of laws in those states), books they don't think are appropriate at the age-level they are being promoted for. So, if your local community wants them you get them, if they don't - they don't - it's how our Republic is supposed to work. Kids and parents who want that content, can get it anytime they want, Amazon will deliver it next day or you can just run down to the local library and get it... the funny thing is that the books aren't 'banned' they are just not available as part their civic education provided by government agents (based on age-appropriateness). Restrictions of what those agents can and can't do has been a long-standing part of our legal system. Still love the channel - everyone is entitled to their opinion - Keep up the great content!
@@maluse227nope he was right to raise it, many people do it. Call out Christianity but scared to do it for Islam, cause they think ‘ow they think I’m bad" double standards, especially in the UK where teachers have had to go into hiding due to death threats from Muslims
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people things they do not want to hear." - George Orwell
Yeah, and this notion/belief is the moral/logical grounds conservatives use to justify extreme actions and beliefs. If there's any author conservatives try to twist to sound righteous its Orwell. The problem lies in repeated and extreme political ideology translating into real life behavior and actions that go on and influence other actions and etc. Its intellectually lazy at least, and consciously deceitful at worst to really say/imply "oh words are just words" and "they dont have any influence or wind up making a difference in society and its actions, you're actually bad and a hypocrite for thinking so and you must hate freedom and liberty, why are you so unamerican". That kind if centrist logic/dialogue tree is getting more and more facetious and dishonest as time goes on, and its fucking sad.
@no_problem8023 The amount of times I've heard Conservatives try to say Orwell was right-wing anti-communist. Leaving aside the fact that American and British politics are VERY different, he was anti-authoritarian and also a socialist.
Animal Farm was a critique of Stalin, etc.
@@no_problem8023 Yeah, it's not that words have no impact, it's that adults recognise that the world isn't perfect. Just because something causes harm doesn't mean you get to remove it. Sometimes, that harm is necessary. We need to be able to speak our minds or democracy cannot function.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither." - Benjamin Franklin.
It's like how helicopter parenting, despite probably causing the child to be more likely to make it to adulthood, is very detrimental to the child's development into a healthy adult. Children need to be able to make mistakes and learn from them.
If you want peace, cultivate justice - ILO.
@@Iris_1217 stalin is communist lol
I personally hate book banning for pretty much any reason but I can see a school board banning for three not just one reason.
1. As you said, pure pornography.
2. A book which presents itself as a factual account of an event but turns out to be filled with lies.
3. A book which advocates violence.
Outside a school setting I wouldn't ban for any of those reasons, however uncomfortable the second and third might make me personally.
Ah, finally, a balanced take
Which is pretty much what is happening. That said, I am also sure books that don't do this are getting caught up in this mess
The thing is, that's pretty much what's happening.
If Daniel wants to make an argument that "there are all these sexually inappropriate content straight relationship books they aren't removing"...that I can get behind. Remove those for kids too. Inappropriate content, whether it's LGBT or straight, doesn't belong in an environment where a child can access it without their parent's consent. And they actually are removing sexually explicit straight content books as well...the media just doesn't mention it. But I can tell you first hand as someone who works in the public library system and has had these books in my hands...in no way shape or form do the books they are restricting belong in the eyes of kids, and even my gay parents agree 100% and were utterly appalled at the content in some of these books. From my experience with what we circulate and curate, and having been in these meetings with parents and religious leaders regarding content and access, none of them are against books that contain LGBT characters in them providing the content is age appropriate. To me that's where the gaslighting frustrates me. Daniel doesn't tell you (maybe he doesn't know) that most of these groups/parents pushing for bans on inappropriate content are ALSO targeting plenty of books with straight relationships.
If they are restricting books simply because there are LGBT characters or relationships (appropriate relationships) in them, then that's a different story, and that's a problem. But from what I can tell with what we circulate and curate, and having been in these meetings with parents and religious leaders regarding content and access, none of them are against books that contain LGBT characters in them providing the content is age appropriate.
Also, these books are not banned and any parent and any time can order them on Amazon or buy them at a book store. That's not a ban. A ban is how they completely removed Dr. Seuss books from publication and circulation and you can no longer purchase them anywhere.
It’s only in school, not nation-wide banning which would be much different imo. I agree with your 3 points, I also think banning religious books should be applied evenly. If you’re gonna do it for one, do it for all y’know.
The reason it seems LGBT authors seem to be being targeted is because they are so much more likely to involve explicit sexual content in their books. The LGBT lobby is extremely sexually liberal; of course it doesn’t mean every book is gonna have sex in it but it’s like saying heavily religious authors are gonna be more likely to put religious messages in their books lol.
The way I see it, schools already censor so much when it comes to other things like drugs and murder, even hunting, but when it comes to literal step-by-step sex instruction for kids some people get so mad that parents don’t want that shit being available to their kids 😅
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Expecting Greene, or anyone on his side of the isle to be honest about what's going on is too optimistic, friend. But you're correct. The removal of those Seuss books and the UK sensitivity edits of Dahl were much more sweeping and dangerous precedent than this.
Person of faith here (still working on humble). Absolute yes to your full chest, book bans speech! I grew up in a religious school, and I can name dozens of scholarly teachers there that would agree with you. Let the books exist. They taught me in those religious classrooms that each person must chose their faith, not ignorant of other opinions, but fully aware and loving the opposition. Keep talking, Sir. You are not alone.
Yeah I think the reaction against book banning is a good one since ideas should be challenged, not banned, but where it misses the mark is on books that illustrate sex acts for kids like "Let's talk about it", "Gender Queer", "Its perfectly normal" etc.
@@TheRoarkthis is where there is legitimate nuance to the conversation that is lost. We should be able to have legitimate conversations about sensitive material like that. The fact that there are hateful actors in the mix shouldn’t prevent us from having those discussions. Schools have to get express consent to show movies to class based on certain sensitive content that has led to an R or even PG-13 rating. It’s clear that there is material that should not be available for certain age groups.
@TheRoark person of faith here. I literally only protest the books that are just outright pornographic. They're horrendous and honestly just harmful for the LGBTQ+ community because it sets a bad example for what these people are actually like. I wouldn't let my kid read about straight sex and I won't let them read about homosexual sex either. It's the sex part that bothers me, not the gay part.
I think that calling what is happening "book banning" is intellectually dishonest. No one is banning books, however they are removing them from the youngest children's sections if they are sexually explicit, why would anyone be against that? The books are still available everywhere else and they are not being banned from reading them outside of the children's section.
@@johnv3788 Removing ANY mention of a minority group from literature is utter ridiculousness, no matter what age group. Daniel already gave the caveat that sexually explicit material was obviously inappropriate for children as they can not consent. But banning a book that simply mentions a character with two dads or two moms, written with the express purpose of helping kids to not be cruel or otherwise prejudiced, in an attempt to emotionally segregate an entire group of people , is disgusting.
They banned freaking ANNE FRANK! Why? That's a diary of a 13 year old Jewish girl hiding in WWII. It has so much historic value, with the bonus of being very readable by teenage children.
I mean... because they're Nazis? It makes them look kind of bad. But yes, I suppose your question is, how can Nazis exist and be able to ban books in this day and age? And the answer probably has something to do with denying children reading material for decades so they can be indoctrinated into racism, misogyny and the like. :(
Actually they didn’t the diary of Anne frank was school approved the teacher that was fired because she read Anne franks diary which is a graphic unabridged version that contains sexually explicit material but that doesn’t make as good of a headline I guess
@@snakebagel9729 The graphic novel is approved by the Anne Frank foundation and does not contain any sexually explicit material.
@@perteadsf4914 ok so you haven’t read it that’s fine but maybe just google it then you wouldn’t say things that are untrue
We read Anne Frank in 8th grade. 1983. No one lost their mind. It saddens me how our schools are falling and failing our children.
5:48 With book banning being as hot button as it is I feel it's incredibly important to specify _which_ books have been banned and why. There are some books that are straight up porn, or contain sexual themes that no child should be exposed to, but there's also historically significant texts being removed. Using the generalization of 'LGBTQ authors' just continues to pour gas on this dumpster fire.
Yes people cry outrage at our ‘lgbt rights’ without actually looking into it and seeing the concerning content in the books that were banned.
Ppl on the left were banning Dr Seuss and other books from school libraries and parents dont want pictures of teens giving BJs and discussing sexual acts in middle school libraries. I dont like the implication that you’re a bigot and a liar according to Daniel if you dont like that. Im not unsubscribing tho. I enjoy his content and you are very correct; context is important.
I really like what our school does. we have a rating system and you can set limits on what your kid can check out. so if you have personal beliefs that make you not want your kid to read it fine, but its still there and available for my kid
That's a good idea, especially for a school library that serves students with vastly different ages.
I keep saying, what we as Christian are to ONLY keep ourselves accountable to OUR rules. To all others, we love them as Jesus loved them. Keep it out of policy that effects more than just us!!!
Great, but that isn't the issue. As a atheist giving elementary schools books explaining how one boy can can give head to another boy or how to play with yourself. That isn't even close to age appropriate. I mean good god do your recall porn mags in public schools?
I say this constantly. I wish more people heard it and actually absorbed this statement. Jesus's MOST IMPORTANT LESSON was to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR. Not love your neighbor UNLESS they're gay, or UNLESS they don't share your faith. Love. Your. Neighbor. That is what Christianity is to me. Being a good person and loving people for who they are, regardless of choices. What these people are doing is horse shit and needs to be stopped.
@@Zfullz Pretty sure jesus would be yelling WTF when a book about giving a blow job is given to an 8 yearold. Might want to look up why this debate is happening, because if was a book about a teaching a boy how to lick a clit... Yeah, it would still be a problem
@@Mustradamus FFS that isn't why these books are being banned, The more you guys pretend it is, the more you tie LGBT to this groomer crap that is in the books. Really look this up
Put a sticker on it: Parental Advisory: Explicit Content!
Thats it. Nothing needed to be banned.
With book banning, kids are ready to read about certain things at different points in their lives. I read A Time To Kill when I was almost 15, but another kid that same age might not be ready for that. If a parent doesn't think their kid is ready to read about a subject, they are still able to exempt their child from having to read the book.
What do you mean "having"? All of the books being banned are just regularly available in libraries, not part of the curriculum. I say all, but the books being banned as part of the curriculum are even more worrying, because they're usually history textbooks that these monsters want to replace with censored revisionist lies.
I agree with about 50% of your book banning statement. Where you go wrong is you give zero examples. Where as, those objecting to certain books have given examples, and those examples have to be censored on the news because they are too graphic, and they are being read by “children” in elementary schools. The books are not being “banned”. They are just not allowed in schools with very young children. Now, I could be wrong, it wouldn’t be the first time, but your general statement that they’re all basically being homophobic, given with zero examples, turns what could’ve been a logical argument into empty, feel good, left wing propaganda.
Some Christian groups can get carried away. I can’t speak for them. So, I’ll give you an example from my point of view: “The Earth’s Children” series (Clan of the Cave Bear) is a great book series (or at least it started out that way), but it should not be allowed in elementary schools.
And no, you have not lost a subscriber.
Dear god Gunmetal Gods special edition looks STUNNING. And thank you for the kind words, Dan! I'll do my best to make sure Felix unleash his best on the Malazan cover art! 😃
Need to see more of the art!
Oh hey it’s Petrik! Hi!
Ghostwater is where cradle really started to be great for me. I'd stick with it.
That's the one I just finished and I do feel like the series gets better in sets of 2. :) at least so far.
The question I have is: Is it worth getting into knowing that? It sounds like a pretty consistent opinion of the series from what I've seen. I have a huge backlog of media, so I have a habit of dropping if the beginning isn't promising. Books I'm a little more forgiving for, but I was thinking about how to revisit that approach.
That being said, I've read Unsouled, and felt like it had a lot of potential, but fell a little short of what it wanted to be. I'll be giving book 2 a try soon, though.
It's a valid question. I would add two things to help. 1. The books are short. 2. If you don't like progression fantasy, don't read them. :)
A little each way. Your call ultimately. I'm personally happy I started, but that's just me.
@@user-pv1qk4so6s The series is rather easy to read and gets absolutely bingeable later on. Personally I'd recommend deciding after book three, that's the first one I'd consider "good" instead of just "decent".
I agree. I went from not really caring about the first three books to putting this series in my top 10 of all time.
No thoughts or ways of thinking should be banned from public view entirely, ever. However schools have always separated sections based on what was appropriate for the different grades.
If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available for purchase" 100% agree they need to shut up.
If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available to any kid in school", show me the book and, as Daniel pointed out, if it doesn't contain graphic content 100% agree they need to shut up.
If people are saying "X book shouldn't be available to grades under Y", That's something that deserves debate and should be looked at and discussed.
If you are referring to the books that people had a kid get from school and then the school board told them they were not allowed to read from during a public meeting because it was too graphic....well...the school board should agree anything not appropriate for public discussion is not appropriate, period. (And yes I'm aware that some parent's got books that weren't actually available at school and were told to stop, I have issues with those people as well. Don't be dishonest.)
Yeah i want to know what books are being "banned". I feel like its all just political hype. As far as i know, no books were banned..firstly not letting a book into school isnt even a ban, the book is still accessible in other ways. But more importantly all the books ive heard of being "banned" were only not allowed in public grade schools, and seemed highly inappropriate for young readers. So i think its appropriate. But id like to know what books are being banned from public schools that would be safe and normal to read outside in public, and I'll be on board against those "bans"
(btw i was upset that they didn't allow "Mause" in schools for high school but i do understand why theyd have a problem it has a few graphic images, not intended to illicit excitement ofcourse but nevertheless, it's a hard line to draw. Id have allowed it in high school but im from a more liberal area than where that high school was from and those people. i don't think it was fair to bash them either on retrospect.
@@MasterMote “Mause” is a good example of a book that should be discussed by various school boards openly with parents before deciding one way or the other. I feel like some areas would say “not appropriate for school” and other areas would say “only appropriate for specific grades.” I think there are probably even some conservative areas that might feel like it should be available for seniors in the school library for example. As long as things on the line like that are discussed openly I think most people wouldn’t freak out as bad over the decision made.
@@tylergoza Also its dishonest cuz hes making it seem like its the establishment..the only times the "establishment" bans a book at school is when the parents want that book banned. Respect parents, period. Speaking as a parent i realize this is what bothers me most. No one will ever love or care for or make efforts to raise my kids as much as me, naturally. That's how it is with all parents. So i think its disgusting to undermine parents in how they want to raise their kids.
The think I find the most odd about all the book ban stuff is that school libraries have finite space. The truly pornographic stuff isn't going to get on a shelf because schools are going to fill the shelves with stuff that is more beneficial for the students. Many of the books that are being pushed for bans will now be added to the shelves because they've been brought to the attention of the schools that don't have bans.
That Gunmetal Gods Ultimate Edition is good looking. I enjoyed the first book and should continue the series.
The truly pornographic stuff *has been* making it's way onto shelves and that's why their banning it. The real question is which adults are responsible for intentionally putting gay porn in front of the eyes of children when it wouldn't normally be there if the shelves were being filled with books that were beneficial to kids?
@@theskyisteal8346- Be careful that you don’t fall for the hype that meeting on the right wing side want to rile you up with to make you believe that the left are big bad bogeyman. Each side loves to play with wedge issues, but most of this is just hype or BS. And just because you see multiple people saying the same thing doesn’t mean much. Usually they’re getting it from the same source and just regurgitating what they’ve heard.
For what it's worth, Christian Bale provided the English voice for Howl (and since the book version was meant to be from Wales, that was a thing too) and Mark Hamill did a voice in Castle In the Sky. There's often been celebrities doing the English voices in Ghibli films, including Timothy Dalton, Kirsten Dunst, Tom Holland, and Sir Patrick Stewart.
Always thought the Christian Bale as Howl thing was so weird. Like, yes, he’s Welsh, but he does an American accent so what was the point? 😂 His voice totally doesn’t match the character anyway, imo 🤷♀️
Howls was the first and only English Ghibli dub I have ever liked, and even then it lacks the punch of the Japanese dialogue in far too many places.
IMHO if the dub isn't going to be done by the OG director it shouldn't be done at all.
While Patrick Stewart clearly tried his best, his VO work for Nausicaa shows that those responsible for directing the English dub didn't get the character of Lord Yupa at all.
It's pretty much the same thing for the few English adaptations of anime films I have seen so far.
They westernise everything (including acting style) until all the original flow of the story is just flat and lifeless.
Didn't Liam neeson do ponyo's dad also?
Gillian Anderson (X-Files) was the voice of Mother Wolf in Princess Monoke
@@Bish186 And Cate Blanchett was her mum.
I am a school librarian having to deal with this crap. It's awful. You nailed it on the head that nothing short of pure pornography (and I would add texts and preachings of terrorist groups, etc.) should be banned from a school library. The lack of faith in librarians astounds me as our power is taken and given to politicians. Disgusting.
Really? We live in a culture where teachers on Tik Tok talk about coming out as gay or non-binary to their kindergarten or first grade classes. You think that just because you do your job as a librarian properly that all librarians behave the same?
It's crazy, and librarians are heroes. Thanks for your service. Anyone would think you were being given funds for some new books and immediately going out to buy Morning Glory Milk Farm or something.
It's weird, because I always thought librarians in my local library where trying to present us with books that we'd want to read and would understand.
I so wish WOT had been picked up by AppleTV. Because we would be looking at 10 episodes, and as you pointed out, the production quality and VFX are so awesome on all of their shows I have watched.
WOT book fans that don’t use apple:
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Personally think it woulda been cool if more dedicated professional voice actors got to be in these ghibli movies
Mark Hamill is a god-tier VA, but I don't know about the rest.
@@spookworm2671 yes there is one person who has spent a lot of their career as a VA here, you're correct
Mark Hamill has been in multiple Ghibli movies and Christian Bale was the voice of Howl. I agree it would be great for professional VAs to get a chance at these big projects but using big name actors get's the movie more attention.
I don't think children should be introduced to books evolving heavily sexual themes whether lgbt or not. Kids shouldn't be reading about two people f*cking period 🙄
Unless The Algorithm shows you a lot from conservative social media, you may not be aware of the non-stop stream of absolutely gross and inappropriate content (outright pornographic, not raunchy prose) discovered in school libraries the last few years.
It caused an entirely justified backlash, which as always happens, probably swung too far into over correction. But it was the opposite over correction that led to that disgusting stuff being in school libraries in the first place.
It will all work itself out, as it always does.
Being aware of the tide of 'over-corrections' is really powerful to stay sane in the current political landscape, where activist-slanted framing is empowered in their respective echo-chambers.
Cradle does keep getting better and better Daniel! I was skeptical after the second book but I really did enjoy it more and more with every entry.
I would also recommend the audiobooks. The narrator is so so so great and makes the story that much more fun!
I don’t support banning ANY books in schools but its worth pointing out that it isn’t just people on the right banning LGBTQ+ books. Schools have also removed books like To Kill a Mockingbird, Animal Farm, and 1984. It is wrong to ban books unless like you said, it is actually pornographic. But we can’t play the game of saying only one side is guilty when people on both sides have been guilty of banning books.
Have you looked into what's in some of these books that have been "banned" from school libraries?
I think he said unless it's obviously pornographic it should not be banned which is a good stand. But i see in the Netherlands were they don't ban books from kindergarden schools which do contain pornographic content that's it's getting pretty bad, books aged form 4 and higher showing how blowjobs work is just wrong for that age but the dutch government is to woke to do anything about it. But the topic is so toxic that it seems to always go to extremen in one direction, or ban everything or ban nothing and both are not good at least for kids ages 4 to 13 i would say.
Yes "unless pornographic" is the only qualifier to remove books from school. All information should be accessible to all in schools.
What books are being removed from public schools that aren't pornographic(either in imagery or content/writing?) i don't know about it
I'm glad they've gotten the look kinda right, though I don't really care if the characters look a little different so long as they nail the acting. To me, that's the most important thing!
I was under the impression that most if not all of the books being "banned" from public schools were either explicitly pornographic or aggressively bigoted. Am I wrong?
His whole argument against book banning is nonsensical. Hes to emotionally invested in on party to make a rational argument. Happens to the best of us
Unfortunately that's the minority.
@@greysnake2903 If it's the minority, can you please cite some specific examples of this alleged innocuous majority so that I can check them myself?
Will Wight's Cradle gets the buzz but he has two other series worth looking at. His debut Travelers Gate is a fun romp with a Sanderson meets Brent Weeks vibe (a trope twist plus action but not too grim dark), and he also has Elder Empire which is a double trilogy where each novel is the same story but told from another POV focus. Oh and one of the POV's is a ship captain with a Lovecraft Cthulu angle. So kind of your thing I think?
I will say this much. A high School student does not need to be protexted from books. People under 12 should enjoy their innocence from things like condoms and oral sex until they at least hit puberty.
This goes for heterosexual sexual material and all other forms of sex.
There is plenty of time for that later in life and prior to puberty children should not interract with sexual concepts.
So non specifically I agree with you Daniel as long as we are not talking about explicit sexual content in the hands of children under 12. WE really dont need childten that age axting this out together because its a fad to do so. Which is exactly what it is becoming in some places.
This is more nuanced than most people think.
As an example when I was younger in a rural area, I attended a K-12 school. In our library there was a section for "High School" in which there were books that explored ideas that were too socially advanced for ellementary kids.
The number of booms "banned" Is really only Dr. Seus.
There have been many books banned "in ellementary schools".
They aren't the same thing.
I remember when streaming services started. My mom asked me "how long will it take before streaming becomes cable?" It took this long heh
For me the best looking Malazan covers are the new French editions designed by Niko Inko. Just go check them out, they’re just * chef’s kiss *
I am so jaded by the two party system at this point. I typically lean conservative because I have some serious problem with the liberal approach to solving problems, but I’m sick of seeing people who are supposed to represent me calling out problems without proposing any solutions of their own. It seems like the left is the side of terrible ideas and the right is the side of stopping those terrible ideas at a time when we desperately need a good idea, and both sides jump at the opportunity to become tyrants when it fits their agenda. I don’t want to see sexually explicit content in school libraries, but I’m nowhere near stupid enough to believe that’s all people are banning, even if that’s mostly what comes up in conservative media. The fact that people saw fit to ban the Bible in retaliation when I can’t imagine anyone was getting it from the school library anyway would be funny if it didn’t paint such a poor picture of how far people have been pushed. It seems to me that most religious parents have no confidence in their ability to defend their positions to their children, and I figure that’s either a sign that you need to get a better grasp of your own religion or find a new one.
I’m religious. I believe that marriage is a sacred ordinance that lasts for eternity, and brings us as close to godliness as we can get in this life. The divine laws around the power to bring a person into the world are nearly as consequential as the laws around pushing someone out of it. That said, I’m fully aware that that isn’t going to make any sense to someone who doesn’t share my worldview, so why would I start with that? Why would I demand that everyone adhere to that if I can’t make an argument as to why anyone else should live that way? And why would I target gay people when straight people who violate my grand ideals are so much more abundant?
Honestly, the thought of the country falling to tyranny and the experiment being marked as a failure because the people have been conditioned to hate each other scares me a lot more than the thought of my future child asking me why some guys kiss each other. I’m so sick of all of this crap. Cultural differences are hard to reconcile. I don’t think any large group has managed it in human history, but it’d be nice to feel like the people up top were still trying.
I recommend continuing Cradle with the audiobooks, if you’re willing to. Travis Baldree (author and narrator for Legends and Lattes) adds so much to the series with his narration.
That said, Lindon doesn’t really start becoming a player until Ghostwater which is Book 5, and I didn’t really get into them much until Book 4. They go quick, and are on KU, otherwise I probably wouldn’t have stuck with the series myself.
Personally, I liked Cradle more than Last Horizon so far. Of course, LH hasn’t had the advantage of multiple books yet but just genre wise I’m not as invested. Cradle is American DBZ, whereas LH is sci-fantasy-er Avengers. The power scaling starts off super high from book 1, which is less enjoyable for me.
Haven’t lost me, thank you for speaking out! I was an elementary school teacher who put a huge emphasis on reading. Reading actual novels, not basal reader excerpts or worse “stories” crafted around spelling lists. I’ve been following the news on this for years, paying even more attention to it recently. When people find out I was a teacher it often comes up. The bad news is that these bigots base message is working. Over and over I have spoken to people who can’t believe I am for “porn” in schools. They honestly believe that the majority of books being banned are some paper version Debbie Does Dallas. When I say no, it is Anne Franke, biographies of Rosa Parks, books about the Holocaust and age appropriate books about the struggles of being LGBTQ+ people are surprised. At least a third of the books being banned I had in my 5th grade classroom. Probably the reason there aren’t more is because I haven’t taught in 18 years and many are more recently published. Some of my best discussions that students remember and mention to me even now were some of the most uncomfortable that had all of us reduced to tears. I don’t know if these 2 have been banned yet, but wouldn’t be surprised, are Faithful Elephants and Shin’s Tricycle about WWII in Japan. They are gut wrenching reads that sparked fantastic discussions immediately and for months after reading. The bans have had another effect. How books that are not banned are taught. I tutor my nephew who is in 10th grade. We just finished Animal Farm. Once at the beginning the teacher mentioned that it was an allegory of the Russian revolution. After that it was not brought up. The assignments were the most basic banal portions of the story. Who did or said what, order of events etc. No discussion of meaning, real life parallels, theme, author intent, comparing Animalism to Communism, nothing. I’ve seen this in previous books he’s read though this was the worst. I think teachers are afraid of any discussion. Last year we read Something Wicked This Way Comes. Again just basic facts. No discussion about good and evil, nothing about Bradbury’s use of language and description, friendship, father and son relationships. Just facts that could prove a student had read the chapter. My nephew has asked more than once why his teachers don’t talk about the things I do. I actually hope it is their fear of reprisals and not a lack of knowledge about the books. It’s no wonder students don’t want to read. Anything that sparks the imagination, thought, relevance to their lives and more has been stripped away.
I had pretty much negative interest in the Avatar live action show BUT after seeing the One Piece live action? Now, well, I honestly believe that maybe there’s a chance that this could work, too.
I also had very low expectations after seeing what they did to Cowboy Bebop. I still do, kinda? But I'm reserving judgement for now
I can't see it being as good as One Piece but they might at least do a competent adaptation for the people who like Avatar. I'd say there's about one in ten of recent TV adaptations that were worth making but they do exist. Maybe there are more faithful ones than there used to be?
I was interested until the original creators left the show due to "creative differences."
@@combogalis thats a bad sign
One series I'm thinking about from Scholastic with queer characters is Wings of Fire.
I remember when the first queer protagonist was talked about, that a mother said she wouldn't let her daughter continue reading the series anymore. The insane part is that previous books to this already featured blatant queer characters, but as soon as they're the main focus it's suddenly not okay. I've got no clue what mental gymnastics the mom was going through, but the daughter was very sad about not being able to continue reading.
I loved Will Wight’s Traveler’s Gate series first book being named House of Blades. It is a snappy trilogy and they are short and sweet
None of the so-called "bans" is preventing anyone from walking to their local Barnes & Noble or logging into Amazon and purchasing the book. I believe this is the argument that all the people currently bloviating about "book bans" used when those very same people were trying to get Huckleberry Finn and To Kill A Mockingbird banned not all that long ago.
but why should certain books be less accessible than others? most people aren't going to go to a bookstore for a book they know little to nothing about, let alone buy it from amazon, and they certainly won't randomly just find it on the shelf, find it interesting, and start reading it. these are the kind of things that happen at a library, especially a school library which is available at a place you frequent anyway, without having to take an additional trip. why should these channels be exclusive to books that conform to a bigoted ideology?
the enemy cannot be both strong and weak at the same time, book bans cannot both matter and not matter. and they do matter, which is why it's important to do something about them and not just let bigots run rampant -- but if they didn't matter, the entire mechanism could be tossed out the window, couldn't it? after all, why expend so much effort on something inconsequential such as allowing people to request the removal of books?
Re: Banning books - I recognise the difficulty of the subject & that many of the people/orgs are just bigots, but at the same time there do seem to be rather explicit books that seem inappropriate for children being included in schools. You say your cut off is if they're actually pornographic, but that's such a difficult thing to define & even then doesn't immediately take into account the age appropriateness of the content. I recognise that term is also very difficult to define & will be subjective, but it is necessary. One of the examples doing the rounds is 'Gradad's pride', which is a picture book supposed to be for 4+, but it has a couple in fetishwear/bondage gear; it's not porn by any means, but does seem to be age inappropriate.
So, I'm off to the side with the people who thing that banning books is generally wrong, but also recognise that there seem to be books that aren't appropriate for schools or for young children in general. It's not always a case of "not being able to handle the content", sometimes there's genuinely content that crosses the line & needs to be dealt with (without giving ammo to the bigots).
In my opinion (as a german) the only books that should be banned are those that specifically ask and encourage people to be violent and hateful to others. I feel like that is a line which should be drawn but I understand that the "freedom of speech" arguement is very important to US-folks.
Thank you daniel for adressing this issue. I feel like those bans are the modern versions of a the burning book pile.
The issue I have is that these are not "bans" the way we think of the Nazis banning books. In the majority of these cases, books are being removed from elementary schools (kids age 5-11) because they're inappropriate for young children. The vast majority of these are due to pornographic or explicit sexual content. Many of these books are still available in high school libraries, public libraries, bookstores, and Amazon. Surely we can agree that actual "book banning" is terrible, but also there are certain books which shouldn't be in school libraries for young children?
If I could like more than once I would. Very well said. Daniel went over the top here. Parents have genuine concerns about the content they're exposed too while they're in the care of other people. Remember, school is mandatory. Parents get in trouble if they allow their kids a sick day. Parents have more rights over their children than a teacher does.
I'm so happy you talked about Markiplier's Iron Lung! He's an amazing creator and needs for more people to be aware that he does way more than just playing games.
My understanding was that parents wanted sexually explicit books kept out of elementary school libraries. Parents reading excerpts from the book out loud at school board meetings were told to stop due to the content. A parent not wanting their children exposed to that is not bigotry. I'm not hearing any call to ban them from public libraries or stop them from being published. Perhaps it is primarily LGBTQ+ authors being impacted by this because the majority of the questionable content is being written by those authors.
The book "And Tango makes Three" is banned, its based on a true story about two male penguins who lived in a zoo, they were very dependent on each other, anyway they started to incubate a rock which was then replaced with an egg, Tango was the chick that hatched and was raised.
Pretty sure its not about sexual content. But also they're happy to ignore books about straight romance with sexual content in it.
OMG yes please continue with Cradle, I fell in love with the series a few months back and binged the whole series on audiobook within one month, it was brilliant.😍
Today's news were pretty bad and sad
5:19 I think this is a bit of a simplistic take, there are lots of things that aren’t explicitly pornographic which I would still want banned from a school library like Mein Kampf. Plus there’s definitely a spectrum of how risqué a book is before it becomes porn and different people are going to draw the line at different spots. You can be against 100% of the common proposed book bans while still acknowledging that there are edge cases where reasonable people can genuinely disagree on if something should be allowed.
Why would a school librarian buy Mein Kampf, indeed, who would they buy it from? It is not necessary for school children to read it, to understand the history of the Weimar Republic, through the Third Reich to the Nuremburg trials. I would be surprised if even many history students read it.
(students being people found only in universities, not schools for people used to alternate English)
Does Will Wight pronounce his name "wit"? Because I've always thought it was pronounced "white." Also, I'd keep giving Cradle a go. I really enjoyed where the story went. I read his traveler's trilogy and it was a bit TOO anime for me. Haven't read his other series yet, though. Also, amen on the book banning bigots, brother.
It was bothering me so I checked his Kicktarter video. Definitely says it like White @DanielGreeneReviews
"I also feel terrible for those of humble faith, who don't want their faith weaponized for bigotry, who have to sit down and watch people act like they're actually preaching Christian values, when they're trying to just be bigots.
"...even if I disagree with something, I believe it should be available for open discussion and I'm actually willing to talk to my potential future kids about that."
Thanks for expressing well what I've been trying to for a while. I see too much extremism regarding religious people--not many people acknowledge the existence of those who genuinely live their faith / religious principles and are good to other people. I see a lot of good faithful people get unfairly pinned as being dogmatic bigots. And yes, don't hide the world from your children. Raise them to listen to people and critically think.
Hey Daniel! I'm going through Ryan Cahill's The Bound and the Broken Series right now and WOW!! I wasn't expecting it to be so good, I think you might really like it
(Small nitpick) I can't find anything below, but I think someone messed up. It is Will Wight's "Last Horizon" series.
As for the Cradle series, if you haven't been grabbed by book one or two, then set it down and go for "The Captain" it might be more your bag. I LOVE the series and it gets insane by the end, but if you aren't getting grabbed by book three, set it down. Might not be your thing.
Book Banning: HECK YESSSS! LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
And, once again, thank you for the support for helping indie writers find a bit more of an audience.
Cradle is something you'll really enjoy after becoming a shonen anime nerd.
And like Dresden the series only really kicks off after the first 3 books. So i would really reccomend you reach book 5. They're really quick reads. If you don't love it after that, then it's not for you
For those who want to know more about the situation with Scholastic, Bookish Realm has a video reacting to it.
Markaplier has done some interesting film type projects in the past (including a few really good choose-your-own-adventures)
Thank you for taking us on this journey
Can anyone explain or give source for why Daniel started shouting bigots in the middle of fantasy news... I am looking for book bans but what I found are 6 months to a year old news... Without context, that scene feels so out of place.
The Miami times did a story a few days ago that contains this line "According to the report, public school districts in the Sunshine State logged a whopping 1,406 book bans during the 2022-2023 school year". It could be that, but honestly book banning is as common as mass shootings in the US so it's hard to know which of the many incidents floated to the top of the public consciousness.
@@jonevansauthor thanks... I will look it up now..
The librarian at my old school was perfectly able of labeling books by genre and age(YA/Adult), why can't they just require something like that? Ohhhhh because they dont have real reasoning and if they did straight books have done worse?
Book bands should only happen when there is sexual content that's inappropriate for the age group. Basically, elementary school students shouldn't be learning about sex before they are ready .Whether it's gay or strait.
Are people forgetting that sex ed starts in elementary school for many? I was in 5th grade, 11 years old.
I think you are right, but unfortunately people try to say a character being non traditional is pushing sexuality to keep their children from being exposed at all.
I agree, but often people associate two people of same sex kissing in the books or even two male penguins rising an egg together with sex, because it's gay and gay is explicitly sexual to them
thats it?
Graphic violent content is ok?
Complex morality issues they aren't equipped to deal with yet?
@@breem2999 First, school libraries are open to all the kids in the school. Second, a book or graphic novel depicting sex isn't the same as a sex ed class.
Daniel, I am so impressed by your scholarship! How do you find time to read all these books and view all fantasy/scifi series? As for me, it took a full year to read The Lord of the Rings, six months to read Dune, and four months to read Bram Stokers Dracula. I read at a staggering slow pace and get distracted easily. Reading LOTR to me was comparable to climbing Mt Everest. I sometimes have to reread and reread again for comprehension. So I'm glad when books are adapted to screen so i can get a taste of popular books like Foundation, Wheel of Time, His Dark Materials, Shadow and Bone. But I'm not ignorant, i have a BS in Mathematics and an .MS in Civil Engineering. I'm glad I found your UA-cam channel so I can get a glimpse of popular fantasy and scifi. (I agree totally with your book burning sentiments. )
I'm into cosplay. I have a Hobbit costume and have been to two DragonCons and two San Diego ComicCons.
look into either audiobooks or something like spreeder that can help you read much faster. They even have apps that are specifically able to help people who are dyslexic.
Preach it Danny!
Very happy to know that you will be reading more Will Wight. The Cradle brainrot is real.
I was reading the first book in the series but didn't like it much. Does it get better after the first?
@@Booksaremysolace 100%. Honestly I don't think it gets like 'really really good' until book five or so. But YES, it 100% gets better. Unsouled is very much the weak point
@@lotustheblooming Ah thank you! I was thinking of not going forward with the series anymore but I may now pick up the next book
@@Booksaremysolace Yay! always happy to pass some more brainrot around
Can’t wait for Nghi Vo’s new book! Each novella has been a delight and only keeps getting better
❤
Azula in that shot looked a little bit uncanny valley to me but I’m chalking that up to lighting. The design and particularly costuming looks really good so far though.
When it comes to book banning I agree that the government, or really any people of power, want others to be easily manipulated and in order to do so they have to get rid of any material that educates others.
Also gives people a chance to analyse works in depth.
I watched a video where there were 4th or 5th graders (I think) showing what they are reading and they were frustrated that they are being given child level books.
I remember having that frustration. I went to a private school in elementary, my father didn't let me skip grades. So in my last 3 years there I basically had an unspoken agreement with the teachers I could just go to the library when my work was done. Thankfully the library was pretty good overall, however many times when forced to read a book for class my biggest issue was it felt way to basic and boring.
Iron lung has the trappings of being a game, but mostly it is atmospheric world building.
There was a whole book ban thing happening in my town and at first, I was very against the ban, but then it turns out the book in question in the kids section of the public library was explicitly pornographic, showing explicit sex acts in it. 😬😳
That is usually the case with most of these bans.
Please keep reading Cradle. The first couple books are interesting, but it really takes off after book 5. It's not a huge investment of time, they are pretty short. You will thank yourself later. It's not like asking someone to read, say, "Gardens of the Moon" and trust that it gets better. :D
"Oh Harry don't you see?" Hermione breathed. "If she (Umbridge) could have done one thing to make absolutely sure that every single person in this school will read your interview, it was banning it!" - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (pg. 582) J.K. Rowling.
Loved your words Dan and thank you for advocating open discussion for all genres and communities. Being a person of faith, I want to take my daughter straight to the banned book section at our local B&N (once she's old enough) and encourage her to dive right in. While I might be opposed to another author's perspective, learning to respect their view and value their opinion is key.
Christopher Hitchens once pointed out in an interview the benefits of children ridding themselves of the “burdens of innocence”. He mentioned most children he met were far smarter and better informed than he was at their age, and his own son asked him questions he wouldn’t have even thought, let alone dared, to voice to his own father as a child.
Thanks for the spotlight, Daniel! Love the gravitas you inserted into the reading 😄
Oh, and Gunmetal Gods is incredible. Can't wait to get my hands on the special edition
Really hate how streaming have evolved, i been going full physical latelly or at least all i can, books, games, movies, comic, manga, anime, etc.
A couple years ago Steam make me realice how little control i have over """my""" digital library. I cancel my Netflix when all the companies run away to make their own bllsht app.
So… not just lgbtq+, but also Anne Frank. And Toni Morison. And Kindred, by Octavia Butler has been banned.
I am a Christian. And consider what is happening an idolization of my faith. Sacrilige really, unironically.
Im not saying this ironically: this is some actually nazi shit
As a non-bigoted Christian: YES!! F***ING THANK YOU!!
Hmm..didn't know learning about genitalia and getting blow jobs/oral sex in elementary/middle school wasn't pornographic. And I'm agnostic...so has nothing to do with religion. And it's not a "ban" if you can get the book outside of the school. Religious texts aren't in these schools either....not sure where you get this information...
Yup it’s pure gaslighting of parents not into trans ideolog. Although some schools are just banning books for having gay things, what you said is true there are genuine concerns.
Iron Lung is my best friend’s husband’s game!!! I was so excited to see this in your news!! I have been a big fan of yours for a couple of years and it was super fun to see their game/movie in your news!
Also, thanks for your comments about book banning. As a school librarian, it’s a really hard issue right now and incredibly frustrating.
I’d like to give a middle ground perspective on the Book Ban thing. Is the practice of banning books bad? Absolutely, no question. Are LGBTQ authors bad people? No.
However, there have been *multiple* school counsel meetings with parents where their kids got an lgbtq book from the school library *and* it has explicit sex scenes in them. While I don’t think it’s bad to share lgbtq experiences, having books be on the shelves with explicit sex scenes is something no child should have access to. So while a lot of the books bans may be on lgbtq authors, the bad apples in the batch are ruining the space for authors who just want to tell wholesome stories. So in that sense, I understand why the book bans are a thing. Any other book ban stuff (especially with public libraries) I don’t understand.
Really appreciate the self-pub promo section. Gonna go check out touch of light :)
This is a nuanced issue. I'd like to add my two cents.
In my experience, when characters in a book are depicted as queer, there's usually a focus on romance and sex in the story. Now this may or may not be a good thing depending on people's preferences and it definitely isn't the case in every book but it's a theme that occurs more often than not. Heterocentric stories have been around WAY longer, therefore have a lot more variety in the way relationships are written.
The solution to this problem isn't banning all LGBTQ books imo but I understand why school and parents are so up in arms about this issue.
*coughs* Sappho *coughs*
The solution doesn't involve banning any books, LGBTQ or otherwise.
Hi Daniel!
Before I respond to your request regarding Will Wight, I would just like to preface by stating that I have only completed the first 4 books in the Cradle series, for your consideration.
That said, from my limited exposure to Cradle I can say that I feel the Will Wight-iverse is very similar to the Cosmere in that the more of his books you read before moving on to the next, the more you get out of it.
Both the Elder Empire series (Sea and Shadow) and The Traveler's Gate Trilogy made me appreciate what I've read of Cradle so much more, and I'm certain that The Last Horizon would likely add even more to that mythos (though admittedly I haven't gotten around to that series yet, but I'm hopeful), since Cradle is essentially the Rhoshar of that interconnected universe.
I hope that helps with your dilemma!
Daniel, read some of the books they're banning, some of them instruct kids on how to get on grinder and find older men. If you had kids you'd care. In saying that, changing the words to Rahl Dahl's books is insanity. surely we can find a middle ground. . . like no sex stuff for kids. . .
That passage was taken out of context. It is followed by testimonials about dating apps from multiple people, including people strongly encouraging the readers to stay away from those sorts of apps because they're dangerous. Giving people all the information and allowing them to make an informed decision is _not_ the same as teaching them how to do things.
I was so frustrated with not being able to find Malazan in hardcover that i bought softcovers, stripped them, digitized them, prepared for print and then had them handmade by a professional bookbinder into luxurious, clothbound one-of-a-kind edition. 4 volumes ready and they look BE-A-UTIFUL, the remaining 6 will be completed before X-mas. AND NOW I LEARN THER'S GONNA BE ANOTHER DELUXE EDITION. Damn.
I managed to find all of them through Abebooks - some were library copies so had stamps on the endpapers, which I didn’t mind. They can get quite pricey and it took me months to get them all … and the first three are a smaller format because for some reason they were not published as regular sized hardbacks? 😅
Reading through the comments it’s clear no one here has had a conversation with a conservative person. Arguments sure but never a conversation.
Also you have a right to your opinions but for the love of everything stop putting people in groups and categories and then using that as a basis of judgement.
It's easy to attack a straw man
@@anthonycotto9251 nothing in life, politics, or society will ever get better until we stop holding those perceived as enemies to a higher standard but instead hold ourselves to a higher standard
@@snakebagel9729 I agree 💯
Will you ever consider rereading Malazan?
I watch Daniel because I like to keep up with what is happening in the fantasy/science fiction world. Well, that and Daniel seems sane. I don't feel like taking a shower to cleanse my mind from madness of the crowds. Then with this book banning he says, "Form sides. Pick up your guns. take aim, and shoot." The world has lost its mind. Everyone hates everyone else, and we are all waiting for trigger to slaughter each other. Often privilege and education doesn't bring about wiser minds and rational thought, but in Daniels case I thought it had. Nope. What's wrong with the world is, everyone is sure they are the good guys being persecuted by evil people. Both sides think this, and both sides can't be right. I know what I'm saying is useless, but everyone should just stop. Take a deep breath. The person you see as the evil enemy is just someone doing what they believe is morally right. Be they wrong or right, they are human beings. Please believe me. The person you see as monster, isn't. Seeing they person as a monster, brings out monstrous behavior in us. Just step back and take a breath. All you have to lose is the insanity.
The tolerance paradox: If a society is totally tolerant, then it must also tolerate those who do not tolerate others. Thus the intolerate nd hateful are allowed to flourish whilst those who wish for peace and harmony are forced to cower in fear. I don't advocate for picking up guns and forming sides. I advocate for defending your identity: the only thing they can't take away from you unless you let them.
I agree. My personal belief is the intolerant must be met with intolerance. Those who choose violence, must be stopped with any means possible. The problem is, it's not working. I'm watch the tragic happenings in Israel. I don't mean to smear Daniel. Honestly, it's a personal failure. I'm powerless and have no effect in world affairs, yet everyone around me is altered. Everyone is becoming extremist. I have no idea what to do with the people in my life, except remove them from my life. There has to be something better. I'm honestly sorry I blamed Daniel for anything. @@admiralepic1357
I got a message from Netflix claiming they would be raising the price by another $2 a month and i was like..that’s it..I’m done. I can’t share my account..they want to include adds..and they are raising the cost? And to hear you say they are making even more money with new subscribers makes me even more glad I cancelled. I’m so sick of corporate greed
Thank you for your support, Daniel!
Being in book spaces has been hard recently because the bringing up of book bans (particularly when they pertain to books featuring queer people, discrimination, etc) always brings the worst kinds of people out of the woodwork. It has been exhausting to deal with.
And activists never no when to stop.
I signed up for Broken Binding back in March or April and am nervous I wont get in in time for the Malazan editions D:
I am going to try not to be that annoying guy with this, but this is now the third time I have called out the mispronunciation of Will Wight’s name. This seems to stem from your first video covering his work. His last name has a G not a C. The font used on the cover is not the best for making that distinction. And I can see how dyslexia could make that even harder to do. Out of respect for the author I will continue to post the correction each time you pronounce the name like WiCcckcKht (trying to show the emphasis you enjoy throwing on the hard C sound) instead if the proper pronunciation which sounds like white. Respectfully.
Daniel, when you sign the final book please do something slightly different with the last signature so that the person who gets that copy knows it was the final one to sign! That would be cool
Well, following your own opinion then, it is ok to ban these books. Haven't you read them? they do contain pornographic material in them. I invite you to read them yourself.
Yes plz, give that man a beard and I'll be coming for Uncle's tea every Sunday.
While I completely agree with the book ban rant as it is directed towards the most extreme and hateful proponents of that side of the discussion, there is a lot of complexity and nuance lost with generalizing an entire side of an argument based on a specific subsect of that group. There are perfectly reasonable, non-transphobic, non-homophobic, and non-hateful discussions that can be had about the issue. Is there an age appropriate level for children to learn about LGBT issues? What are the boundaries for any (traditional or LGBT) romance (physical, emotional,…) in books marketed to children? What is the proper role of public schools as a vehicle for dissemination of these materials? You may think it’s perfectly fine for your kid to read and have access to that material. You’re the parent. You are making a controlled parental decision to allow your kid access to that in a way that you are still there to help provide context and understanding. You lose that if a kid can access that stuff without you being able to help them navigate through it. And this not only extends to romance and LGBT issues. I’m very particular about the levels of violence my kid watches based on his maturity, ability to contextualize, and other behavioral elements. I would be concerned as well if he had access to violent media at school without my knowledge or ability to control or contextualize for him. What about educational material that is overly inflammatory, lacking alternate perspectives, or even disproven by experts in the field (The Bell Curve, 1619 Project, a children’s book about the Israel-Palestinian conflict but with an extreme bias to one side)? While I absolutely agree with Daniel here when it comes to directing anger and frustration at hateful intent, that should not be a cudgel to prevent any honest discussion about the role of public schools, parental consent, and children’s access to sensitive material.
I’m sorry, but the fact that you think the 1619 project is inflammatory tells me enough to ignore the rest of your rant. Many kids will experiment with sex by middle school age. Having books that will educate them as to what is safe and what is not, how to tell when they are being victimized is extremely helpful. You are sending kids to school because you want experts to teach them. Experts should decide what is appropriate and what is not.
@@disembodiedvoicek the veracity of the 1619 project has been called into question for cherry picking evidence by many peer reviewers and even by the historian contributors to it. You can look up the article where he calls it out. Sorry. You have to do your research there.
@@disembodiedvoicek but it seems like you just want to shut down having a discussion here because I called out 1 specific thing. I could have a legitimate conversation with you without any hate, or transphobia, or homophobia. I don’t even have to agree with your points and you may have some good ones. The point is that it is a conversation that we can and should have without trying to shut it down for baseless reasons like assuming I feel a certain way or align myself with a specific agenda. And the comment about inflammatory was more in line with The Bell Curve and the Israel-Palestine examples. The 1619 project was much more about ones that have been disproven.
Love watching your channel. I was wondering if you have read the Black Company Series by Glen Cook yet. I looked through your video and it doesn't look like you have. It is my favorite series and was really curious on your thoughts. Thank you...
Several of the books that people have freaked out about have been explicitly pornographic.
Stop saying people who just want to protect kids are bigots Jesus Christ no one cares that gay people exist but what is the obsession with teaching kids about gay sex or any sex what so ever. No romance should exist in any books found in elementary or middle school libraries. High school is when kids should be introduced to these concepts anything younger then that the burden falls on the parents.
"no one cares that gay people exist" Ah. ha. ha. ha. ha.
Bollocks.
Late backer but got my hardcover copy of Neon Ghost ordered!! Thanks Daniel!
Oh, for goodness' sake. From the link:
"Scholastic, an educational company that publishes and distributes books for children and young adults, created a separate collection for its more diverse titles, allowing schools to opt in or out, or limit, their inclusion in elementary school fairs."
How is that "banning"?
Limiting what children are exposed to (and IN SCHOOL) is not "book banning." There's all kinds of material that we know is not appropriate for children, according to their ages. When did this become controversial? Should elementary school kids, especially younger ones, learn the basic facts about the Holocaust, wars in general, slavery, etc.? Sure. But in ways appropriate to their ages. A general statement is one thing. A graphic, detailed explanation with photos, or a video is something else. Common sense, people!
Then there are things children should not be exposed to at all. (Or, at least, not in schools. We can't control what parents choose to do.) That includes books featuring sexual deviancy The fact that this is now "controversial" is both ridiculous and horrifying.
Again, this is not "book banning." Adults can find whatever books they want.
I saw a screening of the first episode of monarch at NY comic con and was really impressed. CGI was awesome
Parents have a right and are responsible for what their kids are subjected to or consume, they are the first line of defense. Do i agree with book burning or banning? Not particularly, do i think parents have a right to subject their children to things they find age appropriate? Absolutely. I love this channel man but you have to remember that the world isnt one size fits all and that includes people who might be more conservative or reserved.
I think you have done first two books in Cradle. Try the third one, that’s the first major quality jump imo. Book 5 is one of the best, but I’d say try book 3, and see if that works. If not then I’d say this series isn’t really for you.
Fairly poor, non contextualized, non nuanced take on your book banning rant, sorry... but you said, if it's clearly pornographic, then yes, they shouldn't be there... But that's exactly what is going on. If you look at the details, the books are being removed from Elementary and Middle School and NOT High Schools. Once you get beyond Progressive talking points (being used in an ideological war) - All that is being asked is that we do age-appropriate education. The idea that 'Those People' (which btw, you seriously need to adjust that kind of language) absorbed and consumed hetero-sexual content in books is so far from the truth it's funny. Where do you think ratings systems came from? Tipper Gore wasn't on a crusade against LGBTQ+ content in the 80s, it was hetero content, be real, understand and know history.
BTW, just as a note, you said, Christian, what I think you meant to say is Christian and Muslim - did you do that on purpose? Or was that, again, just your youthful experience coming into play. Let's not forget which communities are fighting the hardest against this kind of things in schools (I'll give you a hint, it's the one you forgot to say).
My wife has been a PTA president in 3 different states, at every level (elementary, Middle and high school) - The Scholastic Book program has been dying for a very long time - it has more to do with how we absorb media these days. The younger a kid gets a device, the earlier they stop having physical books. This controversy you reference is because scholastic did the reasonable thing, it allowed local communities to opt-out of receiving certain kinds of books (particularly because of laws in those states), books they don't think are appropriate at the age-level they are being promoted for. So, if your local community wants them you get them, if they don't - they don't - it's how our Republic is supposed to work. Kids and parents who want that content, can get it anytime they want, Amazon will deliver it next day or you can just run down to the local library and get it... the funny thing is that the books aren't 'banned' they are just not available as part their civic education provided by government agents (based on age-appropriateness). Restrictions of what those agents can and can't do has been a long-standing part of our legal system.
Still love the channel - everyone is entitled to their opinion - Keep up the great content!
Some lovely dog whistles you got going on there.
@@maluse227whats that even mean😅
Ur a silly person. U can't be serious. I saw a fair nuanced intelligent take.
@@maluse227nope he was right to raise it, many people do it. Call out Christianity but scared to do it for Islam, cause they think ‘ow they think I’m bad" double standards, especially in the UK where teachers have had to go into hiding due to death threats from Muslims
I’m rather proud to buy your book and support this channel.
Cradle good 😊👍
"Puh-TREEK" 😭omg Daniel noooo.
His name is PECH-rick 💀