Aristotle's Philosophy - Martha Nussbaum & Bryan Magee (1987)

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  • Martha Nussbaum discusses the thought of Aristotle with Bryan Magee in this program. This is the second episode in the 1987 series on the Great Philosophers. The rest in the series can be found here: • The Great Philosophers...
    #philosophy #aristotle #bryanmagee

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  • @Philosophy_Overdose
    @Philosophy_Overdose  Рік тому +35

    Yes, this is a reupload. I wanted a version with higher audio quality. I’ll still leave the previous video up, but as unlisted, so as to not break any external links with it. Sorry about any inconvenience!

    • @michaelmeenan5522
      @michaelmeenan5522 8 місяців тому +1

      No apologies are necessary, mate. I have only gratitude that you have made this wonderful conversation available both to those who are interested and those who are fortunate to stumble across. 😊

  • @BugMateo
    @BugMateo 10 місяців тому +50

    Bryan's intros are a lesson on communication... tremendous

    • @xenoblad
      @xenoblad 8 місяців тому +3

      FR
      Extremely clear, concise, and almost impossible to misinterpret. Her students are very lucky.

    • @aarongreenberg159
      @aarongreenberg159 7 місяців тому +2

      Certainly. And holds up even in the environment of the internet

  • @Joseph-nw3gw
    @Joseph-nw3gw 4 місяці тому +10

    She is now 77 years and going strong.

  • @piotrdrukier
    @piotrdrukier 9 місяців тому +33

    Martha Nussbaum kicks ass! What a mind?! Then and now! Thank you so much!

    • @donaldist7321
      @donaldist7321 5 місяців тому +1

      Martha Nussbaum is like a very self-conscious child genius, who has a total grasp of Aristotle, and she is embarrassed by it.

  • @manfredbazarov6417
    @manfredbazarov6417 9 місяців тому +76

    Why can't we have TV programming as deep as this today? Now, it would be a trendy young academic, parading round the ruins of Athens to a booming soundtrack, giving us patronizing soundbites and making inappropriate comparisons between Aristotle and figures from today's pop culture, with dramatized inserts.

    • @CNS946
      @CNS946 8 місяців тому +2

      Precisely!

    • @firstal3799
      @firstal3799 8 місяців тому +3

      Because public likes the Kardashians

    • @polybian_bicycle
      @polybian_bicycle 8 місяців тому +9

      ​@@firstal3799
      The public has been made to like the Kardashians

    • @loge10
      @loge10 7 місяців тому +8

      But it's not even just about TV programming. There's tons of "content" on UA-cam on topics of intellectual or or artistic depth, but they are often presented as if for those with brief attention spans or are more about the presenter saying, "hey, look at me!" - as if it's really about to presenter and not the topic at hand. You never see Bryan Magee giving that impression.

    • @loge10
      @loge10 7 місяців тому

      ​@@sensibility1174Your reply makes no sense.

  • @mikaelthesleff3333
    @mikaelthesleff3333 5 місяців тому +2

    These interviews are real gems 😍

  • @ministry_of_love
    @ministry_of_love 2 місяці тому

    I'm very grateful for this channel and listen to it often

  • @DavidBivol
    @DavidBivol 11 місяців тому +8

    Thank you for this marvellous video ❤

  • @crosstolerance
    @crosstolerance 4 місяці тому +2

    I find Aristotle's ideas in ethics most appealing and relevant in shaping the world we live in today.

    • @MichaelSheffield-ox8yd
      @MichaelSheffield-ox8yd 29 днів тому

      You will be accused of white supremacy. And if you take that charge seriously, sad.

  • @Pontiki1977
    @Pontiki1977 6 місяців тому +4

    I am a 47 year old Greek, and 90% of all the things i know about my ancestors of that time, came from English, American, and German people.

    • @stefanorossi3244
      @stefanorossi3244 4 місяці тому

      delving deeper into Italian philosophical culture would have opened up perhaps more interesting paths for you

    • @stefanorossi3244
      @stefanorossi3244 4 місяці тому

      ...keeping in mind that a large part of Greek culture (from the very beginning) was born in MAGNA GRECIA (ltaly)

    • @Pontiki1977
      @Pontiki1977 4 місяці тому

      @@stefanorossi3244 why would i dive into Italian philosophy specifically? I don't see philosophy like national teams. I read Ancient Greeks and Nietzsche, and i get equally excited. And yes i have devoted countless hours into studying the history of Rome and Italy. I also read many ancient Greek text translated by Italian academics.
      Your comment is confusing..

  • @hussienmohammed2914
    @hussienmohammed2914 8 місяців тому +4

    when reading Aritotle, his words fixes the very evaluating principles we use to assess what we are reading. one doesnt wanna say no to aristotle, or he'd sooner or later regret it. Aristotle is completely perfect.

    • @xenoblad
      @xenoblad 8 місяців тому +3

      Not sure if you mean something different by perfect but there’s plenty wrong with many of his claims, especially his empirical claims on women that were debunkable even in his day.

    • @hussienmohammed2914
      @hussienmohammed2914 8 місяців тому

      @@xenoblad need to know greek language and culture as well as a sound mind to grasp the literature.

    • @xenoblad
      @xenoblad 8 місяців тому +3

      @@hussienmohammed2914 So there was some hidden meaning when he got the number of teeth women have wrong?

    • @hussienmohammed2914
      @hussienmohammed2914 8 місяців тому +1

      @@xenoblad show me the original text, and I will be able to tell you wether its by Aristotle or not. This is the only way I can be helpful in this regard.

    • @Pontiki1977
      @Pontiki1977 6 місяців тому

      @@hussienmohammed2914 He was not perfect and my native language is Greek by the way. I also study with passion Ancient Greek in order to better understand the original texts.
      What the heck is a perfect human being or perfect philosopher? He was a genius and a multitasker. And of course one of the worlds greatest thinkers.
      But his fails regarding women were not the only ones.
      Of course, compared to him, me, the judge of Aristotle, i am an absolute zero.

  • @mclark8857
    @mclark8857 4 місяці тому +3

    it would be hilarious to see Aristotle's simultaneously reacting to the fact that a) he's still extremely relevant 3000 years later, and that b) his work can be studied by women

  • @RogerKM
    @RogerKM 4 місяці тому +1

    What a mind! Both of them.

  • @miglriccardi
    @miglriccardi 6 місяців тому +6

    I thought Diane worked at Cheers full time. Who knew she was also faculty at Brown?

  • @dikkie2913
    @dikkie2913 Рік тому +5

    Brilliant❤

  • @nowhereman6019
    @nowhereman6019 5 місяців тому

    It's all systems. What a thing does and how it does it determines its essence. However, I think it's still important to recognize that the specific kind of matter making up that system is also essential to its functioning. And ultimately, all atoms of matter are made up of the same building blocks, meaning there is a fundamental neutral emptiness to everything, and that essence is only created by the functioning of many indistinguishable atoma of matter in different ways with one another.

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 4 місяці тому

    11:05
    ‘…’nous’ is a kind of insight we get into the explanatory role - the fundamental status of a principle - by our experience in using it - to give scientific explanations…’ - gawd help us!

  • @jamesmhango2619
    @jamesmhango2619 11 місяців тому +3

    By Nature every man desires to know, Being qua being.

  • @erikjunior8686
    @erikjunior8686 3 місяці тому

    Aristotle sees all particular things as real. The dried leaves on the ground, each snowflake, even the flies that bug you, all particulars are true reality as opposed to Plato's ideas where there is an idea or archetype of a fly, and all specific flies are shadows of their real form.

  • @nbradgarrett
    @nbradgarrett 8 місяців тому +2

    She kinda looks like vintage Sean Young, which I'm not upset about.

  • @danielpincus221
    @danielpincus221 6 місяців тому +1

    This interview took place 37 years ago, in 1987.

  • @Kataroobungaloo
    @Kataroobungaloo 5 місяців тому +1

    This lady is so smart wtf

  • @alexanderkurz2409
    @alexanderkurz2409 9 місяців тому +1

    30:40 on souls and life and forms

  • @VenusLover17
    @VenusLover17 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤

  • @DuncanPenny-v7q
    @DuncanPenny-v7q 13 годин тому

    Thomas Richard Lewis Ruth Gonzalez Jennifer

  • @briandzwoniarek8952
    @briandzwoniarek8952 6 місяців тому

    Can someone clear up Aristotle stance on equity vs equality? She starts to touch on it at the end while disputing his politics. Is she saying that his ideals of politics and equity aren't *reconcilable* because of his views on women, foreigners or slaves? As Aristotle is in favor of *equity when it comes to justice*, but favors male citizenship in this principle???

  • @MartinLopez-mo7tm
    @MartinLopez-mo7tm 7 місяців тому

    After watching this, read Durant.

  • @larrycreech9847
    @larrycreech9847 4 місяці тому +1

    Is she reading a script? She keeps looking down. Just wondering?

  • @DingbatToast
    @DingbatToast 5 місяців тому +1

    So this is what American women were like before Ticktock

  • @hemantchouhan3760
    @hemantchouhan3760 11 місяців тому +1

    Are there not contemporary professors to comment on this topic, we would love to listen.

    • @firstal3799
      @firstal3799 8 місяців тому

      Wittgenstein.

    • @GodOfTheInternets
      @GodOfTheInternets 6 місяців тому

      @@firstal3799 Wittgenstein has been dead for some time, how do you suppose you could comment on this ;) ?

  • @christopherdaly1399
    @christopherdaly1399 4 місяці тому

    Nussbaum, the only female philosopher in the series.

    • @richardharney3639
      @richardharney3639 2 місяці тому

      Actually Magee talks with Iris Murdoch as well.

  • @ianmcgee9850
    @ianmcgee9850 9 місяців тому

    I’m only missing a BR

  • @AugustasKunc
    @AugustasKunc 6 місяців тому

    +

  • @UserNotFound-mw4hp
    @UserNotFound-mw4hp 2 місяці тому

    I find this shallow and pedantic....indeed...*puffs on bubble pipe*

  • @PhilStein721
    @PhilStein721 9 місяців тому +2

    I wanna pet that dawwg

    • @robertbehrendt3015
      @robertbehrendt3015 6 місяців тому

      That is certainly better than spanking the monkey.

  • @garymelnyk7910
    @garymelnyk7910 9 місяців тому

    Round and round and round, but getting nowhere!

    • @robertbehrendt3015
      @robertbehrendt3015 6 місяців тому

      That is why Science is getting nowhere because logic, observation and appearance are incapable of understanding Being which is an inner subjective reality beyond the intellect and senses.

  • @joefox9765
    @joefox9765 3 місяці тому

    They can talk for an hour and not say anything at all 😮

  • @IA100KPDT
    @IA100KPDT 11 місяців тому +2

    The greatest philosopher that never existed.

    • @joelkaranikas7314
      @joelkaranikas7314 10 місяців тому +16

      Aristotle's ontological status being debated is what he would have wanted

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury 9 місяців тому

      Studied in Beijing, did you? Idiotic claim.

    • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
      @RuthvenMurgatroyd 6 місяців тому

      I get questioning the existence of Socrates (it's wrong but I get it) but Aristotle? Why do we distrust the Ancients so?

    • @IA100KPDT
      @IA100KPDT 6 місяців тому

      @@RuthvenMurgatroyd Greek history is fake histories. Period. U will always see a little Jesuits monks somewhere writing their fake histories. Western civilizations? what civilizations? French kings bathed twice a year. They only had palaces in 17th centuries. Before, its all old musty stinking castles lived by humans and animals. Western histories are created to sell the bible stories to unite the white folks and to keep them brainwash. Goethe and Voltaire knew all these.

    • @IA100KPDT
      @IA100KPDT 6 місяців тому

      @@RuthvenMurgatroyd Someone is removing my comments. They don't like the truth.

  • @firstal3799
    @firstal3799 8 місяців тому +1

    Bryan Magee isn't brown at all.🤣

  • @bryanutility9609
    @bryanutility9609 6 місяців тому

    5 min in, just bla bla… all that matters is how to act.

  • @rod6189
    @rod6189 8 місяців тому

    Women and philosophy don't go together.
    Sorry

    • @thegreatest2842
      @thegreatest2842 7 місяців тому +1

      Another misogynistic c*ck.

    • @thatconfoundedbridge
      @thatconfoundedbridge 7 місяців тому +12

      This has to be a bait comment 🤣

    • @robertbehrendt3015
      @robertbehrendt3015 6 місяців тому +1

      For sure, this statement is intimating that homosexuality is the basic qualifications to be a great Greek Philosopher, particularly if you are an Aristotelian.

    • @PsychedelicAnxiety
      @PsychedelicAnxiety 6 місяців тому +2

      mom problems

    • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
      @RuthvenMurgatroyd 6 місяців тому

      ​@@robertbehrendt3015 Don't think Aristotle is the best example of someone who practices the Greek sin. Your joke would have worked better if you said Greek in general but Aristotle was definitely not someone who would have thought much of that lifestyle and even Plato disparaged it after romanticizing it on a non physical level.