@@makitahq not the point, the fact that this is a 5min guide with barely any explanation except "sin your character" is the real problem. Helping people understand why things work the way they do and why they sim better is the point of a guide and not to just look at Wowhead and then create a pointless guide that does a worse Job than wowhead or icy does
Where should i put my points when i reach 34 on the frost talents? Chilblains, Hungering Cold or Improved Frost Presence? Why they show as not marked in 0:35?
I think I might try respeccing into Frost! I've always been a Blood DK die-hard player, nothing more or else, but I think a nice change of scenery would be nice this go around 🥰
the way killing machines procs go, you can hit 3-5 huge crits in a row and it feels really good, especially w/ howling blast in aoe packs that die too fast for diseases/d&d to get their full durations
About the death run syncing while playing sub blood, your opening should be something like: IT > PS > Obl > BS > BS > BT > UA > (ghoul if BL and fallen crusader procced) > FS > FS > Obl > Obl > ... after this you probably have the choice to spend your death runes on another Obliterate OR on a pestilience and BS. I never seem to be able to use them for another Obli because at that time you only have about 5 more seconds remaining on your diseases and casting it Obli will cause me to miss the pestilience refresh. Because of that I reckon you never actually use your death runes for additional Obli, unless you have BT off cd, but rather only for popping UA without breaking rune synching. Am I seeing this right?
I think thats right! They key is to NOT use UA and BT at the same time outside of the opener. In the example below the runes in parens are the state of your runes after using the listed ability. lower case = cooldown. Start with BBffuu and ~7s on diseases # cycle 1, use BS/Pest together to convert Blood Runes to Death Runes BS (dBffuu) Pest (ddffuu) FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (ddFFUU) Oblit (ddfFuU) Oblit (ddffuu) FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DDffuu) # cycle 2, use UA/Pest together (reverts one Death Rune back to Blood Rune) UA (bDffuu) Pest (bdffuu) FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (bdFFUU) Oblit (bdfFuU) Oblit (bdffuu) FS/HB til Blood Runes up (BDffuu) # cycle 3, same as cycle #1 to convert Blood Runes to Death Runes again) BS (dBffuu) Pest (ddffuu) FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (ddFFUU) Oblit (ddfFuU) Oblit (ddffuu) FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DDffuu) # cycle 4, use Oblit/BT/Pest to get an extra Oblit Oblit (bbffuu) BT (Dbffuu) Pest (dbffuu) FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (dbFFUU) Oblit (dbfFuU) Oblit (dbffuu) FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DBffuu) So by splitting up UA and BT you can utilize your double death runes for an extra obliterate, and then use BT for a Pest to keep diseases up.
What’s the minimum expertise do we need because it seems expertise is more important than strength gemming then? I only have 12 expertise rating which is 61 expertise.
Also you are missing your ghoul. Should use with all your cds and lust because the ghoul snapshots those stats even when they fall off of you. Also your army of the dead benefits only from unholy presence so should use that before going back blood presence obviously pre pulling
@@joshkenck5427 Short answer: sim it. There is no "minimum" expertise. Expertise has a value depending on the rest of your gear. You neither need a minimum nor reach expertise cap in order to do a lot of dmg. I would never gem expertise as a Frost DK. Strength is always best as it scales with buffs and talents. Expertise does not.
Good vid. Short and simple. Something about your stat prio: Expertise is not nearly as important as it is for other melees. When our attacks miss we still get to keep our runes which is a HUGE advantage over the energy loss of a Rogue or the rage loss of a Warrior. We only lose a GCD. So expertise is important, but it's not at the top. You should've mentioned (as you absolutely correctly did later in the video) that you should always sim your char for the stats that are most important AT EACH MOMENT. Stat values change with every single new item you obtain. Hit loses value after the 5% (+3% from talent) style cap but is still not bad afterwards because of the white dmg and Killing Machine procs. Crit is very much desirable because of Guile of Gorefiend and in many cases better then expertise.
Love the video. When using the simulator, I'm noticing that the hit rating values seem extremely inflated. is this a known bug or something? is there a workaround?
You NEVER leave your runes off cd and with blood sub spec your blood rune (or death rune) will come off cooldown when your diseases still have about 6-7 seconds to tick. If you wait for them to fall off, you waste a lot of rune usage. I personally always use them as soon as they come off cooldown (if all the other four runes (2x unholy, 2x frost) are on cooldown). I always use my Blood Tap for Unbreakable Armor. I guess in theory you could use one of your death runes for Unbreakable Armor instead of Blood Strike and use Blood Tap for Pestilence after you used both death runes for another Obliterate as Metagoblin mentioned. I don't know about the exact numbers as this complicates the rotation and/or delays Unbreakable Armor usage which I don't like. I always use UA on cd using it together with Blood Tap.
Short answer: You should use Pestilence and directly afterwards Blood Strike so that both your consumed blood runes will come back as death runes which you can then use for another Obliterate. As Obliterate is your hardest hitting spell, you want that death runes and you want them together. Longer answer: If you play with blood sub spec, you won't be able to utilize these death runes on Obliterate as your diseases will nearly almost (except for the opener, more on that later) fall off before you can refresh them with another Pestilence. That means instead of being able to use your (bad) blood runes for refreshing diseases you will have to use 1 frost and 1 unholy rune to refresh them->loss of DPS. Long story short: If you play with blood sub spec you actually don't have to sync your blood runes as you will still use them separately to refresh your diseases and for one Blood Strike every time they come off cooldown. If you play with unholy sub spec (and have the Epidemic talent which makes your diseases tick longer) you absolutely want to use your blood runes together. So NEVER do something like this: Obliterate, Pestilence, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Blood Strike. You ALWAYS prioritize using your runes over runic power. If you don't use your blood runes together (so Pestilence followed by Blood Strike or the other way around) one of your blood runes (which will be death runes then) will be off cooldown for several seconds before you can use them together for another Obliterate. That's what "rune syncing" means. Little explanation on your opener as it won't change no matter which sub spec you are playing: 1) Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Tap, Unbreakable Armor, Obliterate, Pestilence. Now all your runes are on cooldown, your damage buff from Unbreakable Armor is up and both your blood runes are death runes. Which brings us to 2) Empower Rune Weapon (activating all your runes), Obliterate, Obliterate, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Frost Strike, Frost Strike. As you used Pestilence before Empower Rune Weapon, your diseases will still be up when your blood runes come off cooldown. This is the most damage possible as a frost DK during the start of a fight.
@@robertgleich7277 I'd agree with everything except with the opener you have little more freedom and time to weave a froststrike just before the 3rd Ob which allows you to not waste the runic power build up and you will still get the max amount of Obs off. This also gives you the chance of using a killing machine proc multiple times during the opener which can be very valuable and very juicy. This is better explained by Sarthe. Who I definitely recommend people watch since he is very informative especially when it comes to DKs.
I had a guy screaming in capslock at me about my elemental shaman build because it wasnt according to the guides. I was telling him Nova was the strongest possible leveling build to use in dungeons due to it being completely broken dps. He literally copy pasted a freakin guide from icyveins into the chat to prove that experts say a traditional lightning build was the only way to go. I ended up getting 45% of the parties damage and everyone was making fun of him so he rage quit the party lmao. Most those guides were written by 40 year old guys stuck in the old mentality of how to play and refuse to look at any other possible way. Just look at morb spec DK. People are literally getting pissed off about it being a thing, yet they are topping DK dps right now
I simmed my DK and the enchants on weapon are reversed. It shows razor ice on my off hand weap better and Fallen crusader on my main hand better. I tried ever combo in the world with my weaps and it still sims best this way, go figure.
@@MrWheelerDave it wasn't a normal question to begin with if you are able to read. There is It's also never a black and white answer but instead read and understand your abilities and you will figure it out yourself. It literally depends on the situation and that's for you to judge if you have common sense you will do just fine.
Same. I guess frost dk isnt top dmg in phase 1. We need armor pen and theres rarely any armor pen item. Only from nax. But I still couldnt get armor pen items to drop from nax. So I guess its a luck game 🤷
Nah, you want 2 slow weapon in your main and offhand 'cause frost dk finishers hit with BOTH weapons. So 2 x slow and hard hitter > 1 x slow mh and 1 x fast offhand. Even if the fast offhand is ilvl 213 vs ilvl 200.
@@rwndae Obliterate and Frost strike use both MH and OH weapon damage with the talent Threat of Tharissan. Slow weapon do more weapon damage. Example: 100-200 weapon damage with 2.0 speed vs 50-100 weapon damage and 1.0 speed. Both do the same dps, but for Obliterate + Frost Strike the slow OH contributes double the amount of damage compared to the fast weapon.
unholy morb spec is the highest dps right now, but theyre both neck n neck and really depend on the player because alot of people are just bad at rotations. frost will start ramping up to be better later on due to the gear that starts dropping in later raids. But for phase 1, either spec is amazing and will do insane dps
@@chaletamale so my case is a bit unique, Im lvling a DK in hardcore, and for proffs i got herb/inscription. so the trainer glyphs are available. Do you reckon frost or unholy is the best dps for me?
@@fredrikandersson3885 really depends on your playstyle. theyre almost equal in damage right now, so i would go with the one you find more fun. I personally think the rotation of frost is a lil more boring and it doesnt have the gargoyle nuke(which can be boosted by snapshotting all your buffs at once)
@@fredrikandersson3885 both should be dual wield. unholy has 2 different buffs that proc with auto attacks, so the more auto attacks the more damage buffs.
It's 164 hit (melee hit cap because of 3% in talents) going for more hit is going to be still beneficial for your melee hits + spell hit cap which is only 9%(289 hit rating) if talented virulence in unholy tree.
@@SavageGameHawk you do for unholy sub spec and the question was "what is the hit rating cap for a frost dk" which is technically only 164 for you melee abilities not to miss, you can go for spell hit cap which issnt 17% since you have to consider raid hit debuffs going for 17% just for yourself is not a good move just poor itemization. To be fair the question asked was also a bit to open to answer properly.
That is a false statement. You’d want razor on a fast OH, crusader procs more a slow weapon. I’m like an OJ parsing frost dk, by no means the best but hold my own dps against morbid and affliction locks 😊
morb spec rocks. I have both frost and unholy specs on my dual spec, and Unholy feels way better to play. im topping dps in naxx with auction house weapons, over DKs wearing naxx weapons. It completely depends on the players ability to keep a clean rotation. The biggest downfall with the frost spec ive noticed is the inability to attack when mobs move or you get cced. Because of this, you see big dips in dps while youre trying to close the gap, whereas unholy can continue to attack
frost shouldn't really work in northrend. I mean it's cold there, so everyone should be used to a bit of frost and this immune/resistant to frost attacks
yea the sim thing is dumb. im dual speccing frost and unholy, and the unholy performs way better. If you get even an inch out of mobs radius with frost, you lose insane amounts of dps due to the inability to attack. with unholy you have a bunch of options to still be attacking until you can get back in range. sims cannot account for enemy movement, enemy CC effects, or anything like that
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I noticed everyone who has no idea what they are talking about repeat the mantra "sim your character" they have no knowledge just repeat the mantra
What's wrong with simming?
@@makitahq It's not accurate
@@makitahq not the point, the fact that this is a 5min guide with barely any explanation except "sin your character" is the real problem. Helping people understand why things work the way they do and why they sim better is the point of a guide and not to just look at Wowhead and then create a pointless guide that does a worse Job than wowhead or icy does
"Our stat priority is Hit chance even over the cap". So once I'm hit and expertise capped, I should just keep getting as much hit as possible?
Where should i put my points when i reach 34 on the frost talents? Chilblains, Hungering Cold or Improved Frost Presence? Why they show as not marked in 0:35?
I think I might try respeccing into Frost! I've always been a Blood DK die-hard player, nothing more or else, but I think a nice change of scenery would be nice this go around 🥰
the way killing machines procs go, you can hit 3-5 huge crits in a row and it feels really good, especially w/ howling blast in aoe packs that die too fast for diseases/d&d to get their full durations
Blood is a useless DPS spec in WOTLK.
I can’t find your trailer to get to the macros spreadsheet
what is the hit cap? i get different answers from different sources
About the death run syncing while playing sub blood, your opening should be something like: IT > PS > Obl > BS > BS > BT > UA > (ghoul if BL and fallen crusader procced) > FS > FS > Obl > Obl > ... after this you probably have the choice to spend your death runes on another Obliterate OR on a pestilience and BS. I never seem to be able to use them for another Obli because at that time you only have about 5 more seconds remaining on your diseases and casting it Obli will cause me to miss the pestilience refresh. Because of that I reckon you never actually use your death runes for additional Obli, unless you have BT off cd, but rather only for popping UA without breaking rune synching. Am I seeing this right?
I think thats right! They key is to NOT use UA and BT at the same time outside of the opener. In the example below the runes in parens are the state of your runes after using the listed ability. lower case = cooldown.
Start with BBffuu and ~7s on diseases
# cycle 1, use BS/Pest together to convert Blood Runes to Death Runes
BS (dBffuu)
Pest (ddffuu)
FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (ddFFUU)
Oblit (ddfFuU)
Oblit (ddffuu)
FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DDffuu)
# cycle 2, use UA/Pest together (reverts one Death Rune back to Blood Rune)
UA (bDffuu)
Pest (bdffuu)
FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (bdFFUU)
Oblit (bdfFuU)
Oblit (bdffuu)
FS/HB til Blood Runes up (BDffuu)
# cycle 3, same as cycle #1 to convert Blood Runes to Death Runes again)
BS (dBffuu)
Pest (ddffuu)
FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (ddFFUU)
Oblit (ddfFuU)
Oblit (ddffuu)
FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DDffuu)
# cycle 4, use Oblit/BT/Pest to get an extra Oblit
Oblit (bbffuu)
BT (Dbffuu)
Pest (dbffuu)
FS/HB til Frost/Unholy Runes are up (dbFFUU)
Oblit (dbfFuU)
Oblit (dbffuu)
FS/HB til Blood Runes up (DBffuu)
So by splitting up UA and BT you can utilize your double death runes for an extra obliterate, and then use BT for a Pest to keep diseases up.
what do you mean with sim im a noob?
Which server is that?
Great video and I love the Witcher 3 music in it
Did you remove a video? was watching one and it just finished saying user removed.
"why? cause it sims best"
What’s the minimum expertise do we need because it seems expertise is more important than strength gemming then? I only have 12 expertise rating which is 61 expertise.
Also you are missing your ghoul. Should use with all your cds and lust because the ghoul snapshots those stats even when they fall off of you. Also your army of the dead benefits only from unholy presence so should use that before going back blood presence obviously pre pulling
@@joshkenck5427 Short answer: sim it. There is no "minimum" expertise. Expertise has a value depending on the rest of your gear. You neither need a minimum nor reach expertise cap in order to do a lot of dmg. I would never gem expertise as a Frost DK. Strength is always best as it scales with buffs and talents. Expertise does not.
Good vid. Short and simple.
Something about your stat prio:
Expertise is not nearly as important as it is for other melees. When our attacks miss we still get to keep our runes which is a HUGE advantage over the energy loss of a Rogue or the rage loss of a Warrior. We only lose a GCD. So expertise is important, but it's not at the top.
You should've mentioned (as you absolutely correctly did later in the video) that you should always sim your char for the stats that are most important AT EACH MOMENT. Stat values change with every single new item you obtain.
Hit loses value after the 5% (+3% from talent) style cap but is still not bad afterwards because of the white dmg and Killing Machine procs.
Crit is very much desirable because of Guile of Gorefiend and in many cases better then expertise.
Hey i saw your interface in the video: "Nobody Knows About This Insane Death Knight Trick!" how can i get that ?
Love the video. When using the simulator, I'm noticing that the hit rating values seem extremely inflated. is this a known bug or something? is there a workaround?
With refreshing diseases…do you wait til the very last second or two or can it be refreshed a little over half duration sometimes?
You NEVER leave your runes off cd and with blood sub spec your blood rune (or death rune) will come off cooldown when your diseases still have about 6-7 seconds to tick. If you wait for them to fall off, you waste a lot of rune usage. I personally always use them as soon as they come off cooldown (if all the other four runes (2x unholy, 2x frost) are on cooldown).
I always use my Blood Tap for Unbreakable Armor. I guess in theory you could use one of your death runes for Unbreakable Armor instead of Blood Strike and use Blood Tap for Pestilence after you used both death runes for another Obliterate as Metagoblin mentioned. I don't know about the exact numbers as this complicates the rotation and/or delays Unbreakable Armor usage which I don't like. I always use UA on cd using it together with Blood Tap.
Depends what sims best
@@3ndling538 brainlet answer
Hey, can you dive a little deeper into the "rune syncing" you mentioned? Appreciate your content!
Short answer: You should use Pestilence and directly afterwards Blood Strike so that both your consumed blood runes will come back as death runes which you can then use for another Obliterate. As Obliterate is your hardest hitting spell, you want that death runes and you want them together.
Longer answer: If you play with blood sub spec, you won't be able to utilize these death runes on Obliterate as your diseases will nearly almost (except for the opener, more on that later) fall off before you can refresh them with another Pestilence. That means instead of being able to use your (bad) blood runes for refreshing diseases you will have to use 1 frost and 1 unholy rune to refresh them->loss of DPS. Long story short: If you play with blood sub spec you actually don't have to sync your blood runes as you will still use them separately to refresh your diseases and for one Blood Strike every time they come off cooldown.
If you play with unholy sub spec (and have the Epidemic talent which makes your diseases tick longer) you absolutely want to use your blood runes together. So NEVER do something like this: Obliterate, Pestilence, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Blood Strike. You ALWAYS prioritize using your runes over runic power. If you don't use your blood runes together (so Pestilence followed by Blood Strike or the other way around) one of your blood runes (which will be death runes then) will be off cooldown for several seconds before you can use them together for another Obliterate. That's what "rune syncing" means.
Little explanation on your opener as it won't change no matter which sub spec you are playing:
1) Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Tap, Unbreakable Armor, Obliterate, Pestilence. Now all your runes are on cooldown, your damage buff from Unbreakable Armor is up and both your blood runes are death runes. Which brings us to
2) Empower Rune Weapon (activating all your runes), Obliterate, Obliterate, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Frost Strike, Frost Strike.
As you used Pestilence before Empower Rune Weapon, your diseases will still be up when your blood runes come off cooldown.
This is the most damage possible as a frost DK during the start of a fight.
@@robertgleich7277 damn man, that’s a deep explanation, really interesting thing, thank you!
@@robertgleich7277 I'd agree with everything except with the opener you have little more freedom and time to weave a froststrike just before the 3rd Ob which allows you to not waste the runic power build up and you will still get the max amount of Obs off. This also gives you the chance of using a killing machine proc multiple times during the opener which can be very valuable and very juicy. This is better explained by Sarthe. Who I definitely recommend people watch since he is very informative especially when it comes to DKs.
caps hit for dk prost pve pls?
The only person who makes the most accurate guide. Every other guide the people are nubs stuck in old ways. Thanks a bunch Goblin!!!!
I had a guy screaming in capslock at me about my elemental shaman build because it wasnt according to the guides. I was telling him Nova was the strongest possible leveling build to use in dungeons due to it being completely broken dps. He literally copy pasted a freakin guide from icyveins into the chat to prove that experts say a traditional lightning build was the only way to go. I ended up getting 45% of the parties damage and everyone was making fun of him so he rage quit the party lmao. Most those guides were written by 40 year old guys stuck in the old mentality of how to play and refuse to look at any other possible way. Just look at morb spec DK. People are literally getting pissed off about it being a thing, yet they are topping DK dps right now
quick and on point guide for my fav DK specc. Thanks Meta!
I simmed my DK and the enchants on weapon are reversed. It shows razor ice on my off hand weap better and Fallen crusader on my main hand better. I tried ever combo in the world with my weaps and it still sims best this way, go figure.
Why is it that according to sims i should be doing 6k dps? But I usually do 4k tops? I am following the rotation guide too so I dont understand.
Because sims perfect everything. Perfect rotation without raid mechanics so it always appears slightly higher.
@@MetaGoblin and should I be using blood presence for single target dps? And unholy for multi target? Its unclear for me which one is better.
@@MrWheelerDave read the tool tip of what it actually does and you will know more.
@@ricardopalomares5606 I know what the presences do I can read. Guess I cant get a normal answer for my question.
@@MrWheelerDave it wasn't a normal question to begin with if you are able to read. There is It's also never a black and white answer but instead read and understand your abilities and you will figure it out yourself. It literally depends on the situation and that's for you to judge if you have common sense you will do just fine.
What's the SCT addon you use?
The one that sims the best
Idk if I'm just bad, most likely but my logs for my 198 Ilvl I am under performing and I just don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Same. I guess frost dk isnt top dmg in phase 1. We need armor pen and theres rarely any armor pen item. Only from nax. But I still couldnt get armor pen items to drop from nax. So I guess its a luck game 🤷
@@MrWheelerDave idk im always top 5 in 25 raids
@@libra2054 yea I started raiding too and I was actually top dps thru out whole naxx, Guess i was bad about my dps being low.
Your rotation is probably a mess. If youre just mashing any button thats on cooldown, your dps will suffer
Hii, u can do blood dk guide??
What about 1.6sec random dropp sword naxx 25 is it usefull or better then the 2.7 as offhand?
Nah, you want 2 slow weapon in your main and offhand 'cause frost dk finishers hit with BOTH weapons. So 2 x slow and hard hitter > 1 x slow mh and 1 x fast offhand. Even if the fast offhand is ilvl 213 vs ilvl 200.
@@nissyenarts I Never played melee, can you explain a bit why having slow weapons matter on how hard your spells hit on the target?
@@rwndae Obliterate and Frost strike use both MH and OH weapon damage with the talent Threat of Tharissan.
Slow weapon do more weapon damage.
Example:
100-200 weapon damage with 2.0 speed
vs
50-100 weapon damage and 1.0 speed.
Both do the same dps, but for Obliterate + Frost Strike the slow OH contributes double the amount of damage compared to the fast weapon.
@@derfahnder88 yeah I found out about that, thanks for the answer tho.
Anyone else here after the Gary nerfs?
is frost better dps then unholy?
unholy morb spec is the highest dps right now, but theyre both neck n neck and really depend on the player because alot of people are just bad at rotations. frost will start ramping up to be better later on due to the gear that starts dropping in later raids. But for phase 1, either spec is amazing and will do insane dps
@@chaletamale so my case is a bit unique, Im lvling a DK in hardcore, and for proffs i got herb/inscription. so the trainer glyphs are available. Do you reckon frost or unholy is the best dps for me?
@@chaletamale and should both unholy and frost be dual weild or is it only frost that should be? and unholy 2h?
@@fredrikandersson3885 really depends on your playstyle. theyre almost equal in damage right now, so i would go with the one you find more fun. I personally think the rotation of frost is a lil more boring and it doesnt have the gargoyle nuke(which can be boosted by snapshotting all your buffs at once)
@@fredrikandersson3885 both should be dual wield. unholy has 2 different buffs that proc with auto attacks, so the more auto attacks the more damage buffs.
Love how no dk is going blood and that means no hysteria for me as a feral….. feels nice
@@HansCampbell My man's talking about missing his Hysteria...wtf are you on about? xD
Frost blood is still best during P1. Sims show frost blood is around 300dps higher than frost unholy.
I’m blood but hysteria is mine sry xD
@@HansCampbell ok but what about your dps in raid?
@@HansCampbell maybe a pally without cds
what is the hit rating cap for a frost dk
Soft cap 9 for dw
17% for spell hit
It's 164 hit (melee hit cap because of 3% in talents) going for more hit is going to be still beneficial for your melee hits + spell hit cap which is only 9%(289 hit rating) if talented virulence in unholy tree.
@@ricardopalomares5606 you don’t spec into that for frost… also spell hit cap is 17% homie
@@SavageGameHawk you do for unholy sub spec and the question was "what is the hit rating cap for a frost dk" which is technically only 164 for you melee abilities not to miss, you can go for spell hit cap which issnt 17% since you have to consider raid hit debuffs going for 17% just for yourself is not a good move just poor itemization.
To be fair the question asked was also a bit to open to answer properly.
This feels like deja vu
Arp>crit on icc patch
fast wep speed for offhand for fallen crusade = more procs
It's proc per minute based.
It's cause you want rune of razorice on main hand to get the stacks up faster
That is a false statement. You’d want razor on a fast OH, crusader procs more a slow weapon. I’m like an OJ parsing frost dk, by no means the best but hold my own dps against morbid and affliction locks 😊
Razorice gets applied not just by melee swings but also abilities. I'm agreeing with the guy in the video but just telling you why.
Razorice main hand. Fallen crusader offhand.
"it sims best"
...thanks.
Nice
Got my dk to 80 and despite what parses say frost is so much more fun that that shit ass morb spec.
morb spec rocks. I have both frost and unholy specs on my dual spec, and Unholy feels way better to play. im topping dps in naxx with auction house weapons, over DKs wearing naxx weapons. It completely depends on the players ability to keep a clean rotation. The biggest downfall with the frost spec ive noticed is the inability to attack when mobs move or you get cced. Because of this, you see big dips in dps while youre trying to close the gap, whereas unholy can continue to attack
@@chaletamale that’s a good point on the cc part. I just like seeing the big numbers on frost but yes morb spec is better in terms of dps
frost shouldn't really work in northrend. I mean it's cold there, so everyone should be used to a bit of frost and this immune/resistant to frost attacks
🤡
There is no Sub only video it's a scam!
yea cant find it either
Wait a minute
"It Sims Better" is the poorest and laziest explanation I've heard... Want to tell us why it sims better?
yea the sim thing is dumb. im dual speccing frost and unholy, and the unholy performs way better. If you get even an inch out of mobs radius with frost, you lose insane amounts of dps due to the inability to attack. with unholy you have a bunch of options to still be attacking until you can get back in range. sims cannot account for enemy movement, enemy CC effects, or anything like that
@@chaletamale Even with sims Morb is still the king of DK specs, all the way through ICC. There's a long in depth video about it by WhiteWolf
...but Frost is a mage spec :/