If only the waitress had secretly called the police, instead of saying something to the young lady.😔....Human trafficking is a horrible, horrible thing.😢
I totally thought the same thing. Really breaks my heart that the waitress chose to bluntly confront Tiffany in front of the group. Wish she would've called the cops or like others mentioned, got the license plate. Similar to the domestic violence event at a McDonald's recently, there should be crisis training on that sort of thing.
The waitress should have never went up to the girl and tell her she looks like a missing person. Especially because she herself said the older woman and the younger ones had a weird power dynamic between them. Just go in the kitchen and call the cops. Go out the back door when they leave and write down the plates. I don't get why she acted that way. Maybe she just made it all up.
Eve A. Restaurants, stores, motels, hotels, convenient stores, EVERYWHERE should save their footage for up to a year. Idk why they erase it after a month or even a week
I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began. The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often, and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing. I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues. Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
I was waitress and they gave us a course on human trafficking, the signs, what we should do etc . All those signs did point to trafficking and if this was true then that waitress messed up badly. I know sometimes it's hard to really focus on other details while you're waitressing as you're most likely multi-tasking at every possible minute but ahhh... we have to take in consideration what we say to strangers.
I am very impressed with your work for implementing those classes. That is actually some useful classes that may help. It beats OSHA videos all to crap lol
I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began. The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often, and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing. I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues. Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
I was born and raised in this area, and still live here. Sadly going "missing" in this area is very very dangerous because Pensacola is quite a dangerous city, Human trafficking if very very common. I hope and pray that she is found safely.
So, when the waitress mentioned the "missing girl from Pensacola," they all got up and LEFT... yeah, the older woman figured the waitress was going to call the police so they fled! I believe it was FOR SURE Tiffany! That's CRAZY!! I am so sorry for her family. I hope they get answers some day.
You'll never hear someone say "I knew they were going to kill themselves". When you hit that low of a point you do things out of character. It doesn't mean anything that she was reliable and cared so much about her family in a healthy mental state. When you've decided you're done nothing matters. Your goals don't matter, your family doesn't matter, and your plans don't matter. I HATE that people say someone wouldn't have killed themselves. That's why so many of us do. Because no one takes the signs seriously. It's important not to discount it in any situation. Suicidal people look just like everyone else.
Personally I see no reason to believe she killed herself but I absolutely agree with you, it bothers me when people say 'but she would never do that to her family, she loved them too much'. When you're feeling that low, you aren't thinking rationally. You might think your family would actually be better off with you gone even if that's not true at all.
No matching prints: "they never committed a crime before" I highly doubt that they simply weren't CAUGHT before is all.. I have a feeling that was her in the restaurant.. If only that waitress just called police. How reckless to say that like she did..what a shame :/
It's true about letting someone know where your going. I'm 62 and my Dad taught me to do as he did, this before cell phones or internet. He always would let someone know where he was going, be it a store owner he did business with or gas station, whatever, he would casually mention where he was headed. If he came up missing, there was a trail that could be followed. I will say these were people that he knew in a small town. I can see the down side of that with strangers and predators these days. But let someone know. With modern technology, it's easy.
I remember hearing about this when it happened - the police suspected/looked into Garry at first cos they thought it was odd an older guy living with a young girl, they thought something was going on etc...But truth was Garry was a father figure and friend to her, and as you said if not for him who knows how long it could of been until people realized something was wrong...More Garry's in this world please!
Exactly. Immediately when I found out about an older man living with her, my mind jumped to him being responsible. But police really didn’t think didn’t have any reason to look at him, and he seemed to be genuinely concerned
No. To this day, Gary had never agreed to speak to law enforcement or Tiffany's parents after his initial interview. He left the United States and has not been cooperative at all since his original interviews.
@@katypax Do a little research next time instead of trying to make it sound as if he had something to do with Tiffany's disappearance. Gary moved to Naples Italy in 2016 for work. He moved back to Pensicola and died in Dec of 2019.
Waitress’ need to be trained on how to handle situations such as kidnapping and human trafficking. If they suspect something they should keep a look out for the people and start installing security cameras outside. Or have signs in the bathroom saying word codes if the person is being a victim of human trafficking and kidnapping. And maybe start having menu items where a specific word is highlighted like if the person orders a burger and one of the highlighted words is pineapple and they add pineapple on the burger, the waitress would know what to do. And somewhere on the menu it could explain what the highlighted words mean.
Right.... but everyone at the table reads the menu... and the minute the person orders that underlined word they’ll all know what she’s saying.... that’s not secretive at all lol
That’s a good idea but then the perpetrator would see the code word also. So that may not be the answer. I was going to say maybe post it in the women’s bathroom but they may not see it before it’s too late...or not see it at all 🤔 who knows that the answer is but it’s definitely a good idea!
That's what the police are trained to not waitresses there job is to serve food and drinks. And do u no how much it cost for these searches I don't mean to sound horrible but it's true.
Where I do think that the waitress sighting is most credible (and it angers me that she watched them walk out and didn't go outside to get a plate number after suspecting it was tiffany), what about what she told her boss? She said she "needed to leave early to take care of some things". Was that an excuse because she needed a break from her job or did she really need to do something? Could she have been meeting someone at the beach? Greg said he heard her leaving the apartment "early" but it seemed like she would've had to go to work early anyway. What was she doing? Putting her bike in her car? Why would she need to get up that early? I don't know, I just feel like something is missing between that morning and getting to the beach that doesn't involve human trafficking.
I think it's a great idea that you talked about the preventive measures that a person could go through and the idea of making a full video of that sort of thing that would be awesome. And thank you for caring enough to make videos like this.
I watch all of your videos, and I have to say that this one is the best that you've done in my opinion. I think that you did an amazing job researching and explaining and I think that you're one of the best true-crime UA-camrs and it's only going to get better from here.
I like the seriousness of these episodes. You seem to really have a deep compassion for telling these stories. Thank you for doing this. Secondly, I've been on this case since late summer thanks to John Lordan and I think Steven Pacheco did this one too. The biggest clue I find is the fact that she had the power shut off so quickly after she went missing. Almost like there was some sort of premeditation involved. Like why did she do that? And so quickly? Usually you have to put that order in at least a week or two in advance. The utility company won't just come out the next day or the work order won't process that frickin' quick.
That is disgusting that the person asked for money for a possible confession. What kind of sick person does that? My heart goes out to Tiffany's family.
I was listening to this story not watching the video directly.. and realized I had a friend name tiffany living in Pensacola a few years back. And my heart stopped.i looked and for a brief second thought it was her. She was blonde. But it wasnt. This video made my heart sink to my stomach for only a few seconds and I cant shake the feeling
I live in Pensacola. For some reason this case has stuck with me. I assume because I’m from here and the fact that she just vanished and no one knows anything. It makes you sit your daughter down and go over safety measures etc. it’s scary i10 is a trafficking intersection. Just so awful and I hope by some miracle she is someday found safe and comes home!
Excellent representation as always, thank you. For me the fact that her day to day personal effects were found in her car, and the two unknown fingerprints it's likely that a third party is involved in her vanishing. For what means, that would be the thing if dis covered would lead to a likely direction for investigators. Sad whatever the case. Love from the UK
If it’s really human trafficking (which I think is) I hope she is found. I hope someone remembers her face and calls the police. They should check the south border, she might be in Mexico and being sold there too. If she’s dead they should check deserts and parks and the rough side of town, Maybe Vegas too. I pray for her family🙏🏽
This is a great video! Thank you for the wise safety suggestions. Human Trafficking is a terrifying threat to pretty much any human. Gender, age, size, ethnic, color, religion, language, intelligence or ignorance, attractive appearance or unattractive. However young women, men & children are most Sought after. Trafficking abductors are well trained, practiced & develop swift, fail proof tactics for abducting “product” people for profit. Unfortunately the demand is high & supply is low making the job of abductors challenging. Human trafficking crimes has surpassed drug trafficking crimes. It’s the darkest crime known to civilization in my opinion. BEWARE! Protect yourselves & your children.
It’s so true...I live in AZ and I love hiking but I don’t want to leave unless I have my knife with me. Really sad that we can’t just enjoy things without having to worry about being hurt all the time.
@@RachelShannon absolutely, this is a real problem the world over, females are always going to be victims of male abuse and terror, its very sad, even with emancipation nothing has really changed, in fact i think women and children are more in danger from men today than they ever were!!
Human trafficking is huge in Florida. I used to work at a resort and we were taught what to look for and what to do if we suspected if we came across a victim. Now I live in rural Florida and I’ve been seeing so many campaigns to make aware of the signs and give resources to report suspected trafficking, so it is not just in the main tourism areas here. I honestly think that’s the most logical thing that could’ve happened to this poor girl.
Monty Python fan, here. Spamalot is a stage production, based on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, not the other way around. Sorry to nitpick. Love your videos!
How on Earth is a waitress going to say that she looks like a missing person, sees them leave immediately after but doesn't save the tape from the encounter???? Too late by the time the tip came in and the footage was deleted? Idk seems shady. If you see something, say something IMMEDIATELY!! That goes with literally any crime. If you're raped, don't wait. Tell immediately. If you see someone in danger, tell someone immediately. The worst thing that could happen is they find out that there was no danger.
Hannah ☀️ The waitress should’ve been smart & called the cops in immediately. I don’t know why this woman would even think of saying what she said... So dumb...the captors could’ve killed Tiffany for that. Though I really hope she is still alive...
@Somebresome idk if the waitress was lying or not, but the longer you wait to report things, the less credible it becomes. It truly is hard to believe that she thought she saw missing woman and would so blatantly out her to her possible captors. But I guess not everyone watches true crime enough to know how to conduct themselves.
hi, as a rape victim and someone who agrees we should act more quickly about the trauma that happens, but it is a lot harder to speak up when something that traumatic happens. i got raped my sophomore yr of highschool and i would be a junior in college now, i have never told anyone in my family or law enforcement about my assault because i had not processed any of it until very very recently. please be more respectful.
Thanks for all your content. You work very hard. These cases are so important to keep on peoples minds. And girl, those round eyes and your eyeshadow(that light shimmery lid especially) are perfection. Yas, queen.
A lot of people who are suicidal still do and plan things, and can even seem excited about somethings. People really struggling with it will try to find reasons not to, "maybe if i have this to look forward to/maybe if i have this to focus on", but eventually the suicidal thoughts might win. Whenever I read 'they were making plans and seemed excited for them' it gets me because not many people 100% decide to kill themselves and then just...keep living life for a few weeks first, knowing they're going to end their lives. Its usually more of a "thats it, im doing it" thing. They'll _consider_ it for a long time, but not 100% make the decision and then wait a few weeks.
I love you and your videos I can’t believe you don’t have way more subscribers!! Not like that’s the important part or anything but you’re one of my favorite true crime you tubers! Love your videos!
Writing this at minute 13: if she was gone for a week before being reported missing, and Grey isn't involved, wouldn't he have reached out to her family to ask about her during that week? Did his phone records show he was trying to get in touch with her? Was he asked when the last time he spoke to her was?
Great video, Rachel : ) I love the longer cases you do, like this one. So, human trafficking? I believe that's what sadly happened here with Tiffany. Sitting here thinking of the group of people that traffickers cater to and how disgusting they truly are. Great detailed case.
I'm not too sure about Pensacola but I imagine it is similar to the area I live in FL, and unless in hospitality or tourism, most jobs for locals are in telemarketing. Due to this, all ages tend to work at them and a lot of younger people seek out older roommates from work because it is also a very transient state and younger people often leave, get hooked on opioids, or just don't want to work. Older roommates are more rooted in the area and are more responsible.
Rodney is not Tiffany’s father at all. Rather he is the father of her half sister, Angela. His wife is no relation to Tiffany. Tiffany had a thing for controlling men, a farmer she worked for saw what was coming - he looked into the middle distance & said to me: “she is like a butterfly in a tornado & I fear for what will become of her.” She had the purest heart I’ve ever met.
I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began. The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them even noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing. I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues. Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
I agree with your main theory. The amount of sightings and the specific details that match up... sadly I think trafficking is very likely in this case. She likely isnt alive anymore.
@@meesh11p not always, sometimes they die from the circumstances they're in, I.e drug overdose or as disgusting as it sounds they can literally be 'sexed' to death, if they're given to a john that likes to beat his victims or be rough to them to the point a broken pelvis can lead to death
@@cammey3 ??????🤷🏼♀️🙏😱🤯🤞🏼👎💔that sounds crazy but sadly couple happen im sure but i prey this did not happen to this sweet girl🙏idk what happened 2 her or if shes alive or not but it is just such a scary thing and i can't imagine what her family and friends have gone through and mostly poor tiffany???😥😫😭😩🙌✌
I live here. Their are sooo many tourists from all over the United States. It’s easy for foul play to happen. I NEVER go to the beach alone. I’ve heard too many awful stories of people going missing. All the person who committed the crime would have to do is get in their car and leave. No one would think a thing about it. I don’t even notice people because of all the tourists. I moved to the Destin area in the 80’s and was told NEVER go to the beach alone. A young girl was murdered in the sand dunes and no one was ever caught. There was a hit and run that killed somebody on HWY 98 in front of a busy water park. People were everywhere. The driver took off and has never been caught. A person can go missing and be anywhere in a short amount of time. Many murderers have come through the area. Remember Ted Bundy was caught here. I don’t think she was a victim of human trafficking. I believe she was abducted, raped and murdered. Her body could be anywhere. Many tourists get drunk and fight. No one would think twice about seeing something like this in a parking lot.
It's horrible how some people will try to take advantage of these families that are already going through the worst thing in their lives! That's so disgusting! Unfortunately, I think this is a human trafficking case. That's so scary! Everyone needs to protect their selves!
You do such a great job I don’t want to say anything. No fingerprints in the system do not mean someone hasn’t committed a crime. It means they haven’t been caught yet 🙂
The lack of fingerprints in the system doesn't mean that the person they belong to never committed a crime before. Only that they hadn't been caught and entered into the database.
Excellent presentation on the case. Unfortunately I don’t think she’s alive any longer. She either met with foul play or was taken into human trafficking. So sad. I hope one day her family is able to get some answers.
I enjoy your videos so so much!!! Thank you for all your hard work What a beautiful girl. I have seen this case before... did you see or tear anything about her boss? For some reason, I thought I heard that they were looking at her employer. Also, when she went home, the day she disappeared, how did they know she really went home? I missed that. If the room mate harmed her, he could have driven her car and parked it....
I swear I saw an ID episode about this but the roommate was guilty. Dad like guy who was in love with her. Might be an identical case or mandela effect
So as much as I love your content I do have to say, Monty Python and the Holy Grail is the movie. Spamalot is the broadway musical based on the movie. Lol kids these days man.
Rachel, I'm wondering if the waitress in New Orleans saw what kind of vehicle the 4 women got in when they left the restaurant and reported that information to police. It could help.
Ur awesome Rachel! I really love these stories (true stories) and although I haven't faced much in my life in terms of the legal system....they are truly humbling and unforgettable. Thank you... Counting my blessings and sending love out to the families of these tragedies.
Tiffany would have still been somewhat intoxicated when she was taken. I do find it strange someone doesn't wake up to a scuffle and when the cops knock on the door! Its all strange!
I don't know if she was the one who dropped off her car. If she wasn't then someone else besides the person who drove it there had to be involved so they could pick him up. I think it could have been someone she knew. I wonder if they took any DNA along with the finger print in the car. Did they try to match the finger print with room mate or the boyfriend? So many questions with this case.
My uncle has me on his find a friend and can see my location any time. He checks in the morning and night to make sure I’m safe. When my last phone broke I was without a phone for a couple days and he sent my mom over to see if I was okay, they had my cousin check my Facebook activity to see when I was last online. A little bit overkill but I appreciated it. If I went missing I’d be glad for it. In this case I think human trafficking is the likeliest situation 🙁 but it enrages me the way that waitress acted if that restaurant was a real sighting. I hope we get to the bottom of this for her family.
I don't believe that she was taken for Human trafficking at 25 years old but then again anything is possible. When did the 54-year-old man move in did she start acting weird before that or at the same time? 🤔😔
I seriously dont want to be another person to say "oh i seen her!" But i SWEAR this woman looks familiar. I live in WV and i swear ive seen her in person. Idk maybe i didnt and i just think i did. I will keep my eye out. Im always trying to pay attention to people now after watching and listening to missing persons/ wanted people cases. The person that i remember seeing did do drugs tho. I didnt hang with that person very much due to not wanting to be involved with drugs. But yeh idk. It could be someone who looks like her.
not really related to the case but just gotta put in here that spamalot is a musical and not a movie. the musical is hilarious and one of my favorites so i definitely recommend theatre kids go see it if u can
I don't think she was trafficked or ran away, I think it's been right under their noses this whole time, I think she was murdered that same day, in the town she was living and her body just hasn't been found, I tell you why, traffickers dont tend to take people that will have someone looking for them, that will bring attention to the media, someone that has noone to look for them, most have a code of conduct ironically, they dont take mothers and generally stalk their victims lives or approach them in bars ect and ask questions and insert themselves in their lives, unless someone new was in her live then I dont believe she was trafficked, they literally dont just snatch people off the street because they have no idea who they're taking, they target vulnerable women and young girls.
cammey3 I don’t think that’s true at all about traffickers not taking people who will have someone looking for them...while the majority of those trafficked are runaways or homeless, it’s not because no one will notice or be looking, but because they’re easily coerced to go with a stranger and they lack a supportive network so they look for it elsewhere. Another big target is young women who are living away from home for the first time, as in university co-eds or young women looking for job opportunities are extremely vulnerable so Tiffany was actually the perfect candidate because she didn’t have her family with her.
Traffickers will scoop up the quickest and easiest prey available. They have no idea nor do they care if the family will look for them. It’s about the time & place, easy access, grab & go. You have no idea of what you’re talking about as far as who traffickers abduct. It’s not about the people. It’s about a human product period!
Id bet The roommate did something the night before and she went home told him shed be gone for a week and that he needed to get out. He likely didn't want his daughter or girlfriend to know. Plus think he was concerned to early.
Hello and Happy New year lovely! I really enjoy your channel and appreciate the compassion and hard work you put in! Thank you!! Im wondering ig it possible to increase the audio a little please? While listening on to my phone it is quite soft xxx
If only the waitress had secretly called the police, instead of saying something to the young lady.😔....Human trafficking is a horrible, horrible thing.😢
So true
right? maybe even just watch what car they go in, details license plate etc then called the cops🤔it’s weird
I totally thought the same thing. Really breaks my heart that the waitress chose to bluntly confront Tiffany in front of the group. Wish she would've called the cops or like others mentioned, got the license plate. Similar to the domestic violence event at a McDonald's recently, there should be crisis training on that sort of thing.
JUST*PASSING* THRU I agree. If we see something we should say something.
iwantmockolate XOXO I know, she probably wasn’t sure and I bet she blames her self daily.
The waitress should have never went up to the girl and tell her she looks like a missing person. Especially because she herself said the older woman and the younger ones had a weird power dynamic between them. Just go in the kitchen and call the cops. Go out the back door when they leave and write down the plates. I don't get why she acted that way. Maybe she just made it all up.
@@Vexarax exactly!
Eve A. Restaurants, stores, motels, hotels, convenient stores, EVERYWHERE should save their footage for up to a year. Idk why they erase it after a month or even a week
Everyone knows exactly what they would do in every situation that they've never been in. Smh.
I thought that maybe she made it up too but when I heard about fish v chicken broth, there’s no way she would’ve known that
People don't realize that human trafficking happens daily, it's more casual than people think. It's not always like the movie Taken.
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I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began.
The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often, and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing.
I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues.
Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
I was waitress and they gave us a course on human trafficking, the signs, what we should do etc . All those signs did point to trafficking and if this was true then that waitress messed up badly.
I know sometimes it's hard to really focus on other details while you're waitressing as you're most likely multi-tasking at every possible minute but ahhh... we have to take in consideration what we say to strangers.
I never heard of a restaurant giving human trafficking courses.
I am very impressed with your work for implementing those classes. That is actually some useful classes that may help. It beats OSHA videos all to crap lol
That’s amazing!
I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began.
The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often, and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing.
I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues.
Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
It bothers me that the waitress told the lady that she looked like a missing person. I wonder what she expected to happen after she said that
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I normally don't believe tips but I 100% wholeheartedly believe the sighting at the restaurant was her.
I was born and raised in this area, and still live here. Sadly going "missing" in this area is very very dangerous because Pensacola is quite a dangerous city, Human trafficking if very very common. I hope and pray that she is found safely.
So, when the waitress mentioned the "missing girl from Pensacola," they all got up and LEFT... yeah, the older woman figured the waitress was going to call the police so they fled! I believe it was FOR SURE Tiffany! That's CRAZY!! I am so sorry for her family. I hope they get answers some day.
The whole chicken vs. fish broth... Definitely makes me think it’s human trafficking. And the $3k demand is definitely sketchy.
I had classes in Tiffany's art building. She is a beautiful person. I really hope she's found.
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You'll never hear someone say "I knew they were going to kill themselves". When you hit that low of a point you do things out of character. It doesn't mean anything that she was reliable and cared so much about her family in a healthy mental state. When you've decided you're done nothing matters. Your goals don't matter, your family doesn't matter, and your plans don't matter. I HATE that people say someone wouldn't have killed themselves. That's why so many of us do. Because no one takes the signs seriously. It's important not to discount it in any situation. Suicidal people look just like everyone else.
☝️ This.
She didn't kill herself. Very few people do it in a way that they disappear, especially young women.
Personally I see no reason to believe she killed herself but I absolutely agree with you, it bothers me when people say 'but she would never do that to her family, she loved them too much'. When you're feeling that low, you aren't thinking rationally. You might think your family would actually be better off with you gone even if that's not true at all.
True, “they will be better off without me!” is common with depression… I don’t think that’s what happened in this sad case though. 😔😢😔
No matching prints: "they never committed a crime before"
I highly doubt that they simply weren't CAUGHT before is all..
I have a feeling that was her in the restaurant..
If only that waitress just called police. How reckless to say that like she did..what a shame :/
It's true about letting someone know where your going. I'm 62 and my Dad taught me to do as he did, this before cell phones or internet. He always would let someone know where he was going, be it a store owner he did business with or gas station, whatever, he would casually mention where he was headed. If he came up missing, there was a trail that could be followed. I will say these were people that he knew in a small town. I can see the down side of that with strangers and predators these days. But let someone know. With modern technology, it's easy.
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Hi Rachel, I'm with the Klaas Kids Foundation, thank you for covering this case and others ❤
Thank you so much for all that your organization has done
I remember hearing about this when it happened - the police suspected/looked into Garry at first cos they thought it was odd an older guy living with a young girl, they thought something was going on etc...But truth was Garry was a father figure and friend to her, and as you said if not for him who knows how long it could of been until people realized something was wrong...More Garry's in this world please!
Exactly. Immediately when I found out about an older man living with her, my mind jumped to him being responsible. But police really didn’t think didn’t have any reason to look at him, and he seemed to be genuinely concerned
No. To this day, Gary had never agreed to speak to law enforcement or Tiffany's parents after his initial interview. He
left the United States and has not been cooperative at all since his original interviews.
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@@katypax Do a little research next time instead of trying to make it sound as if he had something to do with Tiffany's disappearance. Gary moved to Naples Italy in 2016 for work. He moved back to Pensicola and died in Dec of 2019.
Awww, we call our thirteen-year-old son a "butterfly chaser," as well. It's a free-spirit thing!
Waitress’ need to be trained on how to handle situations such as kidnapping and human trafficking. If they suspect something they should keep a look out for the people and start installing security cameras outside. Or have signs in the bathroom saying word codes if the person is being a victim of human trafficking and kidnapping. And maybe start having menu items where a specific word is highlighted like if the person orders a burger and one of the highlighted words is pineapple and they add pineapple on the burger, the waitress would know what to do. And somewhere on the menu it could explain what the highlighted words mean.
Right.... but everyone at the table reads the menu... and the minute the person orders that underlined word they’ll all know what she’s saying.... that’s not secretive at all lol
Magnificent idea
That’s a good idea but then the perpetrator would see the code word also. So that may not be the answer. I was going to say maybe post it in the women’s bathroom but they may not see it before it’s too late...or not see it at all 🤔 who knows that the answer is but it’s definitely a good idea!
That's what the police are trained to not waitresses there job is to serve food and drinks. And do u no how much it cost for these searches I don't mean to sound horrible but it's true.
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Where I do think that the waitress sighting is most credible (and it angers me that she watched them walk out and didn't go outside to get a plate number after suspecting it was tiffany), what about what she told her boss? She said she "needed to leave early to take care of some things". Was that an excuse because she needed a break from her job or did she really need to do something? Could she have been meeting someone at the beach? Greg said he heard her leaving the apartment "early" but it seemed like she would've had to go to work early anyway. What was she doing? Putting her bike in her car? Why would she need to get up that early?
I don't know, I just feel like something is missing between that morning and getting to the beach that doesn't involve human trafficking.
I think it's a great idea that you talked about the preventive measures that a person could go through and the idea of making a full video of that sort of thing that would be awesome.
And thank you for caring enough to make videos like this.
I watch all of your videos, and I have to say that this one is the best that you've done in my opinion. I think that you did an amazing job researching and explaining and I think that you're one of the best true-crime UA-camrs and it's only going to get better from here.
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I like the seriousness of these episodes. You seem to really have a deep compassion for telling these stories. Thank you for doing this.
Secondly, I've been on this case since late summer thanks to John Lordan and I think Steven Pacheco did this one too.
The biggest clue I find is the fact that she had the power shut off so quickly after she went missing. Almost like there was some sort of premeditation involved. Like why did she do that? And so quickly? Usually you have to put that order in at least a week or two in advance. The utility company won't just come out the next day or the work order won't process that frickin' quick.
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That is disgusting that the person asked for money for a possible confession. What kind of sick person does that? My heart goes out to Tiffany's family.
I was listening to this story not watching the video directly.. and realized I had a friend name tiffany living in Pensacola a few years back. And my heart stopped.i looked and for a brief second thought it was her. She was blonde. But it wasnt. This video made my heart sink to my stomach for only a few seconds and I cant shake the feeling
I grew up in Pensacola and went to Pensacola State. This has been scary for the community.
I live in Pensacola. For some reason this case has stuck with me. I assume because I’m from here and the fact that she just vanished and no one knows anything. It makes you sit your daughter down and go over safety measures etc. it’s scary i10 is a trafficking intersection. Just so awful and I hope by some miracle she is someday found safe and comes home!
Your videos have gotten me through deep cleaning my house. Love listening
The world needs more Tiffanys , she was so alive !!!!
Parts of this remind me of the Maura Murray case.
Leaving school/work early due to a family emergency, which the family denied.
Car found abandoned
I thought the same!
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Don’t know how you don’t already have 100k+ subscribers! Thanks for another great and detailed video.
Excellent representation as always, thank you. For me the fact that her day to day personal effects were found in her car, and the two unknown fingerprints it's likely that a third party is involved in her vanishing. For what means, that would be the thing if dis covered would lead to a likely direction for investigators. Sad whatever the case. Love from the UK
If it’s really human trafficking (which I think is) I hope she is found. I hope someone remembers her face and calls the police. They should check the south border, she might be in Mexico and being sold there too. If she’s dead they should check deserts and parks and the rough side of town, Maybe Vegas too. I pray for her family🙏🏽
Rachel i agree with your main theory i hope one day Tiffany is reunited with her family have a great 2020
This is a great video! Thank you for the wise safety suggestions. Human Trafficking is a terrifying threat to pretty much any human. Gender, age, size, ethnic, color, religion, language, intelligence or ignorance, attractive appearance or unattractive. However young women, men & children are most Sought after. Trafficking abductors are well trained, practiced & develop swift, fail proof tactics for abducting “product” people for profit. Unfortunately the demand is high & supply is low making the job of abductors challenging. Human trafficking crimes has surpassed drug trafficking crimes. It’s the darkest crime known to civilization in my opinion. BEWARE! Protect yourselves & your children.
Makes me sick a woman can’t go out & live life. We need to carry weapons & learn Krav Magna to go on a hike.
It’s so true...I live in AZ and I love hiking but I don’t want to leave unless I have my knife with me. Really sad that we can’t just enjoy things without having to worry about being hurt all the time.
Rachel Shannon it really is :(
@@RachelShannon absolutely, this is a real problem the world over, females are always going to be victims of male abuse and terror, its very sad, even with emancipation nothing has really changed, in fact i think women and children are more in danger from men today than they ever were!!
Oh wow... I'm from Pensacola and I remember this. So sad... :(
Gosh. That’s diner tip gives me the chills. Seems super credible. Wow. Goosebumps. 😭😭😭 so incredibly sad
Human trafficking is huge in Florida. I used to work at a resort and we were taught what to look for and what to do if we suspected if we came across a victim. Now I live in rural Florida and I’ve been seeing so many campaigns to make aware of the signs and give resources to report suspected trafficking, so it is not just in the main tourism areas here. I honestly think that’s the most logical thing that could’ve happened to this poor girl.
Monty Python fan, here. Spamalot is a stage production, based on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, not the other way around. Sorry to nitpick. Love your videos!
How on Earth is a waitress going to say that she looks like a missing person, sees them leave immediately after but doesn't save the tape from the encounter???? Too late by the time the tip came in and the footage was deleted? Idk seems shady.
If you see something, say something IMMEDIATELY!! That goes with literally any crime. If you're raped, don't wait. Tell immediately. If you see someone in danger, tell someone immediately.
The worst thing that could happen is they find out that there was no danger.
Totally agree. I have no idea why the waitress waited so long
Hannah ☀️ The waitress should’ve been smart & called the cops in immediately. I don’t know why this woman would even think of saying what she said... So dumb...the captors could’ve killed Tiffany for that. Though I really hope she is still alive...
Somebresome Yes, but if you think you just saw a missing woman, you’d find a minute to call the cops...it’s an emergency, after all.
@Somebresome idk if the waitress was lying or not, but the longer you wait to report things, the less credible it becomes. It truly is hard to believe that she thought she saw missing woman and would so blatantly out her to her possible captors. But I guess not everyone watches true crime enough to know how to conduct themselves.
hi, as a rape victim and someone who agrees we should act more quickly about the trauma that happens, but it is a lot harder to speak up when something that traumatic happens. i got raped my sophomore yr of highschool and i would be a junior in college now, i have never told anyone in my family or law enforcement about my assault because i had not processed any of it until very very recently. please be more respectful.
Thank you so much for all your hard work 🙃
Thanks for all your content. You work very hard. These cases are so important to keep on peoples minds. And girl, those round eyes and your eyeshadow(that light shimmery lid especially) are perfection. Yas, queen.
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A lot of people who are suicidal still do and plan things, and can even seem excited about somethings. People really struggling with it will try to find reasons not to, "maybe if i have this to look forward to/maybe if i have this to focus on", but eventually the suicidal thoughts might win. Whenever I read 'they were making plans and seemed excited for them' it gets me because not many people 100% decide to kill themselves and then just...keep living life for a few weeks first, knowing they're going to end their lives. Its usually more of a "thats it, im doing it" thing. They'll _consider_ it for a long time, but not 100% make the decision and then wait a few weeks.
There's absolutely no evidence of suicide and women never commit suicide in this kind of manner with no notice.
I love you and your videos I can’t believe you don’t have way more subscribers!! Not like that’s the important part or anything but you’re one of my favorite true crime you tubers! Love your videos!
Writing this at minute 13:
if she was gone for a week before being reported missing, and Grey isn't involved, wouldn't he have reached out to her family to ask about her during that week? Did his phone records show he was trying to get in touch with her? Was he asked when the last time he spoke to her was?
That’s what I was wondering.
That are true victims . Thank you Tiffany, for being ting awareness to this situation. It’s sooo tender.
Just came across your videos and I think you do AMAZING videos ! Really good work
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Great video, Rachel : ) I love the longer cases you do, like this one. So, human trafficking? I believe that's what sadly happened here with Tiffany. Sitting here thinking of the group of people that traffickers cater to and how disgusting they truly are. Great detailed case.
Yaaaassss! Just as I refreshed looking for a new video to watch!
Thanks for the great coverage 👍
I'm not too sure about Pensacola but I imagine it is similar to the area I live in FL, and unless in hospitality or tourism, most jobs for locals are in telemarketing. Due to this, all ages tend to work at them and a lot of younger people seek out older roommates from work because it is also a very transient state and younger people often leave, get hooked on opioids, or just don't want to work. Older roommates are more rooted in the area and are more responsible.
She knew the man’s daughter that’s why he lived there.
Rodney is not Tiffany’s father at all. Rather he is the father of her half sister, Angela. His wife is no relation to Tiffany.
Tiffany had a thing for controlling men, a farmer she worked for saw what was coming - he looked into the middle distance & said to me: “she is like a butterfly in a tornado & I fear for what will become of her.” She had the purest heart I’ve ever met.
So glad I found your channel! I’m all caught up on other true crime you tubers and just discovered you 😍
You do a great job covering these cases!
Thank you!
I was held in captivity and trafficked by my “owner” for two years. He killed himself last December as soon as the investigation into him began.
The sighting of Tiffany in a restaurant rings true to me. My captor took me in public often and I spoke with hundreds of people during the time I was with him, but none of them even noticed anything was wrong. He seemed to love showing me off and got off on controlling me in public without anyone noticing. I have several disabilities due to a genetic disorder, which cause a multitude of medical issues. Unfortunately, this made it much easier for him to prey on me. Whenever any signs of abuse were noticed (because I did often have physical injuries) he was able to explain it away as part of my medical issues. Usually in public he spoke for me, especially in situations like a restaurant, where he always ordered for me. The trafficking theory sounds very plausible to me in this case, and the sighting in the restaurant also fits in with my personal experience as a trafficking victim.
I agree with your main theory. The amount of sightings and the specific details that match up... sadly I think trafficking is very likely in this case. She likely isnt alive anymore.
meesh11p if she was trafficked why would she be dead? She’d be alive and being used. That’s the whole point.
@@Booooberrie After they're used they are killed. I would think they would have killed her by now. I could be wrong.
@@meesh11p not always, sometimes they die from the circumstances they're in, I.e drug overdose or as disgusting as it sounds they can literally be 'sexed' to death, if they're given to a john that likes to beat his victims or be rough to them to the point a broken pelvis can lead to death
@@cammey3 ??????🤷🏼♀️🙏😱🤯🤞🏼👎💔that sounds crazy but sadly couple happen im sure but i prey this did not happen to this sweet girl🙏idk what happened 2 her or if shes alive or not but it is just such a scary thing and i can't imagine what her family and friends have gone through and mostly poor tiffany???😥😫😭😩🙌✌
@@sheridennis641 its absolutely horrible what these girls being trafficked can be put through, I cant imagine the suffering they go through
Great video, good explaining and getting to the point. Well done.
I live here. Their are sooo many tourists from all over the United States. It’s easy for foul play to happen. I NEVER go to the beach alone. I’ve heard too many awful stories of people going missing. All the person who committed the crime would have to do is get in their car and leave. No one would think a thing about it. I don’t even notice people because of all the tourists.
I moved to the Destin area in the 80’s and was told NEVER go to the beach alone. A young girl was murdered in the sand dunes and no one was ever caught.
There was a hit and run that killed somebody on HWY 98 in front of a busy water park. People were everywhere. The driver took off and has never been caught.
A person can go missing and be anywhere in a short amount of time. Many murderers have come through the area. Remember Ted Bundy was caught here.
I don’t think she was a victim of human trafficking. I believe she was abducted, raped and murdered. Her body could be anywhere.
Many tourists get drunk and fight. No one would think twice about seeing something like this in a parking lot.
It's horrible how some people will try to take advantage of these families that are already going through the worst thing in their lives! That's so disgusting! Unfortunately, I think this is a human trafficking case. That's so scary! Everyone needs to protect their selves!
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You do such a great job I don’t want to say anything. No fingerprints in the system do not mean someone hasn’t committed a crime. It means they haven’t been caught yet 🙂
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The lack of fingerprints in the system doesn't mean that the person they belong to never committed a crime before. Only that they hadn't been caught and entered into the database.
Excellent presentation on the case. Unfortunately I don’t think she’s alive any longer. She either met with foul play or was taken into human trafficking. So sad. I hope one day her family is able to get some answers.
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What a beautiful girl. I have seen this case before... did you see or tear anything about her boss? For some reason, I thought I heard that they were looking at her employer. Also, when she went home, the day she disappeared, how did they know she really went home? I missed that. If the room mate harmed her, he could have driven her car and parked it....
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This is so sad. I pray she’s alive. Also it’s called Met-uh-ree Louisiana. Born and raised in La.
I swear I saw an ID episode about this but the roommate was guilty. Dad like guy who was in love with her. Might be an identical case or mandela effect
Weird. Swear I watched the same one 😅
That's gonna be Jamie Fraley.
thanks for uploading this was a great video and i agree with your conclusion
So as much as I love your content I do have to say, Monty Python and the Holy Grail is the movie. Spamalot is the broadway musical based on the movie. Lol kids these days man.
Tiffany would definitely care that you pointed this out I promise 💜
Your eyeshadow is fab! What palette did you use?
Rachel, I'm wondering if the waitress in New Orleans saw what kind of vehicle the 4 women got in when they left the restaurant and reported that information to police. It could help.
I had seen her missing documentary on history tv 18 or nat geo.. i dont remember.
Ur awesome Rachel! I really love these stories (true stories) and although I haven't faced much in my life in terms of the legal system....they are truly humbling and unforgettable. Thank you... Counting my blessings and sending love out to the families of these tragedies.
Tiffany would have still been somewhat intoxicated when she was taken. I do find it strange someone doesn't wake up to a scuffle and when the cops knock on the door! Its all strange!
I don't know if she was the one who dropped off her car. If she wasn't then someone else besides the person who drove it there had to be involved so they could pick him up. I think it could have been someone she knew. I wonder if they took any DNA along with the finger print in the car. Did they try to match the finger print with room mate or the boyfriend? So many questions with this case.
My uncle has me on his find a friend and can see my location any time. He checks in the morning and night to make sure I’m safe. When my last phone broke I was without a phone for a couple days and he sent my mom over to see if I was okay, they had my cousin check my Facebook activity to see when I was last online. A little bit overkill but I appreciated it. If I went missing I’d be glad for it.
In this case I think human trafficking is the likeliest situation 🙁 but it enrages me the way that waitress acted if that restaurant was a real sighting. I hope we get to the bottom of this for her family.
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This is off topic, but I saw your channel on a video you Madeleine I forgot the name, but your nails are really nice :)
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I don't believe that she was taken for Human trafficking at 25 years old but then again anything is possible. When did the 54-year-old man move in did she start acting weird before that or at the same time? 🤔😔
Spamalot was based on Monty Python and the Holy Grail, not the other way around.
I seriously dont want to be another person to say "oh i seen her!" But i SWEAR this woman looks familiar. I live in WV and i swear ive seen her in person. Idk maybe i didnt and i just think i did. I will keep my eye out. Im always trying to pay attention to people now after watching and listening to missing persons/ wanted people cases. The person that i remember seeing did do drugs tho. I didnt hang with that person very much due to not wanting to be involved with drugs. But yeh idk. It could be someone who looks like her.
I’m aware of what’s goes on I. These circles and I honestly need to lay down right now.
not really related to the case but just gotta put in here that spamalot is a musical and not a movie. the musical is hilarious and one of my favorites so i definitely recommend theatre kids go see it if u can
I was just looking at Patreon hoping for a new video lol!
I’ve been slacking so bad about getting videos up early so I wasn’t able to post there first 😞 but the next few weeks keep on the lookout 😊
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I don't think she was trafficked or ran away, I think it's been right under their noses this whole time, I think she was murdered that same day, in the town she was living and her body just hasn't been found, I tell you why, traffickers dont tend to take people that will have someone looking for them, that will bring attention to the media, someone that has noone to look for them, most have a code of conduct ironically, they dont take mothers and generally stalk their victims lives or approach them in bars ect and ask questions and insert themselves in their lives, unless someone new was in her live then I dont believe she was trafficked, they literally dont just snatch people off the street because they have no idea who they're taking, they target vulnerable women and young girls.
cammey3 I don’t think that’s true at all about traffickers not taking people who will have someone looking for them...while the majority of those trafficked are runaways or homeless, it’s not because no one will notice or be looking, but because they’re easily coerced to go with a stranger and they lack a supportive network so they look for it elsewhere. Another big target is young women who are living away from home for the first time, as in university co-eds or young women looking for job opportunities are extremely vulnerable so Tiffany was actually the perfect candidate because she didn’t have her family with her.
You're right...she died that same day.
Traffickers will scoop up the quickest and easiest prey available. They have no idea nor do they care if the family will look for them. It’s about the time & place, easy access, grab & go. You have no idea of what you’re talking about as far as who traffickers abduct. It’s not about the people. It’s about a human product period!
Bekka Escobales my comment was referring to Cammey3 comment
What about what she told her boss about taking a week off?
Yeah, that's suspicious and should be looked into further. This girl was a free spirit and maybe a little odd. Maybe she just left. Idk..
Reminds me of Maira Murray's case! She also said she needed to take off early due to a family emergency. There wasn't one, as confirmed by the family.
Yeah I’m surprised this hasn’t been mentioned or looked into more. This alone leads me to think this is suicide.
Id bet The roommate did something the night before and she went home told him shed be gone for a week and that he needed to get out. He likely didn't want his daughter or girlfriend to know. Plus think he was concerned to early.
was her phone pings checked out ?
Hello and Happy New year lovely! I really enjoy your channel and appreciate the compassion and hard work you put in! Thank you!! Im wondering ig it possible to increase the audio a little please? While listening on to my phone it is quite soft xxx
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I think human trafficking is the one that fits best it makes most sense if its so i hope she can be found and get back home its heartbreaking 💔
OK, this is important...It is NEVER trafficking....remind yourself that
Joly crap, this waitress must be blaming herself for saying this to the girl... That was probably her, so sad!