TheOutdoorGearReview . Luke, so here goes.... for the weight it's to leak prone as u sed... the poles are in a bad spot as far as entry is concerned. It appears not to pitch well..to baggy. Honestly I don't see any redeeming qualities in it. My question is why does the military allow such piss poor quality in some gear and yet such a high standard in others..the knife standard is quite acceptable ect.
Yep, too heavy and too many leaks. Looks ridiculously strong, though. Might make a good base camp gear dump shed for a large group, one that you leave up all winter. Much outdoor gear is already water resistant and only needs basic shelter from wind blown rain and snow. It would definitely provide that level of protection. But then again, one of those monster heavy duty WalMart tarps would also work at half the price while being twice as big.
It already weighs too much. Having to add an inner mesh tent is just plain crazy. Plus, that doesn't fix the built in water leaks. Just not good for camping unless it's very cold and dry. Tarp and bivy are better by far.
Just standard issue indeed! However, really great that you got that tent and you like militairy stuff! Brings back memories this tent. 😂 One time the whole camp had the red beans MRE for dinner and every tent smelled the same (real bad) for several days. 😬
For someone who reviews tents and stuff for a living. I find it shocking how much effort you skipped to set this up. The cover has a shit ton of creases in it, not properly set up at all.
I wonder why you labelled it a "failure", as some mistakes were made while setting up the tent, some of those causing the issues that you were having. Trust me, we Dutch people know about rain and water, most of our country is below sea level. We'd never use a tent that's actually as leaky as you made that one out to be. ;)
Russ Ian E. Lection-Hacker Hi Russ, maybe you mistake the netherlands with australia 😂😂 we have a lot of different cattle in the NL, sheep are not the majority. Sorry to disappoint you 😂😂 Although the NL is small, we also have beaches and dunes (in proportion with the size of our country), which consist of sand......so yes Ynse Schaap is right, send the sand back (Schaap actually means sheep")
Why aren’t you liking the comments that explain to you how the tent is really meant to be used and what you did wrong in putting it up? these are worth more than the comments praising you that you did like. You kind of screwed up and not accepting that seems kind of disingenuous.
FYI. This tent was used in the Dutch army _not_ only by the special forces but by the entire army of The Netherlands from the 90's to I believe around 2010-ish. They are extremely heavy but spacious. You could zip two of them together so you'd have a 2 person tent and sleep alongside your buddy. (In The Netherlands we also use the buddy system.) The reason why the leaked so much is mostly overuse and bad care. Nowaday's they are no longer in use. The Dutch army now uses a bivy tent wich is much smaller and lighter.
You have no clue. Let me explain. (I am Dutch) 1. It is heavy. So the soldiers get a workout and be strong! 2. Sand. If you need a beach for D-Day. And if you get killed in rocky terrain the have something to bury you with. 3. We make bug soup. Protein! 4. It leaks so you don't waste time finding a bath. 5. The holes are to stick the barrel of your gun though and you don't have get out of your nice warm sleeping bag when the enemy attacks. Only con is the camo. It should have a print of a windmill on it so they can't spot your in between the other windmills.
Yes that is true but this was made for *D-Day* not to mention that that is fckin over and even we almost can't defeat Belgium the Dutch just ruined their military after ww1
I bought a "new" one in desert camo from the same year (1995). I only use it close to a vehicle, as it's too big to take with you. This is a motorized infantry model, same with the Dutch M90 sleeping bag. I use it for week long scout camps, astronomy night and mountain camping (2000m / 6500ft) where the weather can change unexpectedly at 3am. The advantages: it's thick cotton, you can stitch things and then waterproof the stitches with seamgrip. It opens up possibilities for customization, something I never thought doing in Silicon-Nylon tents because I'm so afraid to rip them. So I totally agree on the bug net, I'm working to add one on mine. I added a ridge-line inside from one bar to an other to hang things like lamps. I have also added flaps to cover the holes from the outside, especially where the 3 zippers meet. Because it's cotton you are also supposed to treat it with nixwax cotton from time to time and accept that it will always be cold and moist to the touch in the mornings because it will absorb the water from outside and the vapor from your body/breath. But down here in the south of France this tent is also a fantastic shelter against the strong sun we have. Open all doors and you have a great afternoon shelter to take a nap. Here cotton shows its fantastic versatility and insulating that thin light tents do not have. And when the strong mountain wind blows, I'm much warmer and safer in this thing than my friend in his costly MSR Hubba Hubba tent. He's got side winds coming into his tent and he won't use it at low temperature. I use mine all year round, especially close to freezing point. As you pointed out, it's good for winter. So if I love cotton then why not buy a civilian model? I would love to, but a civilian cotton tent here costs between 250 - 400 euros and this one can be bought in Holland from 35 euros (xmilitarystore) . In the end this tent is one of the few affordable options for those who want a cotton tent. An other option is the Polish cape tent, it's a tipi formed with two pelerina capes. Very popular with the bushcrafting crowd and very cosy.
I got one from one of my dutch parrents old military friends, he had it on storage and i got the tent i Loved it at first sight! Also About the Water Poffness and so on just give it a Spray like you do with your shoes. and Vola tent its Water proff, also the tent poles has a Velkro fastner at the bottom of the tent. and well its just a Old Fasion cool camoed Military tent, its a bit Heavy but other then that its Enjoyably!
First of all, this is not a "special forces" tent, it's a former regular issue tent. Nowadays dutch forces often just use their poncho's to create a shelter. You have to treat these tent's with a waterproofing agent, i always managed to keep the insides completely dry. Great tents but pretty heavy indeed!
Dude the only reason water got in that tent is because the zip tags were tucked inside, they are meant to be on the outside to repel the rain. So i'm afraid its not the tents fault, its yours. No disrespect, you just probably didn't know and didn't do the research. However, thanks for the video.
Never had a problem with it. Mine is still waterproof. And your's is from 1994. And you have bad info, 1. It is a 1 person tent, not a 2 person. 2. It is not for the Special Forces. 3. We carry a poncho, tarp or bivibag
This is a great tent for the price and is as sturdy as a rock. I've used it when it's been raining a lot and the only water I encountered was from my boots when I came back inside. As you say, it's a soldiers tent, so don't expect bells and whistles. And yes, it's too heavy to carry far. What's more, you could always stuff a bug net in if needed. I absolutely love mine, I'll be using it more in the winter and snow. Atb phil
i noticed some assembly mistakes and some misadjustments. have you checked the 'operator manual' or asked some dutch guy how to assembly that? for exemple: - those plastic rubber loops in the botom that you staked on the ground seems to be used for some other purpose like pass the rope of the roof and lift the corner of the ground. - there is a velcro in the bottom (near the 'T' of the zipper) where the stake might be straped to make the sides more vertical and out of the ground. - the roof seem to be stretched too much outward. if you pass the roof rope inside the rubery-loops and stake it closer it might show better water resistance and geometry.)
This tent is bombproof and improves the more often you get it wet as the canvas weave expands. All those zip points are easy to cover with a flap of cheap tarp on the outside. The big advantage of them is that they can be used a little like a baker tent is used because it's canvas and because you can open up an entire side to the fire. Of course there are limitations, I mean, these things cost around £35 in the UK which is ridiculously cheap. Use them, abuse them, they'll still come out the other side laughing. As for bugs........ They're not really intended for use outside northern Europe which is why they have no bug net. We don't get too many big bugs that are a problem in northern Europe.
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It was meant for breaking (in) soldiers not pampering campers. :)
You did make mistakes, 3:27 you can see just below the zipper to which you point is a loop hole. The pole goes trough there and not free standing. Also the pins on 2:43 need to be pushed down in the ground with either a rubber hammer or your foot. Same goes for the pins that hold down the bottom of the tent. As it stands now, it will be taken down by the wind or even with heavy rainfall. The tent was not designed to house a pretty pink princes snowflake, it was designed to be good enough while being strong and durable. It is a tent for soldiers, not pussies. Sorry for my words, but it's the honest truth. The temperature in the Netherlands is often cooler then in the US but in winter less cold. The tent there for is not based up on US climates nor tropical or very cold climates, it wasn't even based on desert conditions. It's a place to sleep in, store your personal belongings and that's about it.
1. it's made 22 years ago. 2. you placed it wrong. 3. we sleep in our vehicles, or with the tent right up to/between it. SF sleep in the rain. or dug-out forward position. 4. we also have duct tape in europe 5 If you're afraid of spiders dont't go camping. 6. They cost between 27 and 50 Euro's 7. We prefer to return to FOB, not sleep in tents without a protective perimeter. I give this review over all a C+, No consideration how this is used, the fact its 22y old and you are afraid of 25ml of water and spiders.
He isn't reviewing the tent for how the Dutch military uses it. He is reviewing it for how a civilian who is buying an army surplus tent would use it. If you are buying a tent to go camping would this be a good tent for you? His review suggests it wouldn't.
Sorry Luke, this is one of the rare times I’m going to disagree with your findings, in some part anyway! I think you are missing the point of equipment designed for use above the 49th parallel (lol) and has already been pointed out if you had pitched it properly it would have preformed a lot better!! Comes into its own when used in the “cold-war” situation in the northern forests backing onto the largest country in the world!! Take care, regards, an inhabitant of above 50! Clive
I have the same tent for over 15 years and have had in sand snow in temps down to -20 and in rain so hard the bottom was like a water bed and never had one problem. no it is not for backpacking but if you don't wont what that one give it to me i know how to treat a good tent
I have used that tent and lived out of it for about a month camping in Montana. I liked how the sides were enclosed to keep snakes and critters out. Went thru one really good storm no water entered the tent. loved it and will buy it.n
I don't know. I'm liking that heavy duty, rubberized bath tub floor, having been forced to set up a few tents in the mud before. I even had to pitch two shelter halves in the mud once. Not fun. It's almost like the designer had that first and foremost in mind.
We've sold many of these and not a single complaint. Since they ARE surplus, make sure you check them first for holes or rips. Taking a few minutes to repair these small flaws pays off big time.
I have two of these and as with much of the surplus stuff I buy, some minor stitch work had to be undertaken and that was the holes gone. Once that was done and I reproofed it with some canvas tent seal it became an astounding tent, its warm in the UK winter its plenty big enough for 1 man and his kit, it is a bit of a lump to carry as with most canvas offerings, taking a little extra time to get the pegs in the right place meant that it was very waterproof, the price difference here in the UK must be down to shipping costs because I got mine for £25 delivered. I do think that no bug net is a nightmare because with all the holes fixed when a bug gets in it feasts on you all night because its so warm that you often sleep outside your bag and the bug cannot get out..
Hi as a follow up with this tent and as I said earlier I've know finished some modifications for this tent that was cheap. Firstly the zips at the ends can simply be sewed up with a sewing machine, as long as you keep the Zips on the outside. Secondly you can attach OD green or another canvas strip to cover the zip's from either side facing downwards covering the zips. With regards to the vertical zip sewed on each side to the left of zip from the top vents. I'm happy to say that I've tested the tent and nothing leaks, this was in a huge thunder storm that dumped a lot of rain on the tent. So with a little bit of time and some sewing which was cheap the tent has worked out well. I do however struggle with carrying the weight of it over long distances. But I just wanted to let you know I've had success. Thanks again. Drew.
im in britain i love my dutch army tent used it many times in rain, sunshine , even the snow and cold weather we had never failed to let me down mine came with wooden poles i dont know maybe some dutch army guy tried to make it lighter to carry. but its a excellent tent used with the british army arctic sleep system and my trust yugoslavian army mess kit
I own one of these tents and when used in conjunction with a tarp they take some beating. I agree they're no good if you have to carry it a long way but it's not a back packing tent. But in winter with a fire in front of it, it's a palace.
I use this tent all the time. You need to use Fabsil gold to reproof the tent. I was in a 13hr torrential down storm in Scotland and woke up to a small river running under the tent. The bathtub base didn’t let a drop in but I had some water ingress from the holes. Easily sorted with a towel. The river level raised to our tents and it was a nightmare but the tent allowed me to sleep all night with no issues.
I actually have this exact tent and after 1 coat of Fabsil it has stayed water proof for 5 years straight....even tested it with a hose on high pressure....it needs to be treated to be waterproof on the fabric....i have had no issues with holes.. i cant even remember them being there.
This tent is very popular in The Netherlands. I sold one on a second hand website. Even when I mentioned that the tent is far from waterproof and I gave them a link to this movie, people still were determent to buy it. Some of the bidders told me that they wanted to use the tent for stealth / wild camping. Eventually I sold it to a guy who wanted to buy it because of his good experiences in the Dutch army. A guy who served with the Dutch commandos who sold me some army surplus items told me that they only used this tent on bigger camp sites. Out in the field they used the hooped bivi bag. And preferably the double hooped bivi bag.
I have seen a desert camo version of this on another UA-camr's channel, he has taken it to various places in his country to camp, and when it rains he puts a tarp over it for water protection
Shame because they’re a great looking tent. If a manufacturer made a similar design with more modern materials and waterproof I’m sure it would be a hit.
The tie down lines at the corners need to be spread out further and would have cut down on the rain coming in at the corners. Won't guarantee no leaks but would cover the corners better.
8:50 hey mister expert tent reviewer. the end of that zipper is supposed to go on the outside of the tent to prevent water from coming in. Also as already mentioned in the comments, this isn't a special forces tent, this is a regular dutch army tent.
Not a special forces tent. Every grunt in the Dutch army gets this. Nothing special forces about it. And this is a 1 person tent. You can link them together to make them 2 or more persons. 90 bucks damn i pay 25 euro's for it and it is in better shape.
Not a fair test. 1. It was made for colder climate 2. The zip ends on the corners are meant to be outside not in the tent. 2. The poles secure on the tabs on base of bath tub thus sealing the hole.as the corners push out You wouldn't have water in the corners 3. You didnt season the tent prior use 4. I've never seen bullets inside of surplus gear. PS I'm ex military. As I say Norway a fair test mines never jeaked and here in the UK we have more rain.
Not a fair test to the tent at all for one its a cavas tent take the extra few minutes to taught the canvas to let the rain run off and not puddle.water gathers on the creased canvas and slowly runs down the canvas getting the chance to find holes when taught it runs off the end not getting a chance to find holes.also the poles need to be Velcro on to the groung sheet thats what the velcro is for attached to the groung sheet it holds the canvas tight to the pole with the zips pressed up tight to the pole stopping water entering in to the zip the way u have set it up the wind and rain is blowing the side away from the pole allowing the rain to come inside the tent sorry but any poorly set up tent is going to leak tension canvas and secure poles with the velcro provided and defiantly will not leak like this poorly set up tent
It was designed for use in europe...at the time of this design our main worry was Russia.....so it was not mend to be used in the tropics or deserts...i used this tent alot when i was in the dutch army. its a great strong tent. i was once in a blizzard inside this tent and it did not break or fold.... It can take a beating from harse winters.... Great tent that never breaks!!
The regular dutch army also dont use these anymore.. for a long time.. we use the bivi bags too.. next to that the tent (pup tent is the correct name) is great.. you can connect 2 together and when its set up correct and serviced properly it works perfect..
I saw you put a tarp over a tent, as you were preparing for an ice storm under the trees... very biased statement you made there. But I still like the adventures you take us on, so I'll just do what I always do. Watch your show, but listen to informed people who do read the directions, before making any decisions. Thanx again TOGR
This review is like brushing with the wrong end of a toothbrush and then saying the toothbrush sucks. I mean all the faults you mentioned could have been avoided if you set the tent up the right way.
mines been set up out side for 6 weeks and no leaks at all in an English winter.. ice, hail, rain -10. zip tags should be pushed through to hang outside, to drip water away. also your end guys were too long and should be out at 45 dgs. this tensions the canvas and affords greater over hang cover. the poles are secured at the base by velcro straps, lifting the ground sheet higher and pulling the 3 zippers in tighter. its not a tabbing tent, but more a base camp or for a transport/service crew. otherwise like the Brits, use a tarp or ponch or two rather than hump 15lbs of soggy canvas around. a bug mesh would benefit.
Haha... Yep, that sounds about right! If there's one army that's constantly being given the worst shit and forced to go "thank you" for the privilige, it's us Dutchies. Special Forces tent? Dutch soldiers be like: "Special Needs Tent, more like" But it's a standard PUB tent, nothing SF about it. I got that same piece of shit in basic training 20 odd years ago. Yeah, with proper care it will withstand a deluge, but by God is it a big, heavy and outdated piece of kit. Yours dates from back in 1994: KL94
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thank you for these videos not only are they fun but they help us from making the mistake of buying poor products. Really appreciate the channel and all you do Luke! Cant wait for another military overnight adventure!
These tents are awesome. My buddy has one and we use it in the fall during hunting season in northern Alberta. Never had a problem with water or anything.
I got mine cheap but don't mind that I will have to put waterproof tape on the corners. I used mine in the winter and while I was comfortable in mine my friends in their tents(not Dutch Army)froze. That sold me.
I've had my British Armed forces tent for 17 years, never had issues with it. Same tent just different nation. Really to be used with a basha over the top.
If this were $20 or less, id say its worth it to set up for kids to play army in. But $90 for a bulky heavy tent that isn't even water or bug proof is a joke.
I have one of these. When put up properly, it was the only tent to not have leaked like a sieve when all the modern ones were filled bathtubs in a heavy downpour. Nice and cozy. Definitely not two man, you'd struggle to get your gear in along with you. Bloody heavy for the size for sure. It's a very warm tent for winter.
You kinda need to set it up right. You didn't put the poles where they belonged on this type of tent, the poles go inside the bottom and fill the zipper hole. Regardless it's a military tent meant to be durable and last being banged around and guys not giving on crap about. Someone that takes care of their equipment should definitely not look at mil surplus. Remember military buys things for decades or more of service of men that don't give ***** about the military's stuff.
It is not a two-man tent. Only a one-man tent and not from the special forces either. The tent is also the old version, the new version does not have these holes on the zippers. You can't just say it's bad. The processing is really good.
I'm not sure what the problem is. The holes aren't a flaw, they're a feature. How many tents function as both a shelter AND a water catchment? And don't forget the benefit of 15 lbs. Throw away your P90X and just carry the tent around. What a gem!
The lowest bidder that meets the requirements, that is. Very important difference. And with all those zippers, this is probably not cheap to make. So while the workmanship, I'm sure, is excellent, the idea behind it is failed. It tries to be too many things at once. Whose failure is that? The committee that designed it.
Hi there, FYI; That is just a standard Dutch military tent from the nineties! It was made in the same year I entered the service (1994) and I had that tent too. Maybe just slept in it during one exercise! After that just in the sleeping bag with a waterproof outer liner. (those sleepingbags were great btw!) So it is not SF! Even more, at around 1996/97, when I bought my Hilleberg Nammatj 3GT tent, Dutch commando's received new tents from Hilleberg as I once read somewhere. I don't know whether it was a pilot or something. I never saw them In real live. It was a one person tent with special custom khaki colors. The story had a photo with it containing three of those tents on a small hill covered with grass and some trees on top. Don't know the type anymore. That story was the reason I started to look at Hilleberg! Before I was orientating at TNF tents. I still have the nammatj until this day, with an extra door from the start. Oh, and that zipper end. When you place it on the outside instead of the inside, the water will drip to the outside instead of into the tent! But it is not a great tent! Imagine taking this with you, that wet on a campaign! Wet it is very heavy, plus chances are you get fungus growth inside and it stay damp all the way!
sorry your wallmart special doesnt qualify.. gl on finding a tent of that size for 90$ that is all climate... and if you didnt notice he set the tent up in a gully its going to get wet... there is no such thing as a waterproof tent anyone who tells you that is selling something... even waterproof treated nylon or other synthetic fabrics moment you touch the inside of it. game over... short of 100% plastic/rubber liner/wall no tent ever is waterproof and poor placement isnt a excuse. the tent had very minimal dmg, its used surplus for $90 you cant say thats a fail. its not survival gear. its deployment gear...so crying about the weight is also bullshit thats like crying about a canvass wall tent is heavy... DERP.
I've bought myself one. I really like this tent I've just bought another one for my son. Yer they are heavy tent. But what I liked was they don't rattle in the wind. They are darker inside on a night. Seems and feels warmer inside. I've not had a downpour test yet, but held up to a light rain. I did notice the gap where the 3 zips meet. I just put my bottle of pop in front just to block it a bit. Cant wait to see how they join up.........
what part of used military surplus didnt you comprehend? and are you clueless honestly at the prices of 4 season tents? go price a 2man 4 season at REI... then say $90 wasnt worth it... *facepalms* and used surplus as he clearly stated at the beginning is a crap shoot on what you get.... he could got one in pristine condition or even worse then that. $90 for that tent a good deal user operator error by setting a tent up in a gully where water going to pool up isnt a reason to consider that tent a fail.
Syc holic, what part of 'better options' didn't YOU understand? Go check out Alps brand tents before you show your ignorance to the world. Do you really consider that "Dutch" tent a 4 season tent? Are you deaf or just too stupid to understand the review when he said that he would not use that tent during the warmer months because of poor ventilation. Honestly, you must have a single digit IQ or you are an REI sales person if you think that tents are only available at REI. Did you actually watch the video or do you just have a 2 second memory retention? The tent was not set up in a gully which caused the water to pool up inside the tent. That was caused by leakage, as explained in the video, and the natural terrain found in any reasonable camp site. Have you actually ever been camping? Please crawl back under the bridge and play with the other trolls there.
what part of that dont you understand or you deaf or stupid? when you finally come up with a single valid point why $90 for a survival 2man 4season tent is not worth the money you going to spend then talk otherwise just stfu trollphail cuz you not even on topic STILL...
Obviously, you are too ignorant to understand that I did not say that a $90 survival tent is worth the money spent on it. I said that this particular tent is not worth any money spent on it. Did you check out the alternatives out there? Of course not. That would be the intelligent thing to do. Even a cheap Eureka tent is better than this one. So, I have mentioned 2 alternatives so far and you have obviously ignored researching them as an alternative. In addition, you mentioned that this tent is also a surplus tent at this price. I can sell you a vintage North Face VE25 4 season, 3 person tent for less. This tent, and others that can be found used, are orders of magnitude better than this military surplus tent. If you can not find my "point" in this discussion, then you are just lost. I find it curious why you are so adamant about defending this tent. Have you purchased one and bragged about how well it works to your friends? BTW, try speaking/writing in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation when you post something in public. You will find that it helps your credibility with the public and later in your professional life, when you grow up.
R V One of the reasons nationalism is a bad thing. Defending a shitty tent irrationally due to the fact there aren't any proper (known) alternatives in the country.
here's a thought its call 100 mile in a hour tape,and also most soldiers i know from foreign counties also carry a thing called a camouflaged tarp,and paracord to tie down the tarp.
Mine came with a wooden shoe and part of a windmill blade in it. Good car camping tent if you understand its limitations. I don't take it out if rain is in the forecast. If if does rain I just throw a tarp over it. It is great in the wind. Price is good.
Just as a correction to your video, this tent is not used by the Dutch SF or other special units. They are not even issued to them. This tent is only standard issue for the regular units. Special units tend to make shelters with only their poncho and or a bivaque sack.
I got mine on Saturday. Stunk with mold n mildew. BUT...the worst part is mine was moth eaten. From the inside, it looks like it was shot with a shotgun with bird shot. I thought about returning it, but I don't know if I'd get a better one. Also, if it had been cheaper, I probably wouldn't care. Gonna hang onto it just for collection. Mine came from Sportsman's guide. I agree about this being a great cool or Cold weather setup. Thought about a second tent hooked up and setting it up with a stove jack & zip out section of the floor. So one for stove/gear & one for sleeping.
If you got it from a a dumpshop in either the netherlands itself or belgium you could've taken a good look at it and probably not paid 90, which I hope you have not.
I have used many tents. The dutch Army tent (Not special force or so) is a bit heavy but perfect specially in Summer because of the usr of canvas. Its also ok in other(wet or cold) condituons. But if you dont want to take care (waterproofing) a bit, you will get disappointed. I love this tent and use ist since 5 years.
For a similar price, I recently bought a Vango tent with roughly two times the internal space and 2/3 the weight. I've not been out in wet weather (yet) but there are no obvious holes like in this one. The two advantages this Dutch tent has are really substantial poles and a relatively fast pitching time. My current one take me a leisurely ~20 minutes when I'm in no hurry, but that's working solo rather than with any help. Those Dutch poles aint gonna bend or split in a hurry. My previous Vango tent had the poles split on me which it a big part of why I retired it and got a new one of a different design.
My brother has one of these it's fantastic just needed waterproofing and then you can throw it in the back of the Land Rover for military shows. Wouldn't want to use it in winter though. I'll stick with my basha and 58 pattern poncho for yomping over hills.
These were quite cheap as surplus tents in the UK a few years ago. They have a very limited use and several people I know that still use them (most have abandoned them or given them to the kids for garden camping) tend to use them for base camp storage as they are sturdy and ideal for throwing bulky items in etc.
I used it when i served in the Dutch Army,... i only had this, so no comparison,... I was better then being outside in the rain,.. wuch one do you recomend?
Love the vids bro. I use this tent a lot but then I do wild camp in Scotland. It’s a canvas tent and you must use Fabsil gold periodically to re-proof it otherwise it will leak in. On our last outing we caught the tail end of a hurricane and it performed excellently and I’m talking torrential rain for 14 hours solid also the bathtub bottom is completely waterproof as I woke up with a mini river running under the tent and I never even noticed until I got out when the rain died off around 10am. I camp in big woodland so the rain comes straight down which makes the holes irrelevant and the camo is amazing in that environment. The benefits of this tent over a lighter tent are definitely when you cold camp, no bugs really not that bugs in the uk are a big problem and this tent holds the heat brilliantly. This tent is awesome for a good nights sleep as it keeps the light out far better than a light tent. However you can’t carry this tent far so car camping is the way forward not long mountain trekking. Hope this helps someone, thanks.
Hi Alan, good review. I also stay in Scotland. Would you recommend this tent? Want to get into wild camping and it would be "car camping" as you put it. It looks like a no frills, very robust tent; something basic to lay your head, right. I know your review is from three years ago, but if your still on UA-cam, your comments would be greatly appreciated. Regards-John.
back in the day I ordered from Cheaper Than Dirt or Ranger Joe's back in 2000 and it was a French two-man tent. The only difference was it was OD and made out of canvas. It never leaked and was a great tent for sub 20 bucks.
Winter camping only. You plug the holes push mesh in , I would look for another. If someone gave me this tent that would be different. I would make it bug and rainproof.
I have 2 of these tents I've never had any issues with them at all been awesome for camping out in the bush I quite like them but I have seen a few bad reviews though
Like your review. Looks like a decent tent shortcomings aside. Sometimes heavy canvas and to a degree lack of zippers/screening is not always an issue. I recently purchased a brand new US "Shelter Half" tent for $20 and to be honest I prefer it to just about every pup tent I've used. (In spite of the lack of floor or mesh and zippers). When wet it seems to shed the rain well and I sleep very well in it. (Nice and dark inside and does not make much noise in the wind). Might not be good in the deep south or tropics where insects sting, but here not bad at all.
It’s surplus .. so old style redundant. It’s strong and rugged not meant for a back pack trip. These are to be delivered by air drop and or other means of military transport. Above all these tents must survive storing and rough handling. In war time they maybe used 14 days at max. So nor reason to see it as a good civilian tent use .
I have two of these ... There is only one (and main) problem : big bag and heavy tent . If you like hiking and camping , it's gonna be sooo interesting carrying this with you ... especially on the mountain . But i like those tents . :)
i love this tent used this in my army days . ok it has its flaws but for the designed climate to be used its not to bad at all. BTW the guys that sleep in these tent arent afraid of a little water or bugs
Deze tent is niet alleen voor de" special forces" het behoorde tot de bgu ( basis gevecht's uitrusting)van elke landmacht militair. Sinds een jaar of 2 a 3 is deze tent niet meer in gebruik, zelfs niet meer bij de reserves. Het was op zijn beurt de opvolger van de 2 halve tenten waarvan elke militair een helft had en die samen met zijn maatje moest samenknopen om er een tent zonder grondzeil van te maken. Al met al dus een hele verbetering waar ik menig uurtje in heb doorgebracht,en dat de tent een "failure "is is een bullsh#t bewering. de opvolger van deze dpm tent is de slaapzak met buitenhoes en boogje(bugfree), kort na invoering afgekeurd omdat je er niet snel genoeg uit kon komen in geval van nood doordat de ritsluiting van binnen en buitenzak tegenover elkaar zitten, vooral met lakenzak en in het donker tijdens een alarm een hele uitdaging!. Test die maar eens Luke, dat zal nog eens hilarische beelden opleveren. ps. Wie niet tegen beestjes en water kan kan beter bij mams thuis blijven.
For the money, I would invest in a different tent.
Moving on the next military surplus item. - Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview . Luke, so here goes.... for the weight it's to leak prone as u sed... the poles are in a bad spot as far as entry is concerned. It appears not to pitch well..to baggy. Honestly I don't see any redeeming qualities in it.
My question is why does the military allow such piss poor quality in some gear and yet such a high standard in others..the knife standard is quite acceptable ect.
Yep, too heavy and too many leaks. Looks ridiculously strong, though. Might make a good base camp gear dump shed for a large group, one that you leave up all winter. Much outdoor gear is already water resistant and only needs basic shelter from wind blown rain and snow. It would definitely provide that level of protection. But then again, one of those monster heavy duty WalMart tarps would also work at half the price while being twice as big.
it's bulletproof :P
You didnt got the mesh inner tent with it! That thing is the only plus side to our tent, the seperate mesh inner is good.
It already weighs too much. Having to add an inner mesh tent is just plain crazy. Plus, that doesn't fix the built in water leaks. Just not good for camping unless it's very cold and dry. Tarp and bivy are better by far.
Special force's tent ???? I've been in the Dutch army everyone gets this tent 🤣🤣🤣 it's just the standard issue
Does it come with the sand or no?
True, Pascal. Even the Airmobile Brigade has them, but never use them.
He likes the military :)
yes, but its probably listed on ebay as SF, also "two man" yeah right... just ebay bollcoks
Just standard issue indeed! However, really great that you got that tent and you like militairy stuff! Brings back memories this tent. 😂 One time the whole camp had the red beans MRE for dinner and every tent smelled the same (real bad) for several days. 😬
For someone who reviews tents and stuff for a living. I find it shocking how much effort you skipped to set this up. The cover has a shit ton of creases in it, not properly set up at all.
So true I love my one I spray it with waterproof spray now and again and never leeks
I wonder why you labelled it a "failure", as some mistakes were made while setting up the tent, some of those causing the issues that you were having. Trust me, we Dutch people know about rain and water, most of our country is below sea level. We'd never use a tent that's actually as leaky as you made that one out to be. ;)
Hoi Hendrik, ik wil twee a 3 van dit soort tenten kopen. Wat voor fouten heeft hij gemaakt tijdens het opzetten? Ik hoor graag van je.
This is NOT a Dutch special forces tent, it is a regular Dutch army tent....we use a igloo tent in the Dutch special forces
Bert 2016
Dude just wants to sounds interesting, you're supposed to use tarp anyway (at least in bad weather
right, that is what we do during mountaintraining in scotland
whe dont have that in the Netherlands
Gewon je ponsjo
Yeah regular army tent, slept in it for a while till i got my MBT hehe 😎
Would you be so kind as to send the sand back, our country is small enough as it is ;-)
Sheep don't need sand.
Russ Ian E. Lection-Hacker Hi Russ, maybe you mistake the netherlands with australia 😂😂 we have a lot of different cattle in the NL, sheep are not the majority. Sorry to disappoint you 😂😂 Although the NL is small, we also have beaches and dunes (in proportion with the size of our country), which consist of sand......so yes Ynse Schaap is right, send the sand back (Schaap actually means sheep")
@@mdascoota4293 "Schaap actually means sheep"
So you get the joke, but you're just being a pretentious prick?
Russ Ian E. Lection-Hacker pls respect European culture
@@mdascoota4293 , I think a little extra sand sent back to your country is in order. Some got lost when he shook out the tent. Have a great day!
Why aren’t you liking the comments that explain to you how the tent is really meant to be used and what you did wrong in putting it up? these are worth more than the comments praising you that you did like. You kind of screwed up and not accepting that seems kind of disingenuous.
kinda disappointing this is one year ago..
So true so true
Im literally DYING at how sad of a job you did putting that tent together!!!! my bed sheets are tighter!!!
Which might be why it leaked...
@@PlayaSinNombreyes...the zippers need to be outside. No need to tug them in.
FYI. This tent was used in the Dutch army _not_ only by the special forces but by the entire army of The Netherlands from the 90's to I believe around 2010-ish. They are extremely heavy but spacious. You could zip two of them together so you'd have a 2 person tent and sleep alongside your buddy. (In The Netherlands we also use the buddy system.) The reason why the leaked so much is mostly overuse and bad care. Nowaday's they are no longer in use. The Dutch army now uses a bivy tent wich is much smaller and lighter.
You have no clue. Let me explain. (I am Dutch)
1. It is heavy. So the soldiers get a workout and be strong!
2. Sand. If you need a beach for D-Day. And if you get killed in rocky terrain the have something to bury you with.
3. We make bug soup. Protein!
4. It leaks so you don't waste time finding a bath.
5. The holes are to stick the barrel of your gun though and you don't have get out of your nice warm sleeping bag when the enemy attacks.
Only con is the camo. It should have a print of a windmill on it so they can't spot your in between the other windmills.
ikr ! americans dont know ANYTHIING ! xd
Yes that is true but this was made for *D-Day* not to mention that that is fckin over and even we almost can't defeat Belgium the Dutch just ruined their military after ww1
KidsLive what do we need a military for?
Happy Hicker No. Weed camo better.
Essentially the same reason you´ll need a police-force. For protecting your territory and citizens.
I bought a "new" one in desert camo from the same year (1995). I only use it close to a vehicle, as it's too big to take with you. This is a motorized infantry model, same with the Dutch M90 sleeping bag. I use it for week long scout camps, astronomy night and mountain camping (2000m / 6500ft) where the weather can change unexpectedly at 3am.
The advantages: it's thick cotton, you can stitch things and then waterproof the stitches with seamgrip. It opens up possibilities for customization, something I never thought doing in Silicon-Nylon tents because I'm so afraid to rip them.
So I totally agree on the bug net, I'm working to add one on mine. I added a ridge-line inside from one bar to an other to hang things like lamps. I have also added flaps to cover the holes from the outside, especially where the 3 zippers meet.
Because it's cotton you are also supposed to treat it with nixwax cotton from time to time and accept that it will always be cold and moist to the touch in the mornings because it will absorb the water from outside and the vapor from your body/breath.
But down here in the south of France this tent is also a fantastic shelter against the strong sun we have. Open all doors and you have a great afternoon shelter to take a nap. Here cotton shows its fantastic versatility and insulating that thin light tents do not have. And when the strong mountain wind blows, I'm much warmer and safer in this thing than my friend in his costly MSR Hubba Hubba tent. He's got side winds coming into his tent and he won't use it at low temperature. I use mine all year round, especially close to freezing point. As you pointed out, it's good for winter.
So if I love cotton then why not buy a civilian model?
I would love to, but a civilian cotton tent here costs between 250 - 400 euros and this one can be bought in Holland from 35 euros (xmilitarystore) . In the end this tent is one of the few affordable options for those who want a cotton tent.
An other option is the Polish cape tent, it's a tipi formed with two pelerina capes. Very popular with the bushcrafting crowd and very cosy.
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I got one from one of my dutch parrents old military friends, he had it on storage and i got the tent i Loved it at first sight! Also About the Water Poffness and so on just give it a Spray like you do with your shoes. and Vola tent its Water proff, also the tent poles has a Velkro fastner at the bottom of the tent. and well its just a Old Fasion cool camoed Military tent, its a bit Heavy but other then that its Enjoyably!
First of all, this is not a "special forces" tent, it's a former regular issue tent. Nowadays dutch forces often just use their poncho's to create a shelter. You have to treat these tent's with a waterproofing agent, i always managed to keep the insides completely dry. Great tents but pretty heavy indeed!
o,they must get a lot of change from passing people
But the leaks he showed were from the holes not a lack of waterproofing, cant just seal up holes where the zippers meet with some silicon spray
Dude the only reason water got in that tent is because the zip tags were tucked inside, they are meant to be on the outside to repel the rain. So i'm afraid its not the tents fault, its yours. No disrespect, you just probably didn't know and didn't do the research.
However, thanks for the video.
Never had a problem with it.
Mine is still waterproof.
And your's is from 1994.
And you have bad info,
1. It is a 1 person tent, not a 2 person.
2. It is not for the Special Forces.
3. We carry a poncho, tarp or bivibag
And he never served any special forces, that guy on the clip. anders zou hij zo uit zijn nek niet lullen.
And he didn't set it properly
This is a great tent for the price and is as sturdy as a rock. I've used it when it's been raining a lot and the only water I encountered was from my boots when I came back inside. As you say, it's a soldiers tent, so don't expect bells and whistles. And yes, it's too heavy to carry far. What's more, you could always stuff a bug net in if needed. I absolutely love mine, I'll be using it more in the winter and snow. Atb phil
i noticed some assembly mistakes and some misadjustments.
have you checked the 'operator manual' or asked some dutch guy how to assembly that?
for exemple:
- those plastic rubber loops in the botom that you staked on the ground seems to be used for some other purpose like pass the rope of the roof and lift the corner of the ground.
- there is a velcro in the bottom (near the 'T' of the zipper) where the stake might be straped to make the sides more vertical and out of the ground.
- the roof seem to be stretched too much outward. if you pass the roof rope inside the rubery-loops and stake it closer it might show better water resistance and geometry.)
I have 4 of these tents. I use it alot in all weather Just take care of it and it will look after You. setting it up properly helps too.
What is best to use as waterproofing. I just bought one but would like to re-proof it before use
@@jenniferstanley2067 Jen try Nikwax Cotton treatment.
This tent is bombproof and improves the more often you get it wet as the canvas weave expands. All those zip points are easy to cover with a flap of cheap tarp on the outside. The big advantage of them is that they can be used a little like a baker tent is used because it's canvas and because you can open up an entire side to the fire. Of course there are limitations, I mean, these things cost around £35 in the UK which is ridiculously cheap. Use them, abuse them, they'll still come out the other side laughing. As for bugs........ They're not really intended for use outside northern Europe which is why they have no bug net. We don't get too many big bugs that are a problem in northern Europe.
It was meant for breaking (in) soldiers not pampering campers. :)
You did make mistakes, 3:27 you can see just below the zipper to which you point is a loop hole. The pole goes trough there and not free standing. Also the pins on 2:43 need to be pushed down in the ground with either a rubber hammer or your foot. Same goes for the pins that hold down the bottom of the tent. As it stands now, it will be taken down by the wind or even with heavy rainfall.
The tent was not designed to house a pretty pink princes snowflake, it was designed to be good enough while being strong and durable. It is a tent for soldiers, not pussies. Sorry for my words, but it's the honest truth. The temperature in the Netherlands is often cooler then in the US but in winter less cold. The tent there for is not based up on US climates nor tropical or very cold climates, it wasn't even based on desert conditions. It's a place to sleep in, store your personal belongings and that's about it.
1. it's made 22 years ago.
2. you placed it wrong.
3. we sleep in our vehicles, or with the tent right up to/between it. SF sleep in the rain. or dug-out forward position.
4. we also have duct tape in europe
5 If you're afraid of spiders dont't go camping.
6. They cost between 27 and 50 Euro's
7. We prefer to return to FOB, not sleep in tents without a protective perimeter.
I give this review over all a C+, No consideration how this is used, the fact its 22y old and you are afraid of 25ml of water and spiders.
He isn't reviewing the tent for how the Dutch military uses it. He is reviewing it for how a civilian who is buying an army surplus tent would use it. If you are buying a tent to go camping would this be a good tent for you? His review suggests it wouldn't.
Still a rubbish tent.
Sorry Luke, this is one of the rare times I’m going to disagree with your findings, in some part anyway! I think you are missing the point of equipment designed for use above the 49th parallel (lol) and has already been pointed out if you had pitched it properly it would have preformed a lot better!! Comes into its own when used in the “cold-war” situation in the northern forests backing onto the largest country in the world!! Take care, regards, an inhabitant of above 50! Clive
I spent 22yrs in the British Army. Never once issued a tent!
I have the same tent for over 15 years and have had in sand snow in temps down to -20 and in rain so hard the bottom was like a water bed and never had one problem. no it is not for backpacking but if you don't wont what that one give it to me i know how to treat a good tent
What's the difference between the version of tent that I have and yours? If they are the same, then it too would leak.
Have a good one Tracker. - Luke
@@TheOutdoorGearReview Maybe he puts it up properly
I have used that tent and lived out of it for about a month camping in Montana. I liked how the sides were enclosed to keep snakes and critters out. Went thru one really good storm no water entered the tent. loved it and will buy it.n
I don't know. I'm liking that heavy duty, rubberized bath tub floor, having been forced to set up a few tents in the mud before. I even had to pitch two shelter halves in the mud once. Not fun. It's almost like the designer had that first and foremost in mind.
We've sold many of these and not a single complaint.
Since they ARE surplus, make sure you check them first for holes or rips. Taking a few minutes to repair these small flaws pays off big time.
I have two of these and as with much of the surplus stuff I buy, some minor stitch work had to be undertaken and that was the holes gone. Once that was done and I reproofed it with some canvas tent seal it became an astounding tent, its warm in the UK winter its plenty big enough for 1 man and his kit, it is a bit of a lump to carry as with most canvas offerings, taking a little extra time to get the pegs in the right place meant that it was very waterproof, the price difference here in the UK must be down to shipping costs because I got mine for £25 delivered. I do think that no bug net is a nightmare because with all the holes fixed when a bug gets in it feasts on you all night because its so warm that you often sleep outside your bag and the bug cannot get out..
Hi as a follow up with this tent and as I said earlier I've know finished some modifications for this tent that was cheap. Firstly the zips at the ends can simply be sewed up with a sewing machine, as long as you keep the Zips on the outside. Secondly you can attach OD green or another canvas strip to cover the zip's from either side facing downwards covering the zips. With regards to the vertical zip sewed on each side to the left of zip from the top vents. I'm happy to say that I've tested the tent and nothing leaks, this was in a huge thunder storm that dumped a lot of rain on the tent. So with a little bit of time and some sewing which was cheap the tent has worked out well.
I do however struggle with carrying the weight of it over long distances. But I just wanted to let you know I've had success. Thanks again.
Drew.
im in britain i love my dutch army tent used it many times in rain, sunshine , even the snow and cold weather we had never failed to let me down mine came with wooden poles i dont know maybe some dutch army guy tried to make it lighter to carry. but its a excellent tent used with the british army arctic sleep system and my trust yugoslavian army mess kit
trusty yugoslavian army mess kit
I am in Dutch scouts and we use 40 years old military tents they are heavy as hell but they are waterproof and the survive Dutch climate
I own one of these tents and when used in conjunction with a tarp they take some beating. I agree they're no good if you have to carry it a long way but it's not a back packing tent. But in winter with a fire in front of it, it's a palace.
I use this tent all the time. You need to use Fabsil gold to reproof the tent. I was in a 13hr torrential down storm in Scotland and woke up to a small river running under the tent. The bathtub base didn’t let a drop in but I had some water ingress from the holes. Easily sorted with a towel. The river level raised to our tents and it was a nightmare but the tent allowed me to sleep all night with no issues.
I actually have this exact tent and after 1 coat of Fabsil it has stayed water proof for 5 years straight....even tested it with a hose on high pressure....it needs to be treated to be waterproof on the fabric....i have had no issues with holes.. i cant even remember them being there.
Fabsil
This tent is very popular in The Netherlands. I sold one on a second hand website. Even when I mentioned that the tent is far from waterproof and I gave them a link to this movie, people still were determent to buy it. Some of the bidders told me that they wanted to use the tent for stealth / wild camping. Eventually I sold it to a guy who wanted to buy it because of his good experiences in the Dutch army.
A guy who served with the Dutch commandos who sold me some army surplus items told me that they only used this tent on bigger camp sites. Out in the field they used the hooped bivi bag. And preferably the double hooped bivi bag.
I have seen a desert camo version of this on another UA-camr's channel, he has taken it to various places in his country to camp, and when it rains he puts a tarp over it for water protection
Might as well just use the tarp lmao
I watch another UA-camr who has both models, he doesn't have an issue but I think he waterproofs it every year.
carlisles195 is the guy who has them.
didn't mean 4 same reply but my idea 2 "GrreaT mind's-A??"
John is the man..
Shame because they’re a great looking tent. If a manufacturer made a similar design with more modern materials and waterproof I’m sure it would be a hit.
The tie down lines at the corners need to be spread out further and would have cut down on the rain coming in at the corners. Won't guarantee no leaks but would cover the corners better.
Unfortunately that doesn't solve the issue with wind blown rain. - Luke
8:50 hey mister expert tent reviewer. the end of that zipper is supposed to go on the outside of the tent to prevent water from coming in. Also as already mentioned in the comments, this isn't a special forces tent, this is a regular dutch army tent.
Not a special forces tent. Every grunt in the Dutch army gets this. Nothing special forces about it.
And this is a 1 person tent. You can link them together to make them 2 or more persons.
90 bucks damn i pay 25 euro's for it and it is in better shape.
Yeah, but do you get free sand with it?!
Not a fair test. 1. It was made for colder climate 2. The zip ends on the corners are meant to be outside not in the tent. 2. The poles secure on the tabs on base of bath tub thus sealing the hole.as the corners push out You wouldn't have water in the corners 3. You didnt season the tent prior use 4. I've never seen bullets inside of surplus gear. PS I'm ex military. As I say Norway a fair test mines never jeaked and here in the UK we have more rain.
Not a fair test to the tent at all for one its a cavas tent take the extra few minutes to taught the canvas to let the rain run off and not puddle.water gathers on the creased canvas and slowly runs down the canvas getting the chance to find holes when taught it runs off the end not getting a chance to find holes.also the poles need to be Velcro on to the groung sheet thats what the velcro is for attached to the groung sheet it holds the canvas tight to the pole with the zips pressed up tight to the pole stopping water entering in to the zip the way u have set it up the wind and rain is blowing the side away from the pole allowing the rain to come inside the tent sorry but any poorly set up tent is going to leak tension canvas and secure poles with the velcro provided and defiantly will not leak like this poorly set up tent
It was designed for use in europe...at the time of this design our main worry was Russia.....so it was not mend to be used in the tropics or deserts...i used this tent alot when i was in the dutch army. its a great strong tent. i was once in a blizzard inside this tent and it did not break or fold.... It can take a beating from harse winters.... Great tent that never breaks!!
As much as I enjoy you channel Luke, you cocked up on this one with the setup. Its ok when put up right.
Pitch it properly then it’s fine. I’ve got one and it’s brilliant. Never experience any issue when it’s pitched properly.
this is not a special forces tent, it is a regular Army tent. the Dutch SF are using a Carinthia double hoop BIVI bag.
Thanks brother, I had seen it called the SF tent online so I went with it. - Luke
The regular dutch army also dont use these anymore.. for a long time.. we use the bivi bags too.. next to that the tent (pup tent is the correct name) is great.. you can connect 2 together and when its set up correct and serviced properly it works perfect..
www.google.nl/search?tbm=isch&q=Carinthia+double+hoop+BIVY&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpj6zw06zbAhXD0qQKHQdeC0EQBQg4KAA&biw=2560&bih=1310&dpr=1.5#imgrc=IN7zPxe2Vu2TuM:
I saw you put a tarp over a tent, as you were preparing for an ice storm under the trees... very biased statement you made there. But I still like the adventures you take us on, so I'll just do what I always do. Watch your show, but listen to informed people who do read the directions, before making any decisions. Thanx again TOGR
Was this comment meant for this video? I'm confused.
- Luke
This review is like brushing with the wrong end of a toothbrush and then saying the toothbrush sucks.
I mean all the faults you mentioned could have been avoided if you set the tent up the right way.
mines been set up out side for 6 weeks and no leaks at all in an English winter.. ice, hail, rain -10. zip tags should be pushed through to hang outside, to drip water away. also your end guys were too long and should be out at 45 dgs. this tensions the canvas and affords greater over hang cover. the poles are secured at the base by velcro straps, lifting the ground sheet higher and pulling the 3 zippers in tighter. its not a tabbing tent, but more a base camp or for a transport/service crew. otherwise like the Brits, use a tarp or ponch or two rather than hump 15lbs of soggy canvas around. a bug mesh would benefit.
It needs correct tensioning to be waterproof.
I hate to contradict you as I know you mean well but these tents are extremely good when maintained and pitched correctly
Haha... Yep, that sounds about right! If there's one army that's constantly being given the worst shit and forced to go "thank you" for the privilige, it's us Dutchies. Special Forces tent? Dutch soldiers be like: "Special Needs Tent, more like" But it's a standard PUB tent, nothing SF about it. I got that same piece of shit in basic training 20 odd years ago. Yeah, with proper care it will withstand a deluge, but by God is it a big, heavy and outdated piece of kit. Yours dates from back in 1994: KL94
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Well it beats the tent half we had when I was in the Dutch army.
There's a Dutch Army?
Tom Donhavjuan funny
SO FUNNY ON THE FLOOR HERE !
whatever you say
And yet, it's still better than the US Army Pup tent I was still being issued in 2003.
thank you for these videos not only are they fun but they help us from making the mistake of buying poor products. Really appreciate the channel and all you do Luke! Cant wait for another military overnight adventure!
These tents are awesome. My buddy has one and we use it in the fall during hunting season in northern Alberta. Never had a problem with water or anything.
i used this tent all year around while in the dutch army no problems what so ever.
I got mine cheap but don't mind that I will have to put waterproof tape on the corners. I used mine in the winter and while I was comfortable in mine my friends in their tents(not Dutch Army)froze. That sold me.
The mine has no holes and is perfect
I've had my British Armed forces tent for 17 years, never had issues with it. Same tent just different nation. Really to be used with a basha over the top.
If this were $20 or less, id say its worth it to set up for kids to play army in. But $90 for a bulky heavy tent that isn't even water or bug proof is a joke.
If you got it in any of the army dump stores over here you'd probably find them way cheaper.
it is an army tent. you really expect that to be lightweight and small? these are supposed to last a lifetime so they have to be thick and bulky
I have one of these. When put up properly, it was the only tent to not have leaked like a sieve when all the modern ones were filled bathtubs in a heavy downpour. Nice and cozy. Definitely not two man, you'd struggle to get your gear in along with you. Bloody heavy for the size for sure. It's a very warm tent for winter.
You kinda need to set it up right. You didn't put the poles where they belonged on this type of tent, the poles go inside the bottom and fill the zipper hole.
Regardless it's a military tent meant to be durable and last being banged around and guys not giving on crap about. Someone that takes care of their equipment should definitely not look at mil surplus. Remember military buys things for decades or more of service of men that don't give ***** about the military's stuff.
This is exactly what a former Dutch soldier told me. They treated their equipment very rough.
It is not a two-man tent. Only a one-man tent and not from the special forces either. The tent is also the old version, the new version does not have these holes on the zippers. You can't just say it's bad. The processing is really good.
I'm not sure what the problem is. The holes aren't a flaw, they're a feature. How many tents function as both a shelter AND a water catchment? And don't forget the benefit of 15 lbs. Throw away your P90X and just carry the tent around. What a gem!
Tip of the Day, Don't Smash Your Face....with your tent! - Luke
True. It is a well know internet fact that most Dutch Special Forces injuries are a result of tragic tent injuries. That and wooden shoe injuries.
This is a Dutch military tent from the 90ies. It's not special forces but it was used in the regular army. It's not in use anymore.
Remember, any military tent was made by the lowest bidder.
The lowest bidder that meets the requirements, that is. Very important difference. And with all those zippers, this is probably not cheap to make.
So while the workmanship, I'm sure, is excellent, the idea behind it is failed. It tries to be too many things at once.
Whose failure is that? The committee that designed it.
Hi there, FYI; That is just a standard Dutch military tent from the nineties! It was made in the same year I entered the service (1994) and I had that tent too. Maybe just slept in it during one exercise! After that just in the sleeping bag with a waterproof outer liner. (those sleepingbags were great btw!)
So it is not SF! Even more, at around 1996/97, when I bought my Hilleberg Nammatj 3GT tent, Dutch commando's received new tents from Hilleberg as I once read somewhere. I don't know whether it was a pilot or something. I never saw them In real live. It was a one person tent with special custom khaki colors. The story had a photo with it containing three of those tents on a small hill covered with grass and some trees on top. Don't know the type anymore. That story was the reason I started to look at Hilleberg! Before I was orientating at TNF tents. I still have the nammatj until this day, with an extra door from the start.
Oh, and that zipper end. When you place it on the outside instead of the inside, the water will drip to the outside instead of into the tent! But it is not a great tent! Imagine taking this with you, that wet on a campaign! Wet it is very heavy, plus chances are you get fungus growth inside and it stay damp all the way!
You could get a decent civilian tent for around the same price, without the rain and weight issues.
Yes and the volume...
sorry your wallmart special doesnt qualify.. gl on finding a tent of that size for 90$ that is all climate... and if you didnt notice he set the tent up in a gully its going to get wet... there is no such thing as a waterproof tent anyone who tells you that is selling something... even waterproof treated nylon or other synthetic fabrics moment you touch the inside of it. game over... short of 100% plastic/rubber liner/wall no tent ever is waterproof and poor placement isnt a excuse. the tent had very minimal dmg, its used surplus for $90 you cant say thats a fail. its not survival gear. its deployment gear...so crying about the weight is also bullshit thats like crying about a canvass wall tent is heavy... DERP.
In the immortal words of Nigel Powers... ''The Dutch''
I've bought myself one. I really like this tent I've just bought another one for my son. Yer they are heavy tent. But what I liked was they don't rattle in the wind. They are darker inside on a night. Seems and feels warmer inside. I've not had a downpour test yet, but held up to a light rain. I did notice the gap where the 3 zips meet. I just put my bottle of pop in front just to block it a bit. Cant wait to see how they join up.........
It's crap. Any water is unaceptible.
William Nelson, it wasent set up correct. So basicly you can't judge the tent after that test.
If he can't set it up right then I am sure I can;t. I will pass.
When this model was introduced it was in fact a huge improvement to the previous the dutch military used.
If this were the 1960's, it would be an adequate tent. Today, there are so many better options that this tent does not deserve any consideration.
what part of used military surplus didnt you comprehend? and are you clueless honestly at the prices of 4 season tents? go price a 2man 4 season at REI... then say $90 wasnt worth it... *facepalms* and used surplus as he clearly stated at the beginning is a crap shoot on what you get.... he could got one in pristine condition or even worse then that. $90 for that tent a good deal user operator error by setting a tent up in a gully where water going to pool up isnt a reason to consider that tent a fail.
Syc holic, what part of 'better options' didn't YOU understand? Go check out Alps brand tents before you show your ignorance to the world. Do you really consider that "Dutch" tent a 4 season tent? Are you deaf or just too stupid to understand the review when he said that he would not use that tent during the warmer months because of poor ventilation. Honestly, you must have a single digit IQ or you are an REI sales person if you think that tents are only available at REI. Did you actually watch the video or do you just have a 2 second memory retention? The tent was not set up in a gully which caused the water to pool up inside the tent. That was caused by leakage, as explained in the video, and the natural terrain found in any reasonable camp site. Have you actually ever been camping? Please crawl back under the bridge and play with the other trolls there.
what part of that dont you understand or you deaf or stupid? when you finally come up with a single valid point why $90 for a survival 2man 4season tent is not worth the money you going to spend then talk otherwise just stfu trollphail cuz you not even on topic STILL...
Obviously, you are too ignorant to understand that I did not say that a $90 survival tent is worth the money spent on it. I said that this particular tent is not worth any money spent on it. Did you check out the alternatives out there? Of course not. That would be the intelligent thing to do. Even a cheap Eureka tent is better than this one. So, I have mentioned 2 alternatives so far and you have obviously ignored researching them as an alternative. In addition, you mentioned that this tent is also a surplus tent at this price. I can sell you a vintage North Face VE25 4 season, 3 person tent for less. This tent, and others that can be found used, are orders of magnitude better than this military surplus tent. If you can not find my "point" in this discussion, then you are just lost.
I find it curious why you are so adamant about defending this tent. Have you purchased one and bragged about how well it works to your friends? BTW, try speaking/writing in complete sentences with proper grammar and punctuation when you post something in public. You will find that it helps your credibility with the public and later in your professional life, when you grow up.
R V One of the reasons nationalism is a bad thing. Defending a shitty tent irrationally due to the fact there aren't any proper (known) alternatives in the country.
here's a thought its call 100 mile in a hour tape,and also most soldiers i know from foreign counties also carry a thing called a camouflaged tarp,and paracord to tie down the tarp.
Condoms lol 😂😂
haha This tent needs a 'rain jacket.' - Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview awesome video. Just like everyone, I enjoy the surplus stuff 👍👍 keep it up, Luke
I've seen two people doing it in a one man tent. I'm like why, we've only been out in the field for a week and none of you bathed
Dutch boy scouts like it wet...
You get into the tent and put the condoms over your feet to keep them dry
Mine came with a wooden shoe and part of a windmill blade in it. Good car camping tent if you understand its limitations. I don't take it out if rain is in the forecast. If if does rain I just throw a tarp over it. It is great in the wind. Price is good.
Just as a correction to your video, this tent is not used by the Dutch SF or other special units. They are not even issued to them. This tent is only standard issue for the regular units. Special units tend to make shelters with only their poncho and or a bivaque sack.
I got mine on Saturday. Stunk with mold n mildew. BUT...the worst part is mine was moth eaten. From the inside, it looks like it was shot with a shotgun with bird shot. I thought about returning it, but I don't know if I'd get a better one. Also, if it had been cheaper, I probably wouldn't care. Gonna hang onto it just for collection. Mine came from Sportsman's guide. I agree about this being a great cool or Cold weather setup. Thought about a second tent hooked up and setting it up with a stove jack & zip out section of the floor. So one for stove/gear & one for sleeping.
If you got it from a a dumpshop in either the netherlands itself or belgium you could've taken a good look at it and probably not paid 90, which I hope you have not.
For the weight and size it looks to be a great small car camping tent. I would not lug it more than half a mile or one kilometer.
Looks like an oldskool dutch camping tent, super durable but heavy… Maybe Tatteljee made these, they still make these super durable storm proof tents.
I have used many tents. The dutch Army tent (Not special force or so) is a bit heavy but perfect specially in Summer because of the usr of canvas.
Its also ok in other(wet or cold) condituons. But if you dont want to take care (waterproofing) a bit, you will get disappointed.
I love this tent and use ist since 5 years.
For a similar price, I recently bought a Vango tent with roughly two times the internal space and 2/3 the weight. I've not been out in wet weather (yet) but there are no obvious holes like in this one. The two advantages this Dutch tent has are really substantial poles and a relatively fast pitching time. My current one take me a leisurely ~20 minutes when I'm in no hurry, but that's working solo rather than with any help. Those Dutch poles aint gonna bend or split in a hurry. My previous Vango tent had the poles split on me which it a big part of why I retired it and got a new one of a different design.
My brother has one of these it's fantastic just needed waterproofing and then you can throw it in the back of the Land Rover for military shows.
Wouldn't want to use it in winter though.
I'll stick with my basha and 58 pattern poncho for yomping over hills.
These were quite cheap as surplus tents in the UK a few years ago. They have a very limited use and several people I know that still use them (most have abandoned them or given them to the kids for garden camping) tend to use them for base camp storage as they are sturdy and ideal for throwing bulky items in etc.
I used it when i served in the Dutch Army,... i only had this, so no comparison,... I was better then being outside in the rain,.. wuch one do you recomend?
This is my ATV camping tent (because of the weight.) It is very warm in the winter. It works great for me.
Love the vids bro. I use this tent a lot but then I do wild camp in Scotland. It’s a canvas tent and you must use Fabsil gold periodically to re-proof it otherwise it will leak in. On our last outing we caught the tail end of a hurricane and it performed excellently and I’m talking torrential rain for 14 hours solid also the bathtub bottom is completely waterproof as I woke up with a mini river running under the tent and I never even noticed until I got out when the rain died off around 10am. I camp in big woodland so the rain comes straight down which makes the holes irrelevant and the camo is amazing in that environment. The benefits of this tent over a lighter tent are definitely when you cold camp, no bugs really not that bugs in the uk are a big problem and this tent holds the heat brilliantly. This tent is awesome for a good nights sleep as it keeps the light out far better than a light tent. However you can’t carry this tent far so car camping is the way forward not long mountain trekking. Hope this helps someone, thanks.
Hi Alan, good review. I also stay in Scotland. Would you recommend this tent? Want to get into wild camping and it would be "car camping" as you put it. It looks like a no frills, very robust tent; something basic to lay your head, right. I know your review is from three years ago, but if your still on UA-cam, your comments would be greatly appreciated.
Regards-John.
back in the day I ordered from Cheaper Than Dirt or Ranger Joe's back in 2000 and it was a French two-man tent. The only difference was it was OD and made out of canvas. It never leaked and was a great tent for sub 20 bucks.
Winter camping only. You plug the holes push mesh in , I would look for another. If someone gave me this tent that would be different. I would make it bug and rainproof.
I have 2 of these tents I've never had any issues with them at all been awesome for camping out in the bush I quite like them but I have seen a few bad reviews though
Like your review. Looks like a decent tent shortcomings aside.
Sometimes heavy canvas and to a degree lack of zippers/screening is not always an issue.
I recently purchased a brand new US "Shelter Half" tent for $20 and to be honest I prefer it to just about every pup tent I've used.
(In spite of the lack of floor or mesh and zippers). When wet it seems to shed the rain well and I sleep very well in it. (Nice and dark inside and does not make much noise in the wind). Might not be good in the deep south or tropics where insects sting, but here not bad at all.
It’s surplus .. so old style redundant. It’s strong and rugged not meant for a back pack trip.
These are to be delivered by air drop and or other means of military transport.
Above all these tents must survive storing and rough handling. In war time they maybe used 14 days at max.
So nor reason to see it as a good civilian tent use .
the weight of two rifles wow, thanks for sharing Luke
I have two of these ... There is only one (and main) problem : big bag and heavy tent . If you like hiking and camping , it's gonna be sooo interesting carrying this with you ... especially on the mountain . But i like those tents . :)
I have slept in that tent because a Group leader was in the army(korps mariniers) its a good tent
i love this tent used this in my army days . ok it has its flaws but for the designed climate to be used its not to bad at all. BTW the guys that sleep in these tent arent afraid of a little water or bugs
Deze tent is niet alleen voor de" special forces" het behoorde tot de bgu ( basis gevecht's uitrusting)van elke landmacht militair.
Sinds een jaar of 2 a 3 is deze tent niet meer in gebruik, zelfs niet meer bij de reserves.
Het was op zijn beurt de opvolger van de 2 halve tenten waarvan elke militair een helft had en die samen met zijn maatje moest samenknopen om er een tent zonder grondzeil van te maken.
Al met al dus een hele verbetering waar ik menig uurtje in heb doorgebracht,en dat de tent een "failure "is is een bullsh#t bewering.
de opvolger van deze dpm tent is de slaapzak met buitenhoes en boogje(bugfree), kort na invoering afgekeurd omdat je er niet snel genoeg uit kon komen in geval van nood doordat de ritsluiting van binnen en buitenzak tegenover elkaar zitten, vooral met lakenzak en in het donker tijdens een alarm een hele uitdaging!.
Test die maar eens Luke, dat zal nog eens hilarische beelden opleveren.
ps. Wie niet tegen beestjes en water kan kan beter bij mams thuis blijven.
I own one and it's amazing. To stop the water coming in tuck the zips outside and it works. 8:55