How to Shoot Fast like Lars Anderson Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2022
- In this tutorial, we will teach the archery technique for breaking world records in rate of fire.
As of 2022, this is currently the fastest technique with a bow and arrow.
No historical claims here.
-Mack's Tactical Archery / @allofarchery
-Martin Sporri / alfarevoluzione
In Nov 26, 2012, Lars Anderson created the most watched archery video of that time in UA-cam history called "Reinventing the fastest forgotten archery". Since then, there has been a growing number of speed shooters for sport.
The fastest technique for rate of fire depends on the number of arrows shot, so this video will focus on the fastest technique to shoot 3 arrows, and one by one, not simultaneously.
When the number of arrows are increased significantly to 15 or more, shooting off of quivers will be preferred, because there is a limit on how many arrows you can hold in your hands. This video guide only focuses on the fastest technique to shoot 3 arrows, not how historically accurate it is.
Music: HOME we're finally landing
Special thanks to Summoning Salt!
Video Script:
The techniques explained in this video are inspired by historical sources of archery but the focus of this video is the fastest archery technique, not how historically accurate it is.
For the choice of the bow, most bows are suitable. however the fastest technique avoid compounds and olympic bows with an arrow rest, with modern sights or stabilizers.
The optimal bow here is a short and light bow, without a modern arrow rest. Although longbows can be used as well, they are more cumbersome to move around with. This technique is usually combined with running or walking so a shorter bow is preferred.
The ideal draw weight is something you can personally pull and shoot rapidly and all day. That being said, very heavy weights can still be used with this technique but your rate of fire will be more limited. For example, here is me shooting 125lbs with this technique but im shooting a lot slower mainly because of the draw weight. If your max draw weight is around 80lbs, then it is recommended to use 40-50lbs for this technique.
For the choice of the arrow, any traditional arrows designed for the weight of the bow is good. the arrow nock can be of any design but generally speaking the wider the taper is, the easier it is to speed shoot but standard nocks can still be shot rapidly
you can make special nocks that allow you to easily nock arrows but they are not necessary with practice feathers is prefered but vanes can be used if khatra is performed well.
you can have a wide variety of fletching designs, but generally speaking two fletchings are the fastest because as long as they are glued in a consistent orientation you can line them up to have an arrow magazine on your draw hand. the main problem with three fletchings is you have to pre rotate the nocks while looking at the nocks but with two fletchings, you can instinctively do this without looking at the nocks. that being said, if the nock is flat enough you can just pre rotate the nocks instinctively by feel, and then fletching does not matter anymore unfletched arrows are not recommended for longer distanced shooting
For the bow hand, this technique tilts the bow on the opposite side of the modern trad cant. So a right handed shooter would tilt their left hand counter clockwise, while a left handed shooter would tilt their right hand clockwise. in ideal conditions the bow arm should still give clearance to the string but this is not always possible when shooting 360 degrees while on the move. There are many variations of the draw hand, and it can be debatable which variation is faster.
variation 1:
The first one is based on the conventional slavic draw from the book arab archery. The Slavs have a peculiar draw which consists of locking the little finger, the ring finger, and the middle finger on the string, holding the index finger outstretched along the arrow, and completely ignoring the thumb. However, when you use the slavic draw, your thumb is available to grip arrows in the draw hand so you can carry an arrow magazine.
The arrow is placed on the opposite side of Olympic archery. From here on the arrow is nocked on the string, and you place your middle finger and ring finger on the string. the pinky is often ignored by speed shooters.
variation 2:
same as variation 1 except the arrows are held in between the index and middle finger. Martin prefers this technique.
there are other variations such as using the thumb draw but it is slower.
for the fastest archery technique, the shortest draw length, say 7 inches, willl give you the fastest recovery time but you should pull to full draw or almost full draw.
Finally for the release, side khatra is typically preferred to allow a wider range of arrow spines but if you just want the fastest time then no khatra is used.
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im gonna use this technique for WW4, fought with sticks and stones
same
Let's form an army of rapid fire archers XD
I know right
Not only for WW4 but also apocalypse.
A i r s t r i k e s .....
It took him 7 years to make this tutorial, man i remember your channel started all because of this!
thanks man!
His channel is a wealth of information. Absolutely awesome guy.
Fantastic! I am mostly impressed by how fast you can throw an arrow off those monster bows... That is like a javelin coming at you every 3 seconds! I am glad we have the luxury of just doing this for fun :)
Thanks for watching
After years of shooting I developed neuropathy in the fingers. After trying different things I went with the thumb draw. I love it! Fingers are a bit better and now I can shoot all day without problems. Interesting video - thank you.
thank you very much for watching! i love the thumb draw too
All day? 1 or 2 hours a day should be enough.
I'm thinking of switching to a tnumbring too. My finger tips hurt after an hour of practice.
This was such an honor to work with you guys. You guys absolutely rock.
i just saw this on your facebook page, this is a super cool video
@@simuser6321 thank you so much for watching. Your totally awesome
This is a legendary collaboration. Mack and Martin are the top speed shooters in the world and Martin has epic speed shooting footages. Jack was just perfect for writing the script and video editing. Also no historical claims, just like how it was supposed to be! Awesome guys
Thank You so much.
Yes agreed
It is not Lars the top one speed shooters in the world?
@@Theo-jt7js yes but he was not interested to participate.
@@Theo-jt7js Mack shoots same speed as Lars but heavier draw weight. For 3 round burst
Fascinating stuff. I really hope you can put all your nerd-energy into this topic.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the following questions one day:
- Which technique is the simplest to set up/prepare for? In tactical/combat/military comtexts, which technique is possible to do without looking at your fingers and while distracted?
- Which technique strikes a good balance between possible draw weight and speed?
- Which technique is the most reliable/foolproof as it pertains to dry-firing? I am sure that one could actually just estimate it. Dry-fires per 100 or 1000 arrows shot. That could also be further differentiated into novices and experts of these techniques.
- Which technique is easiest to transition to from the perspective of a typical English Warbow shooter? Slanting the bow counterclockwise (as a right-handed shooter) sounds terrifying. Would the slavic draw allow for a regular clockwise slant with this speed technique? After all, the arrow is held in place by the index finger.
- Which technique is also applicable and still fast when supplied from a quiver? Meaning, which technique can seamlessly transition to getting arrows from the quiver. Any difference there between getting arroes one-by-one or multiple at a time?
- What is an arrow magazine?
Thanks for watching I’ll look into it
For your first point it’s the standard quiver draw
Thank you for sharing appreciate ya.
God Bless.
thank you very much for watching
You did an excellent job thank you so much
thank you very much for watching
Mack looks like a very talented speed shooter. i mean unlike Lars, he actual shoots with 50-70lb weights
@dance master meanwhile jack is just like screw 50lb, im doing 125lb. i can see him speed shooting 150lb soon
Lars Andersen's bow is a toy and he doesn't even full draw
Brilliant. man I'm so impressed. inspired actually. I'm going to step up my training :) your videos are really grate man. thank you for your existence.
Thanks for watching
Bro u a speed runner????
no i watch them
love summon salt
Same
Absolutely amazing! Love the ideas of combine archery with bicycle, skiing ... 😄 Nice to see some of my favourite archers in one video 👍👍👍
thanks
dont forget swimming pool and bed
Awesome collab
Glad you think so! thanks for watching
Niiice ! 🏹✔👍
Thanks dude, i still can't wait for you to try a Compound bow with thumb release, Armin hirmer did a video with the Oneida lever bow, but i also wanted to see a compound bow, that would be awesome
His channel is historical archery
awesome video
Absolutely excellent video content and techniques used for fast shooting. Both are my Brothers and I know how they practice their techniques and they are amazing. Hey Jack well done 👊😀
thank you so much for watching
Ur absolutely awesome. And thank u so much.
Not a single historical claim just how it was supposed to be
Amazing.
I tried that Slavic Release, but with bare fingers it´s get difficult for me to shoot 40 lbs for longer time.
Having a nice thumb ring, I wonder what would be an efficient and fast method using it.
Any suggestions?
Thumb draw techniques are fast too when u held at nock as well. But the ring can obstruct the nock making it slightly slower. we have evidence from arab archery holding them with ur draw hand at the centre of arrow wolverine style
@@HistoricalWeapons i see.
Yes, i tried that "Wolverine" Style keeping the arrows between the right three fingers, tips forward.
And also holding the nocks in my fist with the right three fingers, tips pointing right.
@@chmux whicch one you find the fastest
@@HistoricalWeapons i don't know yet. That's why i asked. 🙂
Right now i'm not really into fast shooting yet. I'm looking for a relaxed and efficient way.
Amazing! Reeealy straight forward, honest and with no absurd and disrespectfull claims as done by Lars Andersen. Congratulations on all your content!
thank you very much for watching
What are you talking about, how on earth has lars offended you
@@triptank7857 Lars made a pretty quick video with some claims that weren't all that accurate. Normal people recognise this was because the video is short and was aimed at non archers. However, some archers totally lost their minds and have been crying ever since.
@@vurtigoneiii275 Haters gonna hate.
0:37 gonna destroy my alarm clock like this
Seen :)
I've seen you feom way back in the day, but this is true quality. Great job!
Awesome! Thank you!
This video was awesome. I've been looking for a tutorial for days. Thanks!
Mack has such a smooth nock and draw. I would love to shoot like he does. Thanks for the video HA it’s the most comprehensive and specific I’ve seen on this style of Saracen speed shooting!
Thank you!! 2-3 seconds per shot was my limit. After seeing this I shaved 1.5 seconds off by holding at the nocks! I gave up on speed shooting, but now I'm determined!
5:30 - 7:10 I love seeing the comparison here, Mack has helped me too so I'm glad to see other perspective on his and Martin's methods too along with yours since I've seen a few videos of you shooting wicked fast so the draw hand orientation is one of those things I keep on going over during my own practice using Slavic
Great Video. But i dont speedshot like Lars. I dont even kmow Lars. And neva sah a tutorial of Lars.
Highly interesting. Im working on a fantasy story and there are archers. This was just the type of in-depth information I was looking for, great video, on topic, concise yet detailed. No unnecessary clutter
Very thorough and useful information. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very informative, thank you!
High quality content ! Thank You !
Thanks for watching
I am a new archer and very interested in speed shooting. Thank you kindly for making this informative video. Thumbs up!
I truely love these techniques, I personaly chose to maintain thumb draw with long arrows holding arrows Lars Andersen style, like wolverine. It is easier to maintain the arrows there while moving I think. But of course I am not as fast as Lars, my speed rate is about one arrow every two seconds but shooting this way I can be consistent.
The Ottoman style, holding arrows close to the tip is easier in a big forest on the other hand
yes the wolverine style has solid textual evidence and the author claims its the fastest
Historically speaking, no, we do not have solid evidence of the combination of slavic + arrows held at nocks with draw hand.
The closest source we have is from Arab archery, specifically:
"Another way to do this stunt is by placing the arrows between the fingers of the right hand thus: the nock of each arrow between two fingers when the arrows are only three; if they be six, then place two arrows between each two fingers, or if they be nine, three arrows between each two fingers; or more as you are able. Then follow the rest of the operation as described in the previous paragraphs."
however, we have no specifics on if the release is a thumb or finger draw, but it is assumed to be thumb since the slavic draw was described as "peculiar" by the author of Arab Archery
It fascinates me why there is no solid mention of this technique in history, in the context of stunt shooting.
in this video the focus is on the fastest archery technique, not how historically accurate it is
Question, does 2 fletch make the arrow less accurate? I ask because far as I k ow the fletch is literally just to create drag to make sure the point is first, so in theory should have a minimal effect... But I ask because reality doesn't always match theory and you'd know better than I.
@@sarchlalaith8836 yes it does but not noticeable at close range . Crossbow bolts are also two fletch and some natives used it. 4 fletch more accurate
@@HistoricalWeapons hmm then I shall have a serious ponder about a speed based arrow rest suitable for speed shooting on the left of the bow as a right hander
... That's a sentence and a half :l
@@sarchlalaith8836 no worries good luck
Awesome techniques, it has such a flow to it. Very fun to watch, and to practice!
Glad you enjoyed it!
that swimming pool scene was hilarous
Great information, great video
Hey Jack! It’s been a minute and I really enjoyed this and pretty much all your material. Godbless and talk soon🙏
Great video, thanks very much for doing the work on this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the interesting video.
Glad you enjoyed it
This is a great video
Loosing arrows from a bike is post-apocalyptic awesomeness.
Thanks :)
Thank You 😊
What a cool video!!!
Thanks a ton for the video! I've been working up the knowledge and wisdom to enter into the world of fast archery (I am a complete beginner) for some time now and am currently trying to decide on equipment. I was hoping for some suggestions on bows, arrows and any other equipment suggestions. But mainly I'm looking for the "right" bow. Thanks for any help and again for the super helpful video.
I prefor Koreans, but you must touch the Bow, shot and then decide.
This was helpful thanks friend im getting much faster i think once i learn the arrow magazine right aide of the bow technique im gonna be BLAZIN 😎 im still shooting off the left side but pretty quick
Good it just came at time, more of technics pls :)
More to come!
@@HistoricalWeapons Great! Very interesting man 😁👍
@@mouahrewam thanks
Fun summoning salt reference in the music :)
World record
That sounds cool, I became interested in archery and considering to pick up a bow, would you recommend learning to shoot with this technique from the beginning? are there also any downsides to this way of shooting?
I am unimpressed by people who do this with low poundage bows. I imagine historically they would have used war bows for this.
i think its nice to make a wide variety of content not just warbows
@@HistoricalWeapons were bow weights for this ever specified historically?
@@mdstmouse7 not for speed shooting, no specific numberss. most of this was designed for stunt shooting anyway
I'm glad this is being brought up. When they finally make the movies of how the native Americans fought of the Spanish on horses would be a 1st great one.
no historical claims unlike LARS ANDERSON
Yes yes
Good video.👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Dobar video.
0:38 okay that really made me spit out my water lol 😂
So if I'm a total noob and am interested in getting some kind of starter short bow and some arrows, do you have a specific recommendation?
Thanks! Very cool video.
i recommend a alibow fiberglass tatar bow of 30lb with arrows of 30" length and 500 spine
epic
Awesome
thanks for watching
Thanks for illustrating!
I get the problem that when I release with my fingers in this style, the arrow cants during release and knocks against the bow towards the right.
Only if Iinclude the thumb to release towards the right, the arrow flies free around the bow.
How did you guys deal with this issue?
I made some hard leather thumb rings Try that
Beast
Ypu can actually shoot even faster. Holding the arrows in the bow hand, heads facing forwards (like you’re nocking it) means you can just pull a arrow from said grip to instantly nock it and fire with a single movement. This saves time when nocking. This technique was used by Comanche archers, and was proved so effective that soldiers at the time using firearms struggled to deal with them.
That’s not the meta
There has never been and there will never be a gifted archer like Lars Anderson on this planet.
my problem with lars is his claims of how historical his techniques are
At speed shooting and trick shots maybe but there's a reason we don't see him taking part in any competitions. I'd love for him to enter one so we can see how good he really is
@@elobiretvhe visto varios de sus videos. Ese Man está acostumbrado a no fallar. Siempre da en el objetivo es algo difícil de creer. Pero he visto sus videos
Not even in Speedshooting. He cheat and video edit his Videos. Lars shot 6 Arrow in 10 Seconds. A Turkish Horseback Archer recorded him in 2019@@elobiretv
My God!!! This man's a damn Savage
Agreed
Hi! This is an awesome video! I subscribed to your channel because of it. I spent yesterday watching a bunch of other videos of yours and they are great! I especially liked your classification video.
I have a couple questions if you could answer them I would really appreciate it.
(please forgive my naivete since I don't know much of anything about archery, but I am desperate to learn)
1. What bow or bows does Lars Andersen use?
In his hour and a half video "Lars Andersen reveals the TRUTH about the most viewed archery video ever made" at the 22:30 mark he has a hundred pound bow (too heavy for me) and I would like to know what his other two bows he has are. Could you please tell me what they are? I searched and searched and can't find the information. My Googlefu was weak I guess.
1. His "usual bow" 49 pounds, colored green and red - looks like a very short horse bow - do you know who made it and what it's called?
2. He has a white/tan bow that looks nearly identical to his usual bow which he does not discus but I think implies is his trick shooting bow. My guess is that it's his half strength bow for trick shooting and is 20-30 pounds. Do you know what type of bow this is and who makes it?
Thank you very much for your help. Please keep making your videos they are amazing!
1 a light bow typically without arrow rest 2 looks like a grozer but he partial draws it 3 i dunno which one but its lighter
glad your watching thanks
@@HistoricalWeapons Thank you! I really appreciate it
In Lars most viewing Video he declare hes Bow at the end of the Video: Kaya Windfighter 25 lbs at 31" Lars Draw 26 so it turns into a 15 lb Bow. Lars never make 100 lbs....
@@AlfaRevoluzione Thank you Martin! I subscribe to your channel, you make great Bows and videos!
most anything slavic related to archery was taught by mongols
like switching from open hip tubes to quivers which secure arrows
switch to curved mongol bows
change in horse archery etc
Nope, European Giants (Giant = Hun) ride east, paired with mongol Woman ... came bak free Europe from Rome...
@@AlfaRevoluzione what is that even supposed to mean
You should consider quad fletching or rotating your fletchings 90°. Your orientation of fletching forces the fletching to travel along the bow, creating inconsistencies. Fletching should never be exactly perpendicular to the bow, mostly for paradox consistencies. The dual fletching arrangement enduces a lateral force as the arrow leaves the bow.
Edit, Note: Rotating your 2 fletching setup 90° will force the fletching to rid along your bow hand. Do not do this if you are using a hand rest or wearing an appropriate glove, or the fletching will embed itself in your hand.
LOL, do you hear of Syde Khatra?
In terms of speed shooting as fast as you can u don’t need that
Quad fletching is more volume in fingers so slightly slower for the context of max speed
you three did a great job
the legend is back!
These guys are absolutely awesome
Historical archery is a super legend
@@AllofArchery agreed
I use a hard leather thumb ring Your thoughts (subscribed today)
Great video. Lars Anderson is another excellent source
Yes and Lars verified with me that he uses variation 1 along with others
Aswome video! But i tried it, and when i shoot on the Right side of the bow (im right handed) The arrow's starts rotating when i shoot and goes abnormal Crooked. I tried whit an other bow but its the same action. Do somebody can help me out?
you need to tilt the reverse way and apply the index finger to prevent arrow from falling for beginner, or use torque for method two but thats more difficult
Must hav a good Fletsching Arrow
excellent vid
Aight, get this dude a green hoodie and some boxing glove arrows...
Why don't you make a 3d-printed custom wide nocks, much wider than the V-nocks that fit a regular diameter carbon shafts? that would be really helpful
Yes it can be done and It will optimize ur speed. There’s no need if your goal is to just have fun. If ur goal is to break world records speed nocks that are 3D printed are good
What type of bows do you use
Horse bows
what is the standart lbs for rookie?
Maybe 30 lb
5:22
Time stamp for drawhand technique
I fucking love HOME this is great 👍 ❤ 💓 💛
Same
It is Andersen with an E. Not an O. :)
Yes, E like Video E-dit . Lars speed up his video and add sound effects.
The part where he was in bed, let me know he was really serious
😂
This is awesome!
Okay this is funny and cool lol
Thanks
What is the name of this technic
SPORRI SYSTEM
Modern speed shooting or Slavic draw with arrow magazine
whats the point of speed if you never pull it to its full draw weight? these arrows are bouncing off every enemy...
LOL, do you wanna be my Target?
awesome
nice
thanks for watching
Slavic release?
The video explains it all
🤗💪🤗💪👍👍🤗
Is this korean bow?
yes
This is some mall ninja shit.
My little sister called she wants her bow back
These bows are optimized for breaking world records in this niche. Not designed for anything else
Legend
Lars must be crying out of joy XD
how come
i talk to lars regularly no crying
He's happy for people to learn
Lars wont see ppl faster and stronger. He neva made a Tutorial. I learn nothing from mr. Video editing Anderson
1:01 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why is it that we never see the target result from this speed shooting?
If you can’t hit what you are aiming at but are fast why bother..
It’s impressive but it would be more impressive to see the results in the target.
I’m assuming the arrows are just being sprayed out in front or these archers, some in the ground,some in the air and maybe some in a target 20 metres away.
Nothing indicated that this style of shooting was more accurate than trying to hit the side of a very big barn right in front of the archer.
yes they are sprayed thats why its not a very viable technique. this technique is designed to break world records of speed shooting, not accuracy
Epic
Summoning salt?
isnt it perfect eh
@@HistoricalWeapons 😂 I like it
He isn't Swedish, it's Andersen
That can't be more than a 35lb bow...
Check my second most recent short it’s speed shooting 100lb with tension scale
Speed Shoot 100lb Lars Anderson style
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