RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) ALBUM REACTION | BY A SWIFTIE HISTORIAN

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  • @codybarnes857
    @codybarnes857 Рік тому +359

    Forever Winter is NOT about Jake.
    She had a VERY close friend commit suicide the week Speak Now dropped, Forever Winter was posthumously begging him not to.

    • @juanluissanjose7535
      @juanluissanjose7535 Рік тому +34

      This is a reaction video how was he supposed to know 😭

    • @xpepelee
      @xpepelee Рік тому +89

      @@juanluissanjose7535well in the title it does say “Swiftie Historian” soooo

    • @jonasreich3607
      @jonasreich3607 10 місяців тому +16

      ​@@xpepelee tea 🍵

    • @jolandagjika2020
      @jolandagjika2020 5 місяців тому +12

      Well we all miss some things.It's not the biggest mistake in the world.

  • @eschrad
    @eschrad 3 роки тому +641

    My initial reaction to I Bet You Think About Me was similar to yours, but honestly… seeing the music video now… I think it’s Taylor being cheeky and playing the role that she was cast in by either how people (JG) saw her or how the country industry wanted her to be. Kind of like she did with Blank Space.

    • @st0r4g36
      @st0r4g36 3 роки тому +87

      Exactly, my initial reaction was like oh IBYTAM def walked so Blank Space could run

    • @AllTheArtsy
      @AllTheArtsy 2 роки тому +45

      yeah, she was LARPing the yeehaw country girl that people thought/assumed/groomed her to be

    • @jennivee5621
      @jennivee5621 2 роки тому +81

      For me it was so obvious she was playing an exaggerated character! Im surprised he took it so seriously. I thought it was hilarious lol

    • @wickywicky3811
      @wickywicky3811 2 роки тому +18

      @@jennivee5621 Me too bestie, it was kind of obvious ahahaha he has even said it before, that this is truly her sense of humor

    • @emcee5922
      @emcee5922 Рік тому +16

      Exactly! He thought he was so much better because she was "country" and so that meant she wasn't as rich, wasn't as cultured, wasn't as smart. It's a joke, her playing up the stereotypes ppl forced her into

  • @miguel-ec3dc
    @miguel-ec3dc 3 роки тому +575

    the devil works hard but the taylor swiftologist works harder

  • @anabergespolo8631
    @anabergespolo8631 3 роки тому +481

    The thing is, you need to know a lot about Jake Gyllenhaal to understand I Bet You Think About Me and that no, it was no satire she really was feeling that way when they were dating.
    Yes, you are right that Taylor didn't grow up poor by any stretch of the imagination, but Jake was quite literally Hollywood royalty. She was upper middle class growing up but he was rich RICH growing up, he grew up in Beverly Hills and his mother was an actress that had been nominated to an Oscar and then was a successful movie producer, she was besties with Jamie Lee Curtis who called herself "Jake's Hollywood godmother" because she was the one who introduced him and his older sister to the movie scene (yep nepotism at its finest) and he even mentioned in an interview that the PAUL NEWMAN taught him how to drive. And on his father's part well, his family was literally swedish aristocracy (LITERALLY related to the current royal family).
    Meanwhile, when Taylor dated him was during the autumn that she was releasing Speak Now, and while yes she was the new hot thing that had just won several Grammys, she only had two albums out and was a young country singer that had never experienced that level of VIP access to the upper class circles, as she puts it. So yeah while she has never been poor I do believe the daughter of a banker and a stay at home mum would have felt intimidated visiting California with him (where they went together before she did her Ellen interview) and seeing the level of opulence he grew up with, and if his family's inner circle of friendships growing up included people like Paul Newman and Jamie Lee Curtis I very much doubt they would have felt super impressed with a young Taylor with only two albums out at the moment she visited (which was right before Speak Now)

    • @kaceeharrison3715
      @kaceeharrison3715 Рік тому +44

      Plus Jake was the one who had the keychain that said "fuck the patriarchy"
      I'm so annoyed by people still to this day using that as a way to prove Taylor didn't write this song back then

    • @lkcullen1918
      @lkcullen1918 Рік тому +26

      @@kaceeharrison3715 Same! Especially with the ATW short film showing him throwing HIS keys at her, and that's why the keychain was on the ground.

  • @liz.a314
    @liz.a314 3 роки тому +324

    omg i love how real you are with your opinion and not just 100 p supporting everything taylor does no matter what - it's a way more fun and unique watch xx

    • @liz.a314
      @liz.a314 3 роки тому +18

      excited for the film react!

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +41

      thanks legend, its on its way!

  • @shanegriffin6637
    @shanegriffin6637 3 роки тому +475

    Not going to lie Nothin’ New might be one my new favorite sad songs. The production is so good. And Phoebe makes it even better.

    • @elcabronculero3
      @elcabronculero3 Рік тому +20

      I swear, it’s amazing. Absolutely loved the blend of Phoebe’s voice.

  • @TheNraveles
    @TheNraveles 3 роки тому +221

    Forever Winter is pretty much agreed on by most people it’s about Jeff Lang, her best friend who died from an OD.

    • @codybarnes857
      @codybarnes857 Рік тому +47

      ​@@jimbob2427 There's a video of her accepting a songwriting award where she said that it was an extremely emotional week for her because she had just released an album (Speak Now) and also because she had a very close friend that she used to send every single song she wrote to first, and she had sung at his funeral the day before. Forever Winter is about suicide.

  • @celestineferaud5080
    @celestineferaud5080 10 місяців тому +24

    FINALLY Some respect is put on Run's name 😭😭😭 I feel like everyone brushed past it but it's sooo good ??? Like the imagery of it all, the tempo, the vocals, the way they respond to each other whattt this is what Taylor Swift's collabs with male singers is all about !!

  • @quinroseman7233
    @quinroseman7233 3 роки тому +607

    i’m terrified of the reputation recording. that’s probably her most complex album production wise. Like they contain so many tiny tiny details like if she fucks up king of my heart i’m gonna fight

    • @monroelenaharris
      @monroelenaharris 3 роки тому +108

      at least she’ll be able to have jack as the og producer which means she should hopefully be able to do it almost note for note

    • @GabrielFerreira-ue8hs
      @GabrielFerreira-ue8hs 3 роки тому +34

      Most songs on that album have the same chord progression, same synth piano played by Jack and vocoder.

    • @myblood8622
      @myblood8622 3 роки тому +64

      same with 1989. In fact, especially 1989. I hope Max Martin will be producing those songs because if he won't i don't know how messy it could all get

    • @kyleexwhy
      @kyleexwhy 3 роки тому +14

      @@myblood8622 I think the Elvira credit on girl at home is taylor signifying that she will take the lead on some tracks in Max's absence.

    • @quinroseman7233
      @quinroseman7233 3 роки тому +13

      @@GabrielFerreira-ue8hs idk listen to the backing of so it goes, there’s so many tiny tiny details, like the chain switches every time, and there’s a little bubble effect idk i’m just worried

  • @BeMoreAwareGodWatches
    @BeMoreAwareGodWatches Рік тому +31

    thank you for being so honest with your reviews of her re-recorded songs because honesty is why I’m here watching you right now so please don’t ever stop. Love you!

  • @causeimnachoprincess
    @causeimnachoprincess 2 роки тому +57

    idk if someone said this already but Forever Winter is about Jeff Lang, Taylor's friend who killed himself around the time of Speak Now's release. She sang at his funeral and if you watch her accepting the 2010 BMI songwriting award, she talks about it and you can really see how much that shook her.

    • @Alice-od3bw
      @Alice-od3bw 2 роки тому +3

      @@jimbob2427 Why would there be??!!

  • @lau2955
    @lau2955 2 роки тому +104

    Apparently, Forever Winter is about a friend that committed suicide. Can't remember the name but she mentioned him in an award acceptance speech.

    • @nikik.8761
      @nikik.8761 Рік тому +20

      jeff lang, and i believe it was a speak now award she won

  • @oliver11235
    @oliver11235 3 роки тому +96

    29:30 there is absolutely no way she wrote that and then cut it from the track and didn't use it in another song. It's just too good

  • @robertafilippo7502
    @robertafilippo7502 3 роки тому +204

    What I think is: she had a “10 minute” song that did NOT sound like that at all in the past and now she’s even more talented than she was she decided to make this masterpiece that we just heard… especially the end of the song really reminds me of the “Folklore” style, so I do believe the inicial song was longer, but I pretty sure she changed some of the lyrics. The “I was never good at telling jokes but the punch line goes: I’ll get older but your lovers stay my age” she couldn’t have written this verse back in the day… only nowdays. But whatever: the song is just * PERFECTION *

    • @AllTheArtsy
      @AllTheArtsy 2 роки тому +36

      More to the point, Jake Gyllenhal has dated women younger and OLDER than him. It's only his current girlfriend that's much younger than him, so no, this was definitely not always written. Although everyone at first listen always misunderstood the "fuck the patriarchy" line. It's totally possible Jake Gyllenhal had a fuck the patriarchy keychain in 20-whatever

    • @stevievaughan5096
      @stevievaughan5096 Рік тому +14

      i think what happened is that all too well used to be around 8 minutes which, to be fair, is closer to 10 than it is to 3, or even 5 which is how long it ended up being. she mentioned how it used to be “like 10 minutes long” and everyone kinda ran with the “ten minute version” thing so she felt pressured to make it at least 10 minutes. i think the 10 min version we did get was the original “10 minute version”, ending at the part before “and i was never good at telling jokes”. that part is retrospective and obviously couldn’t have written that part AT 21/22. in the short film we see sadie as taylor for the entire time EXCEPT when that part of the song comes on, now cutting to older, wiser, ginger taylor, where she’s telling her all too well story in the form of a book/memoir and not a song. this to me feels very intentional, like ‘hey this is my point of view on it now’. the runtime obviously still wasn’t 10 minutes so she created a long outro which just so happens to fit the vibe and intensity of the song. anyway sorry for that novel

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 Рік тому +9

      THANK YOU it’s so irritating to me when ppl say the F the Patriarchy keychain wasn’t real. Feels like a real lack of historical context. Just bc something wasn’t a part of the mainstream convo doesn’t mean no one knew abt it.

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +144

    When you said ‘her vocal is louder than the track’ that is my biggest note of this album: she sounds sooo close to the mic in every song, it didn’t need to be that way, and i hope she dials back literally going forward

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +52

      Yup it really isn’t mixed very well

    • @TheNraveles
      @TheNraveles 3 роки тому +50

      To me on the original red her vocals were too low, especially in all too well during the bridge it feels like her voice is just in the same volume of the instruments and it kinda drowns out her voice.
      It basically flipped

    • @paperbackenthusiast
      @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +4

      @@TheNraveles Fair point, even though you came for og all too well’s bridge like that 😂

  • @pickledcucumber8693
    @pickledcucumber8693 3 роки тому +110

    Omg you worked so hard to give this full album reaction to us in less than a day!

  • @iJamieM
    @iJamieM 3 роки тому +41

    Stan blondie but you can’t deny that yes 100% correct, she didn’t take her time with some of the songs. I know for a fact she didn’t considering some of the vocals were recorded in Belfast, and it was only 3 months before the album came out that she was there. It’s funny because folklore was an album where all the creators were apart but you’d never think it, but I’ve a gut feeling she probably did vocals and sent them off to someone who was producing.

  • @Chris-uq5vl
    @Chris-uq5vl 3 роки тому +93

    your reaction was definitely the most honest one i’ve watched!!! automatic subscription bestie omg. freaking love your energy!!!!!

  • @brynanderson375
    @brynanderson375 3 роки тому +48

    the just between us, did the love affair maim you too? part makes me cry every time...the ending gets me so bad

  • @elianab.1292
    @elianab.1292 3 роки тому +39

    after listening to the album I was waiting for you to upload it in a couple of days BUT YOU POSTED IT TODAY????? I stan

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +16

      I have to give the swifties what they deserve

  • @kyleexwhy
    @kyleexwhy 3 роки тому +162

    I definitely agree, I don't think this 10 minute version of all too well was written in 2011, I think she had a VERY rough 15 minute work tape that she revisited while recording folklore/evermore, and pieced some unused lyrics together with new lyrics to form this new version. I mean the last 3 minutes are a dead giveaway of that - the lyrics and melodies are NOT something she was writing 10 years ago. But it's such a masterful piece of art. Like how cool would it be if another artist like katy perry or lady gaga or beyonce went back to a song they wrote 10 years ago and rewrote it to fit their current era 🥲💞

    • @addionclouds
      @addionclouds 2 місяці тому +1

      There’s a real recording of her singing in 2012

  • @anjalishah2925
    @anjalishah2925 11 місяців тому +9

    I'm actually a new swiftie, it was after evermore when I got into Taylor Swift. I listened to Red for the first time when Taylor's Version was released and I always thought "Girl At Home" should've had a country song production rather than electropop. It was only after your video that I realised there actually IS one existing since long before😭 Thanks Zach.

  • @juniorcasemiro
    @juniorcasemiro Рік тому +26

    Coming straight from the 1989 TV reaction video just to see your reaction to the Max Martin tragedies 🤣🤣🤣
    “As anticipated, a giant snooze fest” got me WHEEZING

  • @taylorswiftlyricism1182
    @taylorswiftlyricism1182 2 роки тому +28

    messege in a bottle grows on you later that turns scary, Im obsessed with it.

  • @alisondawnsmith
    @alisondawnsmith 2 роки тому +26

    Listening to "Nothing New" with the retrospect is so empowering as a listener, can't imagine what it's like for Taylor to sing this song now

  • @maleo11.11
    @maleo11.11 Рік тому +35

    In "I Bet You Think About Me" ...When she talks about the farm, and that he on the other hand was this rich man, etc... and you think it's "delusional writing" I don't think she's writing what she actually thinks, but about what he made her feel, like she was this little country girl, and that he was better than her, from the music he likes to the city he's from, etc. He (Jake) was always condescending towards her and her music, her age, her jokes, her lyrics, everything.

  • @landonmillwood180
    @landonmillwood180 3 роки тому +32

    For Girl at Home I had the same reaction and I even said I wouldn’t listen to Taylor’s Version of it however the song is come around for me. I still do think the original is 100% better however I think she tried to do a 1989 Version of Girl at Home like she did with Love Story and maybe she originally wanted it like this (I don’t see her wanting it that way) and Scott wouldn’t let her as it was to synth pop which led it to being a country song.

  • @chavem
    @chavem 3 роки тому +45

    Oh my goodness the fact that Message In A Bottle is my new favorite bop and that I actually love the Girl At Home Remake (although it sounds more like the Willow Remix...)-
    I guess these songs are really dividing the fandom and I love seeing it

  • @tiny306
    @tiny306 2 роки тому +57

    Unpopular opinion: I love the new Girl at Home (as well as the original). It's so fun and brings a unique life to a song that kinda blends in with other (better) stuff on Red (I Almost Do, ATW, SBT, etc), which was the issue with the original. And being the closing song on the deluxe edition (not including SoG acoustic, which I think is fair considering it's just another arrangement of a song already on the album), it seemingly marks a direct line between Red and 1989 in sound.

    • @ZeroOhClock
      @ZeroOhClock Рік тому +10

      I didn't listen to the original of that song (didn't have the deluxe). I went back and...yeah the original is boring compared. I don't like EDM usually and yet it brings so much to that song. Like they're speaking to each other in a club in the new version. Gives the song a proper setting.

    • @yukitakeru4719
      @yukitakeru4719 Рік тому +8

      Maybe it's really unpopular but the original makes me sleep while the new one can make me dance to it. This is also the one that was supposed to be pop but maybe a specific man told her to make it more country, that's why the old one sound kinda lame to me

    • @haydennagy196
      @haydennagy196 Рік тому +5

      i’m obsessed with girl at home tv i love it way more than the og, it’s weirdly the same with me for wtny

  • @jillsarah7356
    @jillsarah7356 Рік тому +6

    Re: “F the Patriarchy,” I fully believe Jake Gyllenhaal was into that in 2012. I was a Gender Studies minor in college in upstate NY in 2006. Also Miss Blondie was writing “ But in your life you'll do things
    Greater than dating the boy on the football team” and “ Back then I swore I was gonna marry him someday
    But I realized some bigger dreams of mine” in 2008!!! Feminism was being DISCUSSED! By some!

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 Рік тому +5

      Just picture Jake Gyllenhaal picking up a F the Patriarchy keychain at a Brooklyn art market in 2010ish. This is so likely lol.

  • @Heretodaytmrw
    @Heretodaytmrw Рік тому +10

    how did he not burst out in tears during ronan

  • @thatsydvicious
    @thatsydvicious 9 місяців тому +8

    I couldnt listen to Ronan even before i became a mom. After becoming a mom it's just traumatizing

    • @AmIAllowedToCry013
      @AmIAllowedToCry013 9 місяців тому +3

      it’s absolutely heartbreaking. it’s my cry song. i absolutely love almost every child i meet and to think of this type of heartbreak makes me want to absolutely crawl into a hole and die

    • @soph2799
      @soph2799 3 місяці тому +1

      Big agree. Cannot listen to it as a mum. Impossible

  • @luliimakeup
    @luliimakeup Місяць тому +1

    I am watching this like 3 years later and I love that there are swifties out there who love red as much as I do. This was my first album as a swfitie back in 2012 and being able to revisit this era with the re-recording was something.

  • @jordancontests9228
    @jordancontests9228 3 роки тому +27

    I listened same order as you, so I thought by the time we got to Girl At Home we were in the homestretch and safe territory. I thought my headphones had broke at first.

  • @brittanyselcer
    @brittanyselcer 2 роки тому +42

    Better Man was the one I was most excited for. When I found out she wrote it I was like, “Um Taylor, where’s your version girl?” I like her version better than the LBT one.

  • @alexwuntch3368
    @alexwuntch3368 3 роки тому +16

    You NEED to break down that "Olivia Rodrigo has the blueprint and Taylor Swift doesn't like it" comment because I think I agree with you but I can't explain why I feel like that is the case.

    • @jnsenism
      @jnsenism 9 місяців тому +1

      explain…? 😭

  • @Kpup
    @Kpup Рік тому +14

    The way Taylor says “it was always on your terms” gives me chills every time

  • @KeenHunter
    @KeenHunter 2 роки тому +20

    I was trying to Mastermind a comment cause you made so many valid points, hurt my feelings, and had me cry laughing multiple times. So glad I found you to binge (another Midnights' blessing)!!! You are Gorgeous and elegant. You are a vibe, the moment, and an aesthetic mood ✨

  • @JackToTheA1
    @JackToTheA1 3 роки тому +78

    I loved every song, no real complaints. The “we-EE” doesn’t bother me, if anything I like it more! As a fellow Holy Ground fan, this rerecording wasn’t too upsetting for me, but I prefer the original a tiny bit, although I can settle for it. HOWEVER. Holy Ground TV’s final “part” of the song has subtle high pitched minor piano sounds and while I don’t really mind too much, it is kinda distracting. Girl At Home is forever improved, period. Going from the worst song on Red to being middle tier just because of epic production change? Yes PLEASE!!! Kinda unfortunate that you didn’t like Girl At Home TV, I think she allowed herself to change it up because she knew nobody really liked it before.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +36

      No you're actually insane for your girl at home opinion

    • @JackToTheA1
      @JackToTheA1 3 роки тому +39

      @@theswiftologist It’s become a BOP though!! Before it was a snooze fest for me.

    • @elenagerhardy2636
      @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +4

      @@JackToTheA1 I thought the original Girl at Home was charming/cute, anti-feminist lyrics aside. The re recorded version is really really different. It would take me a long time to get used to the new production, and I really don’t think I can be bothered.

    • @ashleystorrer6899
      @ashleystorrer6899 3 роки тому +16

      @@theswiftologist The original production was so bad that I skipped girl at home every time and now I can actually listen to it

    • @andresbecerra1183
      @andresbecerra1183 2 роки тому +2

      @@theswiftologist yeah i also prefer the new girl at home bc it embraces how bad it is lol. I really do not like that song. I think it should’ve gone just back in the vault for Red TV. Like give us the new vault tracks, but also put some of the original tracks back in vault and throw away the key.

  • @knowitnone
    @knowitnone Місяць тому +2

    I always thought I Bet You Think About Me was sort of jokey, but also definitely meant to annoy JG. I imagine it got back to her that he said he doesn't even think about her, and she decided to fix that. If he's not thinking of her fondly, she can make sure he thinks of her in anger and annoyance by dragging this up again. "Pick your poison babe, I'm poison either way" :D

  • @myblood8622
    @myblood8622 3 роки тому +74

    thanks, finally a person who understands exactly how i felt after listening IKYWT, it sounds sooo different from the original. i like the original way better. However, i loved the other ones.

  • @elenagerhardy2636
    @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +56

    I love your expression at 12:50 when you realise Message in a Bottle isn’t as good as you hoped it might be 😅

  • @imnicheroo
    @imnicheroo Рік тому +15

    “If she fucks this one up, she’s going to jail…”😬 How I feel about Sparks Fly and I’m scared🙈

  • @mic-shellcrackson3800
    @mic-shellcrackson3800 3 роки тому +28

    To be honest, I hated the original Girl at home. This new one is one my favorite tracks

  • @Dehlopesp
    @Dehlopesp 2 роки тому +14

    Love someone, especially the biggest swiftie I know, loving "The last time". Is my second favorite song of Taylor EVER (first is ATWTM, i'm basic, sue me). I absolutely adore this song, the lyrics, the duet. You're so right, is better than Exile, even if I love this song too. As always, love your honesty, is so refreshing. Keep doing the awesome work!

  • @ellacopter2744
    @ellacopter2744 3 роки тому +16

    when i first heard all too well 10 minute version, all the added parts just sounded like filler..but now analyzing the lyrics it's sooo good

  • @haileyd3636
    @haileyd3636 3 роки тому +16

    I agree with you in that i don't think she necessarily had the entirety of the atw 10 minute version made in 2010/11 but I do think a lot of it was written in the way she says. I think that Taylor was much more image-conscious then and while she might've written a lot of this at the time, maybe didn't feel that she could use all of it. I mean she was 21... we saw her as a saint and for the most part I'm sure she was. But that's how she wanted to be seen. She definitely could've still written 'fuck the patriarchy' for example.

    • @haileyd3636
      @haileyd3636 3 роки тому +2

      I do think the last verse was written now. It seems like it's more of a reflection on the relationship from years later. She's saying that even after all this time she remembers the way he made her feel

  • @metoziii
    @metoziii 3 роки тому +40

    how can you doubt she wrote those lyrics during that time when songs like red, treacherous, state of grace, og all too well were released during those times. the songwriting on them is literally on the same level if not superior.

  • @VaniyaAjaz1977
    @VaniyaAjaz1977 Місяць тому +2

    "This thing was a shot in the dark" Run
    "I've known it from the very start. We're a shot in the darkest dark" Say Dont Go

  • @livp9056
    @livp9056 3 роки тому +36

    Yours and Madelines opinions are the only swifty opinions I care about cause y’all are ALWAYS right!!! Thank you for your service in critiquing I Bet You Think About Me cause no one else is talking about it!!!!!! Taylor is so ugh sometimes 😅

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +29

    was about to settle in for a movie but this is way better

  • @cre8iveflare
    @cre8iveflare 6 місяців тому +2

    Taylor writing about being a simple farm girl is kind of like Johnny Cash writing song after song about being in jail and on death row. Yes she lived on a Christmas tree farm - there's truth in that but the work she did was pulling the eggs of bugs out of the tree trunks. But she had a whole attic to herself and her house was the envy of every other kid that knew her. But I love her and her way of bending the narrative for artistic license. Taylor is very good at painting herself Relatable.

  • @MissteriousMisstress
    @MissteriousMisstress 2 роки тому +11

    Seeing you get THE FUCCCCK down to 22 is giving me life!!

  • @lizzyb125
    @lizzyb125 Рік тому +5

    I was honestly surprised by your take on. I bet you think about me. For me, honestly. It's one of my favorite songs. So kind of like, how in blank space she wrote about the media character. I think I bet you still think about me is her writing from the character debut Taylor Swift, not the real Taylor Swift.

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +16

    THE VERY FIRST NIGHT STANS RISE

  • @betsfsnr1989rlfemttpdtv
    @betsfsnr1989rlfemttpdtv Рік тому +5

    I find it so funny that even though I know you're being emotional with her but you also heard the birthday shenanigans in atwtmv and went "Womp Womp." crazy
    editing cuz i got to the IKYWT part. garage band was quite the flashback thank you

  • @jeomaykutecson3545
    @jeomaykutecson3545 3 роки тому +46

    I like your reaction because its critical and not just praising the hell out of it unlike the other reaction youtubers. Also, I do think that ATW 10 Minute Version is written later/now because I don't think Taylor has achieved that kind of layered songwriting yet in 2012.

  • @tayluvofficial
    @tayluvofficial 10 місяців тому +2

    27:03 me after farting in the car and acting like who did it

  • @diyamarymopur
    @diyamarymopur 2 роки тому +7

    ok for I bet you think about me I think it was more of a comparison to her and Jake. he grew up as a billionaire in Beverley hills. Was Taylor privileged? absolutely. but I think what she is trying to say is HE was always acting like he was better than she was. not that she was underprivileged. but I do understand how the song comes off the wrong way.

  • @JRT026
    @JRT026 10 місяців тому +2

    I became a swiftie the days before this release bc my friend was fangirling over it so I listened to all to well sv and then watchedall too well 10 minute version short film and became a swiftie right then and there,
    It was rare
    I was there
    I remember it all too well

  • @Tal_reputation
    @Tal_reputation 3 роки тому +31

    THANK YOU FOR THE GIRL AT HOME REACTION! i'm literally in tears from laughing so much.
    I came in expecting you hating ALL the songs and seeing you liked some of them made me a happy, cause it's sucks that you're favorite album gets ruined. so I hoped you at least will enjoy some and this won't ruin EVERYTHING for you on Red. but yeah, there are some atrocities on this re-recording. i'm worried for my baby Speak Now (album) and reputation re-recording. cause she ruined a lot on Fearless TV as well.
    My biggest issue is why the fuck they don't use real instruments??? Jack and Aaron how to play guitar. like why are they using these synths on songs that used guitars?? WHY?!?!
    Your reaction to Message In A Bottle!!! wow. so funny. this song is so bad. it's literally a Disney song. "she's serving singing...... but nothing else" LOL
    I actually like I Bet You Think About Me cause Taylor said in a radio interview that they wrote it as supposed to be a joke and not that seriously. but your reaction is priceless to the lyrics of gated communited and such. so funny.
    Yes! so happy you liked 'The Very First Night' it is generic but it's more fun than Message In A Bottle. oohhh you're right, this one could easily replace Stay Stay Stay. you're so right!!
    Holy Ground doesn't sound the same. it sounds slower!
    All in all I agree with you. the re-recordings of the old songs sound unfinished. like something missing with the production AND layered vocals. there aren't any layered vocals! it happened in Fearless TV as well with You Belong With Me. her vocals sound so upfront. like she recorded them so close to the mic. so it seems she ruins her biggest hits.
    I wonder if the changes in the beginning of the songs are so that Big Machine wouldn't be able to claim they did a copycat of the master recordings...

    • @cc1526
      @cc1526 Рік тому +1

      Curious what your thoughts on speak now are now that it’s out lol

  • @pickledcucumber8693
    @pickledcucumber8693 3 роки тому +9

    Elvira Anderfjärd and Jeff Bhasker must be held accountable for their war crimes to achieve justice for girl at home and holy ground

  • @CarlyonProduction
    @CarlyonProduction 3 роки тому +14

    I love your enthusiasm!! It’s infection. I am not even a fan but definitely gonna listen to this after watching your video!

  • @micyclerace
    @micyclerace Рік тому +6

    no because jake had a keychain that said "fuck the patriarchy"

    • @dreamchaser7603
      @dreamchaser7603 Рік тому +1

      Where did people find this info? Has he ever talked about it??
      Funny to hear this message from Jake lol )) he is the low key misogynistic dude pretending to be progressive and on trend… „ the cool dude“ 😂

  • @spookey2004
    @spookey2004 3 роки тому +19

    I’m gonna get killed for this but I liked holy ground. Not as good as the original but I didn’t find it terrible. And the new girl at home is way better than the original in my opinion, it just took a few listens to get what she’s going for

  • @hunniii2356
    @hunniii2356 2 роки тому +9

    Also the new version on Girl at home is so much better and makes me want to shake my ass in the air, although now it sound more like a 1989 track I prefer the new one over the og

  • @verenainlondon4851
    @verenainlondon4851 3 роки тому +37

    Agreed with some of the production… can’t imagine Taylor wouldn’t have heard that herself… 🤔

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +30

      I did a deep dive into the production credits and I have a theory as to why it’s all fucked up now…will prob discuss it on the podcast!

  • @guillermovazquez1349
    @guillermovazquez1349 3 роки тому +58

    My initial reaction when i heard We Are Never... was "She needs to redo this, unacceptable... just, no". That high-pitched "WeeEE" makes me cringe and I try to laugh it off.😅 But loved most of the other rerecords on the album!

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +23

      she killed her. she killed my favorite bitch

    • @imawakemymindisalive13
      @imawakemymindisalive13 Рік тому +3

      she said her goal for this song was for it to be as annoying as possible because jake hated annoying cringey pop songs 😂😂😂😂

  • @zerosixseventen
    @zerosixseventen 9 місяців тому +1

    “Red is my fav Taylor swift album” ME TOO YOURE SO REAL FOR THATTT

  • @dllantino
    @dllantino 3 роки тому +9

    Dude, honestly same thoughts, especially the lyrics in “I Bet You Think About Me”. I don’t get some of the sound and production choices she made with some of the songs, but I really loved what she did with Run, The Very First Night and All Too Well. 💕

  • @Dolphin2048
    @Dolphin2048 Рік тому +3

    God the swiftologist is my favorite goober

  • @javxrbshu
    @javxrbshu Рік тому +2

    combing through old videos while i'm at work and can i just say.
    1. the red flannel works for you
    2. drop the candle info pleaseeee
    3. the interior decor is so pinterest fall vibes especially with the red cd, the flowers and the candles etc, i love it!!!

  • @memebeeee
    @memebeeee 3 роки тому +16

    Okay your reaction to I Bet You Think About Me tells me you don't understand the affluence of the Gyllenhaal family. Taylor isn't calling herself a poor country girl, but her childhood upbringing is leagues below Jake's and that's the contrast she was trying to paint a picture of. Her father had a stable job but they weren't an influential family before she became THE Taylor Swift.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +8

      Please don't presume that you know what I do or don't know. I've been doing this longer than you, guaranteed! I understand perfectly well the affluence of Jake's family, HOWEVER, their differences were largely cultural (and social cache) rather than fiscal. Taylor painting herself as a rural country girl is disingenuous, period. No matter who she is comparing herself to. But thanks for trying to school me unnecessarily x

  • @sergiopenaforte6842
    @sergiopenaforte6842 3 роки тому +8

    The best way to do a music reaction video is with headphones, so you can judge the production properly.

  • @Man_in_a_hurry
    @Man_in_a_hurry Рік тому +5

    I’m watching this while doing history homework and I guess this counts as revisiting history so it’s on topic

  • @vankr
    @vankr 2 роки тому +5

    "Why are they so different in the beginning?" So, I think she purposefully put something in all of them so that we can't listen to old songs mixed with new ones lmao
    I TRIED making a playlist of the new versions but with a few old versions (wanegbt, for example), and they sound like they come from different studios. So I can't pick and choose the versions I like best without a scare jump, I have to commit either to OG or TV. We can't get the best of both worlds. She is so evil.

  • @carolinamansur113
    @carolinamansur113 Рік тому +4

    59:36 Taylor never said she would try to make them note for note songs 🤷

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +22

    I am so glad you hold the opinion that she didn’t write some of these vault lyrics in 2010/11/12 saaame

  • @quinroseman7233
    @quinroseman7233 3 роки тому +6

    i think forever winter was about her friend who overdosed, like she wanted him to not literally k word himself

  • @alii_me
    @alii_me Рік тому +2

    I am bingeing all of your videos and I can't find the all you need to know before Red TV, my OCD is gonna kill me 🤯

  • @iteachlit
    @iteachlit Рік тому +14

    Sooo…can we agree that “Message In a Bottle” is kind of a segue into 1989?

  • @florenciaermides8314
    @florenciaermides8314 2 роки тому +6

    Actually The Very First Night is about the time she started to date Harry Styles. There are a lots of references, such as the Polaroid picture, the roads, “we were built to fall apart” i mean OOTW🤨 riding etcc

    • @florenciaermides8314
      @florenciaermides8314 2 роки тому

      Cause they were together when she released RED ( Oct 2012 )

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  2 роки тому +5

      @@florenciaermides8314 Bro stop telling me stuff I already know...this was an on the spot reaction video as titled in the ALBUM REACTION

    • @kreer-d3f
      @kreer-d3f 4 місяці тому

      Here are some actual timelines and facts. Taylor & Harry met at the KCAs on March 31, 2012. Taylor attended a country music awards show in Las Vegas on April 1st. 1D were in NYC April 2-7 rehearsing and performing on Saturday Night Live. 1D were in Australia by April 10, doing interviews before their Australian leg of their tour. It was around April 22/23 that pictures of the Harry & Emma Ostilly kiss came out. Therefore, according to this timeline, "Message in a Bottle" and "Come Back Be Here" could be about Harry if they were written in April. But "The Very First Night" is very doubtful to be about Harry. That one is about Jake because it's about a longer relationship. Taylor wants to go back to the beginning of the relationship when everything was good. It doesn't fit the Harry timeline at all. Taylor re-uses words and phrases all the time, especially from songs that were never released.
      Taylor and Harry didn't officially start dating until that fall (Oct/Nov). Taylor was done writing for Red in June 2012, even though it wasn't released until October. She's not writing songs about Harry the week before the album's release and including them on the album. It doesn't work like that. The album is usually done a few months before its release.

  • @sezbez22
    @sezbez22 2 роки тому +6

    In her interview with Seth Meyers when she was talking about re-releasing her music she said that she lurks online and said “the fans tell me which songs should’ve gotten videos so I’m making the videos” - but we haven’t gotten any music videos to old songs yet, have we?! 😥

    • @baileymcbride18
      @baileymcbride18 2 роки тому +5

      She’s talking about all too well there with the short film! I think it’s safe to assume when rep tv comes out there will also be something for getaway car.

    • @cc1526
      @cc1526 Рік тому

      @@baileymcbride18 I feel like it that was the case, cruel summer would’ve gotten a music video by now.. like ya I know it’s not a re-recording, but it was just released as a single. A music video would make perfect sense. We’ll see with 1989 but speak now only got a video for a vault track so I think she might’ve been referencing all too well and all too well only.

    • @imawakemymindisalive13
      @imawakemymindisalive13 Рік тому

      i bet you think about me!

  • @catarinaalvarez4144
    @catarinaalvarez4144 3 роки тому +20

    no like deadass what she did to holy ground and girl at home broke the geneva conventions. straight up war crimes!!! loved your reactions though, and am very much looking forward to more of your insight on the podcast!

  • @elenagerhardy2636
    @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +83

    The real tea I got from ATW10min was that Gyllenhaal was the first boyfriend Scott Swift actually approved of. And then he treated her like shit.
    I think Taylor throwing in ‘fuck the patriarchy’ is her way of unpacking her ongoing dad issues. It’s clear that, as much as she craves approval and adulation from everyone, she especially needs male approval - this is clear from looking at her male vs female friendships and collaborations. I think that this need goes back to wanting to impress her dad and needing more of his approval than she received. Can relate. 😢

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +21

      YESSSS that’s so true I wrote that in my notes for the pod

    • @elenagerhardy2636
      @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +6

      @@theswiftologist yesss I can’t wait for the podcast reaction!! Swiftologist fans are getting FED 😘

    • @elenagerhardy2636
      @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +13

      @@theswiftologist I’m still working through this train of thought haha.
      I’m also thinking that what made this breakup especially difficult was that Taylor’s parents were going through their divorce around this time. Taylor would have been working through the reality that her parents’ relationship was not a fairytale she probably once believed it was, as well as competing loyalties to Scott and Andrea, and perhaps feeling some misplaced guilt that Andrea and Taylor touring without Scott contributed to her parents’ relationship breakdown. I also think there might have been some similarities between Scott and Jake, which Taylor would then have had to process.
      I might be reading too much into some of this. But I think if you connect the dots, we’re getting a much clearer picture as to why this particular relationship fucked her up so much.

    • @wickywicky3811
      @wickywicky3811 2 роки тому +13

      I don't think that phrase is said by her, it's implied it's either Jake or the keychain in his car keys, but not her. I think she's describing an argument they had and her probably calling out his bs.

    • @cat.fourdaysinoktobergang1323
      @cat.fourdaysinoktobergang1323 Рік тому +4

      @@wickywicky3811 I think it is because men are controlling when it comes to driving. So when Jake throws her the car keys, it means he doesn’t care if a woman drives the car.

  • @tro90s
    @tro90s 3 роки тому +3

    not the intro prayer pls HAUSHAJHSJAHS

  • @nomnoms1230
    @nomnoms1230 3 роки тому +13

    I would’ve forgiven the Girl At Home remix if she included the original I loved her sm even if I couldn’t really get it as a young girl 😭

  • @elenagerhardy2636
    @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +12

    Fuck the patriarchy, I guess.
    I wouldn’t have any issues with ATW10mins if Ms Swift were just a bit more honest about it’s origins. I feel like it would have been totally fine for her to present it as ATW(extended); a mixture of the original, some lines/verses that were cut, and some reflections on that relationship 10 years on.
    I’m not sure how she expected us to believe that story she told on Jimmy Fallon, with her essentially writing the whole thing impromptu, in a single 10-15 minute session, and the sound guy happened to record it on a mystery CD never seen or heard of again, until now. I mean really. I noticed her explanation of the 10min version was scaled back quite a bit when she appeared on Seth Myers.

    • @LaurenLaass
      @LaurenLaass 2 роки тому +2

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who was suspicious of her describing the birth of the og ATW10 on Fallon. The lyrics in the song point to her writing it more recently.

  • @simonstokes82
    @simonstokes82 3 роки тому +6

    When you were talking about holy ground DOO Doo dOo I literally fell the down the stairs laughing 😭

  • @thebolter.
    @thebolter. 3 роки тому +13

    Scoobert can get my 0.3c for wanegbt and Holy Ground, I'm sorry but the new versions are UNLISTENABLE

  • @Mr.Lindsor13
    @Mr.Lindsor13 5 місяців тому +1

    i'm so happy that your honest and don't just praise her every day.

  • @john_scheck
    @john_scheck 2 роки тому +11

    You are the smartest person person I have ever seen. I quote, "Treacherous, which, to be honest, is kind of a snooze until the last 2 minutes when it becomes the greatest song ever written." THIS IS BLASPHEMOUS BUT SO SO SO TRUEEE

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +9

    Swifties bullied taylor so much about girl at home she made it totally different (& i am like you where it’s not as bad as everyone says) :( also prayer circle that elvira doesn’t show up on any speak now re-recordings

    • @paperbackenthusiast
      @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому

      ...no offense lol

    • @S0LAVELLANHELL
      @S0LAVELLANHELL 3 роки тому +1

      that’s not why. it was originally supposed to be full pop but her label didn’t let her and so now she finally gets to do what she wants

  • @michelmoutinho
    @michelmoutinho 2 роки тому +20

    I love the new version of Girl at Home!!!!! Much prefer it over the original, but I’m sure others were as disappointed as you lol

  • @shanegriffin6637
    @shanegriffin6637 3 роки тому +29

    Red is my favorite album too! I will say the vault songs this time around were REALLY good, and a huge improvement over the kind of garbage songs we got with Fearless TV. (Except Mr. Perfectly fucking Fine)

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +28

      Yes the vault songs slapped into the next century

    • @elenagerhardy2636
      @elenagerhardy2636 3 роки тому +1

      I agree - the red vault tracks have made me way more excited about the vault tracks to come than I was after hearing the ones from Fearless.
      Aside from Better Man, I really like The Very First Night- it gave me Haylor vibes (some of the lyrics remind me of OOTW and AYHTDWS).
      What were your favourite vault tracks?

    • @shanegriffin6637
      @shanegriffin6637 3 роки тому +2

      @@elenagerhardy2636 Forever Winter, Nothing New, and The Very First Night. I love them all though

    • @kyleexwhy
      @kyleexwhy 3 роки тому +6

      Don't you is right there bestie

    • @booabo
      @booabo 2 роки тому +2

      @@kyleexwhy speak on it

  • @harrypotteravenclaw
    @harrypotteravenclaw 3 роки тому +8

    It's interesting Max Martin isn't credited as a producer at all, do you think she asked him and he chose not to?

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  3 роки тому +8

      ooooh I have many thoughts on why max didn't show up. will talk about it on the podcast next week

  • @FrancesBaconandEggs
    @FrancesBaconandEggs Рік тому +4

    OK I ask this with all the love and respect in my heart: didn’t Taylor and Jake only date for 3 months? How did such a short/casual relationship inspire such devastating lyrics like 10 minutes of All Too Well? I’m a new fan so I’m still learning about…everything lol

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 Рік тому +4

      3 months was how long they dated *publicly.* With celebrities it could always be longer than we know. Besides, the time of a relationship really says nothing about the intensity of it. Esp if it was her first time and such.

    • @Orangesparkles166
      @Orangesparkles166 Рік тому

      @@jillsarah7356first time what

    • @imawakemymindisalive13
      @imawakemymindisalive13 Рік тому +2

      tbh the shortest relationships hurt the most. like taylor said, loving him was red. whereas with joe, she described it as golden. but this, she was very very passionate. i can relate, my very shortest relationship is the one i’m not over even though he’s gone and the longest one is the one i moved on from fast.

    • @FreyaFreyaWillow
      @FreyaFreyaWillow Рік тому +6

      I think that the fact that he was older than her also played a role here. She was 20, he was 29. She was a little girl, she was the man. This is a serious age difference. He was wiser and smarter, more experienced (as she thought then). Such relationships are very different from relationships with a boy of the same age. It happens. And it was like that in my life, I forgot some 2-month relationships or year-long relationships within a month. Some 2-month relationships are boring and unmemorable. Some are not. And I still remember some 3-month relationship. They left a big mark on my life. And a big scar. It is all about emotions. For her it was deep, bright and passionate as RED colour.

  • @alisondawnsmith
    @alisondawnsmith 2 роки тому +2

    "WHhhhhHHHHuuuUUUuuuttttt" in response to your Message in a Bottle reaction lol! It's soooooooooo gooooood!

  • @paperbackenthusiast
    @paperbackenthusiast 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you for these elite opinions as per ushe bestie

  • @Ryan-nx4vn
    @Ryan-nx4vn 3 роки тому +18

    I actually don't mind when actual swifties criticize Taylor songs, this video was actually hilarious, but when its a non-swiftie talking shit ab a Taylor song I can't take it