Yes! Pos1 are supposed to jungle. By that time they can clear lane creeps in a few seconds then rotate to jungle. They dont need tower because they will play in jungle from minute 10
Been spamming Chen for a few days now. The most fun I have ever had as a 5. Dude is strong even without an agh rush thanks to the jungle creeps' skill changes a few months ago. And this video, to an extend, explains the Chen nerf in 7.32b. I tend to go for a traditional build so I don't often recognize how obsencely strong Chen agh is atm.
@@silentfrost3645 Only his ult got nerfed in 7.32b. Other than that, Chen still remains a strong support atm. Now all jungle creeps have their own skills which is already a massive buff to Chen and will keep him somewhat relavent even if he continues to have his other skills nerfed after this.
Pos 3, 4 and 5 here. I just started playing Chen, Lycan, Beastmaster and Enchantress, overall, heroes that can control multiple creeps are just strong AF!! I will try Venomencer soon enough as well. Not that I haven't played Veno but just not the right way.
You can't help but get flamed as level 1 Chen. You level Penitence - "Omg Chen with no creeps, GG" You level Persuasion - "Omg my Chen has a useless creep GG" You level Divine Favour - "Omg my Chen IS the creep GG"
You know, in super late game you can get like a dominator to get a healing troll shaman, he gives bonus 15% heal amplification on your spells, that would be about +90 extra hp per each martyrdom and hand of god, which actually makes up to extra 270 hp in triple heal and might make a difference. The reason I say dominator is to not accidentally martyr your shaman creep and not to kill him with creep cap accidentally either. Great content!
@@eshlost5604 Ayt cool thanks. I play Chen too but often times i do the 5 dark trolls and hide them somewhere. The new -2 talent I've tried playing with 4 centaurs and a dagger. Both are fun
yup there is a lot of 'jugg' out there who think he knows everything at dota still in low mmr tho. takes credit when winning, be 'never wrong man' when losing. great play btw
Kinda out of topic but I love how Enigma played at the second game. Yes wombo combo, 3+ BH is good but that Enigma doesn't hesitate to do 1-man blackhole if he deemed the kill to be important.
Can someone explain me how in gaben's name the jugg is in top mmr when he is playing like some herald/guardian carry that obsessively camp his lane, thinking this is THEIR lane and THEIR creeps and they have to stay here until they have 6 items ...
This is what happens when people are too meta dependent. I remember when i was at ancient to divine ranking years ago when i was actively playing. Allies were bad mouthing me when i played off meta builds. I used lifestealer on manta because enemy has silencer, used radiance build on juggernaut because i was facing TA and at the end i carried them. Some players just don’t understand they need to adjust from meta.
i honestly gonna report his steam account and freeze his IP to prevent queue matchmaking with that toxic behaviour ._. that's kinda weird when a new patch come to try new thing that we dont know but that jug cant accept the reality learn to adapt
Havent played for 2 years but I still remember that you can click alt to see ally hp bar on the icon at the top of screen and you can also click your skills there. I don't know if it still works though
I wanna know if that thing still works too coz I remember Treant Protector users click on the hero icons on top of the screen to cast that armor thingy much more easily
Bro ive grown resentful to these kinds of people. Encountered a guy who’s supposed to play support and berated for not picking because we were losing gold. Worst yet he thinks he’s right all the time, when I make my point he blocks me and he feels like he did something by blocking me first. He kept chatting like: thank god finally blocked. Like bro idgaf 💀
Chen spammer here. I have him at 60% winrate divine rank. I don't think rushing aghs is that good honestly. Being there with your team providing aura, heals and your Q is better than standing in jungle spam healing 1 hero. Your mek timing is so strong, and you can also rush drums if you stomped your lane in order to solo control enemy jungle.
Next time go buy meka and skill penitence at level 1and body block the small camp at 1 min. You don't really need to rush aga. Meka is cheaper and you really need that at early game. Anyway thanks for video.
Wouldn't clicking Martyrdom on hero icons on the top of the screen work too ? Then if you use alt to see your teammate's HP, you won't need to move the camera to them
Yep, the second one is really accurate, tho its a shame that it happens with a 5 stack. Getting lax and overconfident while you're ahead is a recipe for disaster.
There is a bug with chens hard dispell and enchantress shard. U can't dispell enchantress shard eventho ur hand of god applies a hard dispell to all allies
Io: I am the best healer in the game.
Chen 7.32: Hold my creeps.
Oracle: Amateur!
Io can double or maybe triple Chen's heal just by tethering to the target, so not really a lose.
Yeah but you gotta farm aghanim first tho
How about io + chen and a carry .. its a good combo tho for late game ..the rest mid game and early game heroes
@@gwakamoli7759 exactly.Thatd why pro team always pick Io chen if you watch TI8 and Ti9 final they always contest these 2
I was egotistical like jugg in my past. I took magic mushrooms and I enjoy playing pos5 now
damn we need to mass produce those magic mushrooms
LOL
incredibly based and 3rd eye pilled
good
The ego death
that’s the jugg we all get, never the jugg the enemy gets
coming from NA alot of the french canadian carry Refuse to leave the dead lane.. every, for any reason (until min 20)
@@curious_ember Yes, been there too
well said bro, but for me, more often than not, its Bara lol !!!
Yes! Pos1 are supposed to jungle. By that time they can clear lane creeps in a few seconds then rotate to jungle. They dont need tower because they will play in jungle from minute 10
This is why DJ insisted to ban all zoo heroes during the major.
chu : hold my es
who is DL, he play disco song or jazz?
@@alexanderlc8468 dj from fnatic
What zoo heroes?
@@iloveplumpgrannies174 Chen, Beastmaster and Lycan probably..heroes that are really good at scouting and support.
Sometimes average skill games just have that unfortunate sweet spot of high ego and close mindedness. Well played!
Been spamming Chen for a few days now. The most fun I have ever had as a 5. Dude is strong even without an agh rush thanks to the jungle creeps' skill changes a few months ago.
And this video, to an extend, explains the Chen nerf in 7.32b. I tend to go for a traditional build so I don't often recognize how obsencely strong Chen agh is atm.
Damn. I was about to use him after this video but he got nerfed already
@@silentfrost3645 Only his ult got nerfed in 7.32b. Other than that, Chen still remains a strong support atm. Now all jungle creeps have their own skills which is already a massive buff to Chen and will keep him somewhat relavent even if he continues to have his other skills nerfed after this.
I feel like creeps can carry Chen for an aghs rush. Healing is good this patch and this is just OP
Pos 3, 4 and 5 here. I just started playing Chen, Lycan, Beastmaster and Enchantress, overall, heroes that can control multiple creeps are just strong AF!! I will try Venomencer soon enough as well. Not that I haven't played Veno but just not the right way.
@@hasnaindev agreed.Strong pushing power,teamfight,squishy heroes if not careful,would just melt.
Really love the editing man!
Met you on sea ranked pubs years ago, you were so good. Got curious and stalked you. Found your yt channel, and subbed.
man actually every single your videos makes my day.. please upload more often 😉
You can't help but get flamed as level 1 Chen.
You level Penitence - "Omg Chen with no creeps, GG"
You level Persuasion - "Omg my Chen has a useless creep GG"
You level Divine Favour - "Omg my Chen IS the creep GG"
Just level up stats
"This Chen is a gigachad."
@@ErwinSmith001 I just tried it and my MMR went up by 600! Thanks man!
@@christaylor86 I think you meant went to
@@sus7820 Yeah! Up 600 from 0!
@@christaylor86 oh makes sense. Sorry mate
You know, in super late game you can get like a dominator to get a healing troll shaman, he gives bonus 15% heal amplification on your spells, that would be about +90 extra hp per each martyrdom and hand of god, which actually makes up to extra 270 hp in triple heal and might make a difference. The reason I say dominator is to not accidentally martyr your shaman creep and not to kill him with creep cap accidentally either. Great content!
How does that aura work btw? Does it amplify the healer's healing within 1200 radius or does the unit to be healed need to be in that radius?
@@xtianebernal healer's healing
@@eshlost5604 Ayt cool thanks. I play Chen too but often times i do the 5 dark trolls and hide them somewhere. The new -2 talent I've tried playing with 4 centaurs and a dagger. Both are fun
@Person aww look at you who can't contain the need to feel good about yourself.
@Person virgin pos 1 2 3 players.
that juggernaut is such a sore loser. that threats and rage just looks absolutely cringe.
Everytime you pick Chen in my games:
_Enchantress has entered the chat_
And now Enchantress shard counters Chen to the base.😇
And the endless conversion of creeps begin
yup there is a lot of 'jugg' out there who think he knows everything at dota still in low mmr tho. takes credit when winning, be 'never wrong man' when losing. great play btw
Kinda out of topic but I love how Enigma played at the second game. Yes wombo combo, 3+ BH is good but that Enigma doesn't hesitate to do 1-man blackhole if he deemed the kill to be important.
yep he knew ember kills them all if he doesn't stop him
Was kind of hoping you would show the total heal for the match at the end. Bet it was up there on both games :)
can't even play a single SEA game without risking your life
HAHA
"healing..healing.." x1000 🤣🤣🤣
Funny because he’s so well spoken in video. This whole video…healing….HEALing…HEALING!HEALING!!! 😂strat is OP
owowowo OWOWOWOWOWOWO
Can someone explain me how in gaben's name the jugg is in top mmr when he is playing like some herald/guardian carry that obsessively camp his lane, thinking this is THEIR lane and THEIR creeps and they have to stay here until they have 6 items ...
Man I love your Singlish a lot, it makes the Video muc more better XD
the whole vid is "healing! healing! healing!" :))
in sundanese its mean GET OUT! GET OUT! GET OUT! :))))
nice vid datoh
This is what happens when people are too meta dependent. I remember when i was at ancient to divine ranking years ago when i was actively playing.
Allies were bad mouthing me when i played off meta builds. I used lifestealer on manta because enemy has silencer, used radiance build on juggernaut because i was facing TA and at the end i carried them. Some players just don’t understand they need to adjust from meta.
bro what, chen IS meta
@@СтасКонончик well he's still right. and he's making a larger point than chen being meta. please reconsider your entire existence.
Those people obviously dont know how to itemize bruh 🙄
The bad part of this strategy is... you have to play Chen... and control creeps - I suck at this strategy :D
"我把它拉进".
That's what I always tell my gf Dato :)))
Also as Malaysian "追他 Lao Bu", feels so nice to see that puck got puck'ed in return ahaha 😂🤣
jugg online: "I'm gonna kill you irl"
jugg irl: "i-i-i- I'm s-s-sorry" 🤓
Happen in my Neighborhood, from trash talk into death threat. And some dude actually got stabbed in neck while playing dota in Netscape. RIP
Recently, ive become ur fan now. What a fascinating way to play lol. Keep it up!!
If you receive a death threat it means you were successful
Talking about death threats, that jug can’t even get out of his room and to talk about killing someone lmao.
No joke if that jugg was in my game bro, he would have stopped playing dota 2, you are so humble and patient, much love
CC: _HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING HEALING_
Truly a "Hiling! hiling! hiling !" moment lmao
i was on a demo and watch a guide for chen thx for dropping this video. this would be my baseline on spamming chen on 7.32b
Yesterday, i had a emotional pos 1 Luna cuz Mars kill her like 3 time in the laning phase and we just win the game 4 vs 5 at 50m feels good man !
Keyboard sound is an ASMR
Dtl: How unstable are you?
Jugg: Yes
i honestly gonna report his steam account and freeze his IP to prevent queue matchmaking with that toxic behaviour ._. that's kinda weird when a new patch come to try new thing that we dont know but that jug cant accept the reality learn to adapt
@Person yep true man
10% playing, 90% HILING !
HEALIN HEALIN HEALIN god I love this video lol
that's the thing about pubs, wether we stomp the lane as a supp, its still a 50 - 50 on how our cores would decide to throw or not.
nah but by being chen you can just heal them through their throw xd
me in every marci game
@@kf_isher1149 not when they're literally running it down mid tho.
@@SheepyPanda95 yeah well that you just gotta chuck on some netflix and wait for the next one tbh
@@kf_isher1149 but then you get afk penalty....
I wish you showed off the healing stats postgame
game 1, 35.8k healing, match ID: 6725477825
game 2, 60.8k healing, match ID: 6728398250
Gabe & Icefrog : we'll pretend we didn't see that threat. Anyway, here's some new bugs 😂
you shouldve said to him, you can try, but you will never see me coming
Havent played for 2 years but I still remember that you can click alt to see ally hp bar on the icon at the top of screen and you can also click your skills there. I don't know if it still works though
I wanna know if that thing still works too coz I remember Treant Protector users click on the hero icons on top of the screen to cast that armor thingy much more easily
Thank you for teaching me this hero.. I underestimated this hero so much
Good luck reaching 25 as support in this patch where xp requirement for lvl is increased
just stay alive in every win team fight and u get lvls
HEALING HEALING HEALING 🤣
Thanks for putting the gist of what your mates are saying too much appreciated bro
Did you know that Dead Sea is the saltiest place in the world. .? 2nd only after that Yurnero's attitude
The Frog: Chen.. my son.. it's finally your time
Bro ive grown resentful to these kinds of people. Encountered a guy who’s supposed to play support and berated for not picking because we were losing gold. Worst yet he thinks he’s right all the time, when I make my point he blocks me and he feels like he did something by blocking me first. He kept chatting like: thank god finally blocked. Like bro idgaf 💀
i love your videos and personality man keep goin on 😂😂😂
really wanted to see the post-game heal value soo bad 😂😂😂😂
same
game 1 - 35k, game 2 -61k
Oh, wow, as a part time IO and Oracle main - this is close to my all time record.
Chen 7.32: Redo of Healer
Damn dude should show end game scoreboard for the healing number.
Healing? Healing? Healing?
-yes
Healing! Healing ! Healing!
Wahhh your video so fun 😂😆 keep it up ma man💪🏼
I would suggest pining the juggernaut every time he dies
I just want to say 1 thing:
HEALING!
Puppy and kuroky be like:
WRITE THat DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!!
step 0: know how to play chen.
11:37 owowowo OWOWOWOWOWOWOWO
Meanwhile DJ: BAN THE FCKING CHEN WE CAN'T LET THEM DO THAT THING
Edit: ok that's the most baby ragef jugg I've ever seen my entire life
have you tried Anysummoners Hero + echantress yet ?
Nice dude
Good channel
nice one laa.. love your art
Zoo is pretty damn strong right now since the go to zoo counter on carry BB got kinda nerfed.
As a chen with 24 streak I knew the re - persuasion trick to make hand off god doesn't have cd since the patch release🔥
Ahh man I love when other people are angry at dota instead of us :D
broken. actually broken dude.
That last clip of you healing nonstop was amazing haha.
I think this version natural counter for chen will be venomancer.
Chen spammer here. I have him at 60% winrate divine rank. I don't think rushing aghs is that good honestly. Being there with your team providing aura, heals and your Q is better than standing in jungle spam healing 1 hero.
Your mek timing is so strong, and you can also rush drums if you stomped your lane in order to solo control enemy jungle.
9:20 comeback la xdd
Enemy team: jugg, chen, weaver, undying
Me: auto lock AA
HEALING
The typical "blame in advance just in case we lose later".
if u reading comments jugg ur the shettys human in the world
This is the problem with chen player, their are not suit for below divine
not true, ive seen decent chen player below divine
@@datohleonggez yep alongside with their toxic teamates
Still waiting ESL One Malaysia analysis 😊
same
carry players always think they are the center of the universe.
Been spamming chen undying and batrider (until nerfs ofc)
5 squishy heroes vs burst damage. Who would win.
Next time go buy meka and skill penitence at level 1and body block the small camp at 1 min. You don't really need to rush aga. Meka is cheaper and you really need that at early game. Anyway thanks for video.
When you're trying hard n going for the objectives but just like jugg zero effort
That jug has anger issues haha
Wouldn't clicking Martyrdom on hero icons on the top of the screen work too ? Then if you use alt to see your teammate's HP, you won't need to move the camera to them
I really need player Chen like you.
Its make felt confident into clash
GG datolyong, nice one
hi im the minority here using the legacy hot key and the new scepter skill doesn't have hot key for me any advice what to do?
turn off legacy
I use legacy and it works
Yep, the second one is really accurate, tho its a shame that it happens with a 5 stack. Getting lax and overconfident while you're ahead is a recipe for disaster.
you make late game chen look like a monster
wait, did the mini golem with time got this effect too?
good question i don't think it did it only work on creep that he use spell on it
nope
eeelinng eeeeling!
My fav moment was the ahhh, from the blackhole drag
There is a bug with chens hard dispell and enchantress shard. U can't dispell enchantress shard eventho ur hand of god applies a hard dispell to all allies
Jugg is account buyer for sure...
what bracket is this dato? high divine?
ye
amazing vid
that lvl 25 is nasty
Persuade flag creep = win lane
but you don't get the gold so not worth
Game 2 is much more lively than game 1. That jugg probably doesn't know how to chill