I like the third film a lot and my girl and I recently finished the series. We really enjoyed it actually. Has a strong 90s low budget vibe. Super cool.
The sequels don't hold a candle to the original, though I thought Salvation was done very well. City of Angels grew on me, and I've been hoping to see the original cut for way too long now. Wicked Prayer was an odd one, still don't know how I feel about it, but damn, what a cast!
I was around 10 and it's still one of my favorites. I own three different copies in three mediums, plus the original graphic novel. I liked that third one all right. The second was meh. Didn't even bother watching that fourth one with John Conner in it lol heard it was awful, though
I was... I don't remember, but definitely not old enough. Maybe 14-15? The theater worker asked us "are you guys 18?", we said with little squeaker voices "yes!!". The movie was at a theater all the way across town and there was nothing really around that area that we could go do if we didn't get into the theater. My dad dropped us off, and had already left. So... with our nerves on edge, we waited for the workers response. "No you're not...", he said. Damn. "...but this movie is awesome, you guys need to go see it", he continued. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly, I doubt we'll ever see it. The closest we ever got was the PPV version that included a few extended scenes, but it's never been made available. But yeah, the cuts made by MIRAMAX drastically altered the film's structure and climax. If you want to get a taste of what would have been, the novelization by Chet Williamson is based directly off of the original screenplay, and preserves Tim Pope's intentions for the film.
There is no directors cut... but there is an extremely hard to find fan done re-cut which re-edits the film into the directors vision and it's apparently a far better film. I've never seen it and I enjoyed CoA for what it is... it's not the original or as good as it by any standard, but the use of color is fantastic.
Agree totally. Brandon is Eric, every time Hollywood tries to recast an iconic character they fail miserably. I have heard rumors that they are going to try a remake of this and I am not a fan of remakes in the least especially if the original was the equivalent of lightning in a bottle but from what I've heard they were going to cast Bill Skarsgard as Draven and to be honest that sorta peaked my curiosity bc he might actually do the role justice. But on the other hand I'm always going to be biased bc this movie was a big part of my high school years and still remains my favorite movie to this day
Exactly... I was cringing Everytime he would call Sarah, Shelly.... He made an entire video and couldn't even get something so simple as a character name. geez
I swear I remember interviews or articles with Rob Zombie talking about remaking or making a sequel to The Blob. Now that's one you guys should cover at some point.
I still remember those rumors, that would've been so cool! I also remember articles about a possible movie about The Unholy Two, the bounty hunter team from Devil's Rejects. Danny Trejo can't do that anymore, but maybe Diamond Dallas Page can go on a solo revenge mission against the Rejects.
I think someone brought that up to him not that ago about the blob and he said something along the lines of that it was to Due to Creative Differences that his version of the film didn’t happen
I was in middle school when The Crow came out. I saw it twice in theaters, and that Halloween, every kid dressed up as the Crow, myself included. Actually, my best friend, and my sister did as well.
Oh yes as from the reports I've read The Crow: The Bride was going to be an adaption of one of the most popular storylines in the comics The Crow: Flesh and Blood which focused on Iris Shaw a game warden who along with her unborn child, and several innocent people including a US Marshal were brutally murdered when a group of right-wing extremist ranchers were poaching coyotes by poisoning them simply because they didn't like the government turning land into protected wildlife habitats blow up the federal building the pregnant Iris, a US Marshal, and several innocent people are in including a kind-hearted nursing home worker who died due to suffocating to death via rubble from the blown up building falling on her. And so on the anniversary of her, her unborn child and the innocent people's murders Iris is brought back as the latest Crow and after making peace with her husband/father of the unborn child Rick and painting the image of a crow on her face with black face paint instead of the usual harlequin lines she sets off on her quest of retribution, and justice and her kills are actually symbolic as she's not out for vengeance but justice as she believes that vengeance is something that anyone enraged can get and won't ease her soul and bring her peace but the only thing that will ease her soul and get her the peace she desires is justice and so she kills her targets in ways that mirror the deaths of the various innocent individuals who died in the explosion with her and her unborn child for example the first 2 of Iris's targets she doesn't kill them instead she brings to a area and digs two human sized holes in the ground and then after using the power to make the targets see the pain of their victims and makes them see the kind-hearted nursing home worker suffocate to death under the rubble of the blown up building pushes them in the holes she dug and buries them alive so they can know the fear, terror, and mental pain of dying a slowing agonizing death via suffocation. And of course partway through the FBI gets involved which actually makes sense as the building the bad guys blew up at the start was a federal building.
One of my favorite flicks EVER..Went to the the theater opening w.end with my older brother(I was 13-14) and his people. When I learned the origins of O'Barrs inspiration to create the series I was torn imagining just how he felt 😩
I love the Crow and City of Angels however bad it is has some redeeming qualities, the Photography is just amazing, the color palette and the scene where Iggy Pop is sent in the river is pure gold, Tim Pope did a pretty nice job with a horrible script. Salvation is a nightmare and I just love how you didn't bother to mention Wicked Prayer, I believe everyone involved in it appreciate if we forget that ever happened
Like Jaws (1975), Hellraiser (1988), Robocop (1987), House (1985) or Highlander (1986), The Crow (1994) is a genre classic best enjoyed by pretending that its sequels never happened.
Nah I like his movies, even Lords of Salem. But then again im not an imbecile and knew to watch it as if it were an art house flick and not a horror/studio movie, and, actually understood H2
I had read The Crow 2037 script and i think Tim Burton should direct it, there are so many Classic Horror movie reference in this script and also so many Burton Tropes in that -Pale face protagonist with akward personality -lonely gothic castle where rich/powerfull antagonist dwell -Flashback/traumatized childhood -Forest with creatures of darkness -
I remember reading an interview with Rob Zombie in the mid-ish 2000's where he specifically named Christopher Lee as the actor that he wanted to play the main villain in this. Rob even said, "I wanted to bring Lee back to theaters. This was before he started showing up everywhere in Star Wars and Lord of the Rings movies. And at the time I was writing this, I was thinking that he's so iconic to not be used in big films that it's a crime."
Mark Decascos was a decent Crow on tv, maybe have him return in some way, he can narrate a new Crow's story from an old Crow's perspective. Mark's a big commodity for action now that he was a major character in a John Wick movie.
I followed the development of this film at the time, and I was always glad that it completely fell through. Also, a LOT of people have already told you, but Sarah was the name of the young girl in the original film. Shelly was the name of Eric's fiancé. That's a fairly embarrassing gaffe.
I have affection for it, but what we got was not the film that director Tim Pope intended and shot. Miramax came in and absolutely butchered it in the editing room, and changed up the film's narrative and its climax as well, and it looks like most of what was cut, save for a tiny handful of extended scenes, was disposed of. If you want to get a taste of what would have been, the novelization by Chet Williamson is based directly off of the original screenplay, and preserves Tim Pope's intentions for the film.
I met rob zombie at a James o'barr panel at comic con in San Diego in the 90's.... had promotional pins (that I wish I still had) and everything for a rob zombie crow flick. I will say, that the crow franchise shouldn't have been another Eric Draven etc doing more of the same. or inflicting revenge on others on part of someone else... it was always supposed to be "another" person becoming the crow...
I've said for about 20 years now that the comic miniseries "The Crow - Flesh And Blood" should be adapted into a film, instead of circling the bowl with the obsessive drive to retell Eric's story. This is a franchise with a lot of potential, but it was originally squandered by Pressman and Miramax, first by rushing "City of Angels" into production and then absolutely butchering director Tim Pope's finished product, and then going increasingly cheap with "Salvation" and "Wicked Prayer".
I was there in the audience with you in 1997 and I still have my pin! My buddy asked Zombie if his movie was going to still have the theme of love transcending death and stuff like that, and Zombie replied with "This one's gonna have zombies and vampires killing vampires."
Can't believe its already October, great video to start the month,i love the first crow,not only is the premise alone very hard to remake or reboot,but good luck topping or even coming close to Lee's performance,it was masterful and memorizing
Ok, #1; the second Crow-movie was not THAT bad. It still a unique atmosphere like the OG. #2; I can also confirm, it was always supposed to be an anthology-series, Each film would be a different story and characters. #3; Hey, Hollywood, y'know WHY this remake isn't working out? BECAUSE THE CROW DOESN'T NEED A REBOOT!!!! the first one, despite all it's issues, is a timeless, iconic classic!! >=(
The crow came out when i was a teenager and ive been watching it every halloween since then. I have such an emotional attatchment to this film it brings me back to being that teenager again!
The white face mask makeup was only worn by Eric and since Sarah is in the sequel, she is the one who paints the new protagonist. It wasnt present in any of the other crow comic spin offs.
Yes because City of Angels or any of the other 10 sequels weren't god awful....It is hilarious though when people who work minimum wage jobs and have never made a movie LMFAO call others hacks....You do you, whatever gets you through the night....Im sure there will be 1500 more comic book movies for you to rush out and see.
It would be cool if you all did a video on the TV series. It’s bad but interesting. There’s another Crow, a Snake that’s like the evil version of The Crow, a secret society dedicated to finding the secrets of immortality through The Crow, and a whole new mythology. I think it would be worth a look
As much as I love Rob Zombie NOBODY --- NOBODY can add or redo the movie. The original O'Barr story , the Proyas film, and the unmatchable perfection of Brandon Lee's Crow were little bits of perfection , beauty, and vengeance that will never be outdone. I waited for hours on the first day and first showing of the Crow and was waiting with breath held that the director had not deviated so much as to destroy the essence of James O'barrs 4 issue comic with the last installment being finished with the 3td mini graphic novel from Tundra. HAving lost two people right before getting the complete Crow comic series. The work became very personal.for me ------ the idea of love being strong enough to transcend deat. R.I.P. Brandon Lee you gave us such an incredible performance and just as recently as a week ago I watched with as much awe and respect as I had any of the 175- 200 times I watched the movie. Thank you J.Obarr for introducing me to Rimbaud , creating a character that was just as vulnerable as violent------ a force more powerful than the ugliness that surrounds is......and for making me want to find my Shelly which I finally did.
This is my all time favorite movie and has been since the night it opened. We don't need a sequel, remake, reboot or anything of the Crow. It is perfect and to try and touch it with a sequel or remake would only pail in comparison. Also did anyone else get annoyed that every time they showed Sarah in this video he called her Shelly? Shelly was his fiancé, Sarah was the friend they sorta looked after bc her mom was a junkie.
Too bad he hasn't actually done that yet. Although he did salvage Halloween from the trash that was Halloween 5-6, H20, Resurrection and half of that god awful Halloween 18....Sounds like a personal problem if you were too dim to actually understand what H2 was, although it does get explained in the commentary for the people who were too dim to understand it.
Mia Kirshner as Sarah in City of Angels was the highlight of that film. It would have been a better film if she had been "The Crow" in that movie. The female Crow was one of the better characters in what was the third comic series and where it wouldn't have been the exact same plot as the book it would have been a better take and made it more than just a rehash of the original.
It would have been a better film if Miramax hadn't come in and completely changed it in the editing room. The film that Tim Pope shot is not the film that was released. As for a female Crow-revenant, I agree. That's why I've said for about 2 decades now that they should adapt the comic miniseries "The Crow - Flesh and Blood" into a film.
This isn’t even a proper representation of the script. Basil is killed and resurrected as a child, which is why he doesn’t remember what happened for 27 years and why he has powers that no one understands, but is put to use by his bounty hunting mentor who took in the child shortly after his resurrection. The script is way trippier than this video even approaches, like Damian having communion with actual Lucifer through some bio mechanical device
The original Crow worked, because Brandon Lee was a phenomenal actor as well as action star & could convey emotions with just a glance. all the sequels,;which i did see and you should not bother with, lack that human need of resolution his character exhibited. glad zombie did not get to make that remake, hopefully with what he's learned from making other projects, he'll make a competent Munster movie..
the follow-up to the crow that james o'barr wrote "dead time" kinda sorta had elements of zombie's script and james wrote his comic book first with a character named joshua. but even "dead time" told a completely different story from zombie's "2037" script. they both deal with someone brought back from the dead several years later.
The Crow would've made Brandon Lee a mega star... it was a perfect movie for its genre. Too bad it will always have the stigma of Brandon's death. That said, I like some of Rob Zombie's stuff... but it always seems highly derivative and hackey. Rob tries really hard, but most of his films are utterly forgettable, IMO.
There was also a 4th Crow movie with Edward Furlong, David Boreanaz and Tara Reid. I didn't enjoy it at all - watered down and more of the same. I just figured I'd mention it 😊.
Another interesting episode! Doesn't sound any worse than the sequels we already have honestly. I could name so many options for another episode but to keep it short and to the point.. Can the next episode be on House Of Re-Animator?
A powerful supernatural agent of vengeance wielding a sword, riding a horse in the future that fights demons in a post-apocalypse? We have Vampire Hunter D at home, Rob.
After rewatching the original last year I still feel like any more sequels will all be in vain. The actors were perfectly cast, the score and soundtrack have no hopes of being topped (NIN, The Cure, STP, etc), and the power of knowing it was Lee’s last and best film helps leave a lasting impact on the viewers!
The Crow doesn’t need a remake or a sequel. Maybe the fact that Hollywood hasn’t been able to make a good sequel or even get a remake on film is a sign that if you have a great film you should just keep it at that and move on to other unrelated film projects. Just move on.
thanks for sharing yr video on the crow i seen the crow with brandon lee at movie theather 4to 6 times once on my birthday in the early 90s now i own all 4 films on dvd later on tv series came to tv based on the first film soon i will find crow comics
Tom Hiddleston as The Crow would be cool. How about a video on all the unmade Dr Phibes sequels including the one Johnny Depp was SUPPOSED to do sometime after Dark Shadows???? I heard it was supposed to be an entire franchise, making about 6 films, taking up after the 2nd Phibes movie which is why that film alluded to more movies with its ending...
@@corvus1970 Absolutely. It's nowhere near the best but I respect it that it was trying to do something different than City of Angels and the main lead was pretty good. I also love how his makeup is permanent burnt scars. That's really clever.
Haha I was going to say the same thing and figured I would check the comments to see if anyone else saw the similarities. A D movie could be awesome but I’m not sure Zombie is the man for the job
Crow: CoA and Crow: Salvation are both almost good films, but they each lack the sense of imagination, skill or style behind the lens and the charisma in front of it that made the first Crow special.
I remember reading RZ's script years ago, it would've been a really kickass movie, and there's no reason why it still couldn't be made someday. Salvation is the best Crow sequel, but there's no question 2037 would've topped that. I've always wondered what Mr. Zombie thought about a remix of "Living Dead Girl" being in Salvation.
I think it's the worst script I've ever read and I've read hundreds of movie scripts. There were some cool ideas in it, but overall it was some of the worst writing I've seen. Not surprised someone that doesn't know anything about writing loves it.
@@Largentina. Hey, whoa now, you don't know anything about me. I've been writing short stories and scripts for a long time. I also happen to like every Rob Zombie movie, so obviously I'd trust him to do a good job.
I could consider the Crow a horror movie .Bit a gothic hero with some Poe stuff involved with it .But it would cool if he a second chance at it ,since his movie should be more popular now .And he has that classic edginess to him .O maybe he should a Spwan movie if ever comes out by Mcfarline .
If he could commit to the legacy of The Crow, I think Zombie would be a great collaborator for the script. I'd say a more focused hand for the Crow's story should be writing alongside him for sure, but Zombie has had some really interesting work on his own.
The movie was cool but all the nerds that thought that all it took to become the crow was to pick up a black coat at a second hand was the worst of cringe... The same thing with the Matrix. Everyone and their grandma called themselves Neo on the internet and thought they could see the code. Some movie should come with more than an age rating. It should also say "No you will not be as cool as this no matter how hard you try" warning :D
Its kinda hilarious to see all these emo people cry about how amazing it is, when literally the only reason it made money was because of Brandon Lee's death. IF he hadn't died the only people who would have went to see it would have been the Hot Topic shopping emo cutter goth crowd and it would have likely been a flop..... I thought it when pretty decent when I was 16, you could not pay me to watch it now, it hasn't aged well and almost every song in it is just god awful screamo garbage that hasn't been good since the early 90s
I wish someone would review the Friday the 13th novels and give some insight as to what they’re about and story details. I see them for sale on EBay and there aren’t tons of copies out there. Aren’t there other slasher films that have spin off novels?
I seen a 5-10minute short Horror take on Willy Wonka, with Christopher Lloyd as Wonka. It is called GOBSTOPPER. It looked great. I would love to know what ever happened to that???
The Crow Stairway to Heaven They had a 5 season plan the show was leading up to a battle of Heaven vs Hell and The Crows were the Avatars of Heaven sworn to protect us from those who do evil. It was going to be a whole another reason why Eric Draven was chosen. In The the movie Eric and Shelly were killed over the refusal of using there loft for Devils Night and it took a year for Eric to be brought back because at that same time Officer Albright was trying to seek justice for them but when he failed the time had come for The Crow to bring Eric Draven back to set the wrong thinks right. The show was a little different Eric found out the owner of the Black Out was ordering murder contracts and dealing in death and insurance money he and Shelly died because of this and officer Albright tried to seek justice but failed that's why it took a year to Bring Eric Draven back. There was however a deeper reason why Eric was chosen a man named Mr Reyes ordered so many deaths because he was hoping that one would be brought back as a Crow so he would convert that avatar into a Snake to do evil and he succeed with Eric Draven.
The crow city of angels. The studio butchered it Tim pope had a much better scope for the film I hope one day they release it. Reading the script and the deleted scenes could have been a decent sequel
@@faz1483 well if you see how strange and different his plans were for "the Crow"... Edward's remake would have to have Rob Zombies' touch of directorial freedom
@@EMal-mf9pc Directorial freedom? You mean like the original Edward Scissor Hands? What is this generation's obsession with remakes, don't any of you have original ideas?
@@Largentina. I usually hate remakes and I do like the original Edward scissor hands, but that's what Rob Zombie was proposing to do with the Crow,... a remake and honestly I'd rather see him do a twisted version of Edward Scissor Hands. The Crow is perfectly twisted as it is.
If I were them I go with younger actors like Taylor Lautner or Zac Efron or Cody Christian or Tyler Blackburn they're still young so choose one of them as the crow just make sure they stay committed to what Brandon Lee did
I remember reading about this which would have been interesting but we ended up with The Crow: Salvation as a DTV and a song included in the film from Rob Zombie of a remix version to Living Dead Girl
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We do not need a second Crow movie.. The first one still holds up just fine. Great movie
There’s like 4 movies and a tv show that flopped
@@seanodeli7031 I rest my case.
The first 2 are cool and the show was good
It's so good that I bought it on yt
I like the third film a lot and my girl and I recently finished the series. We really enjoyed it actually. Has a strong 90s low budget vibe. Super cool.
I saw The Crow in the theater probably 5-6 times as a 16 year old. It’s still one of my all time faves. The sequels were but shadows of the original.
I was also about 16 and I still remember how fckn pumped I was going out of the theater
Thats being polite
The sequels don't hold a candle to the original, though I thought Salvation was done very well. City of Angels grew on me, and I've been hoping to see the original cut for way too long now. Wicked Prayer was an odd one, still don't know how I feel about it, but damn, what a cast!
I was around 10 and it's still one of my favorites. I own three different copies in three mediums, plus the original graphic novel. I liked that third one all right. The second was meh. Didn't even bother watching that fourth one with John Conner in it lol heard it was awful, though
I was... I don't remember, but definitely not old enough. Maybe 14-15? The theater worker asked us "are you guys 18?", we said with little squeaker voices "yes!!".
The movie was at a theater all the way across town and there was nothing really around that area that we could go do if we didn't get into the theater. My dad dropped us off, and had already left.
So... with our nerves on edge, we waited for the workers response.
"No you're not...", he said.
Damn.
"...but this movie is awesome, you guys need to go see it", he continued.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really want to see the Directors Cut of The Crow: City of Angels
Heard Dimension got involved and ordered cuts which completely changed the film.
@@charlesdavis7285 Yeah I know, thanks to Harvey Shitstain, well karma is what he is now in Jail
Same here, I always felt there was a good movie hiding underneath.
Sadly, I doubt we'll ever see it. The closest we ever got was the PPV version that included a few extended scenes, but it's never been made available.
But yeah, the cuts made by MIRAMAX drastically altered the film's structure and climax. If you want to get a taste of what would have been, the novelization by Chet Williamson is based directly off of the original screenplay, and preserves Tim Pope's intentions for the film.
There is no directors cut... but there is an extremely hard to find fan done re-cut which re-edits the film into the directors vision and it's apparently a far better film. I've never seen it and I enjoyed CoA for what it is... it's not the original or as good as it by any standard, but the use of color is fantastic.
I adored the original Crow! Such a great movie! You can not replace Brandon Lee, he was outstanding!
How are going to do it if he's already not alive and dead inside real life. You should probably recast the role as a younger one.
Agree totally. Brandon is Eric, every time Hollywood tries to recast an iconic character they fail miserably. I have heard rumors that they are going to try a remake of this and I am not a fan of remakes in the least especially if the original was the equivalent of lightning in a bottle but from what I've heard they were going to cast Bill Skarsgard as Draven and to be honest that sorta peaked my curiosity bc he might actually do the role justice. But on the other hand I'm always going to be biased bc this movie was a big part of my high school years and still remains my favorite movie to this day
The little girl in the first movie is named Sarah, not Shelly, get it together man!
Agreed its just painful to hear both times.
Maybe she identifies as a Shelly? No joke
Shelly was the fiancé of Eric Draven.
Yeah! Shelly was the dead girlfriend. =)
Exactly... I was cringing Everytime he would call Sarah, Shelly.... He made an entire video and couldn't even get something so simple as a character name. geez
I swear I remember interviews or articles with Rob Zombie talking about remaking or making a sequel to The Blob. Now that's one you guys should cover at some point.
I still remember those rumors, that would've been so cool! I also remember articles about a possible movie about The Unholy Two, the bounty hunter team from Devil's Rejects. Danny Trejo can't do that anymore, but maybe Diamond Dallas Page can go on a solo revenge mission against the Rejects.
I think someone brought that up to him not that ago about the blob and he said something along the lines of that it was to Due to Creative Differences that his version of the film didn’t happen
Glad it didn’t work out, his movies are trash
I was in middle school when The Crow came out. I saw it twice in theaters, and that Halloween, every kid dressed up as the Crow, myself included. Actually, my best friend, and my sister did as well.
Same here hahah, I was in Elementary school 😅
The Crow: The Bride. They better make this movie some day!
Oh yes as from the reports I've read The Crow: The Bride was going to be an adaption of one of the most popular storylines in the comics The Crow: Flesh and Blood which focused on Iris Shaw a game warden who along with her unborn child, and several innocent people including a US Marshal were brutally murdered when a group of right-wing extremist ranchers were poaching coyotes by poisoning them simply because they didn't like the government turning land into protected wildlife habitats blow up the federal building the pregnant Iris, a US Marshal, and several innocent people are in including a kind-hearted nursing home worker who died due to suffocating to death via rubble from the blown up building falling on her.
And so on the anniversary of her, her unborn child and the innocent people's murders Iris is brought back as the latest Crow and after making peace with her husband/father of the unborn child Rick and painting the image of a crow on her face with black face paint instead of the usual harlequin lines she sets off on her quest of retribution, and justice and her kills are actually symbolic as she's not out for vengeance but justice as she believes that vengeance is something that anyone enraged can get and won't ease her soul and bring her peace but the only thing that will ease her soul and get her the peace she desires is justice and so she kills her targets in ways that mirror the deaths of the various innocent individuals who died in the explosion with her and her unborn child for example the first 2 of Iris's targets she doesn't kill them instead she brings to a area and digs two human sized holes in the ground and then after using the power to make the targets see the pain of their victims and makes them see the kind-hearted nursing home worker suffocate to death under the rubble of the blown up building pushes them in the holes she dug and buries them alive so they can know the fear, terror, and mental pain of dying a slowing agonizing death via suffocation.
And of course partway through the FBI gets involved which actually makes sense as the building the bad guys blew up at the start was a federal building.
One of my favorite flicks EVER..Went to the the theater opening w.end with my older brother(I was 13-14) and his people. When I learned the origins of O'Barrs inspiration to create the series I was torn imagining just how he felt 😩
I love the Crow and City of Angels however bad it is has some redeeming qualities, the Photography is just amazing, the color palette and the scene where Iggy Pop is sent in the river is pure gold, Tim Pope did a pretty nice job with a horrible script. Salvation is a nightmare and I just love how you didn't bother to mention Wicked Prayer, I believe everyone involved in it appreciate if we forget that ever happened
Not much love for the TV series Stairway to Heaven either; a pity since Mark Dacascos was the perfect casting choice for a Crow sequel.
Wicked prayer was a cheese fest , it was so bad, my friends and I couldn’t stop laughing . Furlong was a short goth chick that was flying everywhere 🤣
Part of Rob Zombie's pitch to studio heads -
RZ- "The world's inhabited by ghouls"
SH- "Ghouls?"
RZ- "Little green ghouls, man!"
"..people's knees.."
No white horses please
And please leave his wife out of it
“But with lots of profanity and incest family members that worship the devil, and my wife will play a witch etc” -RZ
The Crow is one of my favorite movies. It's ashame that every sequel after it was more and more trash than the previous one
Like Jaws (1975), Hellraiser (1988), Robocop (1987), House (1985) or Highlander (1986), The Crow (1994) is a genre classic best enjoyed by pretending that its sequels never happened.
Any missed Zob Rombie project is a win for the rest of us
Wha
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Nah I like his movies, even Lords of Salem. But then again im not an imbecile and knew to watch it as if it were an art house flick and not a horror/studio movie, and, actually understood H2
@@lutherheggs451 yes yes, the depth of Rombie’s “white trash” stereotypes is reminiscent of Fellini’s b&w films of the 60s.
@@matthewthelionheart exactly, everything he makes is the Sawyer family wannabe edgelord , then add his yoko OnO wife in the film and bam! RZ movie .
James O'Barr had such a terribly sad story that actually was the motivation behind him writing and creating the comic
I had read The Crow 2037 script and i think Tim Burton should direct it, there are so many Classic Horror movie reference in this script and also so many Burton Tropes in that
-Pale face protagonist with akward personality
-lonely gothic castle where rich/powerfull antagonist dwell
-Flashback/traumatized childhood
-Forest with creatures of darkness
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I remember reading an interview with Rob Zombie in the mid-ish 2000's where he specifically named Christopher Lee as the actor that he wanted to play the main villain in this. Rob even said, "I wanted to bring Lee back to theaters. This was before he started showing up everywhere in Star Wars and Lord of the Rings movies. And at the time I was writing this, I was thinking that he's so iconic to not be used in big films that it's a crime."
Mark Decascos was a decent Crow on tv, maybe have him return in some way, he can narrate a new Crow's story from an old Crow's perspective. Mark's a big commodity for action now that he was a major character in a John Wick movie.
I liked the show
" Is that gasoline I smell?"
I followed the development of this film at the time, and I was always glad that it completely fell through. Also, a LOT of people have already told you, but Sarah was the name of the young girl in the original film. Shelly was the name of Eric's fiancé. That's a fairly embarrassing gaffe.
I actually liked the city of angels. Vincent Perez is a wonderful actor and I loved the Gothic vibes the movie gave. Also the soundtrack was subpar.
No doubt
Idk why but the villain reminded me of Tony Todd/Candyman
I have affection for it, but what we got was not the film that director Tim Pope intended and shot. Miramax came in and absolutely butchered it in the editing room, and changed up the film's narrative and its climax as well, and it looks like most of what was cut, save for a tiny handful of extended scenes, was disposed of.
If you want to get a taste of what would have been, the novelization by Chet Williamson is based directly off of the original screenplay, and preserves Tim Pope's intentions for the film.
@@dominiquejones3805 back then I thought it was him lol
The unmade sequel for The Thing produced by Frank Darabont that was supposed to be a mini-series on the sci-fi channel.
Brandon Lee was a special actor and this is his movie. No other actor I believe can replace the original crow lead actor.
I met rob zombie at a James o'barr panel at comic con in San Diego in the 90's.... had promotional pins (that I wish I still had) and everything for a rob zombie crow flick. I will say, that the crow franchise shouldn't have been another Eric Draven etc doing more of the same. or inflicting revenge on others on part of someone else... it was always supposed to be "another" person becoming the crow...
I wish someone would make the school teacher Crow a movie. With bombings and school shootings a US norm it would be sick, different, and poignant.
I've said for about 20 years now that the comic miniseries "The Crow - Flesh And Blood" should be adapted into a film, instead of circling the bowl with the obsessive drive to retell Eric's story.
This is a franchise with a lot of potential, but it was originally squandered by Pressman and Miramax, first by rushing "City of Angels" into production and then absolutely butchering director Tim Pope's finished product, and then going increasingly cheap with "Salvation" and "Wicked Prayer".
@@philipjay2099 I loved that story
@@kevinanderson3753 if they do it, I hope they get the person who voiced Saya from yugioh arc v to play Iris Shaw.
I was there in the audience with you in 1997 and I still have my pin!
My buddy asked Zombie if his movie was going to still have the theme of love transcending death and stuff like that, and Zombie replied with "This one's gonna have zombies and vampires killing vampires."
I'm not sure how I would've felt him redoing a movie like this and his style.
Can't believe its already October, great video to start the month,i love the first crow,not only is the premise alone very hard to remake or reboot,but good luck topping or even coming close to Lee's performance,it was masterful and memorizing
Ok, #1;
the second Crow-movie was not THAT bad. It still a unique atmosphere like the OG.
#2; I can also confirm, it was always supposed to be an anthology-series, Each film would be a different story and characters.
#3; Hey, Hollywood, y'know WHY this remake isn't working out? BECAUSE THE CROW DOESN'T NEED A REBOOT!!!! the first one, despite all it's issues, is a timeless, iconic classic!! >=(
So thankful to hear this didn't happen. The Crow is just sacred and should be left alone for the rest of eternity.
Would've been better than the other sequels
That comment didn’t age well with sequels…
@@fernie-fernandez they don't exist to me and even so they're not Eric Draven. Only Brandon Lee is Eric Draven.
Rest easy Brandon, you're still remembered and we're still praising your performance. 🥀
The crow came out when i was a teenager and ive been watching it every halloween since then. I have such an emotional attatchment to this film it brings me back to being that teenager again!
While nothing compares to the original, I love all the crow movies in their own way. Hell even the show had its moments.
The white face mask makeup was only worn by Eric and since Sarah is in the sequel, she is the one who paints the new protagonist. It wasnt present in any of the other crow comic spin offs.
Just another beloved film that hack would’ve pissed all over and called it a movie.
Yes because City of Angels or any of the other 10 sequels weren't god awful....It is hilarious though when people who work minimum wage jobs and have never made a movie LMFAO call others hacks....You do you, whatever gets you through the night....Im sure there will be 1500 more comic book movies for you to rush out and see.
My opinion of Zombie has soured with age.
@@lutherheggs451 Or the laughably awful TV series
I'm sorry, can you be clear on your definition of hack?
@@Easun36 That sounds right Lol
It would be cool if you all did a video on the TV series. It’s bad but interesting. There’s another Crow, a Snake that’s like the evil version of The Crow, a secret society dedicated to finding the secrets of immortality through The Crow, and a whole new mythology. I think it would be worth a look
They need to do The Crow: Flesh & Blood about the woman who comes back to avenge her and her unborn child's deaths.
Rob would put Sheri Moon to that :D
@@TJS3, fair point.
As much as I love Rob Zombie NOBODY --- NOBODY can add or redo the movie. The original O'Barr story , the Proyas film, and the unmatchable perfection of Brandon Lee's Crow were little bits of perfection , beauty, and vengeance that will never be outdone. I waited for hours on the first day and first showing of the Crow and was waiting with breath held that the director had not deviated so much as to destroy the essence of James O'barrs 4 issue comic with the last installment being finished with the 3td mini graphic novel from Tundra. HAving lost two people right before getting the complete Crow comic series. The work became very personal.for me ------ the idea of love being strong enough to transcend deat. R.I.P. Brandon Lee you gave us such an incredible performance and just as recently as a week ago I watched with as much awe and respect as I had any of the 175- 200 times I watched the movie. Thank you J.Obarr for introducing me to Rimbaud , creating a character that was just as vulnerable as violent------ a force more powerful than the ugliness that surrounds is......and for making me want to find my Shelly which I finally did.
This is my all time favorite movie and has been since the night it opened.
We don't need a sequel, remake, reboot or anything of the Crow. It is perfect and to try and touch it with a sequel or remake would only pail in comparison.
Also did anyone else get annoyed that every time they showed Sarah in this video he called her Shelly? Shelly was his fiancé, Sarah was the friend they sorta looked after bc her mom was a junkie.
The full length version of Event Horizon. That's what we all need
I don't t wanna see Rob Zombie take a dump on another classic. He should stick to his own brand of demented horror.
Too bad he hasn't actually done that yet. Although he did salvage Halloween from the trash that was Halloween 5-6, H20, Resurrection and half of that god awful Halloween 18....Sounds like a personal problem if you were too dim to actually understand what H2 was, although it does get explained in the commentary for the people who were too dim to understand it.
He should just quit making anything altogether. Everything from his music to his writing and directing is a cringe fest.
I am so glad Rob zombie didn't ruin this movie as well.
Somehow sounds worse than the Edward Furlong version
No chance. Wicked Prayer is probably the worst movie ever made.
I dunno if I'd go QUITE that far, because " Wicked Prayer" is fucking horrid.
@@corvus1970 🎯facts but wicked prayer is a good comedy movie because my friends and I couldn’t stop laughing how cheesy it turned out
You can never remake or sequelize this film its untouchable
They already sequelized it. Luckily, making a new movie doesn't make the original disappear, so we'll always have that.
Leave the crow alone. The original doesn't hit everything from the comic, but it's close enough. Absolutely my favorite movie ever.
Could you do a video on Versus (2000) and why this doesn't have more cult following and a sequel
Mia Kirshner as Sarah in City of Angels was the highlight of that film. It would have been a better film if she had been "The Crow" in that movie. The female Crow was one of the better characters in what was the third comic series and where it wouldn't have been the exact same plot as the book it would have been a better take and made it more than just a rehash of the original.
It would have been a better film if Miramax hadn't come in and completely changed it in the editing room. The film that Tim Pope shot is not the film that was released.
As for a female Crow-revenant, I agree. That's why I've said for about 2 decades now that they should adapt the comic miniseries "The Crow - Flesh and Blood" into a film.
This isn’t even a proper representation of the script. Basil is killed and resurrected as a child, which is why he doesn’t remember what happened for 27 years and why he has powers that no one understands, but is put to use by his bounty hunting mentor who took in the child shortly after his resurrection.
The script is way trippier than this video even approaches, like Damian having communion with actual Lucifer through some bio mechanical device
Eric never gets touched in the original comic either and he’s extremely relatable
The original Crow worked, because Brandon Lee was a phenomenal actor as well as action star & could convey emotions with just a glance. all the sequels,;which i did see and you should not bother with, lack that human need of resolution his character exhibited. glad zombie did not get to make that remake, hopefully with what he's learned from making other projects, he'll make a competent Munster movie..
I would've wanted to see this simply because I'm a fan of The Crow in general.
You never forget your first?
Robbie Jones
the follow-up to the crow that james o'barr wrote "dead time" kinda sorta had elements of zombie's script and james wrote his comic book first with a character named joshua. but even "dead time" told a completely different story from zombie's "2037" script. they both deal with someone brought back from the dead several years later.
I gotten an entire publicity material set for the VHS release from the local video store, that wasn't going to use them.
Zombie is such a spectacular hack, but even his crap probably would have been better than the tripe we got as sequels.
Brandon Lee was absolutely fantastic. He left this world a freaking legend.
The Crow should be left alone it's a cult classic and never should be remade
Red Sonja by Robert Rodriguez.
Sheri moon as the crow
Oh christ!!!! 🤣
A Crow film set in a Blade Runner type future could be interesting.
The Crow would've made Brandon Lee a mega star... it was a perfect movie for its genre. Too bad it will always have the stigma of Brandon's death. That said, I like some of Rob Zombie's stuff... but it always seems highly derivative and hackey. Rob tries really hard, but most of his films are utterly forgettable, IMO.
There was also a 4th Crow movie with Edward Furlong, David Boreanaz and Tara Reid. I didn't enjoy it at all - watered down and more of the same. I just figured I'd mention it 😊.
one of the worst movies I've ever seen...
@@faz1483 love most of the actors in it, but agreed. It was AWFUL.
So bad it’s actually laughable 😅
@@Ishitonyou666 agreed!
3:56 & 7:24 - Sarah.
Another interesting episode! Doesn't sound any worse than the sequels we already have honestly. I could name so many options for another episode but to keep it short and to the point.. Can the next episode be on House Of Re-Animator?
I saw Rob Zombie post his Crow art on his IG and I was sad it didn't get made....after watching this video I can't thank god enough it wasn't.
A powerful supernatural agent of vengeance wielding a sword, riding a horse in the future that fights demons in a post-apocalypse? We have Vampire Hunter D at home, Rob.
The first one is a timeless classic. Rob Zombie would've trashed the legacy like everything he touches
Sounds like zombie was playing alot of fallout when he wrote his script
Zombie seemed very keen back in the day. Shame the plan never came to fruition.
After rewatching the original last year I still feel like any more sequels will all be in vain. The actors were perfectly cast, the score and soundtrack have no hopes of being topped (NIN, The Cure, STP, etc), and the power of knowing it was Lee’s last and best film helps leave a lasting impact on the viewers!
The Crow doesn’t need a remake or a sequel. Maybe the fact that Hollywood hasn’t been able to make a good sequel or even get a remake on film is a sign that if you have a great film you should just keep it at that and move on to other unrelated film projects. Just move on.
I would take Zombis version of The Crow over any of the sequels or soft reboot. At least it’s different 🤷♂️
Guillermo del Toro's In the mountains of madness.
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As crazy as it sounds, it's not like the sequels we got weren't pure trash
Whoa...😮...this would've been some pretty wild shat...🤘🏼💯✔️
thanks for sharing yr video on the crow i seen the crow with brandon lee at movie theather 4to 6 times once on my birthday in the early 90s now i own all 4 films on dvd later on tv series came to tv based on the first film soon i will find crow comics
Love your video! How do you feel about Bill Skarsgård officially portraying Draven?
i’ve never seen a good rob zombie film
I agree his movies are horrible
That's because it doesn't exist.
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What's the art at 0:58 from?
Tom Hiddleston as The Crow would be cool.
How about a video on all the unmade Dr Phibes sequels including the one Johnny Depp was SUPPOSED to do sometime after Dark Shadows???? I heard it was supposed to be an entire franchise, making about 6 films, taking up after the 2nd Phibes movie which is why that film alluded to more movies with its ending...
I read the script a long time ago and it was probably the absolute WORST script I have ever read. I am SO glad we got Salvation instead.
Same. And Salvation wasn't great by any means, but it was better than this.
@@corvus1970 Absolutely. It's nowhere near the best but I respect it that it was trying to do something different than City of Angels and the main lead was pretty good. I also love how his makeup is permanent burnt scars. That's really clever.
The world of Zombie's flick sounds a lot like Vampire Hunter D. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
Haha I was going to say the same thing and figured I would check the comments to see if anyone else saw the similarities. A D movie could be awesome but I’m not sure Zombie is the man for the job
It's a bad thing
@@johnpentiak2240 terrible
Crow: CoA and Crow: Salvation are both almost good films, but they each lack the sense of imagination, skill or style behind the lens and the charisma in front of it that made the first Crow special.
"He has a sword I guess because Top Dollar had one in the original?"
Someone hasn't read the comics.
Rob is a legend
I remember reading RZ's script years ago, it would've been a really kickass movie, and there's no reason why it still couldn't be made someday. Salvation is the best Crow sequel, but there's no question 2037 would've topped that. I've always wondered what Mr. Zombie thought about a remix of "Living Dead Girl" being in Salvation.
Ehh. When I read they were giant monsters in the script, I wanted to burn the script.
@@brandonspain12345I haven't read it in a long time, lol. I forgot about that part, but honestly, I'd be eager to see monsters from Rob Zombie's mind.
I think it's the worst script I've ever read and I've read hundreds of movie scripts. There were some cool ideas in it, but overall it was some of the worst writing I've seen. Not surprised someone that doesn't know anything about writing loves it.
@@Largentina. Hey, whoa now, you don't know anything about me. I've been writing short stories and scripts for a long time. I also happen to like every Rob Zombie movie, so obviously I'd trust him to do a good job.
@@WhatPlantsCrave-ur1ht yeah no RZ movies are all trash , wannabe sawyer family profanity nonsense. Also his wife is in every film 🙄
I could consider the Crow a horror movie .Bit a gothic hero with some Poe stuff involved with it .But it would cool if he a second chance at it ,since his movie should be more popular now .And he has that classic edginess to him .O maybe he should a Spwan movie if ever comes out by Mcfarline .
You don't know anything about The Crow.
If he could commit to the legacy of The Crow, I think Zombie would be a great collaborator for the script.
I'd say a more focused hand for the Crow's story should be writing alongside him for sure, but Zombie has had some really interesting work on his own.
You got to be kidding me, all his movies are the same
The movie was cool but all the nerds that thought that all it took to become the crow was to pick up a black coat at a second hand was the worst of cringe...
The same thing with the Matrix.
Everyone and their grandma called themselves Neo on the internet and thought they could see the code.
Some movie should come with more than an age rating.
It should also say "No you will not be as cool as this no matter how hard you try" warning
:D
Its kinda hilarious to see all these emo people cry about how amazing it is, when literally the only reason it made money was because of Brandon Lee's death. IF he hadn't died the only people who would have went to see it would have been the Hot Topic shopping emo cutter goth crowd and it would have likely been a flop.....
I thought it when pretty decent when I was 16, you could not pay me to watch it now, it hasn't aged well and almost every song in it is just god awful screamo garbage that hasn't been good since the early 90s
@@lutherheggs451 Hehhhhe
I wish someone would review the Friday the 13th novels and give some insight as to what they’re about and story details. I see them for sale on EBay and there aren’t tons of copies out there. Aren’t there other slasher films that have spin off novels?
Thank God this version never came about... the original Crow was perfect
I don't really consider The Crow a horror film, more like a extremely dark and futuristic gothic action movie.
I seen a 5-10minute short Horror take on Willy Wonka, with Christopher Lloyd as Wonka. It is called GOBSTOPPER. It looked great. I would love to know what ever happened to that???
Gobstopper was a Funny or Die skit lol
@@JesseSwaney It was a good take on Willy Wonka
The Crow Stairway to Heaven
They had a 5 season plan the show was leading up to a battle of Heaven vs Hell and The Crows were the Avatars of Heaven sworn to protect us from those who do evil. It was going to be a whole another reason why Eric Draven was chosen.
In The the movie Eric and Shelly were killed over the refusal of using there loft for Devils Night and it took a year for Eric to be brought back because at that same time Officer Albright was trying to seek justice for them but when he failed the time had come for The Crow to bring Eric Draven back to set the wrong thinks right.
The show was a little different Eric found out the owner of the Black Out was ordering murder contracts and dealing in death and insurance money he and Shelly died because of this and officer Albright tried to seek justice but failed that's why it took a year to Bring Eric Draven back. There was however a deeper reason why Eric was chosen a man named Mr Reyes ordered so many deaths because he was hoping that one would be brought back as a Crow so he would convert that avatar into a Snake to do evil and he succeed with Eric Draven.
The crow city of angels. The studio butchered it Tim pope had a much better scope for the film I hope one day they release it. Reading the script and the deleted scenes could have been a decent sequel
That movie would have been a big bucket of wtf.
Rob Zombie should rewrite an extremely dark and demented version of Edward Scissor Hands ✂️
Yeah I can see it now. Edward trying to open cans of PBR sitting in his trailer park
@@faz1483 well if you see how strange and different his plans were for "the Crow"... Edward's remake would have to have Rob Zombies' touch of directorial freedom
@@EMal-mf9pc Directorial freedom? You mean like the original Edward Scissor Hands? What is this generation's obsession with remakes, don't any of you have original ideas?
@@Largentina. I usually hate remakes and I do like the original Edward scissor hands, but that's what Rob Zombie was proposing to do with the Crow,... a remake and honestly I'd rather see him do a twisted version of Edward Scissor Hands. The Crow is perfectly twisted as it is.
@@EMal-mf9pc How about he just comes up with an original idea instead?
There's no Shelly:
Shows Sarah.
Lol
I was really excited back in the day to hear Zombie was doing the 3rd Crow film but am glad now this film was never made.
If I were them I go with younger actors like Taylor Lautner or Zac Efron or Cody Christian or Tyler Blackburn they're still young so choose one of them as the crow just make sure they stay committed to what Brandon Lee did
I'm not a fan of any of Rob Zombies movies but this does sound like a cool concept, maybe not as a Crow story but I'd want to see it.
I remember reading about this which would have been interesting but we ended up with The Crow: Salvation as a DTV and a song included in the film from Rob Zombie of a remix version to Living Dead Girl
I actually didn't mind Salvation. I liked it more than City of Angels and Wicked Prayer.
@@JnEricsonx I thought all the sequels were terrible. I'm glad you liked them though. That's makes one of you.
@@Largentina. the sequels were cringe