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"Of 13 characters, only 2 have survived" it's wrong cuz of 13 really survived Kevin, Hua and Griseo... And we could count Su (but it's complicated)... So yeah, but as much as I understand, everyone in ER died, cuz thay used safety protocol (or something like that)
The flamechasers were real people but the people in the Elysian realms were not. They were copies of the real flame chasers in a digital realm. The only surviving flame chasers are Griseo and hua. Kevin and su were alive but they died.
@@RandomDudeThatLovesAnimesshe was kinda the representative of origin, like the being responsible for creating everything, so she is like a part of all existence now, ascension you know
I wonder if he has a gf (DR MEI). Afterall the only reason he did all that in HI3 was because of his late gf. I really hope so because I kinda want a playable character with an official relationship status
@Shiyuuuuu same, but I doubt they'd give us a character in a romantic relationship, if Dr MEI exists I can imagine her and Kevin having alot of "and they were roommates" vibes.
Remember that every member of the express are either imaginary or have an imaginary form except himeko. Let’s see if she gets an imaginary form or becomes imaginary again
Say my name when a tree susurrates Once and again telling a story lost in time The way it starts and the way it ends Never again making up stories in dismay With several starts, but just one end Ah, how I long to embrace The future breaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Save your tears for the day so far away To irrigate the wilderness that’s still asleep In the world waiting to be lit To spread over the riverbeds, so dry and dead Let ships that ran aground re-launch their sails Ah, how I long to embrace The future breaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Seeds bear new life when flowers dare to fade Petals linger about Awaiting one last dance Shaking off all the dust from the past New stories have yet to start
Knowing that HSR is the 4th game from the Honkai series, it's no surprise they'll make it similar to Flamechasers story. Also from the trailer, Amphoreus looks like it's shaped as the Mobius Strip. Meaning there might be a looping situation happening in the story
Nah Hsr become a joke since Penacony No hate im Trailblazer too Since all 'dead' become alive and playable I don't think Hsr / Shaoji dare to kill any Character. Proof getting stronger Genshin who is 'kid game' is darker now Just play Natlan Archon quest
@@gaminglife8103 no denying that they're getting softer for each games they make, like GGZ & Hi3rd brutality is far different. But it's still 3.0 and it's mostly about us solving problems from one world to another, so it's just best to wait
A not so Small detail but it's important to note that the flame chasers were in fact real people from the previous era, they all existed and all died long before the main character of that arc (raiden mei) encountered one of them...Kevin who introduced her to the sims of said flame chasers in the elysian realm. The sims cannot leave the realm but they all were essentially the exact same people as the originals. Like a save file so to speak...they were also tangible as far we knew so they're not just projections and that's why their characters were easy to get attached to since as long as ur within the location housing the elysian realm, they're effectively as real as the originals. Hoyo won't do that again tho cause unfortunately the new fanbase in HSR doesn't have the capacity to consume sooo much lore. So hoyo most likely won't go with a route that demands u getting attached to 13 characters only to watch most of em die twice while still being compelling and condensed.
@Tsuki_XY well...we're already seeing hints of it now with the powers of hindsight...still don't think he'll go all the way unless if the people somehow get attached by the end.
At least he acknowledged what Kevin really was, a true hero... So... The only trauma so far for him is... Project Stigma and his daughter, Coralie's death that probably got resurrected, as here he is just after to protect Himeko and still holds the photo of them...
am i the only one that has realized Amphoreus also has a TON of similarities to Teyvat??? like i feel like im the only one who realized this when the first trailer came out; they referred to having something called the Black Tide. in one of the Natlan mini quests in a document we learn that during the time of Ochkanatlan, the people referred to the Abyss as the Black Tide, so i had a feeling that wasn’t a coincidence. and now that amphoreus is released we’ve learned that the parts where the Black Tide has consumed the world is called the ABYSS?? also the world being created by three titans, humans being created by three titans, and the downfall of the world being started by three titans is suspiciously similiar to Phanes creating the world, creating humans, and now becoming the enemy of humans while existing as three separate beings, the Three Shades of Phanes. oh yeah and of course the whole “sky being a prison” thing obviously sounding familiar to the sky being fake in genshin. oh and ofc when we encounter the Black Tide in game in looks oddly similiar to the Unkown God’s powers- but yeah there’s a LOT more than this i could go into but i’m trying to make my own lore video as well sooo.. i will give yall my top three theories though, just to keep it interesting: -Amphoreus is a simulated experiment -Amphoreus is one of the previous cycles of Teyvat, otherwise known as “the third cycle, Remuria” by the notes on the sunken tower in fontaine, and the Remuria we learn about in world quests was but a small portion of what was left of Amphoreus after the end of the third cycle -Ratio is connected to Amphoreus in some way, possibly even a Titankin considering his technique being so similar
Wait. We never knew who or what Kalpas in HI3 really was. Cause he was crazy powerful and certainly not human. If he's from HSR and somewhere in the story falls to Earth in the past that would explain a lot.
This is giving me flashbacks to Hi3 when Kiana tried to change her mother's fate during Second Eruption and succeeding only to find out it was a simulation. Not long after she became Herrscher of the Void.
Technically 4 of the survived, Fu Hua obviously, Kevin (though dying during the story, is still a survivor of the Previous Era), Griseo was later found in Cyro Sleep, And Su while not being physically present anymore still exists.
I know this might be late, but did anyone think during the last summer event in Genshin ( the Story Book ) that when you put the stars back in the sky. A reference to the Astral Express? Wether the book is Alice talking about the train’s existence, or that the Train will exist.
So, It may not exists, that's one theory. But, another theory is that Amphoreus was another planet from the same star sistem as Adlivun, so, after the ascent of Nanook, Amphoreus ended up decimated. That would also explain why the erudition and the remembrance are so interested about this world, it should not exist, but it still is there, as a memory left by the destruction.
I can’t take credit for the theory, I saw it on here somewhere, that perhaps Amphoreus was a true planet long ago, evidenced by the Trailblazer and Dan Heng realizing everyone is speaking the same language as them, so they likely intersected long ago. The Erudition is possibly present bc it was researching the fated calamity that would end the world, but instead of the world truly ending, it somehow fell into the Memory Zone, which is like the Sea of Quanta I suppose. The Imaginary Tree is the other side of the coin, and its many offshoots and branches give the physical world its shape by using the memories in the Sea as nutrients. The coreflames prophesied may actually be a stellaron or 12 stellaron fragments or something, every world so far has had a stellaron disaster. The disaster on this planet may have somehow broke the boundary and the planet sank into the Memory Zone and is no longer tangible. Hence why you’d need the Mirror of the Garden of Recollection to find it, otherwise you would just fly straight through where the planet should be. The end of the story will likely be the assembling of the 12 Coreflames and putting them in the pool of Memoria at the Vortex of Genesis and the miracle being that Amphoreus is once again granted physical form. The threat of not questioning or daring to cross beyond sky may be bc right now, there’s either nothing up there or it could somehow damage the precarious balance Amphoreus must maintain to stay existing at all. And you know damn well once we finish the story we’re gonna start having Events and side quests with Boothill, Sampo, etc traveling to Amphoreus or see the natives traveling to see Penacony/Jarilo-VI, etc.
they already did the murder mystery bit on penacony where things were like a simulation (like Elysian realm story). they wouldn't do the same thing so soon. The Hi3rd story team have said they wished they had more time to flesh out the flame chasers and with their recent interview talking about variants this was a good way to continue telling a story of known characters even if slightly different.
I have had a theory since black swan first talked about ampherous. Cause she said it can only be seen through the mirrors of the garden of recollection i assumed that's cause it died a long time ago and fuli just has a memory of it. And that's because Fuli came from ampherous but before it died (likely by the voracity when they had fighted with tazzyronth) cause fuli was said to come out of nowhere so mabye that's cause ampherous was so unknown that it seems like that
Play Honkai Impact 3rd and you'll see where they got all the good bits from,It's hands down their best game when it comes to the story and the cast of characters is honestly super likable.Higly recommend giving it a try(At least the first 10 chapters)
@@epicbrofist6531 Absolutely. 3rd ran so that Star Rail could fly. and GGZ walked so that 3rd could run. Hoyo has a long history of emotionally impactful storytelling.
I want ot cry. I want to see hte level of emotional storytelling that was able to introduce 13 characters and make me fall in love with them to the point that I still cry when I hear TruE play. I want the GOOD pain, the result of beautiful fictions that evoke real emotion.
it makes sense given the meaning of the path of remembrance. also in the Livestream they showed this new mechanic where you have to rewind time because in the present all is destroyed:/
I mean...the moment cocolia appeared everybody who knew her knew she would die at the end so Yea, stories repeating itself as hi3 was already checks out. But on the bright side we may get more Acheron if that's the case bc she was involved in hi3 story of ER. ........yay everyone is dead XD AND BTW: the total of flame chasers that survived was actually 4....maybe 5 :D.
This theory makes sense because Dan Heng mentioned about how they can still understand and talk with Phainon and people of Amphoreus despite it's people never knowing about the existence of other worlds or planets And in return Phainon (cmiiw) said "Maybe we had some sort of connection to other worlds before"
I predict due to the mobius strip look of the planet, that there is something related to infinity or some sort of infinite loop the people are trapped in experiencing. Perhaps reliving the same events over and over but over the course of eras? Maybe our arrival will change the loop?
i have theory for the end of amphoreus arc, the way it play is the story supposed to end like elysian realm with march as the catalyst, but this time we a few anomaly that make the story branch into new end, like the arrival of astral express crew, mc as the biggest anomaly and herta also play her role
i mean if we are meant to defy fate and the script then who knows maybe we will somehow bring them back to life that would definitely be something that wasn’t in the script maybe even somehow restore the planet entirely or go back to the past to prevent it’s destruction
I think the 3rd path is the finality. Cause if Amphoreus does turn out to be gone and the trailblazers are only experiencing it through memories it would mean it no longer exists which would be linked to finality since that path is focused on the end and the prophecy of Terminus. Plus the Chrysos Heirs are following a prophecy of their own which could have been given by Terminus through titans, emenators, etc. Since ethier himeko or black swan mentioned there are strong beings connected to the three paths on Amphoreus who could be emanators. This could be a cool way to introduce the path cause not much is known about it.
Correction: off the flame-chasers, 4 survided the past era, being them kevin, fu hua, griseo and su, the ones curently alive are hua, griseo and (debatably) su, there is room to also include mobius but that's highly unlikely at this point
i actually think mobius survived as well since she was immortal to a degree; only she knew the reach of her immortality and im sure she would want to survive to reach her infinity. she just didnt get into the cryopod stole a fragment of prometheus and disappeared from the story.
And on one IPC radio podcast they said about The world that was destroyed but prerserved by Garden of Recolection, this way all the history and culture survived. So is possible...
I mean, the trailblazers art shows them wielding a quill and mem holding a book, it reminds me of Princess Tutu with Drosselmeyer and Fakir being author and influencing the story
In the universe, theres a odd occurence (i forgot how it happens) where things look like they are there but when your there they have been gone for years apon years, maybe millenias Maybe this happens with Aphoreus, it has been hidden, this ties in with it being long destroyed, maybe while we go through the story, we see hints of it getting destroyed, and at the end the entire place and its people are revealed to be long gone
maybe that's the reason for a Memokeeper recommending there and to end something there, nihility MC, would be funnier if it's actually heavily related to March that's why there's are leaks of her having a new form, with those 3 aeons as a clue for her past representing it, erudition, rememberance and destruction
That would explain 3 things . 1- current amphoreous has "corruption" by black oose that resembles the black blocks from GI or data , all the nymphs disappeared leaving text messages 2- they might be stuck on a loop of time and the remembrance needs to know why, that would also explain why herta is involved since she already conquered time itself 3- the shape of the planet and the theme of the MC power being time manipulation to go past and future and actually (SPOILERS ) ADJUSTING THE NIKADOR FIGHT
Honestly lines up with what I’ve been thinking. Given Elysian Realm was a simulated reality, I figured that Amphoreus wasn’t real and part of the reason why Rememberance Trailblazer became a thing. Using the power of Rememberance would allow us to interact with memories of the past, and thematically it lines up with why we interacted with the Flamechasers before, to learn from their mistakes and move forward. And Im very excited to see Welt interact with Phainon specifically. Especially after the conversation between Welt and Acheron regarding Kevin. I think it’s also very possible to see some crossover since Vita and Sparkle have interacted recently so there might be a bit of that coming soon All of Amphoreus sounds really interesting imo and I’m very hyped to pull on these units too!
I think instead of the destruction it is the enigmata. But that's just my opinion. Lemme Explain: ( LORE DUMP) If Amphoreus has been destroyed, then I think with the power of the enigmata created an illusion of a planet. My theory is that none of these people actually exist so instead of Flamechasers they are all History Fictionologists. Except the two survivors you mentioned. The last thing you said made it make sense perfectly. Instead of the Elysian Realm, it is Amphoreus which is just a creation of Mythus the Enigmata and the characters don't exist anywhere else. Like their glued to Amphoreus. The remembrance part of Amphoreus might correspond with keeping the history of Amphoreus.Then the Erudition will hide the forbidden knowledge of Amphoreus.The Enigmata and the Remembrance collab would make things so cool. Lemme know what you think.
Well penacony was a story of the past that was changed by black swan and the story had a different ending, so hsr is already stories told from the past because the memokeepers are keepers of memories and are from outside of that reality and have the power to change reality through memories which could be a simulation and the mc is a creation to store a stellaron and you can go into March 7th room and see she takes photos as memories and yet can't access her own which would imply she made herself forget or had another do it, would you like to enter the forgotten hall ? Welt is from Hi3rd, the games have always been linked, characters jumping into Hi3rd lately, they're pushing the games together more it seems, they're going to drag it out over some years and maybe they will never explain any of it yet you can piece bits together that add up the rest is up to the devs.
I SWEAR, if the ending for Amphoreus is the group leaving in the Astral Express, and the Amphoreus characters ask "Who were those people again?" And go back to their lives as if the story bever happened...I'll be devastated 💔
It could be not exist but if remembrance is involved, it could be one of the revived world. There is lore mentioning remembrance used the collected memory to reconstruct fallen world.
The Flamechasers was the first ones that was fighting Honkais. I know you corrected it but i thought to share it too. As a Honkai Impact 3rd player i know the story and yes the Flameschasers was alive and happy until the Honkai creatures or sickness or whatever they called them back them had appeared. The Flameschasers had took the name thanks to Elysia, the Pink Elf, each one of them was choosed to be a team so that they can deal with Honkai while others couldnt, until they meet their doom (not gonna spoil all of it, im just saying half of their story) and the Elysian Realm was just to keep a part of their excistence so for someone that will be worthy to take their path and share their story, like Kevin in ER(Elysian Realm) had said to Raiden Mei that he dont know how the Kevin in her time will be but he for sure is different from the Kevin she sees there, which was true. Kevin was the protector of Nihility and his place was taken from Kiana and now Kevin is with his friends (yes thats was a spoiler and sorry for that). I just thought to leave it here, also make a video in case you didnt had did yet, which you explain about it. Thank you for your time :)
I watched another video that made more sense. Instead of Nanook, it's Mythus that's the third Aeon. The person theorized that Mythus tampered with Amphoreus's history in order to stop Nous's certainty (meaning his calculation that Amphoreus will be destroyed). It's a fun theory.
Remembrance: the act of remembering something. The action of remembering the dead, especially in a ceremony. A memory of recollection. Yes, Amphoreus might just be a simulation to recreate the past 😢
Probably he will get nihility with an important event in the story. Like march past, himeko may die, their travel ship may get attacked also it can be related to him stellaron core.
Amphorius is just memories of this place that existed a long time ago. There 12 Flamechasers and 12 Constellations in the sky and we probably will be the 13 cause we the hand of Elisya and with her power we "Rewrite" story so it will be a romantic story like none that has come before
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it didn't even exist? smells Nihility
@@xiaozihuaLMAOOOO
THE LORE
Well it existed in the past and th ER(Elysian Realm) was like a test to the next version of humanity to see if they could finish what they started.
"Of 13 characters, only 2 have survived" it's wrong cuz of 13 really survived Kevin, Hua and Griseo... And we could count Su (but it's complicated)... So yeah, but as much as I understand, everyone in ER died, cuz thay used safety protocol (or something like that)
*How* *amphorius *will* *end* : Trailblazer, thank you for everything you’ve done but, it’s time to take your pills, farewell
Lol 😂
Let's take ibuprofen together
@@EdogawaSakura the ibuprofen is on me, I have them free thanks to my doctor until around march 💪🏻
@harpae69 thanks!
Honkai : Schizo rail is gonna be peak🔥🔥🔥
"Himeko why don't you uh stay on the train this time"
unless their form of military officers are called valkyries i dont think she'll be in danger
@@jellybelIy previous era Himeko died so HSR Himeko has no whatsoever guarantee.
Can't wait to see how welt reacts here too.
This is how we're gonna get our imaginary himeko....
even so himeko never met the flame chasers, the only one who met flame chasers was Mei, Kiana met only Elysia, I dont know about bronya
You dont need to remind me of Elysian Realm, i miss it.
I miss them😭😭😭
Elysia my beloved
@Thosewhomeme Elysia the Lesbian Jesus
It still there is story wise
@@win-d.Not in my watch 😊
@@Kazuki.tempest12 why?
The flamechasers were real people but the people in the Elysian realms were not. They were copies of the real flame chasers in a digital realm. The only surviving flame chasers are Griseo and hua. Kevin and su were alive but they died.
Su shall forever be with us in spirit 😭🫡
Edit thanks to a reminder:
At least for now in game 😭😭😭
I was just about to comment on this myself.
All of their deaths were so sad.
THEYRE REAL TO ME 😭😭😭😭😭
How did elysia die?
@@RandomDudeThatLovesAnimesshe was kinda the representative of origin, like the being responsible for creating everything, so she is like a part of all existence now, ascension you know
Let's hope this isn't foreshadowing 😭
Fr
Probably is
Ohhh himiko. :)
Kevin's smiling. Protect that smile.
I wonder if he has a gf (DR MEI). Afterall the only reason he did all that in HI3 was because of his late gf.
I really hope so because I kinda want a playable character with an official relationship status
@Shiyuuuuu same, but I doubt they'd give us a character in a romantic relationship, if Dr MEI exists I can imagine her and Kevin having alot of "and they were roommates" vibes.
@@ShiyuuuuuSame, if not then I guess I'll just have him team up with Acheron. Close enough
@@Shiyuuuuu well mei have kiana and in the other games they aren't togheter, and this is a different universe.
@@ShiyuuuuuWith his abs? Dr. MEI has to exist.
Oh no.
*Looks at himeko*
*Never let you go intensifies*
Not to mention the amount of buffs she is getting recently i think dawai is planning something devious again 💀.
if he starts talking about how happy and uplifting amphoreus' story is, we're cooked.
@@reginameyers 🫥
Remember that every member of the express are either imaginary or have an imaginary form except himeko. Let’s see if she gets an imaginary form or becomes imaginary again
@ diabolical
Trailblazer : I WILL DECIDE HOW THIS STORY ENDS!
KR Saber ah lines
@yafito2 indeed it is you have guessed. Too bad the story was rushed or else it wouldve been good
I mean our weapon is a quill
@@anastasija6866oh damn u right
@@naufalyusri2273 eh, I argued that it's only on the first arc. The second and third are pretty good though it could be improved.
*TruE starts blasting at the climax of Amphoreus istg*
*L o u d e r*
🎶Ahhhhhh~ How I love to embrace, the future breaking out of shape, from the past, still ablaze!!!🎶
Say my name when a tree susurrates Once and again telling a story lost in time The way it starts and the way it ends Never again making up stories in dismay With several starts, but just one end Ah, how I long to embrace The future breaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Save your tears for the day so far away To irrigate the wilderness that’s still asleep In the world waiting to be lit To spread over the riverbeds, so dry and dead Let ships that ran aground re-launch their sails Ah, how I long to embrace The future breaking out of shades from the past Still ablaze Seeds bear new life when flowers dare to fade Petals linger about Awaiting one last dance Shaking off all the dust from the past New stories have yet to start
Say my name…
TIME TO BLAST TRUE
Knowing that HSR is the 4th game from the Honkai series, it's no surprise they'll make it similar to Flamechasers story. Also from the trailer, Amphoreus looks like it's shaped as the Mobius Strip. Meaning there might be a looping situation happening in the story
Genshin Jmpact was supposed to be the 4th in the series but that's still true
Never titled Honkai. The dev team of Genshin was new and werent involved in Honkai games. @@A_Group_Channel
Nah Hsr become a joke since Penacony
No hate im Trailblazer too
Since all 'dead' become alive and playable I don't think Hsr / Shaoji dare to kill any Character.
Proof getting stronger
Genshin who is 'kid game' is darker now
Just play Natlan Archon quest
@@gaminglife8103 no denying that they're getting softer for each games they make, like GGZ & Hi3rd brutality is far different. But it's still 3.0 and it's mostly about us solving problems from one world to another, so it's just best to wait
...Mobius? THAT'S WHERE SHE IS IN THE PANTHEON
A not so Small detail but it's important to note that the flame chasers were in fact real people from the previous era, they all existed and all died long before the main character of that arc (raiden mei) encountered one of them...Kevin who introduced her to the sims of said flame chasers in the elysian realm. The sims cannot leave the realm but they all were essentially the exact same people as the originals. Like a save file so to speak...they were also tangible as far we knew so they're not just projections and that's why their characters were easy to get attached to since as long as ur within the location housing the elysian realm, they're effectively as real as the originals.
Hoyo won't do that again tho cause unfortunately the new fanbase in HSR doesn't have the capacity to consume sooo much lore. So hoyo most likely won't go with a route that demands u getting attached to 13 characters only to watch most of em die twice while still being compelling and condensed.
Elysia Everlasting Emotional Damage.
It’s Hoyo
Nah amphoreus story is gonna be written by the person who wrote the HI3 story so, it's gonna be the same angst DEFINITELY, they're both honkai
@Tsuki_XY well...we're already seeing hints of it now with the powers of hindsight...still don't think he'll go all the way unless if the people somehow get attached by the end.
I could see it happening in HSR
Don't think Genshin would go that hard
Yippie, Welt's getting more trauma :D (I know nothing about HI3)
Welt had nothing to do with the Elysian Realm. But he did know of Fu Hua. Still didn't do much with her. So probably no emotional damage (this time).
At least he acknowledged what Kevin really was, a true hero... So... The only trauma so far for him is... Project Stigma and his daughter, Coralie's death that probably got resurrected, as here he is just after to protect Himeko and still holds the photo of them...
Welt didn't even care that much about bronya, so he's probably not gonna get affected by Elysium realm equivalent
Welt's gonna be fine
Us captains, however... not so much
Welt literally has never interacted with any of them beside kevin and fu hua
Technically 4 of the flame chasers survived the finality : Su, Kevin, Fu Hua and Griseo.
Su died after some time and Kevin kinda ceased to exist
@cesarguimaraes872 True. But they all survive past the finality.
@@cesarguimaraes872 spoiler:
su is still "alive"
@@cesarguimaraes872 su is still alive, he just cant physically interact with anything anymore, hes the one who helps fu hua reunite with griseo
@@kkorii5924 basically a ghost
am i the only one that has realized Amphoreus also has a TON of similarities to Teyvat??? like i feel like im the only one who realized this when the first trailer came out; they referred to having something called the Black Tide. in one of the Natlan mini quests in a document we learn that during the time of Ochkanatlan, the people referred to the Abyss as the Black Tide, so i had a feeling that wasn’t a coincidence.
and now that amphoreus is released we’ve learned that the parts where the Black Tide has consumed the world is called the ABYSS?? also the world being created by three titans, humans being created by three titans, and the downfall of the world being started by three titans is suspiciously similiar to Phanes creating the world, creating humans, and now becoming the enemy of humans while existing as three separate beings, the Three Shades of Phanes. oh yeah and of course the whole “sky being a prison” thing obviously sounding familiar to the sky being fake in genshin. oh and ofc when we encounter the Black Tide in game in looks oddly similiar to the Unkown God’s powers-
but yeah there’s a LOT more than this i could go into but i’m trying to make my own lore video as well sooo..
i will give yall my top three theories though, just to keep it interesting:
-Amphoreus is a simulated experiment
-Amphoreus is one of the previous cycles of Teyvat, otherwise known as “the third cycle, Remuria” by the notes on the sunken tower in fontaine, and the Remuria we learn about in world quests was but a small portion of what was left of Amphoreus after the end of the third cycle
-Ratio is connected to Amphoreus in some way, possibly even a Titankin considering his technique being so similar
4 Flame Chasers survived, Kevin, Fu Hua, Griseo, and Su. Kevin, however, has died as of the last chapter of part one.
Pretty sure Su died sometime before that as well
@@cesarguimaraes872we don’t really know, the last I remember him was playing chess with some god or smth
@Proxy606 wasn't he some type of ghost back then?
@@cesarguimaraes872 I don’t really know. It’s been some time since I read the manga
@@cesarguimaraes872 Well kind of? His soul got dragged into another plane of existence or something. I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s dead though.
I hope that the flame chasers will still be playable
They are
Wait. We never knew who or what Kalpas in HI3 really was. Cause he was crazy powerful and certainly not human.
If he's from HSR and somewhere in the story falls to Earth in the past that would explain a lot.
@@PJammaGod Well, people say Mydei is HSR's Kalpas and from what I've seen, they are pretty different.
A universe/planet made of past memories would go hardddd, we help change the fate in this planet but it wont change how it is on the past
This is giving me flashbacks to Hi3 when Kiana tried to change her mother's fate during Second Eruption and succeeding only to find out it was a simulation. Not long after she became Herrscher of the Void.
Like Mars in hi3
Technically 4 of the survived,
Fu Hua obviously,
Kevin (though dying during the story, is still a survivor of the Previous Era),
Griseo was later found in Cyro Sleep,
And Su while not being physically present anymore still exists.
Elysia also still exists within the core of Origin, with her sim's memories intact thanks in part to Mei's memories. Elysia is Elysia.
I know this might be late, but did anyone think during the last summer event in Genshin ( the Story Book ) that when you put the stars back in the sky. A reference to the Astral Express?
Wether the book is Alice talking about the train’s existence, or that the Train will exist.
@chrisredwolf3130 definitely a reference, but more of the fanservive type than the lore type
@@Konpekikaminariya agreed, def felt like a fan reference for fun
i love these type of videos on your channel
So, It may not exists, that's one theory. But, another theory is that Amphoreus was another planet from the same star sistem as Adlivun, so, after the ascent of Nanook, Amphoreus ended up decimated. That would also explain why the erudition and the remembrance are so interested about this world, it should not exist, but it still is there, as a memory left by the destruction.
I can’t take credit for the theory, I saw it on here somewhere, that perhaps Amphoreus was a true planet long ago, evidenced by the Trailblazer and Dan Heng realizing everyone is speaking the same language as them, so they likely intersected long ago. The Erudition is possibly present bc it was researching the fated calamity that would end the world, but instead of the world truly ending, it somehow fell into the Memory Zone, which is like the Sea of Quanta I suppose. The Imaginary Tree is the other side of the coin, and its many offshoots and branches give the physical world its shape by using the memories in the Sea as nutrients. The coreflames prophesied may actually be a stellaron or 12 stellaron fragments or something, every world so far has had a stellaron disaster. The disaster on this planet may have somehow broke the boundary and the planet sank into the Memory Zone and is no longer tangible. Hence why you’d need the Mirror of the Garden of Recollection to find it, otherwise you would just fly straight through where the planet should be. The end of the story will likely be the assembling of the 12 Coreflames and putting them in the pool of Memoria at the Vortex of Genesis and the miracle being that Amphoreus is once again granted physical form. The threat of not questioning or daring to cross beyond sky may be bc right now, there’s either nothing up there or it could somehow damage the precarious balance Amphoreus must maintain to stay existing at all. And you know damn well once we finish the story we’re gonna start having Events and side quests with Boothill, Sampo, etc traveling to Amphoreus or see the natives traveling to see Penacony/Jarilo-VI, etc.
they already did the murder mystery bit on penacony where things were like a simulation (like Elysian realm story). they wouldn't do the same thing so soon. The Hi3rd story team have said they wished they had more time to flesh out the flame chasers and with their recent interview talking about variants this was a good way to continue telling a story of known characters even if slightly different.
The 13 flame chaser arch was one of my favorite arcs in the game! ❤
0:43 bro is terrifying 😭 (Amazing animation as usual
I mean the fact they're bringing in Therta into this story, THE creator of the SIMULATED UNIVERSE is also a dead giveaway
I'm not ready for this pain, again
I have had a theory since black swan first talked about ampherous. Cause she said it can only be seen through the mirrors of the garden of recollection i assumed that's cause it died a long time ago and fuli just has a memory of it. And that's because Fuli came from ampherous but before it died (likely by the voracity when they had fighted with tazzyronth) cause fuli was said to come out of nowhere so mabye that's cause ampherous was so unknown that it seems like that
This gave me GOOSEBUMPS.... Jezus, These theories are so chilling. HSR might be one of the best story telling games ever.
Play Honkai Impact 3rd and you'll see where they got all the good bits from,It's hands down their best game when it comes to the story and the cast of characters is honestly super likable.Higly recommend giving it a try(At least the first 10 chapters)
@@epicbrofist6531 Absolutely. 3rd ran so that Star Rail could fly.
and GGZ walked so that 3rd could run.
Hoyo has a long history of emotionally impactful storytelling.
Please don’t end up being Honkai Impact 3rd, Anphoreus. And don’t make me cry 😭
Dear fellow captain... That's such a tall request to ask tbh
*Prepares lots of tissues*
I want ot cry. I want to see hte level of emotional storytelling that was able to introduce 13 characters and make me fall in love with them to the point that I still cry when I hear TruE play.
I want the GOOD pain, the result of beautiful fictions that evoke real emotion.
@Luinta if it's coming from hoyo, i think you'll get all the emotions packed in the story of these 13 people eventually
The second I realised the Flameschaser parallel, I KNEW.
Welt: Ah, sh*t. Here we go again.
*sighs* *prepares tissues*
I'm still surprised Himeko is still alive for this long. This gotta be a new world record for her bloodline
it makes sense given the meaning of the path of remembrance. also in the Livestream they showed this new mechanic where you have to rewind time because in the present all is destroyed:/
Isnt it implied that we will access it with the help of Garden of Recollection? Meaning that it will most likely be a memory?
Probably. Thats why Herta in the end said "whats your choice this time". Meaning the world is in a loop because its just a preserved memory.
Ty for all the information your giving us
this also goes straight along with the fact some stars that shine in our night sky are nothing but old light from dead stars that died long ago
I mean...the moment cocolia appeared everybody who knew her knew she would die at the end so Yea, stories repeating itself as hi3 was already checks out. But on the bright side we may get more Acheron if that's the case bc she was involved in hi3 story of ER. ........yay everyone is dead XD
AND BTW: the total of flame chasers that survived was actually 4....maybe 5 :D.
I dont remember which patch livestream it was but the writers did say Acheron will show up again. Its all a matter of when.
I hope we’ll be able to find out more about March’s past since Trailblazers going to have a Remembrance path.
This theory makes sense because Dan Heng mentioned about how they can still understand and talk with Phainon and people of Amphoreus despite it's people never knowing about the existence of other worlds or planets
And in return Phainon (cmiiw) said "Maybe we had some sort of connection to other worlds before"
My personal opinion is. This is exactly what they want us to think. They want us to be blindsided by the real twist
I think that too! They want u to think it's the same as HI3. Watch there being a plot twist. 🤣
I predict due to the mobius strip look of the planet, that there is something related to infinity or some sort of infinite loop the people are trapped in experiencing. Perhaps reliving the same events over and over but over the course of eras? Maybe our arrival will change the loop?
i have theory for the end of amphoreus arc, the way it play is the story supposed to end like elysian realm with march as the catalyst, but this time we a few anomaly that make the story branch into new end, like the arrival of astral express crew, mc as the biggest anomaly and herta also play her role
i mean if we are meant to defy fate and the script then who knows maybe we will somehow bring them back to life that would definitely be something that wasn’t in the script maybe even somehow restore the planet entirely or go back to the past to prevent it’s destruction
I think the 3rd path is the finality. Cause if Amphoreus does turn out to be gone and the trailblazers are only experiencing it through memories it would mean it no longer exists which would be linked to finality since that path is focused on the end and the prophecy of Terminus. Plus the Chrysos Heirs are following a prophecy of their own which could have been given by Terminus through titans, emenators, etc. Since ethier himeko or black swan mentioned there are strong beings connected to the three paths on Amphoreus who could be emanators. This could be a cool way to introduce the path cause not much is known about it.
Nanook probably be just watching the show with popcorn.
HI3’s legendary Elysian Realm arc never fails to bring tears to my eyes. I can’t wait for Amphoreus
OH Y GOSH AS AN OG HI3 PLAYER THE REFERENCES ARE AMAZING??
The Elysian Realm arc was so good, such lovely characters and a heartbreaking ending. Miss you Elysia ❤
U just make all of us having nostalgia again 💀
i dont want to have another "Glory to the Thirteen" moment again, goosebumps were real that time
Well that’s scary, good day
Correction: off the flame-chasers, 4 survided the past era, being them kevin, fu hua, griseo and su, the ones curently alive are hua, griseo and (debatably) su, there is room to also include mobius but that's highly unlikely at this point
i actually think mobius survived as well since she was immortal to a degree; only she knew the reach of her immortality and im sure she would want to survive to reach her infinity. she just didnt get into the cryopod stole a fragment of prometheus and disappeared from the story.
It wouldnt surprising in the least since we have Welt and other similiarites that have popped up.
Welt gonna be geekin seeing those familiar faces 😂
*Absolute Cinema Theories* ✋🤯🤚
And on one IPC radio podcast they said about The world that was destroyed but prerserved by Garden of Recolection, this way all the history and culture survived. So is possible...
The strangest thing sbout smphonious is its a mobius strip. Which is not a shape planets take.
Planets don't take that Shape? 😮
I don't sure but hear from black swan in game something like "this world lives in the memories"
And with the release of Amphoreus also comes with the Rememberance Path...
And the Rememberance's goal is to preserve memories...
The Remembrance might be running the simulation. After all, we go there at Black Swan's insistence.
Akivili: sorry, I didn't have a mirror. Uhhh...good luck with the travel
I mean, the trailblazers art shows them wielding a quill and mem holding a book, it reminds me of Princess Tutu with Drosselmeyer and Fakir being author and influencing the story
All in for Pardofelis alter 🖐🏼😉
In the universe, theres a odd occurence (i forgot how it happens) where things look like they are there but when your there they have been gone for years apon years, maybe millenias
Maybe this happens with Aphoreus, it has been hidden, this ties in with it being long destroyed, maybe while we go through the story, we see hints of it getting destroyed, and at the end the entire place and its people are revealed to be long gone
i didn't even knew there were other new characters thats like elysia or kevin (other then the old ones like otto, seele, etc)
maybe that's the reason for a Memokeeper recommending there and to end something there, nihility MC, would be funnier if it's actually heavily related to March that's why there's are leaks of her having a new form, with those 3 aeons as a clue for her past representing it, erudition, rememberance and destruction
“Himoke..stay on the damn train..”
who
@@Cyourix "Himoke"
That would explain 3 things .
1- current amphoreous has "corruption" by black oose that resembles the black blocks from GI or data , all the nymphs disappeared leaving text messages
2- they might be stuck on a loop of time and the remembrance needs to know why, that would also explain why herta is involved since she already conquered time itself
3- the shape of the planet and the theme of the MC power being time manipulation to go past and future and actually (SPOILERS ) ADJUSTING THE NIKADOR FIGHT
Remembrance?:
Dr Edward: Bro wake up, you are going too high with the memory bubble
Honestly lines up with what I’ve been thinking. Given Elysian Realm was a simulated reality, I figured that Amphoreus wasn’t real and part of the reason why Rememberance Trailblazer became a thing.
Using the power of Rememberance would allow us to interact with memories of the past, and thematically it lines up with why we interacted with the Flamechasers before, to learn from their mistakes and move forward.
And Im very excited to see Welt interact with Phainon specifically. Especially after the conversation between Welt and Acheron regarding Kevin.
I think it’s also very possible to see some crossover since Vita and Sparkle have interacted recently so there might be a bit of that coming soon
All of Amphoreus sounds really interesting imo and I’m very hyped to pull on these units too!
Not to mention Evil March 7th when she remembers everything.
I think the 4 who full on worships the aeon of destruction may finally make an appearance one way or another.
I think instead of the destruction it is the enigmata. But that's just my opinion.
Lemme Explain:
( LORE DUMP)
If Amphoreus has been destroyed, then I think with the power of the enigmata created an illusion of a planet. My theory is that none of these people actually exist so instead of Flamechasers they are all History Fictionologists. Except the two survivors you mentioned. The last thing you said made it make sense perfectly. Instead of the Elysian Realm, it is Amphoreus which is just a creation of Mythus the Enigmata and the characters don't exist anywhere else. Like their glued to Amphoreus. The remembrance part of Amphoreus might correspond with keeping the history of Amphoreus.Then the Erudition will hide the forbidden knowledge of Amphoreus.The Enigmata and the Remembrance collab would make things so cool. Lemme know what you think.
Trailblazer after receving the power of Remembarance:
*With sheer Will and this handy Quill*
*I will be the one to bring an end to this story*
let’s hope himiko stays on the train.. if it’s anything like hi3 we need her on that train-
With her curiosity to explore and that amphoreus was a planet even akivili didnt know i doubt she'll stay on the train
For the heirs
The fuhua one is dark march 7th
The kalpas one is danheng (similar to him or his new variation)
Himeko... you better stay on.. the damn train
I don't care if we are in trouble or not, STAY. ON. THE. TRAIN.
Well penacony was a story of the past that was changed by black swan and the story had a different ending, so hsr is already stories told from the past because the memokeepers are keepers of memories and are from outside of that reality and have the power to change reality through memories which could be a simulation and the mc is a creation to store a stellaron and you can go into March 7th room and see she takes photos as memories and yet can't access her own which would imply she made herself forget or had another do it, would you like to enter the forgotten hall ? Welt is from Hi3rd, the games have always been linked, characters jumping into Hi3rd lately, they're pushing the games together more it seems, they're going to drag it out over some years and maybe they will never explain any of it yet you can piece bits together that add up the rest is up to the devs.
I SWEAR, if the ending for Amphoreus is the group leaving in the Astral Express, and the Amphoreus characters ask "Who were those people again?"
And go back to their lives as if the story bever happened...I'll be devastated 💔
It would also mean we would also be traveling amphoreus through someone's memory.
A survivor who saw how Amphoreus ended
Amphoreus was the friends we made along the way
I pray for the day my boy Kosma get to live a happy life with Griseo and Dystopia
Say my name, when a tree susurrates
It could be not exist but if remembrance is involved, it could be one of the revived world. There is lore mentioning remembrance used the collected memory to reconstruct fallen world.
I tought getting the remembrance as a new path was clue enough
The Flamechasers was the first ones that was fighting Honkais. I know you corrected it but i thought to share it too. As a Honkai Impact 3rd player i know the story and yes the Flameschasers was alive and happy until the Honkai creatures or sickness or whatever they called them back them had appeared. The Flameschasers had took the name thanks to Elysia, the Pink Elf, each one of them was choosed to be a team so that they can deal with Honkai while others couldnt, until they meet their doom (not gonna spoil all of it, im just saying half of their story) and the Elysian Realm was just to keep a part of their excistence so for someone that will be worthy to take their path and share their story, like Kevin in ER(Elysian Realm) had said to Raiden Mei that he dont know how the Kevin in her time will be but he for sure is different from the Kevin she sees there, which was true. Kevin was the protector of Nihility and his place was taken from Kiana and now Kevin is with his friends (yes thats was a spoiler and sorry for that). I just thought to leave it here, also make a video in case you didnt had did yet, which you explain about it. Thank you for your time :)
i wonder how Welt deal with this and kmagine if he just recall this and start explaining wht happened on the Hi3rd
Welt was not involved in the event of Elysian Realm.
@@NeeonN25 yeah but mei probably told him about it at some point
I legit forgot Griseo exist when trying to remember the second FC aside from Hua
Phainon be like: *"Why do birds fly?"*
In HI3rd it wasnt a plot that Elysium was nothing but a illusion, it was mentioned from the start that this space was created from memories
I watched another video that made more sense. Instead of Nanook, it's Mythus that's the third Aeon. The person theorized that Mythus tampered with Amphoreus's history in order to stop Nous's certainty (meaning his calculation that Amphoreus will be destroyed). It's a fun theory.
Remembrance: the act of remembering something. The action of remembering the dead, especially in a ceremony. A memory of recollection.
Yes, Amphoreus might just be a simulation to recreate the past 😢
Speaking of darkness, on a slightly off note, this makes me wonder how the trailblazer will get the path of nihility.
mc might have to go through a depresso emo arc, and end up just before ix (like aventurine and acheron did)
Probably he will get nihility with an important event in the story. Like march past, himeko may die, their travel ship may get attacked also it can be related to him stellaron core.
Amphorius is just memories of this place that existed a long time ago. There 12 Flamechasers and 12 Constellations in the sky and we probably will be the 13 cause we the hand of Elisya and with her power we "Rewrite" story so it will be a romantic story like none that has come before
I have a feeling the story might also involve hi3’s Phosphorus likely mixed in with the Flamechasers.
I hope they will be happy this time I don't wanna cry cuz of them again T^T
a destroyed placr (destruction) living on by memories of it (remembrance) is relevant/ can be heard by its knowledge (erudition)
Of this little theory is true, then we will be exploring a giant memory.