This T28 is the best flyer among a bunch of T28s available. The one from banana hobby flies like 💩, not to mention the terrible servo and foam quality. 1.1m from eflite flies like a toy. The 1.2m version of eflite flies great, but isn't as scale as this 1.4m. It's a shame that Eflite doesn't even have shock-absorbing landing gears and speed brake for the 2.0m T28.
I had a V1 when they first came out. Was one of my favorites until I lost it due to an aileron hinge failure....altho I didn't know that's what the cause was at the time. I had thought the detached aileron was result from crash not the cause. Until last year when I pulled the dusty carcass out of the corner of my basement to rob the retracts from it for another project. After looking over the wreckage and doing further searching online i put the cause together. I have since obtained a V4 red/white version (best color scheme IMO) and first thing I did was replace all the foam hinges with Robart hinge points. I really love flying this plane. You can do touch and goes all day long. Plus it takes big 6s batteries and doesn't mind the weight....it gives you 20+ minute flight times easy. Really though, all T-28's are great flyers from the tiny 400mm ones all the way up to the latest 2m one from eFlite. Though I have the say the FMS 1500mm version holds a special place for me.
Everything 1200mm or bigger should have hinges! From factory. BUT, fms has upgraded all their branded, standard, 1.2m+ servos (for 2023) to metal gear digital servos. Bout time!
Great video, and I always appreciate your reviews! I recently bought the Red/White V4 version and am about to take it on its maiden flight. However, I'm concerned about the front gear because it doesn't turn nearly as well as yours did in the video. Since my runway is tight, having good steering on the ground is crucial. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated!
It would be interesting to see your comparison to the much bigger, much more expensive and newly released Carbon Z T28 from Eflite. I know that they are in a completely different size category, but man that huge Eflite bird looks good, and you might as well go big unless transportation or cost is an issue.
The biggest issue with the 2m T-28 is that we're running out of space to store aircraft, but we might be able to find a creative storage solution for it.
I have the V4 version, the manual shows the CG is 80 - 85mm from the leading edge of the wing. If you have a CG balance machine like the EZ BALANCER or the Xicoy digital balance CG meter. They both show that the plane is so nose-heavy, that it needs a ton of weight as far back by the end tail to get the range they show in the manual. I am using a 4S 3200mah and it's installed as far back as possible. So I was wondering what you did for the CG as recommended by the manual?
I will have to get back with you. I did relocate the gyro in front of the battery some it made more room to push the battery back more. Maybe 3 or four days I will be able to get back on the Yellow Bird. It’s only the fourth delta wing plane that I have own in some fifty years.
Any FMS plane which has foam hinges (especially the elevator!!!) needs immediate modification. DONT fly any of their planes until you replace junk hinges with DuBro pinned hinges. Other than that FMS makes awesome planes !
Anybody that thinks that model is under powered is out of their mind for the size of the plane its quite fast makes the eflite 2.0 carbon z T-28 look like a snail side by side comparison
It's a 1400mm Trojan. Not necessarily mini. That would be the 850mm model that FMS makes. This aircraft has been around for years as it's on version 4 now.
Thanks to this video I pulled the trigger and got one, love it! I've got about 9 planes in the hanger and it's my go to at the field. Just a joy to fly.
I've had one previously (red/white) and loved it. Stupidly sold it after I got an E-Flite CZ 2m Trojan which is good but needed many mods to make it great but that's another story. Back to this FMS T-28.. Have to agree with the comments and scoring of this FMS version, its a fantastic little plane which is easy and compliant. Complaints are the wheels are terrible and definitely need replacing, the main struts can be easily damaged if you are not careful when landing, would be nice to see proper full metal struts all round. I absolutely love the full set of gear doors but they can be fiddly especially the nose gear doors and the rear door sections that hang lower on the main struts can be easily torn off on hard landings or taller grass / rougher surfaces. I did have the stock ESC fail which was disappointing but luckily it decided to blow up after I had already touched down so I didn't lose the plane to a crash. I thought it really came alive on 6S and with a little canopy modification you can fit larger 6S batteries in it for extended flights. It definitely flew well on 4S but 3S it felt lethargic and you would need to avoid more windy conditions. I did replace most of the foam hinges with mechanical ones which eliminated the hinge breakage concern and I would highly recommend anyone with this plane do the same. I never did get round to replacing the rock hard wheels with softer items but if I was to get another I would definitely be doing that upgrade. I did however replace the nose strut with the strut from a Freewing T-33 Shooting Star which helps greatly! Another piece of advise is avoid flying from wet surfaces like dewy morning grass as the struts will quickly start to stuff out, and I would also spray a little lubricant / water dispersant spray in the struts themselves as they too tend to quickly fill up with dirt. Also spray the wheel hubs as I had my nose wheel seize as the axle started to rust. I wish FMS would upscale this plane to the next size, perhaps 1700 or 1800mm wingspan and I would absolutely buy it! Please please please FMS! Make a larger Trojan! I have no doubts it would be easily superior to the E-Flite CZ Trojan.
Do you have the Eflight version of the 1400mm Trojan T28 too…? I crashed my Eflight version and I can’t get parts. Wondering is the landing gear is similar…?
I'm not having any luck with mine, front leg is rubbish on grass and has now been permanently fixed down. Suspension is far too stiff. Flap hinges have given way. Had to add 40g weight to tail. Bizarrely it drags its tail in turns and needs rudder to tidy. Flies like a power hungry brick that's scared of heights. Looks great. Can't believe you recommend this for beginners
We're pretty sure that we mentioned there would be issues flying it off grass due to the design of the landing gear doors, but "grass" is not an all-encompassing term. There is grass that's almost as good as pavement, and there's "grass" that's more like the surface of the Moon with plants growing out of it. If you're not flying off grass fields that are rolled and kept for runway purposes, chances are you'll have issues with most planes you fly. Many aircraft require rudder to coordinate a turn. You're describing adverse yaw. Using rudder is always recommended when turning as it keeps the nose pointed into the turn and prevents it from slipping out. If it flies poorly for you, our guess is that you're using old batteries or batteries that aren't up to the task. Or you're flying on 3 cells instead of 4. We recommend this plane for beginners because it's not hard to fly, has plenty of power, and has gentle stall characteristics. It's a warbird for beginners.
I'm curious, with these "stock" aileron and elevator servos why do you go past the range of these stock servos by setting the travel to 150%? Isn't this past the range of most of these stock servos that typically reach their limit at 100%?
Most servos can travel to 150%, which is their full resolution. It's exceedingly rare when servos can't pulse to 150%. The only time we've seen this is with the E-flite Beechcraft D18 servos which can only travel to 100%.
@@TwoBrosRC So do you suggest always setting the travel "by default" to 150%? I'm just worried that it may grind the gears overreaching on the servo, because as you adjust it in real-time, I can see and hear it reach its limit before 150%.
@@TwoBrosRC One reason I ask, the servos in my Commander and T-28 are the most basic, when I set servo throw past about 120% the gears start to chatter, and I fear it will strip or severely shorten its shelf life .
Good day. Thanks for all the videos, it's great to see how pro pilots; like you, for those of us who are starting in the sport, I was looking at the video with the T-28 trojan 1400 v4 that you are flying and describe the plane I really like (t-28 1400 v4) I was on the internet looking at reviews about this airplane, and unfortunately many people are talking about the fact that the landing gear is poor, I had thought of buying a plane like this, it is safe to buy these planes do you know if these bugs that people are talking about recently have been updated and fixed. Regards Peter Iceland
Hi and thanks for the quick and good answers, (ha ha not an offroad jeep) yes I realized that some people are not landing on smooth tracks, that's why I wanted to hear from a pro pilot who could give reasonable answers this answer gives me reason to buy such a plane. Best regards Peter
Just be careful with it and practice landings until you're touching down gently most of the time, instead of dropping it hard like a meteor. It should hold up well.
Right now it's winter in Iceland and it's good to collect all kinds of beautiful planes and get them ready, I have a few planes and will only fly and practice on the Kingfisher 1400 until takeoffs and landings are very good. p.s. I enjoy collecting various machines, even though I know I won't fly them right away. Jon thanks for the great and quick replies. Peter
This T28 is the best flyer among a bunch of T28s available. The one from banana hobby flies like 💩, not to mention the terrible servo and foam quality. 1.1m from eflite flies like a toy. The 1.2m version of eflite flies great, but isn't as scale as this 1.4m. It's a shame that Eflite doesn't even have shock-absorbing landing gears and speed brake for the 2.0m T28.
It's definitely a good middle of the road model. Not as big or hard to store as the 2m version, better flight characteristics than the smaller T-28s.
I had a V1 when they first came out. Was one of my favorites until I lost it due to an aileron hinge failure....altho I didn't know that's what the cause was at the time. I had thought the detached aileron was result from crash not the cause. Until last year when I pulled the dusty carcass out of the corner of my basement to rob the retracts from it for another project. After looking over the wreckage and doing further searching online i put the cause together.
I have since obtained a V4 red/white version (best color scheme IMO) and first thing I did was replace all the foam hinges with Robart hinge points. I really love flying this plane. You can do touch and goes all day long. Plus it takes big 6s batteries and doesn't mind the weight....it gives you 20+ minute flight times easy.
Really though, all T-28's are great flyers from the tiny 400mm ones all the way up to the latest 2m one from eFlite. Though I have the say the FMS 1500mm version holds a special place for me.
Hi, I just pick up one of these and trying to figure out which battery to get. Can you please help with what 6S you chose?
Everything 1200mm or bigger should have hinges! From factory. BUT, fms has upgraded all their branded, standard, 1.2m+ servos (for 2023) to metal gear digital servos. Bout time!
& ALL 3d anything should have pinned hinges!
I have the red version.
Great video, and I always appreciate your reviews! I recently bought the Red/White V4 version and am about to take it on its maiden flight. However, I'm concerned about the front gear because it doesn't turn nearly as well as yours did in the video. Since my runway is tight, having good steering on the ground is crucial. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated!
Join up on our Discord server via bit.ly/TBRCDiscord and ask in the #tech-and-setup channel for assistance!
Great review, one of these days I'll get one.
It would be interesting to see your comparison to the much bigger, much more expensive and newly released Carbon Z T28 from Eflite. I know that they are in a completely different size category, but man that huge Eflite bird looks good, and you might as well go big unless transportation or cost is an issue.
The biggest issue with the 2m T-28 is that we're running out of space to store aircraft, but we might be able to find a creative storage solution for it.
@@TwoBrosRC
Yard sale at Jon's!😁
I fly mine with the 4400 SMC pack. No problem with the extra weight.
How much flight time?
Great review. Love the buttery landings🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have the V4 version, the manual shows the CG is 80 - 85mm from the leading edge of the wing. If you have a CG balance machine like the EZ BALANCER or the Xicoy digital balance CG meter. They both show that the plane is so nose-heavy, that it needs a ton of weight as far back by the end tail to get the range they show in the manual. I am using a 4S 3200mah and it's installed as far back as possible. So I was wondering what you did for the CG as recommended by the manual?
We simply used a light 3600 SMC HV pack to get the balance we were looking for.
I will have to get back with you. I did relocate the gyro in front of the battery some it made more room to push the battery back more. Maybe 3 or four days I will be able to get back on the Yellow Bird. It’s only the fourth delta wing plane that I have own in some fifty years.
Do you think I could land and take off grass fields?
With this model? Absolutely!
Just don't 'bounce' the landing in bumpy grass.
Any FMS plane which has foam hinges (especially the elevator!!!) needs immediate modification. DONT fly any of their planes until you replace junk hinges with DuBro pinned hinges. Other than that FMS makes awesome planes !
We can't say we've had that experience or share that sentiment. The foam hinges that FMS uses hold up well. They just don't take impacts.
@@TwoBrosRC maybe you cant say it but I can. DONT fly FMS planes until you replace at least the elevator hinges or you will be sorry.
Nice review !!! I want one now 😂😂😂😂
You know who to ask. ;)
@@TwoBrosRC already done (5min ago 😂)
we have 2 of the real thing here in windsor ontario.
It look like they ended up painting it, with mustard.
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Anybody that thinks that model is under powered is out of their mind for the size of the plane its quite fast makes the eflite 2.0 carbon z T-28 look like a snail side by side comparison
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So ots a mini carbon z Trojan? Did I just miss the release of this or something cuz I only notice it as soon as the 2m elite cz Trojan came out
It's a 1400mm Trojan. Not necessarily mini. That would be the 850mm model that FMS makes. This aircraft has been around for years as it's on version 4 now.
Would you be able to tell me what the flap settings were for takeoff and landing flaps. Thank you
Nope, sorry! We don't own this plane anymore.
just got one flew it few times , very nice watching you fly it ,,,,,also educational thanks
Thanks to this video I pulled the trigger and got one, love it! I've got about 9 planes in the hanger and it's my go to at the field. Just a joy to fly.
I've had one previously (red/white) and loved it. Stupidly sold it after I got an E-Flite CZ 2m Trojan which is good but needed many mods to make it great but that's another story. Back to this FMS T-28.. Have to agree with the comments and scoring of this FMS version, its a fantastic little plane which is easy and compliant. Complaints are the wheels are terrible and definitely need replacing, the main struts can be easily damaged if you are not careful when landing, would be nice to see proper full metal struts all round. I absolutely love the full set of gear doors but they can be fiddly especially the nose gear doors and the rear door sections that hang lower on the main struts can be easily torn off on hard landings or taller grass / rougher surfaces. I did have the stock ESC fail which was disappointing but luckily it decided to blow up after I had already touched down so I didn't lose the plane to a crash.
I thought it really came alive on 6S and with a little canopy modification you can fit larger 6S batteries in it for extended flights.
It definitely flew well on 4S but 3S it felt lethargic and you would need to avoid more windy conditions. I did replace most of the foam hinges with mechanical ones which eliminated the hinge breakage concern and I would highly recommend anyone with this plane do the same.
I never did get round to replacing the rock hard wheels with softer items but if I was to get another I would definitely be doing that upgrade.
I did however replace the nose strut with the strut from a Freewing T-33 Shooting Star which helps greatly! Another piece of advise is avoid flying from wet surfaces like dewy morning grass as the struts will quickly start to stuff out, and I would also spray a little lubricant / water dispersant spray in the struts themselves as they too tend to quickly fill up with dirt. Also spray the wheel hubs as I had my nose wheel seize as the axle started to rust.
I wish FMS would upscale this plane to the next size, perhaps 1700 or 1800mm wingspan and I would absolutely buy it! Please please please FMS! Make a larger Trojan! I have no doubts it would be easily superior to the E-Flite CZ Trojan.
Do you have the Eflight version of the 1400mm Trojan T28 too…? I crashed my Eflight version and I can’t get parts. Wondering is the landing gear is similar…?
Nope.
I'm not having any luck with mine, front leg is rubbish on grass and has now been permanently fixed down. Suspension is far too stiff. Flap hinges have given way. Had to add 40g weight to tail. Bizarrely it drags its tail in turns and needs rudder to tidy. Flies like a power hungry brick that's scared of heights. Looks great. Can't believe you recommend this for beginners
We're pretty sure that we mentioned there would be issues flying it off grass due to the design of the landing gear doors, but "grass" is not an all-encompassing term. There is grass that's almost as good as pavement, and there's "grass" that's more like the surface of the Moon with plants growing out of it. If you're not flying off grass fields that are rolled and kept for runway purposes, chances are you'll have issues with most planes you fly.
Many aircraft require rudder to coordinate a turn. You're describing adverse yaw. Using rudder is always recommended when turning as it keeps the nose pointed into the turn and prevents it from slipping out.
If it flies poorly for you, our guess is that you're using old batteries or batteries that aren't up to the task. Or you're flying on 3 cells instead of 4.
We recommend this plane for beginners because it's not hard to fly, has plenty of power, and has gentle stall characteristics. It's a warbird for beginners.
I'm curious, with these "stock" aileron and elevator servos why do you go past the range of these stock servos by setting the travel to 150%? Isn't this past the range of most of these stock servos that typically reach their limit at 100%?
Most servos can travel to 150%, which is their full resolution. It's exceedingly rare when servos can't pulse to 150%. The only time we've seen this is with the E-flite Beechcraft D18 servos which can only travel to 100%.
@@TwoBrosRC So do you suggest always setting the travel "by default" to 150%? I'm just worried that it may grind the gears overreaching on the servo, because as you adjust it in real-time, I can see and hear it reach its limit before 150%.
@@davidgerlach1132 Run 150% but limit the throw with the pushrod placement so the servo doesn't bind.
@@TwoBrosRC One reason I ask, the servos in my Commander and T-28 are the most basic, when I set servo throw past about 120% the gears start to chatter, and I fear it will strip or severely shorten its shelf life .
@@davidgerlach1132 Nah you'll be fine.
Great presentation. What are your preferences between this & the e-flite 1.2 bnf?
Regards 🇺🇸🇦🇺
This one, only because we've never flown the E-flite variant.
G’day 1 Brother, many thanks for your reply. I appreciate it👍
I wonder if it’s just as powerful as the e flite t28 1.2m?
Just about, yep!
Can you tell me you're flap settings? Mine balloons quite a bit. Both landing and take off please.
Thank you
We can't since we don't own this plane anymore. Try lowering the settings you're using until it stops ballooning, or adjust the pitch compensation.
Thank you for getting back, will do.
Good day. Thanks for all the videos, it's great to see how pro pilots; like you, for those of us who are starting in the sport,
I was looking at the video with the T-28 trojan 1400 v4 that you are flying and describe the plane I really like (t-28 1400 v4) I was on the internet looking at reviews about this airplane, and unfortunately many people are talking about the fact that the landing gear is poor,
I had thought of buying a plane like this,
it is safe to buy these planes
do you know if these bugs that people are talking about recently have been updated and fixed.
Regards
Peter
Iceland
The gear are fine if you're not landing it with an approach like a meteor. It's an airplane, after all, not a monster truck.
Hi and thanks for the quick and good answers, (ha ha not an offroad jeep) yes I realized that some people are not landing on smooth tracks, that's why I wanted to hear from a pro pilot who could give reasonable answers
this answer gives me reason to buy such a plane.
Best regards
Peter
Just be careful with it and practice landings until you're touching down gently most of the time, instead of dropping it hard like a meteor. It should hold up well.
Right now it's winter in Iceland and it's good to collect all kinds of beautiful planes and get them ready, I have a few planes and will only fly and practice on the Kingfisher 1400 until takeoffs and landings are very good.
p.s. I enjoy collecting various machines, even though I know I won't fly them right away.
Jon thanks for the great and quick replies.
Peter
The gear is to noisy sounds like junk
Cheers, thanks.
Love the plastic wheels. 😂
Love is a strong word to use here lol