What Christian Nielsen Did Was Absolutely Unthinkable [Maine True Crime]
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- What Christian Nielsen Did Was Absolutely Unthinkable [Maine True Crime]
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Newry is a small skiing village in Western Maine with a population of less than 500 people. What happened here at the The Black Bear Bed and Breakfast in September of 2006 would have been heinous in any part of the world, but here nobody could have even imagined it to be possible.
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His parents' seemingly unsurprised response to discovering that he had murdered several people, cut them up, and covered them with a tarp speaks volumes about his psych history. His parents didn't seem at all shocked by the killings.
I'm curious if he was found killing animals growing up. I could give the parents the benefit of the doubt for still being in shock, but it does make me wonder
When his dad apologized for his sons actions, but then made sure to turn to his son and tell him how much he loves him. I can’t imagine how angry and disappointed I would be in my child for committing these disgusting and senseless murders. You’re right, his dad doesn’t seem at all surprised by his sons actions.
@@01SaltyWitch I think it came from a place of caring for his kid unconditionally, but also feeling shame and the need to take responsibility for his actions. One of our Patrons knows his dad personally. He was a teacher for years over at Dirigo High School - same with his stepmother. He's apparently a really good guy. ♡ Yergy
@@TheMiseryMachine he was my teacher for three years. One of the nicest people ive ever met. Easily my favorite English teacher. He would snort every time he laughed. I felt so bad for him. I still remember the assembly in the gym when they said he wouldn’t be back. Broke my heart.
@@TheMiseryMachine I know I'm late to this party but I think parents who are also teachers have this other way of looking at things when it comes to children. My mom was a teacher and every year she had at least two children in her class that were uncared for in some way and she was super hurt by it and she would be a little more empathetic and compassionate when they acted out, compared to other teachers who acted mostly annoyed. When my siblings and I acted up she was super mild in her approach with discipline, but she would beat herself up because she felt like she missed a step somewhere in parenting. I think the father might feel some of that. He has seen children come and go and I bet some that were mentally/physically/ s*xually and spiritually abused. At his very core as much as unconditional his love for his son is he can't bring himself to disown or stop loving him because he is feeling like it's his bad parenting. Showing that same empathy and patience for the disruptive kids in his classroom. I have to hand it to him though being able to be at the crime scene and remain calm, level headed and non judgmental. I'm sure what he saw will never leave him. I'm a new sub BTW and I am hooked! Keep up the great content!
Narrator: Things like that don't happen here in Maine.
Steven King: Hold my beer.
😂😂😂
This aged poorly, huh?
I went to High School with Christian. He was weird but I am too, and most teenagers were as well. His dad was my English teacher for a year, and his dad was always really nice. Goes to show you that you never really know who is capable of this sort of thing.
Anyone is capable , you need to want to.
Weird or not anyone is capable of hiding such dark twisted psychopathic tendencies
@@lilmisspsychopathic6802 Sorry but your statement is false. Not “*anyone*” is capable. And the last part makes no sense at all.
@@LFNikita anyone is capable. If your a human being , you are capable. And if you don't know what the last part said your an idiot who can't read. Not my problem karren . It's my opinion, do with it as you please. Dumb ass
Oh it makes sense. They are making a sick f****** statement. Read her name
Christian was a student or apprentice to my culinary teacher . When Christian was arrested , he told us all about him and how off her was . My teacher would say Christian would purposely mix bleach and ammonia together in the kitchen. My teacher was real close with him and he told me he was a good guy , but he always said something just wasn't right with him and he felt like he had to keep his guard up in around him with out people in the room and by himself. I've stumbled upon this podcast and when I heard the name Christian my eyes got wide and I was sent back to that very day my teacher was telling me about Christian. I lived in Maine for 10 years and I've had some crazy run in with people there . One guy chased me in his car when I was walking home from work at night. He offers me a ride and I didn't want the ride and as I walked away he chased me in his car. I hid in a gully of muddy water watching him go back n fourth in his car , yelling out to me to come out .....and saying I can smell you. I'll never forget those big hands of that person. That was the only thing I saw. Years later after I moved away out of state , boys around late teens to early 20's were going missing in that area I lived in and sruuoinding areas.
I’ve heard that Maine is a hotspot for sex trafficking and child abduction.
Where did boys go missing?
I went through the same experience with my friend. Managed to get out of the car with a kids knife at the back of his neck to let us out. He stopped to let us out. We ran to the woods
He drove back and forth looking for us while we hid in a ditch with freezing water.
Jesus, that sounds terrifying. I'm glad you got out of the situation okay.
My dad was the cop on the left escorting him out of the building and transported him, he said that he was silent the whole ride besides saying “a grilled ham a cheese would be nice”. We used to drive past the bed and breakfast all the time and he told me the story.
Have you ever heard of human meat in a hamburger 🍔?
So many times I’ve heard “so and so lost their life”. Thank you for specifying Julie’s life was stolen from her.
You're welcome, and thank you for highlighting that. To me, this is a clear distinction that needs to be addressed that the victims lives were stolen from them, and I want to see that changed in true crime content that doesn't really stress the seriousness of it all. ❤️
@@TheMiseryMachine never really thought about that before but it's 100% true. They didn't 'lose' anything. It was taken away. 😔
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY. Well said 🖤👏🏽
@@Therealslumgravey So if I lose my phone it’s the same if some random dude pulled a gun on me and stole it? That’s analysis paralysis.
I agree with you, but it's worse when they say someone "passed" when they were murdered. It's like nails on a chalkboard.
I met Julie a week before she was killed. I was a pest control man at the time and was doing a routine service for the Black Bear Inn. She was a really nice lady and we both grew up in the same area in California, her in San Francisco and me Mill Valley. We must have talked for nearly an hour. She said she was moving to New York with her daughter soon and was really excited about it. She mentioned to me that there was a man staying there that would smack her on the ass while she was cooking and grew very uncomfortable about it. She asked him to leave after he had done this several times but refused. Julie also told me she was going to report him to the police and perhaps she told him this and that was possibly the motive for him killing her and others. I'm assuming Julie told James and Selby what was going on so they all had information to share with authorities. Perhaps I'm the only one alive that knows that detail about him being sexually harassing besides Christian...until now. What happened still haunts me to this day.
I hope you have told the authorities about this information. It might not seem like much but it could help the investigators immensely.
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Thanks for sharing that outside perspective! It probably feels weird to do it, though if the right people hear that, it could make a big difference for future potential victims--whether he were the potential perpetrator or not.
I appreciate the dude knew him from prison but "they looked down their noses at him" or "treated him badly" or "not having the best childhood" is no justification for anything close to this. He's had years to tell people why. I'm sure he can be a normal dude, but it's safe to say you haven't seen his dark side. And his dark side is WAY DARK. And him being normal during a cribbage game doesn't mean he isn't psychotic or have psychotic tendencies at the least. Most people don't "snap" and kill multiple people and their dogs.....
There is no excuse for murder - let alone this demonic act - NOTHING from the past can excuse taking another human life
@@freedomfighter6838 There are plenty excuses for murder if you don't live in a disney movie. Just not ones you agree with.
@@freedomfighter6838 There are *some* valid excuses for murder. "For the fun of it" or "Cuz I felt like it" certainly don't fall into the valid category however.
Let's not forget he hacked ppl up with a chainsaw and axe. Pure psycho!
What was tying him to living with them if they treated him to so poorly to? He could have left at any time, instead of murdering people. Some people come up with any reason to justify this shit and it's horrific
I was serving a 6 months jail sentence in Oxford County Jail when Neilson came through. It was crazy he was given his own block, while other inmates slept on the floor of the other overcrowded blocks. I saw Neilson everyday as I worked kitchen and delivered his meals, he was entirely insane. He didn't speak for the first few months he was in custody, not a single word to anyone not even his lawyer. I grew up in Bethel about five miles from the Black Bear Inn. This was the biggest news story Bethel had ever seen I think. It was nuts.
Oh and I worked at the Suds Pub last summer. Alot of people say that Jimmy's spirit haunts the trails in Upton. Reported sightings of his ghost and all. Creepy stuff.
If you all just made good decisions you wouldn't have to get punishment 😉
I'm glad your out hun and hope your doing better within yourself and in life 🙏😊 ignore the silly comments not every1 lives specific situations nor understands what drives or assists or leads people to have to fell like they need to or chose to break the law and get time inside of course there's those who also don't give AF aswel,, but I get it, I'm Shay😊female 34 in Australia and I understand lived life like this for a time too, anyway hope your doing great and turned your life around here if U wanna chat 😊
@@lilmisspsychopathic6802also ya YT names ridiculous 💀😂 especially with your I'm perfect and self-righteous comments crap😂 just keep ya unknowing reasons as to what happens in people's lives and judgement to yaself and concentrate in ya own life aye ❤😉👍
Currently on vacation here in Newry and just heard about this case last night. We are staying 5 minutes from the bed and breakfast this happened at. Being the true crime junkie I am I had to look for a podcast on this case. Thanks for your coverage.
What’s the name of the b&b you stayed at? I’m in LA and will be visiting that area next year, trying to do my research since I know nothing about the area! Thanks and sorry for the off topic question!
My boyfriend of 27 years was in Oxford County jail on driving charges and while he was there Christian was also there. My boyfriend went to school with him at Telstar High School so he knew him, and had mentioned while in high school he was a quiet boy pretty and pretty much kept to himself.While in Oxford County my boyfriend had heard about the horrendous murders and decided to sit down with Christian while eating lunch ( This was when he first got there so he was eating at this point) and asked him all kind of questions which Christian answered alot of them by saying " I don't know why",But one of the questions that he did answer will haunt me forever when asked "what did you do to Jimmy"? While giving a side grin he replied " Jimmy, well there's nothing left of jimmy".Another question that was asked and sticks in my mind is when asked why did you kill the dogs? His reply was " But I had to kill the dogs because of their barking, and I didn't want them running out by the road with fingers in their mouths.Theres questions that my boyfriend shared his responses with me but I won't share due to respect for the family members of the deceased!! This man is very sick and twisted and I have absolutely no doubt that there's a spot in helll with his name written all over it!!
Be quiet! You should have not said nothing at all then! What was the point in saying that but not continuing the story “ dUe tO ThE rEsPeCt oF FaMiLy mEmBeRs”! 🤡
"Didn't want dogs running down the street with fingers in their mouths" Lmaooo dude had a good sense of humor at least.
@@italkalotofshit that's nice of you to sign your comment with a self-portrait but it's not needed bruh. 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting. A thrill killer is one of the most terrifying types of murderers. Hope he stays locked up for life.
this is going to sound really weird but im glad you told us, because to me its gives a whole different side to him. it humanizes him. because at the end of the day he was a child, some ones son, uncle, nephew, brother etc. and so what happened? not just him, but all those who do horrendous things. i think that could of been any of our relations. some are born wired wrong, but some come into contact with adults who do horrendous things to them.
I love that your uploads are a little later. I have a hard time sleeping and your uploads keep me company while I am up most of the night. Haven't caught an upload I didn't like.
Thank you so much for listening ♡ I do hope that you get good sleep soon, though!
Call me ! Lol. I often don't sleep at night either. 😊
I’m up all night too. My worst vice 😏
Ditto on that big time...unfortunately i have insomnia so sleeping has been very difficult for years so i enjoy listening to late new uploads,i appreciate it,and thank you for all the hard work you put into making great content for us to watch and listen to! 👍🏻👏🏻🤗
You can just wait and watch them later
It's not a law that you watch the instant it's released
Great episode. I find the end really interesting. I don't understand why the person who said they did time with him was so determined to downplay the horrific things done and only wanted to focus on what he thought of the murderers character. I'm sorry you don't get to use "someone was mean to me or didn't treat me well" as an excuse for killing another person.
I bet he had his cell mate fooled. Physchopaths can be very charming. Based on the different stories he had already told, I doubt that he was honest about why/what he did.
@@Empath79 'Physchopaths can be very charming.' I see you've met my ex-husband.
He didn't downplay what he did. All he did was talk about how he felt about Christian's personality when he knew him. And what he was told by Christian about why Christian did what he did. That's all he said. He repeated what Christian told him. And he said that Christian was nice to HIM. That's it.
You guys are soo captivating in delivery of these cases. You're really enjoyable and I am never bored with the cases you study and present. I don't ever really comment on the podcasts of other true crime channels, but I felt compelled to express how much others and myself find you to be addictive. I'm hooked
WTH is wrong with people⁉️ He’s not crazy…he’s just plain EVIL‼️
The person that allegedly served time with Nielsen sounds as though he may be describing his own feelings of being either mistreated or how he thought he was mistreated. 🤨
Everyone is harmless, until they are not.
If you have to ask a person if they killed your family, maybe you shouldn’t be hanging around said person.🤨
dont victim blame wtf
It's a lot more complicated than that...but...I can't say it's wrong.
@@SeeMeRolling How do you function day to day? So the mere suggestion of using caution is victim blaming to you? Well then this is going to shatter your fragile mind, but the decisions you make are your responsibility in life. Sorry to be so cruel as to suggest you should activate your critical thinking and make the best choices you can, but I guess I'm just a real jerk like that.
@@tylerskiss Rollings done the second the zombie apocalypse starts.
Do zombies observe "safe spaces"?
A common trait of people who commit heinous acts like this, is to compulsively or chronically lie and decieve. Usually, it's about control and upholding a facade to validate their inflated egos and protect the broken person inside of them from feeling shame.
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It’s almost amusing that an x-con doesn’t even entertain the idea that Christian would have lied to him. People seen what he wanted them to see. If they began to see thru that & let’s say...either pay rent or be evicted...he didn’t have to pretend anymore, he’d just carry out his dreams/fantasies. He probably seen the B&B as his modern day
Bates Motel. He probably wanted Jimmy’s job as the “handyman”.
The whole exchange was really interesting and I do hope they reach out so that we can do a follow up. I have so many questions. Thanks for listening! ♡
Was thinking the same thing. What is the con in prison for? Of course dude is going to behave in prison😏
I have Asperger's and live in Maine but I don't go around killing people. I'm a medical assistant in a residential home for special needs adults. I love helping people ❤
Thank you for everything you do!
It’s weird that the former inmate in the comments never considered the possibility that the murderer lied to him on top of killing innocent people
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We're thankful for you! Welcome aboard, happy to have you here ❤️
Just wanted to leave a comment after watching so many of your videos and subscribing. There's just something about your episodes that are so riveting. Almost feels like I'm hearing someone discuss a casefile with how detailed it is but said in a manner that respects the story. I've come across channels that tend to embellish certain aspects and I've grown so tired of that. I just want to hear a story of actual facts and not dolled up ones for views. Good thing is, recent and new crime channels are popping up that have taken more care about that.
Thanks for sharing this story. It's just harrowing how much life changes for so many people just because of someone's act of violence. It's frightening.
Thank you for the kind words Dee! I agree, True Crime felt very exploitative to me for a long time, and even before the popularity of podcasts, channels like Investigation Discovery would embellish parts of the case and try to make things more interesting for TV. I'd like to believe that this new generation of True Crime creators are really starting to understand the responsibility they have in running their platform and making up for the mistakes of shows in the past.
He went on a hunger strike huh??? Oh how smart of him...
They should have let him continue with that hunger strike right up to him "winning." It would have saved a lot of tax payer dollars just buying a pine box vs. a lifetime of care, food & housing.
Agreed 100%
pssst if you guys read old comments, this conversational style is wonderful. if you ever wanted to sprinkle this vibe into your newer content every now and then, that would be phenomenal 🥰
I'd love to. I enjoyed this era, but most viewers don't like it at all. I plan to start doing livechats in the near future, and those would definitely be more conversational
I've literally been staying up the last 2 night stupid late watching your videos cuz I can't sleep, I'm officially becoming obsessed with your channel. I do wish there was more Maine true crimes on here tho but I'm definitely enjoying alot of these videos. Thank you for keeping me entertained on the nights my insomnia is in high gear and sleep isn't happening.
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You are so welcome, Ashley! We'll have more Maine cases for you!
AMEN I feel exactly the same way!
as someone with asbergers syndrome and ASPD, I know that its like to try and communicate anything and it’s very very hard. I tend to smile laugh or smirk at inappropriate times unintentionally, my face just sort of does it. Anyway, what he did and the sentences he got is all logical, I think he had the urge to kill, something regarding his perception of how he was being treated triggered him and after he satisfied that urge and “came to” in a sense, he called his dad and cooperated as best he could with a mental disorder that severely inhibits one’s ability to communicate emotions, and reasoning behind emotional events. I hope this sheds some potential insight
No one knows what ASPD means
Had never heard of this 😳
Very scary and sad
Small towns up in Maine we don't expect things like this
Thank you for sharing and doing so much research
Thank you so much for the comment! And I agree, with the way life is in Maine, we never ever see something like this coming
You guys cover sooooooo many cases I've never heard of before. Heading to Prime right now...I was looking for something to watch on my day off. I still don't understand this dude's reason for doing what he did. I'm looking at my phone with the most confused look and can only think "Wait...what???" I have so many questions. Anyway...thanks for the great job you both do.
Thank you SO much!!!
That movie southie kinda sux but then again for a low budget kind of film it was good. I don't know 😕 🤷 bro. I can't decide if I like it or not.
Again another great episode. I never miss an episode. Always stay up every Sunday just to wait for the episode to come out. This man sounded completely insane. And the fact of the people arguing over him and his behavior in the comments made them sound like children. Infact they sounded almost as insane as him. Crazy. Love you guys. Keep up the great work. I promise I'll be here every Sunday night. One of the first to watch.
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His dad was my English teacher when that happened he was such a kind man
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Mainer here, I had never heard of this. I'm from Aroostock County, I remember hearing over 15 years ago that multiple buckets filled with cement and remains were found in the woods but never heard anything more about it. Also, I remember there was a decapitation at a dodgy Scottish Inn in Houlton. Maine has some pretty disturbing crime though rare.
I'll have to look into that. The multiple buckets incident, was that in Aroostock County too? It's crazy the amount of things that happen out there which have no record when you try to google them. I think that's what shocks me the most, just how much the media pretends like it doesn't happen here at all.
His parents were both teachers in my highschool.
I can't even imagine how their parents must feel.
Now that is the scariest thing I heard !!!
Who cares about the parents?
They are irrelevant
@@teresagilley1963 I've heard from many, many folks that they were really good people.
@@carltonthepug we care. This is a community and the case is local.
Loving the cases you both do out of Maine! Can’t wait to visit there, I love seeing any pictures and video! Being a huge consumer of true crime, I love your guys’ show! Amazing content and details! Also, love your kitties! I have 3 black kitties myself!
on behalf of the victims familys thank you for paying homage and giving them more than just a name but also a picture with there birthdate and date they passed! Too often we see in true crime the victims go very un-appreciated, you guys always do the opposite👏
I'm Selby's daughter and I wish they would take this video down. They're monetizing off of something I love with and breaks my heart daily. There's nothing respectable about this
I really liked this episode. Enjoyed the back and forth discussion.
Just seeing his pic close to the beginning of the case creeped me out. To me his eyes look cold, dark and soulless. Yikes. Heartbreaking what he did to hurt not only his immediate victims but all of the families involved. Those poor children have lost so much. Definitely lifting in prayer. 💔🙏🏻
I absolutely appreciate this channel and the two of you committing to telling the story from an official report perspective.
I've been watching you guys for a little over a month. Both of your channels. I didn't think I'd like you guys and then I realized I ran out of videos to watch I always do this without realizing. I absolutely love the way you present these cases and the coverage and research backing them. Good work and I hope you get the coverage you deserve
It seems that Christian’s “Signature” was dismemberment. Dismemberment seemed to be the motive. At least from what I can tell from the details told… He quickly and without prejudice, killed his victims. He wasn’t focused on the act of killing, but the act post mortem. The killings seemed very impulsive, and rushed, while the act dismembering victims is slow and methodical. It’s not easy to do. It takes time and real effort. It seems that he took great joy in the dismemberments.
Thank you for covering these cases, which many of us haven't heard of, though many of us might have. It feels very relatable, not sensationslzed, which means more of us might go into the next day understanding that terrible things might be happening under our noses. That means we might notice ways that we can help the authorities take notice--or even actions we can take that could have a direct impact! Your channel might be a catalyst for change, which I admire deeply.
You guys I'm from RI, and let me say this, you guys are MY FAVORITE channel on UA-cam for true crime, with so many out there and really good ones, for me you take the cake , absolutely love it❤️I'm hoping and 🙏 you guys hit a million one day💎❤️
Thank you SO much! This is very high praise that you choose us out of all the other channels out there. I hope to keep seeing you in our comment section, especially when we hit one million ❤️❤️❤️
I love that you guys went from 4300 to 20k in 4 months ❤️
It's insane to think about, but we're super grateful. We appreciate you! ❤️❤️
Heard of this case a few times before, but liked all the detail that you included in your telling of these senseless murders. He seems to just “ want to” see what killing people would be like, to be known for something other than a basic nobody! They were just there, I don’t think he particularly hated these people, it was just easy. He is so cold, such an empty waste of a human shell.
Just found y'all,subscribed,listening from Austin, I so appreciate cases I have never heard of🌻
Thank you so much!!
I just watched this case covered on another channel and was intrigued to learn more. Thank you for so throughly covering this case and showing so many photos and including heaps of extra details. A very strange case and even scarier given the fact it appears to be a completely motiveless crime other than a thrill kill. You have a new subscriber! 😊 ❤️
If you think someone has just murdered people, maybe don’t confront them about it! I would think get the hell out of there as fast as possible is the way to handle that particular situation
Exactly, that was weird.
stop victim blaming
@@SeeMeRolling Oh please. We were talking strategy, not your lefty crap, it happens, but it wasn't happening here. Must you always throw fits?!
@@steff.7028 yeah if someone was on a killing spree out in the middle of nowhere i dont think my feet would touch the ground and not let off the gas pedal for a very long time
Just subscribed to this channel! Only found it a couple of nights ago but have really enjoyed what I've seen so far. Being from Scotland, I haven't heard of many of these stories really so it's been great expanding my true crime knowledge.
Recently found you guys and I'm loving your channel! New sub! ❤️
Me too!
Thank you so much! And welcome!! ❤️
Same, for ME too
I got this show today Monday in Belfast Ireland, another fantastic podcast. I love the way they are so dedicated to finding the truth not the newspaper story line. This was disturbing only for his da he could have killed more. you take finding the truth all the way and his mental health too.
i live in belfast maine
@@bertherbest1389 That's amazing there must be more Belfast's about the world but none with a bloody history like Ireland's Belfast. Belfast in Maine must be sunny and exciting here it is usually grey cloudy and rain but tod day we have broken our weather record ever with 30 degrees , we melt at 18 /20 degrees . Lovely to find out we both live in Belfast in Irish its Béal Feirste means mouth of the river just where we built the unsinkable Titanic
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A seaport in and the capital of Northern Ireland.
A town in the State of Maine, USA. I think there is only the 2 of us. I am going to google Belfast Maine to see how different my city is from yours God Bless
@moya thiompson we live on the coast 😀
and we also have a shipyard 💘
@@bertherbest1389 We live on Belfast Lough Harland and Wolf is the shipyard. I googled Belfast Maine and it's history. You live in an absolutely beautiful place
Wow I really respect your willingness to do thought experiments, get in the mind of different people, take in different people's opinions even if you have criticism. That is healthy, I wish more people could practice this because it really keeps all avenues open and the possibility to learn always there. Great job. You two do such amazing work. Like no other crime channel. You're so very open-minded about trying to understand each individual. Respecting the victims, trying to look and learn the full story and possible variables to the stories details. You'd both make amazing detectives 👍 (have you ever played L.A. Noire the video game?) You'd LOVE it if you haven't.
Thank you for such a wonderful compliment. This means so much to us, because we do really try to strive for these things, and a lot of people seem to miss it, they think we are defending the killers or focusing on irrelevant things. However when you recognize what we're doing like that, it makes my entire month. I've never played LA Noire! It is Rockstar and in a noir setting so I have a feeling I really would like it. I'll wishlist it on Steam!
People are dying and children being tortured. Put down the video games and help us.
You guys are so wonderful! I love your dedication to the facts, but incredibly empathetic.
You both are smart and empathy! That is an awesome, rare connection, please just grow, don’t change! You both deserve the world, thank you for your courage, respect, humor and love!🥲
Thank you SO much!! ❤️❤️
Love this channel! I love the open dialogue going on during the entire video between you two!
Thank you so much!! ❤️❤️
What happened to these people us absolutely horrific,but the dogs too!:(:(
Absolutely heartbreaking.
@@TheMiseryMachine do e no I’m i yo lmmm
Speak english for fukk's sake
I'm a fairly new subscriber. After watching the first video I binge watched all of your videos. You guys never disappoint!!
When you said that no one would be looking for them, I was wondering if whoever had Selbys 2 children(like a babysitter or their school?) would not be looking for her?
I'm Selby's daughter and I wish they would take this video down. They're monetizing off of something I love with and breaks my heart daily. We were extremely worried when she didn't come home, but she was with Cindy. We thought maybe everything was okay and they went to the country club but when her phone turned off like my grandmother Julie's right after she arrived at the house I just knew they were all dead. I was 11, of course no one took my worries super seriously
Anytime someone uses the word "awesome" when describing such violence, is a psychopath. What a story though! Thx guys! xx
It's insane that anything like this could happen here!
Awesome isn’t always meant in a positive way- awesome doesn’t equate good. Right?
Awe inspiring...
Never say it can't happen here because it does...sadly
I'd have to agree....
Your videos are very interesting. I have chronic insomnia so I love binge watching your videos
Thank you so much for listening. I feel you on the insomnia - I go through bouts of it :(
@@TheMiseryMachine you're very welcome
I remember when this happened so clearly because I was living in Waterford Maine with my girlfriend, but traveled through Bethel and Newry often on my way to Andover to my girlfriend’s parents house. My girlfriend’s sister had dated Christian Nielsen in high school. I remember when she told me about that after these murders took place. I was shocked when I heard that, and also shocked because I had been in the Upton area when Neilson was dismembering and burning the body.
I'm so happy I came across this channel love your stories I'm a new subscriber and I'll be here till the end keep up the great work and God bless
Thank you so much Jolie! We are happy to have you here ❤️
I smile when nervous and in many situations it makes me look really bad
I have the most sus face at all times - I feel you
Love you guys found you randomly when I was watching the other videos of UA-cam influencers and I absolutely love you guys and I do have family in Maine so it's nice to always hear things about Maine .it makes me feel closer to them
Wow, how awful. Thank you for retelling their story.
My first time to your channel and I would like to say I really enjoy how you've put it all together, totally a new fan 😀
This is very similar to a case here in Australia. Martin Bryant killed a whole bunch of people at a tourist attraction/Cafe in Tasmania. He showed no remorse and was later diagnosed with Aspergers.
The show 'Sunday Night' did a special on him not too long ago, with an update on his situation in jail, is really interesting and worth a look in.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I will add Martin Bryant to the list, I've never heard of this case before and it's certainly something that we'd cover
@@TheMiseryMachine thank you for your reply, was a nice surprise.
Yeh, He was actually MindControlled, Check out the 'Fodder Note' on UA-cam. Yes it's true. Should make your investigation that little bit more interesting. But most Harden their hearts because it means they have been decieved or more likely to hard to believe some in the Government would let such a thing happen.
That's just 1 clue.
That picture of Christian looks exactly like Ryan Gosling!
I thought it was just me that saw it. I'm glad I'm not alone ♡ Yergy
The dogs are a bridge too far. Went from intellectual curiosity to blind rage in 10 seconds
Dude kinda looks like Tim McVeigh 😳
E. Ruthless : Yes indeed.
E. Ruthless, damn, he sure as hell does, great observation!!!
At 23:43 my first thought (without my glasses) was, “ is that a picture Timothy McVeigh?”
My ex girlfriend and I lived next door to jimmy whitehust in oldorchard beach . Above the whaler to be exact . He was a very kind man and would lend a hand to anyone who he could help . Yes he had polio and his physical attributes were limited . But yes a man that wanted to be closer to his kids . We got to know him really well . Did lots of hanging out with him and was truly a kid at heart. My heart broke when I heard this news years back and just came across this video . Jimmy certainly didn’t do anything to deserve this . Not saying anyone said he belittled him , but yeh I knew this man jimmy well and never did I think he deserved notching but to be close to his children who he adored . Rest in peace jimmy …. Your friend Toby
Wow!! I live 30 mins from here and I've seen that b&b but I never knew about this story.
Such a small world!
Hi, Devil's advocate here,
Before I begin I feel it's necessary to make this disclaimer: **I DO NOT CONDONE NOR JUSTIFY WHAT HE DID**
now to my point. As someone who has been treated like shit throughout their life, starting with the family and spreading to the workplace, I can distinguish the idea that he "snapped." I have been dragged into closets by male coworkers (I'm a female) and felt pressure to expose myself inorder to get out because they were blocking my exit. The supervisor was also the HR so she immediately told me i was lying. I was accused of all sorts of dumb shit, they played god with my paychecks, and I didn't have any support to help me properly navigate the situation. Plus my boss was really close with both the local news station and the sheriff's office, so yeah. Hands tied. I have been gaslighted since I was a child and was emotionally abused.
At a certain point you do essentially snap. When there's nothing but negativity in all social aspects of your life, you either self-harm or lash out at others. I found it much easier to be homeless and hungry that to continue working in that toxic place. I have been estranged from my family since before the pandemic, and have not spoken to anyone I knew pre-COVID. But the damage was blatant. I was having panic attacks and had to be pulled off the floor many times because I would just break down.
I didn't kill anyone and I didn't even raise my voice once. But had I not left that situation, I absolutely was on the path of suicide.
But that's just it. I left before that happened. I am NOT defending what he did AT ALL, but I do want people to really consider how they treat people. Murder is not the answer, but when you abuse someone, you are enabling that inner monster. So yes. If they were as horrible to him as he said, then I do believe they played a part in their own demise. No, they did not "deserve" it, but again, just because being an asshole isn't illegal, doesn't mean you can treat people like shit. No different from school bullies who end up getting shot because the kid they've been torturing for 3 years finally decided to end their torment and bring a gun to school.
Not saying it's their fault, but you don't get to play innocent when you torment someone. Not saying what he did is okay, understandable, justified, or morally acceptable. *I AM NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL*,
BUT people need to take accountability in the hurt they inflict on others. Especially if that hurt manifests into behavior.
All I'm saying is, hold your peers responsible. Treat people like people.
My point isn't to justify the murders, but rather highlight the poor way people treat others. I left every negative entity in the past so clearly I don't condone murder or any other form of violence, and will always advocate for walking away over getting locked up. But if people are expected to walk away from a bad situation, then the people who created that situation should at the very least acknowledge they were being inappropriate..
I know some of you will read 3 words in and try to jump down my throat 🙄 y'all are probably the same ones treating folks badly.
I think this comment needs more likes. As a fellow cult, dv, and sa survivor I agree and resonated with what you had to share. I expressed similar views on the Aileen Wurnous case. Thank you for sharing your voice and allowing me to feel more valid with mine. 😊🙈🙉🙊
Murder was never something that crossed my mind while being abused.
@@AutumnSwift2 that's you. You are not the poster child for what to do with your trauma.
New subscriber. I am a SF native. I remember hearing about this. Tragic for ANY place. This is why I listen to my gut. I am too empathetic.
Sucks when horrid things happen to good people.
I hear you, absolutely tragic for any place. Thank you for the sub!
I didn't know you guys were from Maine! I just found this channel. I live in Southern Maine. This may sound sick but I feel like you will understand what I mean. This story is AWESOME!
It's so sad how easily people with mental health diagnosis slip through the cracks and then you hear their names in the news for unspeakable crimes. Our country could do so much better and save so many lives!
Hang on, just because someone has a mental illness DOES NOT mean they're a murderer or a psychopath. There's a stigma that's associated with mental conditions and that's part of why people don't seek help, of course, the whole mental healthcare services suck, also.
My partner has schizophrenia and ADHD. I, myself, have mental health issues, and neither of us could be Ever harm another human or even an animal.
Just goes to show why ppl are so fascinated by killers and WHY do they kill? Much is still just speculative and other stuff has been proven to have an effect during childhood. However, there are many killers who grew up living relatively normal childhood.
I don't get it :(
@@LynnAgain83 my comment didn't say that all with mental health dx are killers, psychopaths or even ill tempered.
What I did say is that we do not do a good enough job at treating and caring for those with mental illnesses in the US. If we did, then maybe those who could have been treated would not have offended. I am well aware that many a crime is done by those without DX.
And I know all too well how horribly people are treated (or not treated) bc I've been a nurse for well over a decade and I have a daughter with a dx and we fight with doctors and insurance often.
Great 👌 WORK 👍 thank you both y'all are awesome and very good at explaining the crime stories!!!!!!!
I am a fairly new subscriber. I love how thorough you are when you do your stories
Why do the schizophrenia patient never hear anything good from those voices?! Good vs evil!
Have you ever covered the hart family. If you have I would be greatly interested in hearing it. I want to thank you for your dedication to true crime. The human mind is compelling , and I thoroughly appreciate all of your work and effort in bringing the truth behind the stories. Thank you so much for all your hard work. I listen to you everyday as I drive to and from work. Thanks
Great video, glad i found you and am happy to subscribe. Fab storytelling ❤️
Thank you so much!! ❤️❤️
Wow, thanks for going out if you’re way for the drive by! You guys rock.
I really, really like random drives. It kept me sane during the pandemic. ♡ Yergy
@@TheMiseryMachine I love to drive too, it’s soothing though I’d prefer to be on the water. I grew up on a small island so I can’t get enough of being on the ocean. The drive down to Homer is beautiful though. The fireweed is in full blue and looks gorgeous against the aqua teal color of the Kenai River.
I love you guys. You do amazing work which I'm sure is not easy. You show pure emotion and sympathy. Thank you for bringing nothing but facts forward in these cases .
Just found you guys, in love already, only 5 minutes in. I have soooo much to look forward to while doing housework. Thankyou, you saved me 🤣😚😬
Thank you Ruth! We are very happy to keep your company during housework ❤️
I watched Christian's "Signs of a Psychopath" episode on the ID Channel & you guys summed it up according to that show. And you are also correct that the whole 30 minute show (if memory serves me right it was a 30 segment), is based on actual recordings of Christian, his own words from his interrogation, as well as bringing the detectives to Jimmy's murder site. However you guys went further with the research. Great job! Thank you!!!
I was a failure to thrive and that means I wasn't on the average scale for weight and height and couldn't get to those average levels. He was very small before he went on the hunger strike for his height. That's what that could mean. I was also disabled when I was born which means in and out of Shriners for 10 yrs with surgeries, therapies, and after care.
I honestly didn’t know how much I love your content until yesterday when I went to see if you had any videos I haven’t watched yet. Lots of scrolling 😅 I didn’t realize I’ve watched so so many! Been a fan a long time. Thank you for the content! We all must bear witness and try to understand. It’s hard to imagine being the same species as some of these perpetrators but alas, we are.
Dare I point out bundy and Manson were both very intelligent and charismatic and good conversationalist and still psyco
Very nice storytelling... of not-the-usual true crimes.... always glad to see another episode.
Always happy to know you're listening!
Thank you for not detailing the dogs' deaths. Im weird. I can listen to most info on human deaths and be ok. But not animals ,especially dogs. Not crazy about details on little kids or babies . Gannon Stauch hit me harder than any other for some reason. I cried for ages. And I dont even know many details...OK I spoke too soon about the dogs...😪
Wow that’s exactly how I feel…
I’m the same. It’s because animals and children are defenceless. The latest story in the media about those two brothers who slaughtered their entire family nearly finished me.. the little brother on the telephone to the police.. telling them his big brothers were breaking down the door, he was hiding and they were going to kill him 😭😭😭 and they did kill him.
@@l15ora bever brothers?
I'm the same!!
Its not weird at all. Humans domesticated dogs and are required to be their caretakers. They are trusting and forgiving. They have no concept of psychopathy.
Lots of people are abused in horrific ways but they don't kill. If a person doesn't like the situation they're in they should just leave. That is just a cop-out for a psychopath.
While I was in a toxic household at 13 I looked for multiple ways out but never did anything because I had a little sister. I chose to stay and be the scapegoat just so my sister wouldn't become it if I left. I could've flat out said she was not being nice at all but narcissism fucks with you. I was more concerned about my sister's well being and her not being a main target than my ability to easily never go back. I could've easily said I didn't want to go back and had my sister go alone sense I was old enough to choose, I wasn't going to leave her behind but I also wasn't going to say shit about what was happening.
If you were to write to that psychopath, he'd play you like Michael Cleveland on a fiddle.
Oh I don't doubt it, some try to. I have been writing prisoners off and on for the last 17 years. Some find it strange, but it's really not. Folks consume true crime via podcasts, UA-cam, books, Netflix - I just happen to go straight to the source. I haven't written in a bit since we've been so busy. The criminals never talk to you about their cases. They do talk a lot about prison life, which I find interesting. Much love ♡ Yergy
What do you mean it's straight out of a horror story?? You're in Maine. You're in Steven King's horror story.
Stephen*
Love u guys 😁 keep up the great work im a big fan my friends and family also subscribed and now they are telling everyone they know about you guys ☺
Thank you so much, Shannon!!!!
I just discovered your content a few days ago and absolutely love your videos! But I have to ask, are you able to monetize your videos? I am 5 minutes into this video and had no less than 7 ad breaks with two non skippable ads :( it kinda breaks the immersion, but if you two are the ones profiting from it, I’m absolutely for it!
I appreciate the support but I'm sorry about that! It appears to be out of our control. Somebody just told me that there is a bug affecting a lot of people watching videos that are getting way more ads than normal? People are complaining about it on Twitter.
We don't have many videos that are approved for monetization, but this one is one of those few that are!
@@TheMiseryMachine thank you so much for your reply and the explanation! If you can profit from it at least, I wholeheartedly support it! Thank you for the great content :)
I like how the prison buddy minimizes the hunger strike on one hand, that it was exaggerated by the media, then says he almost died.
Murderous rampages are contained events. Even people who are legitimately insane aren't in a perpetual state of murderous rampage; most of the time they are capable of playing cards and having a conversation (though it would be apparent before long that they are insane). If they are not legitimately insane, and Christian Nielson was found not to be insane, then of course he can play cards and pretend to be upset about his murderous rampage and have excuses for why his victims were to blame for their grizzly deaths.
I'm sure everyone in prison has all kinds of reasons why their victims are the real perpetrators.
I love.your guys channel, you have a different approach. I like u show places give a.little history! I'm bingeing again :)
Thank you so much! We're happy to have you here! ❤️
Your welcome guys! You guys have such a good channel!
Wow a month ago you were at 4,300 subscribers and now you’re at over 19K! That’s amazing in just a few short weeks, well done Misery Machine. How anyone could shoot someone in cold blood, is beyond me but going so far as to dismember victims, is on a whole other level of psychopathy. Killing the dogs!! This man belongs in jail for life, never allowed another breath of fresh air or a hug from his dad or any other loved ones (if they still claim him) ever again. This man is a horrible monster and it’s too bad he wasn’t allowed to starve himself to death, if that’s how he wants to go out. I get his family could sue the prison for wrongful death, how ironic that he as a prisoner has more rights and protections than his victims were ever afforded. Glad he’ll eventually die in prison either way.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I agree, I hope he never sees the light of day again. He is absolutely disgusting.
Love this channel and I'm glad I came across it!!!
It’s crazy to hear these stories about Maine. I was born in Farmington and my family still lives in the Skowhegan area as well as Kingfield/Carrabassett. My family owns Jordan Lumber in Kingfield. It really makes it feel like it’s to close and that things like that really happen.