Yes, and Bunnytails may miss Sulu in several more episodes since the shooting was delayed several weeks due to heavy rains resulting in mud at the shooting location in Georgia (USA).
George told John Wayne that he was against the pro war view of the film. John told him, that he hired Takei because of his acting abilities and not his politics.
Poor Spock!!! Plant spikes to the chest, laughed at because of his name, struck by lightning with 2nd degree burns on his back, and Kirk comparing him to pointed ear Satan. Good thing he is a Vulcan or he wouldn't have survived!!
Our popular concept of Satan has changed a lot over the decades. In the '60s, the network was very concerned that Spock, with his pointed ears and slanted eyebrows looked too satanic. In fact, NBC airbrushed a publicity photo of Spock so that his ears and eyebrows looked more human. In popular culture, Satan was often portrayed as having pointed ears, slanted eyebrows, and red skin. According to Gene Roddenberry's original concept for Spock his skin was to be red! In fact, on the cover of James Blish's first novelization of Star Trek episodes Spock is shown with red-tinted skin. Anyway, the network stopped complaining when Spock became the most popular character on the show. But today, when Kirk suggests Spock looks like Satan we go, "Huh? How does Spock look like the devil?"
@@kwebb121765 Originally, Gene Roddenberry wanted Spock to have 'Red' skin as well, but the networks would never allow it. I read that in the paperback book "The Making of Star Trek".
It is quite impressive how the crew of the many Trek shows become so intertwined with this culture that they quite willingly become characters on fan films. How few shows can state that powerful of an influence?
She coincidentally starred in a film referencing the Garden of Eden called The Face of Eve a year later. Where she plays a “white jungle goddess”, what can I say, it was the 60s.
Celeste Yarnall had a small role in the Elvis Presley film Live a Little, Love a Little. Shari Nims, who plays the native woman Sayana here, had a small role in the Elvis Presley film Easy Come, Easy Go. Coincidence?
This episode was the basis for the Mego toy playset released around 1978. The toy took several artistic liberties as Mego was known for in their Star Trek toy line.
13:35 This male native is played by David Soul. He was best known for his role as Ken "Hutch" Hutchinson in the 70's classic tv show, "Starsky & Hutch".
Right that comment about redshirts to us, major loss to Kirk was honestly not something I’ve ever considered after so many years of watching them buy it by the dozen. One of the many reasons we love seeing BT react to a classic like OG trek.
@@noneya3635🤦🤦🤦 wow. Never considered that basic act of empathy. And No… they didn’t buy it by the dozen - far from it. About one death every 3 episodes.
Even if the phasers didn’t put Val out of commission, Kirk could have gone to plan B, using his verbal gymnastics to talk the machine into killing itself!
During TOS the Prime Directive-also known as General Order One-was more of a guideline to not interfere in other societies, particularly those less advanced. But we do see evidence of the Federation interacting with primitive societies who are aware the “strangers” are not of their world, such as in “Friday’s Child.” Because the inhabitants of “Friday’s Child” refer to Kirk and his crew as Earthmen it’s possible their contact predates the founding of the Federation and the non-interference directive. We also know the Federation can waive the directive in certain situations, like potential hostilities as seen in “Errand Of Mercy” and “A Taste Of Armageddon.”
Your discussion reminded me of an incident in my past. I was visiting India and was in a remote village. The tour guide told us that ten years ago "all of us were very happy." Then, they obtained the technology to catch the airwaves and see the world on television sets. They then saw themselves as being in absolute poverty and were discontented with life. They sent their children to schools to try and better themselves but their children experienced great shame at being so backwards. It would be interesting to go visit them now that it is twenty years later. How is the village doing? The people were all extremely beautiful. It was said by others that these people were the absolute standard for the perfect human physique. It is the calling card of this village.
You probably already know that you got a shout out by Robert Meyer Burnett on his channel, that he watches your TOS reactions video and finds your perspective interesting and it gives him hope a new generation can be interested in this old show. He was involved in the Berman era of Star Trek (1987 to 2005) at Paramount as consultant, video editor for the Las Vegas "Star Trek Experience" and producer/interviewer/editor for the TNG Bluray extras (he produced also the extras for the LOTR and Tron DVDs).
Bunny, your comments at the end about how technology moves forward and some things are gained, others lost, is astute. I have a history degree, and have continued to study history throughout my life, and have thought about this concept as well. I think the important aspect of this concept is human experience. We, as a species, have experienced these different times with their varying degrees of technology and their different pros and cons, and that's what's important.
"The Apple" is certainly one of the less popular installments, but I consider it one of the most hilarious episodes. Funniest scene is 6:46; the Federation and Starfleet are all about "We come in peace", tolerance, conflict avoidance, etc (which the show frequently drives home with all the subtlety of a jackhammer); yet standard policy for First Contact with a single, clearly unarmed individual apparently is to preemptively punch him in the face. Also love your thoughts on the non-interference policy (indeed, what if the Enterprise had not been in danger?). "We bring you freedom and equality according to your values, whether you want it or not" is quite a common theme particularly in Star Trek TOS.
The late David Soul went on to stardom. He was in "Here Come The Brides" and "Starsky and Hutch". He had a big late-70s hit with "Don't Give Up On Us, Baby". Pretty good tune.
@@csmelen I know what you mean,I once had a floating,naked girl out side my window and I told her to leave because she had-NOTHING-of use for me.Especially after dark.
There's a blooper of this scene floating around out there. In it, she's wearing a full-length evening gown, and upon attempting the spin kick, simply falls over.
Kirk was making fun of Spock at the end because he looks like Satan with his pointed ears. Some interesting references to Genesis in this episode and David Soul in a small role. He was great on the 1970's show Starsky & Hutch. I used to watch that when I was a kid. RIP Mr. Soul. Great reaction Bunnytails!!
The builders of Vaal were so advanced they made a machine that can control weather and cripple a starship in orbit, powered by daily offerings brought by locals on foot.
Great reaction, as always! The lasting contribution of Star Trek is that it stimulates contemplation and intelligent discussion, both by you, Bunny, and by the many commenters below. The ideas explored are still relevant today, providing lasting value.
My favourite moment is the Yeoman kicking ass. No Mary Sue here. A girl you don't want to mess with...... And Scotty gets his job back. Sadly the curse of the red shirts who get a tour of the enterprise strikes again... The insurance premiums must go through the roof when signing on for Starfleet.....
@@bunnytailsREACTS And 100% believable... A lesson modern TV and film could learn... Be honest you didn't see that moment coming.. I didn't either when I watched all those years ago back in the dim recesses of the 20th century.....
Love your reactions! From your epiphany in The Menagerie, to your delight at Kirk, Spock and McCoy's reunion in City on the Edge of Forever to your visceral response during The Green Mile. We share your emotions, so sincere. One of my favorite episodes. But rough day for Spock, three times!
David Soul was the amorous young alien; he was Hutch in Starsky and Hutch, and later was Ben Mears in Salem's Lot. It's a good episode with a lot of tough questions involving the Prime Directive. Once again Kirk does interfere and I agree with his decision. That presumes people who have free choice, and these folks definitely did not. There's an odd mix of tragedy and humor here, but it mostly works. I would have liked to see the young yeoman return, honestly. And yes, there's a lot of great character stuff here again. Thanks for another nice reaction!
I would have liked to have seen a follow up episode. What if Vaal really did cause the rain to fall and the food to grow? So, they return and find the planet has turned to desert and the villagers starving to death. And to make matters worse, "Vaal" is the term in their ancient dictionary meaning, "the prevention of unwanted disease from forbidden touching."
In his book, The Trouble with Tribbles, David Gerrold mentions visiting the set during this episode and noticing how much money they had spent on the set. He wondered what they would do to his episode.
Bunny, alien humanoid species throughout Star Trek TOS seem to speak English because of the Universal Translator. It's a plot device which helps explain why, no matter where our heroes go, everyone can communicate with little effort.
Lightning completely disintegrated the red shirt, but Spock's blue shirt protected him, so he only received 2nd degree burns. Likewise with the poison dart plant: Spock's blue shirt absorbed most of the poison.
When I saw the title, I thought you had some sort of special edition of the old Apple 2 computer! I can only imagine how many people would LOVE to have a Star Trek edition of this old computer! 🤣 This is another thought provoking episode. Notice how the only red shirt in the landing party that survived was the (female) yeoman!
20:55 Excellent discussion of the Prime Directive, Bunny! 👍👍 Non-Interference! In The Original Series, the Prime Directive was definitely not a clearly-drawn and rigid commandment. It had many flaws. In this episode, McCoy is very biased towards his Human perspective. He believes that the natives, just because they are humanoids, should live like Humans. That's an arrogant assumption to make. Like in "The Return of the Archons" (where the Prime Directive was first mentioned), Kirk decided that the natives were not living "as they should be living". He made a personal decision that would affect the entire civilization - for better or for worse. It's a dangerous game to play, deciding how an entire species is to develop, now that you have introduced new ideas and even technology to them.
I don't know if this was mentioned but this is the episode where William Shatner contracted tinnitus from the loud blast of the rock that Spock tossed.. Shatner suffered for 15 years after this episode was aired. He said that it sounded like a constant white noise that never stopped. He said it got so bad that he even contemplated suicide. Fortunately he was able to receive a treatment called tinnitus retraining therapy or TRT. He has since been an advocate for tinnitus treatment and therapy.
Nice analysis!! The younger guy with the younger girl who kissed, that actor went on to star in the 1970's TV series 'Starsky and Hutch". He had a good singing career as well. Was very popular back in the day. He just died this year sadly!
This is true about becoming overly reliant on technology. I remember hearing about how catastrophic a huge solar flare directed at the earth (or Electromagnetic Pulse /EMP weapons) could be if it knocked all power and destroyed equipment. People would starve and society fall into chaos, where as if it were the 19th century, say 1830, it wouldn't be so bad, because there was no electricity (power grid) and many people farmed, fished and hunted for themselves and sold surplus to those that didn't (i.e. city folk and the wealthy).
The pagan god Ba'al or Baal worship, especially among children of Jacob (Israel) was like the number one way to make God (Jehovah) mad. Roddenberry liked to mix these themes likely because moms & grandmas would pickup on them, wagging the finger at the kids for watching it, which would make them want to watch them even more. Pushing the cultural envelope was a common trope in the 60s. Now, being traditional is. Good times. Great reaction Bunny!
Not "finally." Here's the tally for shooting a computer, so far: The Squire of Gothos A Taste of Armageddon Who Mourns For Adonais? The Apple There are fewer instances of confusing a computer, so far: The Return of the Archons The Changeling And one instance of the computers shooting each other, with a little encouragement from Kirk: What Are Little Girls Made Of?
Starfleet Academy requires all freshmen cadets to take a course on outwitting malevolent computers. Kirk's got the highest grade ever recorded for that class.
This is an episode that I weirdly remember some things about very clearly, but other things I had no memory of. I must have only seen it 1-2 times. Definitely raises some interest moral and philosophical questions, especially when considering whether they should have left the planet as soon as their antimatter pods started deteriorating or the first crew member was killed.
Though not written by J.W. Campbell (Who goes there? -> The Thing) this episode does have a lot of resemblance to another of his stories - The Machine. A machine is built and created by an unknown civilization, it functions a lot like Vaal creating a paradise for its creators except it fed the people too, realizing the civilization has become stagnant it leaves them to wander the stars and eventually ends up on Earth where it does the same for/to us.
A more SERIOUS comment. My other comment was more comedic. But on a serious note after having finished watching the vid and hearing your deeper comments about technology and it's advances I appreciate technology not because of entertainment but production, medical advances, travel, communication and on and on. Technology doesn’t solve every problem and sometimes it is abused but it does serve many benevolent purposes for civilized society way beyond just goofing off for entertainment purposes. Some of technology is life changing or life saving.
Love it Bunny! And I would never get mad at you for the order you're watching things in lol! I don't think the Prime Directive is ever spelled out specifically but it's just the principle that if they don't have warp drive (Faster Than Light travel), starfleet wants to leave the civilization alone so it can develop by itself! Of course, there are many situations where the story will push the envelope on that! Such as this one! Like I said don't ever worry about overthinking Star Trek, that's the whole point, to think. 🙂 And you looked regal as always here! 😍 You look cute sitting on the chair with your knees up lol! Doomsday Machine is another great episode, I look forward to it! 🙂
Vaalitus interruptus . . . 😄 Apparently, every 'Paradise' has it's share of serpents. This episode is one I have early memories of . . . like Kirk wryly telling Spock to "be careful where you throw your rocks." One of the aspects that stuck with me was the juxtaposition of the pure peaceful innocence of the natives with their ready acceptance of Vaal's order to kill others. My 8 year old brain had a problem working through the concept of blind obedience. Plus, I might* have had a big crush on Yeoman Kick-Yo-Ass (played by Celeste Yarnall). A bit of trivia - the part of Makora (the dude getting frisky) was played by David Soul of 'Starsky and Hutch' fame. I've really enjoyed watching your reactions to the episodes, and this video is no different. Thank you! *Still do. Would give her a kidney.
The Non interference directive is rule #1 in Starfleet command rules,Captain Kirk had no choice but to interfere because he had to save his crew and the crew of the Starship Enterprise because the machine god vaal prevented this.
interference is allowed in this circumstance, plus the Prime Directive was never really spelled out in the 1960s anyway so the audience couldn't say exactly what it meant
In TOS the prime directive seemed like a goal. It could be broken, but only under the most extreme circumstances. One of the best explanations why Kirk didn't face an inquiry and court martial several times. Later, in TNG, it became more strict. Possibly over the passage of time the Federation saw the ramifications of interfering with other cultures, even if it was thought to be for their own good. No spoilers, but there are a few episodes where it is shown that interference causes greater problems later. Enforcement became more strict, crews were expected to understand that they wouldn't break the rule even if it meant there own life.
@@docsavage8640not true they clearly spell it out in the first season in the early epsoides. Watch again and your see kirk and spock mention it often.
Had the ship not been in danger I think Kirk would have deferred to Star Fleet command as to what to do with these people and that orders would be to leave them as they found them. You raise a very good question, what exactly are the details of the prime directive? It is invoked endlessly but is it ever explicitly defined within the show?
The Prime Directive is basically whatever the plot of a particular episode needs it to be. It is either mentioned, or not mentioned, depending upon whether or not that type of tension is needed to drive the story forward.
It's also useless. As David Gerrold pointed out in his analytical mode, Star Trek was a weekly morality play, commenting on then modern society. The ship was _supposed_ to interfere in other societies, thereby highlighting flaws in our own. It later became part of Trek canon, to the point where other series said that Kirk broke the Prime Directive more often than any other captain in Starfleet.
This is THE "Redshirt" episode. So many of them die, that fans Really began noticing that crewmen/women in Redshirts, tend to die. When I was a kid, we only had a black & white tv... so I didn't catch the issue, until I was in college and got to see them in color. Then it became somewhat comical. I don't consider this a serious episode. I just enjoy the ride... on this one. It's a fun one, if you don't think too much about it.
In a later series, a character comments on Kirk and his team... and his time. She says that they were "a different breed of Starfleet officers. A little slower to invoke the Prime Directive... a little quicker to draw their phasers."
This episode is sometimes noted as an early hint as to saucer separation, though I think what Scotty actually says is he might have to eject the nacelles.
The Green Berets. One of the Duke's last war movies. Sulu's lines were given to Chekov, alowing Koenig to show he could handle more than an "Aye, keptin" and random button-pushing.
I love your reactions and I love Star Trek the original series. There’s only a few episodes i think are too dumb to watch... the Apple is one of them 😁 good god!
I like the title guessing game. And how close to the plot you get from a couple of words. As far as laws go I have to wonder how many are actively chosen vs just inherited.
Both Spock and McCoy had good points about whether this was a situation that needed to be altered. The *important* question is whether these people *chose* to stop progressing and become the servants of Vaal or Vaal just stepped in and took over their society. Given Vaal's actions when the Enterprise arrived (shooting first and not even asking questions later), we can assume that Vaal's motives are less than altruistic. And after all, if he cared for his people, wouldn't he allow them to indulge their...curiosities? By the way, this won't be the last time Spock is compared to Satan in this show. There were concerns at NBC headquarters when Star Trek was first set to air that viewers might associate Spock with Satan (because of the ears and eyebrows), but those fears proved baseless. Still, it gave them a couple of funny in-jokes to tell.
The prime directive is a judgment call by by captains in the Federation, then the emerald tea and the federation council you know reprimand them but since it’s after the fact there’s really not much they can do. Kirk gets cold on the carpet about eight or nine times in the run of the series, but nothing comes of it, this is one of those cases
No Sulu was because George Takei was away making the Green Berets with John Wayne.
Yes, and Bunnytails may miss Sulu in several more episodes since the shooting was delayed several weeks due to heavy rains resulting in mud at the shooting location in Georgia (USA).
George told John Wayne that he was against the pro war view of the film. John told him, that he hired Takei because of his acting abilities and not his politics.
It's a powerful movie. Bunny might want to react to it.
"Fook! Where's my Fook?" - Takei quoting Wayne on the Tomorrow show if I recall.
@@tomyoung9049 It is indeed. As I recall, Timothy Hutton's father had a featured role in the film - Sgt. Vincent 'Pin' Cushin.
Poor Spock!!! Plant spikes to the chest, laughed at because of his name, struck by lightning with 2nd degree burns on his back, and Kirk comparing him to pointed ear Satan. Good thing he is a Vulcan or he wouldn't have survived!!
Our popular concept of Satan has changed a lot over the decades. In the '60s, the network was very concerned that Spock, with his pointed ears and slanted eyebrows looked too satanic. In fact, NBC airbrushed a publicity photo of Spock so that his ears and eyebrows looked more human. In popular culture, Satan was often portrayed as having pointed ears, slanted eyebrows, and red skin. According to Gene Roddenberry's original concept for Spock his skin was to be red! In fact, on the cover of James Blish's first novelization of Star Trek episodes Spock is shown with red-tinted skin. Anyway, the network stopped complaining when Spock became the most popular character on the show. But today, when Kirk suggests Spock looks like Satan we go, "Huh? How does Spock look like the devil?"
@@kwebb121765 Originally, Gene Roddenberry wanted Spock to have 'Red' skin as well, but the networks would never allow it. I read that in the paperback book "The Making of Star Trek".
"the holding, the touching ...Vaal has forbidden this" always gets a laugh out of me. Vaal is such a killjoy.
Well we won't be inviting Vaal to any of our parties, will we ?
I have always loved the cheerful manner in which Akuta speaks this line: "Vaal has forbidden this!" - Oh boy, ain't that great?
Vaal was always lame.
Yeoman Martha Landon is played by Celeste Yarnall. Another amazing 1960's beauty. She later rejoined the Trek universe for a fan film in 2008.
It is quite impressive how the crew of the many Trek shows become so intertwined with this culture that they quite willingly become characters on fan films. How few shows can state that powerful of an influence?
She coincidentally starred in a film referencing the Garden of Eden called The Face of Eve a year later. Where she plays a “white jungle goddess”, what can I say, it was the 60s.
Celeste Yarnall had a small role in the Elvis Presley film Live a Little, Love a Little. Shari Nims, who plays the native woman Sayana here, had a small role in the Elvis Presley film Easy Come, Easy Go. Coincidence?
Celeste Yarnell was a very nice person. She was a friend of my late great uncle in Hollywood back in the 1960s.
This episode was the basis for the Mego toy playset released around 1978. The toy took several artistic liberties as Mego was known for in their Star Trek toy line.
03:14 "I love me some good cleavage." I like how she can just say that so deadpan 😂😂😂
I hear that and between that and her appreciating the green girls, all I can think is, “You’re FUN, aren’t you?” 😂
13:35 This male native is played by David Soul. He was best known for his role as Ken "Hutch" Hutchinson in the 70's classic tv show, "Starsky & Hutch".
As a teen I watched Starsky and Hutch. RIP David Soul.
He was also one of the regulars on a show called, "Here Come The Brides" and the made for television film, "Salem's Lot".
@@BarebonesNetwork-w3s He also sang the smash hit from the 70's "Don't Give Up on Us."
He was also in magnum force with Clint Eastwood
Even though I know it is DS I just can't 'see' him when I look at this character ...
16:08 "She's been _practicin'._ Yo. Keep her on full time!"
Personal combat skills are a source of pride for Starfleet personnel.
Loved that comment. One of the best she's made.
Not just another Redshirt. ;)
Bunny is a great combination of deep thinker and sense of humor. Another fantastic reaction.
Right that comment about redshirts to us, major loss to Kirk was honestly not something I’ve ever considered after so many years of watching them buy it by the dozen. One of the many reasons we love seeing BT react to a classic like OG trek.
@@noneya3635🤦🤦🤦 wow. Never considered that basic act of empathy. And No… they didn’t buy it by the dozen - far from it. About one death every 3 episodes.
I was impressed when you called it early and mentioned/asked, "Landru"
Even if the phasers didn’t put Val out of commission, Kirk could have gone to plan B, using his verbal gymnastics to talk the machine into killing itself!
@@desitterspace2127Vaal wasn’t exactly a chatty character… 😂
4:33 "Not to worry, Captain. My shirt is blue. I'm fine."
😆😆
15:47 "Not to worry, Captain. My shirt is blue. I'm fine. I'm singed, but I'm fine."
Lol
Red shirts obviously have never been to a bullfight.
During TOS the Prime Directive-also known as General Order One-was more of a guideline to not interfere in other societies, particularly those less advanced. But we do see evidence of the Federation interacting with primitive societies who are aware the “strangers” are not of their world, such as in “Friday’s Child.” Because the inhabitants of “Friday’s Child” refer to Kirk and his crew as Earthmen it’s possible their contact predates the founding of the Federation and the non-interference directive. We also know the Federation can waive the directive in certain situations, like potential hostilities as seen in “Errand Of Mercy” and “A Taste Of Armageddon.”
I love that you got a little deep there at the end in your discussion. It's great when Star Trek makes you think and question ideas.🖖
Your discussion reminded me of an incident in my past. I was visiting India and was in a remote village. The tour guide told us that ten years ago "all of us were very happy." Then, they obtained the technology to catch the airwaves and see the world on television sets. They then saw themselves as being in absolute poverty and were discontented with life. They sent their children to schools to try and better themselves but their children experienced great shame at being so backwards. It would be interesting to go visit them now that it is twenty years later. How is the village doing? The people were all extremely beautiful. It was said by others that these people were the absolute standard for the perfect human physique. It is the calling card of this village.
Your story calls up a classic philosophical question: "When left alone, do people know that they're poor and miserable?"
You probably already know that you got a shout out by Robert Meyer Burnett on his channel, that he watches your TOS reactions video and finds your perspective interesting and it gives him hope a new generation can be interested in this old show. He was involved in the Berman era of Star Trek (1987 to 2005) at Paramount as consultant, video editor for the Las Vegas "Star Trek Experience" and producer/interviewer/editor for the TNG Bluray extras (he produced also the extras for the LOTR and Tron DVDs).
When 5 red shirts beam down, you know it's gonna be a bloodbath.
Mini-golf! LOL!! That made me laugh!! Adorable!!
Bunny, your comments at the end about how technology moves forward and some things are gained, others lost, is astute. I have a history degree, and have continued to study history throughout my life, and have thought about this concept as well. I think the important aspect of this concept is human experience. We, as a species, have experienced these different times with their varying degrees of technology and their different pros and cons, and that's what's important.
16:00 - yeah, not only Star Trek included women as crew on starship, but also as capable fighters. And it's in 1967.
I’m convinced that this episode single handedly established the whole redshirt means death trope…
Another Great Reaction 👍👍👍. Watching along with you makes these episodes seem fresh to me😊
Glad you like them!
@@bunnytailsREACTSyou’re PHRESH
"The Apple" is certainly one of the less popular installments, but I consider it one of the most hilarious episodes. Funniest scene is 6:46; the Federation and Starfleet are all about "We come in peace", tolerance, conflict avoidance, etc (which the show frequently drives home with all the subtlety of a jackhammer); yet standard policy for First Contact with a single, clearly unarmed individual apparently is to preemptively punch him in the face.
Also love your thoughts on the non-interference policy (indeed, what if the Enterprise had not been in danger?). "We bring you freedom and equality according to your values, whether you want it or not" is quite a common theme particularly in Star Trek TOS.
My bad, that's supposed to be "We bring you freedom and equality according to OUR values, whether you want it or not"
The late David Soul went on to stardom. He was in "Here Come The Brides" and "Starsky and Hutch". He had a big late-70s hit with "Don't Give Up On Us, Baby". Pretty good tune.
Don't forget Salems Lot. That movie still the sh*t out of me, especially the kid vampire floating outside the window, yikes!
@@csmelen yeah.
Also he was one of the killer cops in the Clint Eastwood Dirty Harry movie "MAGNUM FORCE"
Yes, he just died this January.
@@csmelen I know what you mean,I once had a floating,naked girl out side my window and I told her to leave because she had-NOTHING-of use for me.Especially after dark.
I like how Vaal was portrayed as a god, providing the inhabitants of this "Eden" with everything that they needed but was depicted as a serpent.
And at timecode 15:55 we see why a miniskirt is the optimal clothing for exploring the galaxy.
There's a blooper of this scene floating around out there. In it, she's wearing a full-length evening gown, and upon attempting the spin kick, simply falls over.
Kirk was making fun of Spock at the end because he looks like Satan with his pointed ears. Some interesting references to Genesis in this episode and David Soul in a small role. He was great on the 1970's show Starsky & Hutch. I used to watch that when I was a kid. RIP Mr. Soul. Great reaction Bunnytails!!
The builders of Vaal were so advanced they made a machine that can control weather and cripple a starship in orbit, powered by daily offerings brought by locals on foot.
Why use more complexity than you need? Carbon is cheap!
Great reaction, as always! The lasting contribution of Star Trek is that it stimulates contemplation and intelligent discussion, both by you, Bunny, and by the many commenters below. The ideas explored are still relevant today, providing lasting value.
"Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more"
🤣🤣🤣
My favourite moment is the Yeoman kicking ass. No Mary Sue here. A girl you don't want to mess with...... And Scotty gets his job back. Sadly the curse of the red shirts who get a tour of the enterprise strikes again... The insurance premiums must go through the roof when signing on for Starfleet.....
She was awesome!
@@bunnytailsREACTS And 100% believable... A lesson modern TV and film could learn... Be honest you didn't see that moment coming.. I didn't either when I watched all those years ago back in the dim recesses of the 20th century.....
I agree she's one of my favourites pretty and great fighter! Her skirt is slightly different to all rest to which makes her stand out.
@@philfitnesspt6139 Seriously?. Didn't even notice!
@@rogershore3128 Chekov did. :)
Great reaction! You have a great sense of humour too! Thanks!✌❤✌
Thank you!
They were making fun of Spock’s pointed ears, which is in some descriptions of Satan and other demons.
20:15 - agree. Giving Vaal a bit more screen time would have fleshed the episode out nicely.
Love your reactions! From your epiphany in The Menagerie, to your delight at Kirk, Spock and McCoy's reunion in City on the Edge of Forever to your visceral response during The Green Mile. We share your emotions, so sincere. One of my favorite episodes. But rough day for Spock, three times!
Thank you!
It was interesting Vaal was depicted is a serpent on a planet called a Garden of Eden.
your questions about the federation prime directive will be explored more in episodes to come. One at a time... no specific spoilers from me!
Also. I think in the end you will find that the production order or broadcast order difference is insignificant. It works well either way. Enjoy!
David Soul was the amorous young alien; he was Hutch in Starsky and Hutch, and later was Ben Mears in Salem's Lot. It's a good episode with a lot of tough questions involving the Prime Directive. Once again Kirk does interfere and I agree with his decision. That presumes people who have free choice, and these folks definitely did not. There's an odd mix of tragedy and humor here, but it mostly works. I would have liked to see the young yeoman return, honestly. And yes, there's a lot of great character stuff here again. Thanks for another nice reaction!
I would have liked to have seen a follow up episode. What if Vaal really did cause the rain to fall and the food to grow? So, they return and find the planet has turned to desert and the villagers starving to death. And to make matters worse, "Vaal" is the term in their ancient dictionary meaning, "the prevention of unwanted disease from forbidden touching."
In his book, The Trouble with Tribbles, David Gerrold mentions visiting the set during this episode and noticing how much money they had spent on the set. He wondered what they would do to his episode.
That is one Trek's strengths, it makes you think about things.
Great critical thinking skills, Bunny 🙂. We need a lot more of this nowadays.
Minigolf… brilliant 😂 if only Vaal also had another entrance that looked like a windmill 😂
lol
1:21 "Well I've never been to Russia, but I always... think of... like, snow, and very cold..."
Especially around Moscow.
I love it when you get philosophical. Good questions.
the doomsday machine is one of the best.
One does not miss what one never had...
Bunny, alien humanoid species throughout Star Trek TOS seem to speak English because of the Universal Translator. It's a plot device which helps explain why, no matter where our heroes go, everyone can communicate with little effort.
Oh, thanks :D
@@bunnytailsREACTS You're welcome.
@@StuartistStudio1964well the communicators are confiscated a lot and they still speak ENGLISH
Lightning completely disintegrated the red shirt, but Spock's blue shirt protected him, so he only received 2nd degree burns. Likewise with the poison dart plant: Spock's blue shirt absorbed most of the poison.
Once again, a most enjoyable review. I can't wait until you review the Doomsday Machine! You'll love it. Have a great weekend.
"the doomsday machine" is one of my favorites! very much looking forward to the next bunnytails!
they where talking about spocks ears looking like satan. at the end.
Spock: "I am Spock."
[Entire tribe laughs at Spock]
Spock: "Well, so much for Vulcans signing a peace treaty with you guys...."
Evil spores, force fields, lightning, McCoy's potions....
The episode's real title should be "Spock Gets His Ass Kicked!"
The kissy face Man of Vaal was the late David Soul, of Starsky and Hutch, Salem's Lot, and other fame.
Bones: "Well, there goes paradise."
When I saw the title, I thought you had some sort of special edition of the old Apple 2 computer! I can only imagine how many people would LOVE to have a Star Trek edition of this old computer! 🤣
This is another thought provoking episode. Notice how the only red shirt in the landing party that survived was the (female) yeoman!
20:55 Excellent discussion of the Prime Directive, Bunny! 👍👍
Non-Interference! In The Original Series, the Prime Directive was definitely not a clearly-drawn and rigid commandment. It had many flaws.
In this episode, McCoy is very biased towards his Human perspective. He believes that the natives, just because they are humanoids, should live like Humans. That's an arrogant assumption to make. Like in "The Return of the Archons" (where the Prime Directive was first mentioned), Kirk decided that the natives were not living "as they should be living". He made a personal decision that would affect the entire civilization - for better or for worse.
It's a dangerous game to play, deciding how an entire species is to develop, now that you have introduced new ideas and even technology to them.
It would be interesting to return to this planet in a hundred years to see what's come from the seeds planted today. Star Trek VII The Wrath of Vaal.
I don't know if this was mentioned but this is the episode where William Shatner contracted tinnitus from the loud blast of the rock that Spock tossed.. Shatner suffered for 15 years after this episode was aired. He said that it sounded like a constant white noise that never stopped. He said it got so bad that he even contemplated suicide. Fortunately he was able to receive a treatment called tinnitus retraining therapy or TRT. He has since been an advocate for tinnitus treatment and therapy.
Nice analysis!! The younger guy with the younger girl who kissed, that actor went on to star in the 1970's TV series 'Starsky and Hutch". He had a good singing career as well. Was very popular back in the day. He just died this year sadly!
This is true about becoming overly reliant on technology. I remember hearing about how catastrophic a huge solar flare directed at the earth (or Electromagnetic Pulse /EMP weapons) could be if it knocked all power and destroyed equipment. People would starve and society fall into chaos, where as if it were the 19th century, say 1830, it wouldn't be so bad, because there was no electricity (power grid) and many people farmed, fished and hunted for themselves and sold surplus to those that didn't (i.e. city folk and the wealthy).
A real massacre of the red shirts! 😂
The pagan god Ba'al or Baal worship, especially among children of Jacob (Israel) was like the number one way to make God (Jehovah) mad. Roddenberry liked to mix these themes likely because moms & grandmas would pickup on them, wagging the finger at the kids for watching it, which would make them want to watch them even more. Pushing the cultural envelope was a common trope in the 60s. Now, being traditional is. Good times. Great reaction Bunny!
"In the 'dim times'" presumably because they were the times before they had ears to hear Vol. So, the times before Vol.
or if they truly are “immortal“ as McCoy observes with their physical characteristics, then the dim times would be somewhere way back in the past
5:11 "Is he gonna get struck by l... yeah."
I'm glad Captain Kirk finally used the ship's phasers to destroy a superior machine instead of talking it to death.
Not "finally." Here's the tally for shooting a computer, so far:
The Squire of Gothos
A Taste of Armageddon
Who Mourns For Adonais?
The Apple
There are fewer instances of confusing a computer, so far:
The Return of the Archons
The Changeling
And one instance of the computers shooting each other, with a little encouragement from Kirk:
What Are Little Girls Made Of?
I like the talking, the holding . . .
Starfleet Academy requires all freshmen cadets to take a course on outwitting malevolent computers. Kirk's got the highest grade ever recorded for that class.
Red shirt carnage. Probably the start of the meme.
This is an episode that I weirdly remember some things about very clearly, but other things I had no memory of. I must have only seen it 1-2 times. Definitely raises some interest moral and philosophical questions, especially when considering whether they should have left the planet as soon as their antimatter pods started deteriorating or the first crew member was killed.
The Prime Directive is interpreted more rigidly in later series, and sometimes ridiculously so.
I could be wrong, but I think this is the episode where the largest number of "red shirts" die.
I don't want to spoil anything for Bunny Tails, but there is an upcoming episode where the number of dead redshirts meets or exceeds the total here.
It’s often considered the episode that established the “redshirt phenomenon,” so that could be what you’re thinking of.
Though not written by J.W. Campbell (Who goes there? -> The Thing) this episode does have a lot of resemblance to another of his stories - The Machine. A machine is built and created by an unknown civilization, it functions a lot like Vaal creating a paradise for its creators except it fed the people too, realizing the civilization has become stagnant it leaves them to wander the stars and eventually ends up on Earth where it does the same for/to us.
Scotty: I thought ye fired me. So why do ye keep givin' me orders. lol
The planet the Enterprise visited is Gamma Trianguli VI.
I call this episode "The Planet of the Barbie Dolls" -- now that the Barbie movie is out, I can imagine Akuta singing "I am Kenough."
One of the starksy and hutch actors was in this episode. He grew up in the state I live in...
Underrated episode!
01:28 Red Shirt #1
05:18 Red Shirt #2
06:02 Red Shirt #3
15:57 Red Shirt #4
03:48 Spock hit #1
08:43 Spock hit #2
15:31 Spock hit #3
A more SERIOUS comment. My other comment was more comedic.
But on a serious note after having finished watching the vid and hearing your deeper comments about technology and it's advances I appreciate technology not because of entertainment but production, medical advances, travel, communication and on and on. Technology doesn’t solve every problem and sometimes it is abused but it does serve many benevolent purposes for civilized society way beyond just goofing off for entertainment purposes. Some of technology is life changing or life saving.
No this is a classic case of Kirk totally ignoring the prime directive.
The title of this episode should have been, "Vol Hates Spock". He was attacked by a plant, stunned by a forcefield and struck by lightning..
Poor Spock really got the blunt of it all. Makes one think that Vaal was an extension of the network exec's. ;p
Funny thing about the "Red Shirt Guy" is that it is just the guys, "Red Shirt Gals" do just fine in the Star Trek TOS universe.
Not always but yes the women in red do fare better.
Julie Cobb would disagree
Love it Bunny! And I would never get mad at you for the order you're watching things in lol! I don't think the Prime Directive is ever spelled out specifically but it's just the principle that if they don't have warp drive (Faster Than Light travel), starfleet wants to leave the civilization alone so it can develop by itself! Of course, there are many situations where the story will push the envelope on that! Such as this one! Like I said don't ever worry about overthinking Star Trek, that's the whole point, to think. 🙂 And you looked regal as always here! 😍 You look cute sitting on the chair with your knees up lol! Doomsday Machine is another great episode, I look forward to it! 🙂
Vaalitus interruptus . . . 😄 Apparently, every 'Paradise' has it's share of serpents.
This episode is one I have early memories of . . . like Kirk wryly telling Spock to "be careful where you throw your rocks." One of the aspects that stuck with me was the juxtaposition of the pure peaceful innocence of the natives with their ready acceptance of Vaal's order to kill others. My 8 year old brain had a problem working through the concept of blind obedience. Plus, I might* have had a big crush on Yeoman Kick-Yo-Ass (played by Celeste Yarnall). A bit of trivia - the part of Makora (the dude getting frisky) was played by David Soul of 'Starsky and Hutch' fame.
I've really enjoyed watching your reactions to the episodes, and this video is no different. Thank you!
*Still do. Would give her a kidney.
The Non interference directive is rule #1 in Starfleet command rules,Captain Kirk had no choice but to interfere because he had to save his crew and the crew of the Starship Enterprise because the machine god vaal prevented this.
interference is allowed in this circumstance, plus the Prime Directive was never really spelled out in the 1960s anyway so the audience couldn't say exactly what it meant
In TOS the prime directive seemed like a goal. It could be broken, but only under the most extreme circumstances. One of the best explanations why Kirk didn't face an inquiry and court martial several times.
Later, in TNG, it became more strict. Possibly over the passage of time the Federation saw the ramifications of interfering with other cultures, even if it was thought to be for their own good. No spoilers, but there are a few episodes where it is shown that interference causes greater problems later. Enforcement became more strict, crews were expected to understand that they wouldn't break the rule even if it meant there own life.
Except that they interfere in every episode.
@@docsavage8640not true they clearly spell it out in the first season in the early epsoides. Watch again and your see kirk and spock mention it often.
Most of you are confused puppies. The Prime Directive is very well spelled out in The Omega Glory.
Had the ship not been in danger I think Kirk would have deferred to Star Fleet command as to what to do with these people and that orders would be to leave them as they found them. You raise a very good question, what exactly are the details of the prime directive? It is invoked endlessly but is it ever explicitly defined within the show?
Unfortunately, Chekov didn't get the Yeoman. Elvis picked her up at a party in "Spinout" ( Not that I am recommending the movie ).
The Prime Directive is basically whatever the plot of a particular episode needs it to be. It is either mentioned, or not mentioned, depending upon whether or not that type of tension is needed to drive the story forward.
It's also useless. As David Gerrold pointed out in his analytical mode, Star Trek was a weekly morality play, commenting on then modern society. The ship was _supposed_ to interfere in other societies, thereby highlighting flaws in our own.
It later became part of Trek canon, to the point where other series said that Kirk broke the Prime Directive more often than any other captain in Starfleet.
@@Caseytify agree.
Over time, I came to believe that Gene Roddenberry had a pretty warped sense of self-righteousness.
This is THE "Redshirt" episode. So many of them die, that fans Really began noticing that crewmen/women in Redshirts, tend to die. When I was a kid, we only had a black & white tv... so I didn't catch the issue, until I was in college and got to see them in color. Then it became somewhat comical. I don't consider this a serious episode. I just enjoy the ride... on this one. It's a fun one, if you don't think too much about it.
In a later series, a character comments on Kirk and his team... and his time. She says that they were "a different breed of Starfleet officers. A little slower to invoke the Prime Directive... a little quicker to draw their phasers."
This episode is sometimes noted as an early hint as to saucer separation, though I think what Scotty actually says is he might have to eject the nacelles.
The best part of this episode is the eye candy.😍😍😍😍
RIP Makora/David Soul.😇
"No Sulu in this episode"... because George Takai was filming "The Green Berets"!
Sulu missed quite a few episodes this season because he had asked to be let out to make a John Wayne movie.
The Green Berets
The Green Berets. One of the Duke's last war movies. Sulu's lines were given to Chekov, alowing Koenig to show he could handle more than an "Aye, keptin" and random button-pushing.
I love your reactions and I love Star Trek the original series. There’s only a few episodes i think are too dumb to watch... the Apple is one of them 😁 good god!
I like the title guessing game. And how close to the plot you get from a couple of words.
As far as laws go I have to wonder how many are actively chosen vs just inherited.
Both Spock and McCoy had good points about whether this was a situation that needed to be altered. The *important* question is whether these people *chose* to stop progressing and become the servants of Vaal or Vaal just stepped in and took over their society. Given Vaal's actions when the Enterprise arrived (shooting first and not even asking questions later), we can assume that Vaal's motives are less than altruistic. And after all, if he cared for his people, wouldn't he allow them to indulge their...curiosities?
By the way, this won't be the last time Spock is compared to Satan in this show. There were concerns at NBC headquarters when Star Trek was first set to air that viewers might associate Spock with Satan (because of the ears and eyebrows), but those fears proved baseless. Still, it gave them a couple of funny in-jokes to tell.
Ooh, can't wait for The Doomsday Machine!"
The prime directive is a judgment call by by captains in the Federation, then the emerald tea and the federation council you know reprimand them but since it’s after the fact there’s really not much they can do. Kirk gets cold on the carpet about eight or nine times in the run of the series, but nothing comes of it, this is one of those cases
The humanoid with the girlfriend was actor David Soul from 'Starsky and Hutch!
Someone her age either has never heard of it or thinks it's the 2000's movie with Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson
A very fun, lighthearted episode! Thanks for posting!
I really enjoy your reviews bunny❤
Thank you so much!
I like this episode and the dynamics regarding the prime directive and whether to follow it or not