Cloning Mk262 - pt 8 - LeverEvolution and 2000-MR

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  • @jasonfife2751
    @jasonfife2751 7 років тому +37

    Can’t get enough of these vids. The best reloading channel on UA-cam.

  • @armedfarm3429
    @armedfarm3429 2 роки тому +5

    LVR powder is my favorite in 223, I like 25 gr with a Hornady 75 bthp. This powder is easy to find also.

  • @Leiliel666
    @Leiliel666 2 роки тому +3

    I use LVR In 5.56, 6.5g, and 308. If you stick with the powder you'll notice your groups go wonky at colder temperatures. A magnum primer cleans them back up

  • @robertcharles4053
    @robertcharles4053 7 років тому +8

    This is some good work. It seems the 2700-2750 fps range is the sweet spot.

  • @danielmaine45
    @danielmaine45 2 роки тому +2

    One of the best reloading series on you tube!!!

  • @dgunnut6550
    @dgunnut6550 7 років тому +1

    YESSSS, thank you Johnny for another Mk262 cloning video! Very good and interesting results for some powders I would have never considered.

  • @nomamartini1310
    @nomamartini1310 7 років тому +2

    I could be wrong but the staked primers are from the M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round which require a different crimp style for the extreme pressures of that round.

  • @fwa3387
    @fwa3387 4 роки тому +2

    My load: 2000MR 25.6 grains = 2740fps out a Windham Weaponry Varmint mod WW-15 barrel 20 inches (Compass Lake Engineering) chamber gives me a noticeably different recoil over ANY other powders. The 2000MR recoil is a HARD thump compared the typical pop from other powders

  • @CountryBoyPrepper
    @CountryBoyPrepper 7 років тому +10

    Johnny's baaaaaaaack!!!!

  • @truebornsonofliberty554
    @truebornsonofliberty554 7 років тому +25

    Put the pipe down and slowly back away Johnny. 😂😂😂 You’ve been spoiled with an exceptionally accurate barrel. Anything sub moa is considered excellent in the AR platform. 1/2 groups are extraordinary and unusual in anything but purpose built precision rifles. Being disappointed with .66 and .72 groups with LVR powder is.........ridiculous. Someone had to tell you, lol.

    • @kidddogbites
      @kidddogbites 2 роки тому

      I just did a workup with LVR and ended up with almost the exact same results... 77 smk 25.3 gr in LC brass. 0.74" 5 shot groups at 2730 avg (14.5 SD) in an 18" barrel. Have also found LVR likes 175smk in 308 win. really a hidden gem of a powder. Absolutely exceptional.

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 2 роки тому

      @@kidddogbites Did you find data for 175's? What was your starting charge?

    • @kidddogbites
      @kidddogbites 2 роки тому

      @@rdsii64 i used Gordons Reloading tool for workups because i couldnt find any data. Started with 41 grain and worked up. Hit my target velocity(2650) at 45.6 grains with no pressure signs.

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 2 роки тому +1

      @@kidddogbites I have Gordons and 41 seems like a safe starting point.
      Thanks

  • @reelamor9950
    @reelamor9950 7 років тому

    Thanks man. Congratulations again on the elk hunt and the 262 clone have me thoroughly inspired to load some up. I have not used any in a quite a while.

  • @tonsofgunsoffun8516
    @tonsofgunsoffun8516 7 років тому +7

    Another great video. Try reloader 15. I use 24 grains with a 77 grain nosler cc for competitive highpower shooting. It's a great combo.

  • @tier1armorychannel53
    @tier1armorychannel53 7 років тому +2

    SUCH GOOD STUFF JOHNNY , KEEP IT GOING BRO

  • @saltcreekammo
    @saltcreekammo 7 років тому +1

    I've pulled some factory military rounds (m193, m855(A1) etc) and the brass seems to all have a trim length of 1.755

  • @glock17games
    @glock17games 7 років тому +9

    then again, all brass looks good after 22 nosler ;)

  • @calebmarlowe9316
    @calebmarlowe9316 7 років тому

    Enjoyed this one Johnny, two powders I would've never tried. Both with imo excellent results....especially the 2000. Wow, it's an excellent grouper across a wide charge range. Hard to find that sometimes. Looks to be a great all around load at the least. Looking forward to the follow-up on that powder. I would also vote for H4895 as it is an extreme powder and always gives me excellent results in any bullet weight.

  • @tomkimbrel8723
    @tomkimbrel8723 7 років тому +3

    You haven’t talked about making dummy rounds for your various 223 bullets. This would save much time, just thought I would mention it. My complements to you, I reload and have learned much from you, it is possible to teach an old dog new tricks.

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +2

      I switch bullets so much that I don't generally get to make use of dummy rounds! This series would definitely be an exception. I think I'll load one up and start using it. Thanks for the reminder! Should save me a bit of time.

  • @badboytommy187
    @badboytommy187 Рік тому +1

    Nice grouping 100 yards 👍 .

  • @shanerhodes925
    @shanerhodes925 7 років тому

    Nice. But cold it's below zero this morning where I am with the wind. Would like to try that load here this morning

  • @stevefeldt3114
    @stevefeldt3114 7 років тому +2

    Definitely would like to see a H4895 video with the 77gr SMK. Have been waiting for it since the first video

    • @calebmarlowe9316
      @calebmarlowe9316 7 років тому

      Agreed, me too. I have exceptional results in all bullet weights with H4895. Temp stable too. IMR however is not as temp stable in swings.

  • @drdes9609
    @drdes9609 2 роки тому +1

    Just found this old one from you. I figure if you can use lever for some hunting loads 223, 6mm arc, 6.5 Grendel, 7.62 x 39 and your 30-30 that’s pretty versatile.

    • @armedfarm3429
      @armedfarm3429 2 місяці тому

      LVR Rocks it in 308 & .17rem also.

  • @ericberry547
    @ericberry547 5 років тому

    Hey Johnny.
    I love the channel full of good information especially on the mark 262 series very interested to see what your velocities were again with Varget as I retrieved much higher velocities with an 18-inch barrel in Lake City brass,coco 200 primers. Two of my loads we're 24 grains of Varget 2811 ft per second standard deviation of 10 and extreme spread of 13 with no pressure signs. This is an 18 inch barrel with a 1 in 7 twist and it's a Wylie chamber. Keep up the good work love watching the videos!

  • @stompinmcallister1312
    @stompinmcallister1312 7 років тому

    Thank you brother have some leverevolution and going to use this data is is kinda funny they don't have data in the hornady manual or on hodgdon sight either

  • @markii6831
    @markii6831 7 років тому +2

    Would it ever be a possibility to try out a Bear Creek Arsenal 223 Wylde or an 6.5 Grendel barrel in the future?

  • @SAGunNut
    @SAGunNut 7 років тому

    Think you will have fun with the 75gr Hornady. I'm running those in 3 Gun with 22.8gr AR-Comp seated to 2.260" with CCI #400, LC Brass and getting 2770 in an 18" AR Stoner barrel. Easily shoots Sub MOA and flies extremely flat. Looking forward to that video.

  • @shanerhodes925
    @shanerhodes925 7 років тому +2

    And that 2000 Mr that's strange I've heard of some screaming velocity out of that powder in 223 and 308 ice been wanting to try it out in 308 with some 150gr Sierra bullets for a hunting load

    • @christopherelmer30
      @christopherelmer30 7 років тому +1

      I use 2000-mr in my 308.
      And it screams... 168 grain amax got them up to 2856fps and I'm like 1.5 grains from max with the Hornady book.

    • @itvnz
      @itvnz 7 років тому

      Can I ask how long is your barrel ?

    • @shanerhodes925
      @shanerhodes925 7 років тому

      Nice velocity for sure any of the same luck with tac I just picked up a pound of that too really looking forward to trying that in 308 too

    • @christopherelmer30
      @christopherelmer30 7 років тому

      Custom 700 with a 24-inch Schneider Barrel

    • @christopherelmer30
      @christopherelmer30 7 років тому +1

      I love Varget for my 308 but it's slow.. most I can get is about 2756fps with it but very very accurate

  • @VitoBb1978
    @VitoBb1978 6 років тому

    JRB 24.7 Gr's of LVR had some vertical stringing, which not a good sign. But it has a SD of 4.5 which is a good sign.

    • @TrumpsEarBandage
      @TrumpsEarBandage Рік тому

      What would cause the vertical stringing if the SD is so low?

  • @YukarisGearReviews
    @YukarisGearReviews 7 років тому +1

    Hey Johnny...
    Two questions. First, when will we see an H335 video for the 77 grain? Next, what powder that you've tested so far would be best for the 77 grain bullet in a 16" barrel? AR Comp I imagine? I'm chasing mostly velocity, I can do with 1 MOA.

  • @harpoon1harpoon175
    @harpoon1harpoon175 7 років тому +2

    Getting back into reloading after a 30 year break! And that was almost exclusively pistol reloading. So, I apologize if this is a silly question..... Wouldn't it be better to choose a slightly "bigger" group with the lowest SD, rather than choosing the "tightest" group, that actually has one of the highest SD? At only 100 yds is one thing but, out at distance, say 6-800 yds. Isnt that high SD going to kill the groups?

    • @kidddogbites
      @kidddogbites 2 роки тому

      thats actually a really good point

  • @shaunkitsu9825
    @shaunkitsu9825 7 років тому +3

    Is that a chamber chiller? Sorry didn't hear you mention it. If so do you notice a major difference in cool down time between groups? Thanks for 28 minutes outta my day that I can enjoy! Lol

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому

      Chamber Chiller video was posted earlier this week ua-cam.com/video/02IoB1E4Mpc/v-deo.html

  • @reloadrefine
    @reloadrefine Рік тому

    I was thinking on your video part 1 the 2000MR might be the powder they originally used. I disassembled some BH 223 myself and believe it has the same powder as the 556 and also found after dissasembly of the barnes 556 vortx, it uses the same powder as the BH 223. Have you dialed in which powder is the BH factory powder? Is it the 2520 you originally thought or is the 2000mr a consideration? May I ask what is your conclusion? Thanks Johnny @Johnny’s Reloading Bench

    • @reloadrefine
      @reloadrefine Рік тому

      By the way the BH .223 had 23.6 grains in the factory load.
      Barnes .556 70 grain tsx had 26.1 compressed.

  • @bertkilborne6464
    @bertkilborne6464 7 місяців тому

    I had a .358 Win that I ended up selling, unfortunately.
    Anyhow - I bought some LVR because it was the only thingI could find at the time.
    And using 200gr Barnes Bullets , It shot groups that my .308 envied .
    And it wasn't a fluke because I was setting up my scope using 4 shot groups and the target showed 3 groups of 4 shots all (almost) touching.
    ane group High/Left, 2nd group High, 3rd group bullseye.
    at 100 yd.
    Not BSing

  • @wishiwasinidaho4780
    @wishiwasinidaho4780 3 роки тому

    Does anyone else seem to have far more problems trying to seat Federal primers in 1st pocket reamed brass? CCIs just seem to work much better on newly reamed Lake City for me.

  • @VitoBb1978
    @VitoBb1978 6 років тому

    JRB 2000MR with 25.7 grs with a SD of 10.8 was your best group of the day, followed by 26.0 gr with a SD of 13.4

  • @WestDesertShooter
    @WestDesertShooter 7 років тому +1

    Which primers did JRB use in this video? And Reloader 15 is supposed to be pretty good for the 75-77 bullets

    • @jeffyoung2089
      @jeffyoung2089 7 років тому

      West Desert Shooter cci 41

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 7 років тому +1

      If the bullet can be loaded to mag length in an AR10 or an AR15 you can use RL15 to good effect. You can drive 55 to 77 grain grain bullets to NATO spec velocities with RL15. You can also drive 150 to 175 grain 30 caliber bullets in the AR10 to proper velocities with the same powder. Powders like RL15 CFE223, TAC, AA2520 are very flexible in this regard. Also, because they are all ball powders, they will meter from progressive presses like the Dillon XL650 and the Hornady Lock-n-load progressive very well.

    • @WestDesertShooter
      @WestDesertShooter 7 років тому +2

      rdsii64 I have some RL15 and it’s definitely extruded. Thanks for the feedback!

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 7 років тому

      West Desert Shooter My bad. I thought RL15 was a ball powder. The rest of them are though

  • @txarmory2394
    @txarmory2394 7 років тому

    I have gotten many more reloads using LC brass than what you seem to have gotten. I use CCI small rifle primers and have never had a problem with loose primers. Try some of those CCI primers in that “old” LC brass.

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +2

      I have also gotten many reloads from LC brass (10+ with normal pressure loads). Those were CCI primers I was popping out by hand. You underestimate the extremely high pressures we're shooting in this series.

  • @railgunner3295
    @railgunner3295 Рік тому

    Any chance you’ve stumbled across load data for 762x39 for the 2000 MR?

  • @craig243ful
    @craig243ful 7 років тому +1

    yes i was wondering about the ELDs to i miss the amaxs

  • @allenbadgley2184
    @allenbadgley2184 Рік тому

    Any one tried big game powder in the 223 75-77 gr ? I looked for load data ,did not find anything.

  • @stephenknecht7189
    @stephenknecht7189 4 роки тому

    Hey johnny. Im new at loading .223. I bought a lb of reloader 10x by alliant and I got 77 grain smk with federal small rifle primers..i cant find any info on loading that recipe. Cant you give me any insight on what I should try

  • @gregrichardson2528
    @gregrichardson2528 7 років тому

    I'm interested to see how those 73 grain ELDs work for you. I shoot high power and tried 200 of them and couldn't get them to group worth a damn out of my 1:7 WOA 20" barrel. Went back to my 77 gr SMK & Nosler CC. I tried the 75 gr too seated about .008 off the lands and was not impressed with those either.

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +1

      I shot them today so the video will be on Patreon tomorrow and UA-cam as soon as the monetization review finishes. Probably on Sunday.

  • @mapled3135
    @mapled3135 7 років тому +2

    Never had a primer detonate while priming?

  • @shauntucker5145
    @shauntucker5145 7 років тому +2

    How well did you think the chamber chiller worked

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +1

      Jury is still out. It seems to work. Air goes through, so it can't be hurting.

  • @tier1armorychannel53
    @tier1armorychannel53 7 років тому

    HEY JOHNNY
    THE PRIMER POCKETS ARE WEARING OUT PREMATURLY BECAUSE YOU GRIND THE POCKETS INSTEAD OF SWAGING, WE RAN INTO THE SAME THING TILL WE WENT TO SWAGING INSTEAD OF USING A TRIMMING OR GRINDING METHOD.

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +1

      I do not ream the primer pockets. The RCBS Military Crimp remover tool only removes the crimp area. You underestimate the extremely high pressure loads we're shooting in this series. Normal pressure is generally 10+ reloads with LC no problem.

    • @tier1armorychannel53
      @tier1armorychannel53 7 років тому

      I get the high pressure with the series, but think about it when you grind/ scrape with your method you are removing brass = removing support for the primer pocket that removed brass was the previous support for the primer. if you swage the pocket it takes the crimp and puts it back into its support role / restores the integrity of the case . if the brass is removed the support is compromised. We are both missing the point that with these pressures in this series is exactly why there are crimps in the first place. :) Thanks again Bro for all you do, we salute you Sir.

  • @alaincote9337
    @alaincote9337 2 роки тому

    recette pour 223 55 gr est elle possible si oui min et max svp

  • @ribak1983
    @ribak1983 7 років тому +2

    Good video bro

  • @danielmaine45
    @danielmaine45 2 роки тому

    Where do you find LC brass to buy?

  • @iamnitrox
    @iamnitrox 3 роки тому

    I got 8 lbs of LVR and I'm finding it works awesome in 6.5 Grendel as well as my Lever gun rounds like 35 Rem

    • @kidddogbites
      @kidddogbites 2 роки тому

      Yeah this stuff is a hidden gem really. It loves heavy projectile 223 and 308 win. works well in 7.62x54r, 303brit, 30-06, and of course 30-30. I really haven't found a rifle cartridge in my inventory i couldn't get decent results with it. Its become my go to rifle powder to stock.

    • @iamnitrox
      @iamnitrox 2 роки тому

      @@kidddogbites It's a little dirty, from what I have seen, but the soot is fine and not gritty. Just needs a good wipe after shooting. I think it's the same formula as CFE223, but without the cleaning agent

    • @kidddogbites
      @kidddogbites 2 роки тому

      @@iamnitrox Thats a popular misconception that its the same as CFE223 without the copper cleaner. It is indeed a different formula. The same myth went around about CFE223 being the same thing as BL-C(2) when cfe223 first came out. Just because they're both ball powders close to eachother on the burn chart doesn't mean they're the same thing. I run into pressure faster with CFE than i do LVR. Can usually get higher velocities with the LVR. Your mileage may vary though.

  • @knowmoregods
    @knowmoregods 7 років тому

    Have you tested the rcbs x dies? Wondered how you feel about the trim back 1.740 on 223 for the x dies?

  • @craftsman89d92
    @craftsman89d92 7 років тому

    Y not stick upper in freezer for cold weather groups lol

  • @marcrobert2603
    @marcrobert2603 7 років тому

    What is best expanding/exploding bullet? For (against) fox, to be sure that bullet doesn't continues after hit. Vmax Hornady40 grn was very bad. Nosler was far better exploding. So other's better in experience?

    • @MrPaco1013
      @MrPaco1013 7 років тому +1

      marc robert
      Try the 55gr. Blitz king. Works very well on coyote.

    • @marcrobert2603
      @marcrobert2603 7 років тому +1

      Tomorrow i allready get 10 pieces of them to try. So thanks for confirmation

    • @armedfarm3429
      @armedfarm3429 2 роки тому

      Try the Speer 52 gr Big Mouth, the 52 gr Match shoots great too, but it's a slow expander.

  • @MrPaco1013
    @MrPaco1013 7 років тому

    Hey those 73gr. ELD's look like they would make some good butt kickers. I've wanted to try them because I think that's the heaviest I can go with a 1 in 9 twist. Interested to see how they do.

    • @turbonium96
      @turbonium96 7 років тому +1

      MrPaco1013 I've seen quite a few 1-9 stabilize and shoot accurately 77 smk

    • @Ohio_Motonaut
      @Ohio_Motonaut 7 років тому +1

      I bought a box of factory 73 ELD's that shot horrible with terrible SD's, like I'm talking 40... This was out of an 18" Ballistic Advantage .223 Wylde barrel. Might have just been a bad batch but I expected a lot more from Hornady.

    • @MrPaco1013
      @MrPaco1013 7 років тому

      Sbjr31 Good to know. I'll have to try some and see how they do. I've heard BTHP's will stabilize but the tipped mach kings are to long. Thanks for the info will try

    • @MrPaco1013
      @MrPaco1013 7 років тому

      Sig _nified
      Thanks for the info but I haven't bought a box of factory ammo in 20 years. If I do try them I will be reloading. Good to know not to waste my money on the factory stuff.

    • @turbonium96
      @turbonium96 7 років тому +2

      The key is you have to push them fast enough

  • @MrVictornistor
    @MrVictornistor 7 років тому

    I'm alittle late on the videos have you tried H335?

  • @forgiven21BM
    @forgiven21BM 7 років тому

    Am I the only one who thought, when he was trying to think of the difference between cfe223 and leverevolution, “cfe” is the main difference, man!”

  • @Forumrida38621
    @Forumrida38621 3 роки тому

    I love your videos man!! What paper is that, that you use for targets? And size wise please

    • @duckslayer11000
      @duckslayer11000 3 роки тому +1

      Go to a dollar general or dollar tree and get the two sheets for $1 poster board. Don't put your dots on the glossy side unless you want a sheen when the sun hits it.

    • @Forumrida38621
      @Forumrida38621 3 роки тому +2

      @@duckslayer11000 I ended up just ordering 14 x 19 cardstock from Amazon traced a set of lines out for 2 rows of 5 targets each and then photocopied em works great!

  • @andrewvanmeter4687
    @andrewvanmeter4687 7 років тому

    what about hornady superformance?

  • @thisislongbecausetheothern8657
    @thisislongbecausetheothern8657 7 років тому

    Love your work and your generally analytical nature. I don’t think you leave anything on the table.
    I have found that logarithmic trend lines are a better fit for velocity prediction in various barrel lengths. I know you like to use linear trend lines when graphing but give a logarithmic one a try sometime.
    To that end, I x-y graphed your velocities vs charge weight of 2000-MR, inserted a logarithmic trend line (which was the best fit vs a linear one), and had it give me the equation for the trend line. This equation gives me an estimate of 26.53 grains for 2757 f/s. FYI, you might blow your face off.

  • @chardeemacdennis2electricb329
    @chardeemacdennis2electricb329 5 років тому

    Did you ever inspect the gun?

  • @thomasherbert5790
    @thomasherbert5790 7 років тому +1

    Isn't Leverevolution the same as Win. 748, or very close..

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому

      I haven't seen anyone claim that, but I'll give them a sniff and see how they compare. They are all right next to one another on the burn rate chart. 748/blc2/cfe223/lvr

    • @thomasherbert5790
      @thomasherbert5790 7 років тому

      Thank You Sir, And please let me know what you find out

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 7 років тому

    Try N140 with 77’s and N133 with 55’s

  • @aussiek2000
    @aussiek2000 7 років тому

    What is the device you keep sticking in the ejection port?

    • @me2bfc
      @me2bfc 3 роки тому

      Probably his chamber chiller. It's a little fan that is supposed to keep the chamber cool and reduce wait time between batches of loads.

  • @zoggy2
    @zoggy2 7 років тому +1

    Any thoughts of getting a 25-45 Sharps barrel and doing some reloading for it?

  • @Talex-jb8bp
    @Talex-jb8bp 7 років тому

    M855a1 runs at 62,000 PSI

  • @fishrrelaxing9361
    @fishrrelaxing9361 7 років тому

    I think you need to rerun your load data. Yes the mk12 is 18” barrel and the mk262 was designed specifically for it.. however you are forgetting that it’s a DI system. Burn rates and charges are going to be slightly off cause the gas port is bleeding off pressure which to me explains why you are having some velocity issues. IMO it would be better to select powder for a 90+ % burn for the length of the gas system length not the barrel length. You went about this as if you were shooting a bolt action not a DI. You are loosing pressure between port and muzzle. If I’m right you’re entire powder selection is a little too slow on the burn and you need something hotter.

  • @craig243ful
    @craig243ful 7 років тому +5

    can you do a one time donation? cause i always dont have money for a monthy thing

    • @JohnnysReloadingBench
      @JohnnysReloadingBench  7 років тому +1

      Yes! Paypal link is always in the description: www.paypal.me/JRBdonate

  • @glen4130
    @glen4130 4 роки тому +1

    Come on man, make some new videos!

  • @jefferyboring4410
    @jefferyboring4410 Рік тому

    I reload steel case ak with boxer drill the flash and I peen the crimp hole so it’ll squeeze the primer in the over size hole!! So Maby u don’t have too have too throw that brass away. ? I’d peen it and shoot it a few more loads.

  • @Talex-jb8bp
    @Talex-jb8bp 7 років тому

    H380