Subbed, this guide is really well put together, one of the best guides I have seen, it's very clean, and is simple and easy to understand, and follow. Only thing missing would be some kind of timetable in the beginning of the video. keep up the good work.
Awesome guide buddy, the effort you put into this really shows! - Putting some text to accompany the pictures of the gems and gear would go a long way :)
I love this build. I have most recommended gear together (except im not using atziri's step) and everything is melting. I got me my first shaper kill! Im at 154/159 atlas completion, 23/40 challenges and am approaching 250 in delve. Thanks!
Great work as usual! I'm literally gonna play this build now my Wave of Conviction league starter wasn't cool like I was hoping so I relate to that opener so well. Thanks!
I usually dont like video guides. They are harder to refer back to. This guide however is great. You spend enough time talking about each segment that it's easy to find. I'm still leveling but I'm flying through the game. Appreciate the effort you put into this
Interesting take on the WORB, but i am not "sold" on cast speed. You can always hit less often but much harder. The gear in PoB also has some astronomical values and very expensive gear. Much much expensive than in my build for example. Non-crit is also pretty bad dps for any non-dot spells.. (my opinion) Still interesting to see alternative variation! And holy shit dude the editing and your speech are just so good. An absolute pleasure to watch and listen!
Thanks for the kind words as always! I agree on the PoB stuff, I really need to tone down my placeholder gear that I stick in there before I publish the pastebin haha. Btw, I've been getting into Spectres a lot lately, so I wanted to thank you for your awesome "spectres review" series that's been helping me out A LOT these past few days :)
Hi Nathan, my question was along the same lines about whether you could have a slight variability in the build to add spell critical chance/multiplier. Maybe grab like the Nimbleness node etc...
So I wanted to try some extra damage on my Storm Brand Inquisitor and I tried Winter Orb. Nowadays, I mostly just run about with Winter Orb on a 4L because it's enough for tier 5 maps (where I am) and rarely need to brand anything but bosses .. I can only imagine the damage output of this thing with a proper build. Great guide Nathan!! Thanks!
I had so little time to play PoE this league so I´m 90 worb. I followed some guide, but your looks much cooler. With cast speed it looks so smooth. Thanks for the video
Hey Nathan - I went for Gooby's build based on your recommendation. I'm finding some of the gear reqs to break my balls. This would have been a pretty tidy mid way point, but i feel like im not too far into to turn back. I like your take on it I think, and would def be cheaper to run, and looks to be performing quite highly at end game!
Definitely a build I'll have to give a try, once the PS4 version launches tomorrow. This guide is quite helpful, very much appreciated. Liked and subbed. I what beginner weapons and armor do you recommend to begin with when first starting?
I guess it's the standard: 2xLifesprig, Wanderlust/Victario's Flight, Tabula Rasa, Asenath's Mark, Lochtonial Caress. Bated Breath at level 22 if ES, else Belt of the Deceiver.
With the change of the skill tree and infused channeling I think we got a buff for Winter Orb. Also did a build guide about this in both 3.5 and 3.6, but im not doing it quite the same way. Tryied cold to fire under optimal conditions in pob and you are probobly better of using an other gem. Also conc effect is going to make the overlapping of dmg much less likely to happen, yes it will pump up your pob numbers but in reality its not. Would love some feedback:) Thanks for the video.
Cold to fire definitely seems like a good choice IMO and lets herald of ash actually do some work (I really don't think any other gem comes close, but feel free to show me otherwise). I also think we can get away with conc effect because of how much AoE we get on the tree, but controlled destruction would be a good alternative if you are worried about your AoEs not overlapping enough.
Greetings! I startet a Elementalist. I was going for g00fy_goobers build. I was level 52 and saw your video and respecct from g00fys build into yours. And I'm loving it! It is insanly fast! I'm really excited to get this to endgame! Keep up your great work! Subed and liked already ;-) Have a good one!
Could you add time stamps in descryption for this? :) I'm new player and following this build is kinda tricky sometimes when I'm looking for something specyfic.
Why cold to fire, exactly? And not like other more typical stuff like Hypothermia or something? Also, why HoA as well? I see "most" builds using HoI and HoT (sometimes not even HoT) with Ice Bite on HoI and curse on hit warlords or wahtever on the HoT? What are your thoughts on that?
Cold to fire is more damage for this build. Maybe people just want to shatter more reliably with the pure cold version, but running cold to fire allows to us use herald of ash (it would do literally nothing for this build otherwise) which is a significant damage boost. Ice bite with herald of ice is fine but unnecessary especially when you get the green nightmare. Warlord's mark with herald of thunder is fine but you'd need to not use temp chains or figure out how to fit +1 curse in. All the changes you suggested are viable- I just didn't think of or choose to use them myself.
@@nathanbrotherbob According to the pob and my build setup , I find that running Hypothermia has higher dps compare to Cold to Fire + ash (it also saves me 22% mana reservation so I can run Zealoustry). Maybe is because I run Circle of Fear on my left ring instead of using the typical Mark of the Shaper (honestly Circle of Fear is very op with no requirement whatsoever. You can even try to get an op implicit base through synthesis that has elemental % damage bonus), so my build benefit more from cold dm.
@@nathanbrotherbob That's fair. I haven't gotten to try HoA + C2F just yet, as my sockets are acting up, but I guess I'll try it myself to see how it feels. I do think it might be a "problem" if it isn't shattering as reliant as with the pure cold though, as shattering/freezing enemies is a very good defense on its own. But thanks for your answer, very much appreciated. And I do believe I'll try out the armageddon brand single target solution you got going instead of the vaalBV, cus as you said, it works wonders for the phasing bosses which there are a lot of these days. So thanks for that tip!
Cool video! FYI, mbXtreme is currently building an Eternity Shroud Winter Orb build... looks pretty cool. Question, you think it's still possible to get adequate amounts of Cast Speed with Trickster start? You kinda lose out on all those witch nodes but gain some elemental damage instead. I like Trickster for all the sustain and EB MoM.
Hey Nathan, thanks fror the guide! i used it to kill UE for the first time, but im really struggeling to make it tanky for a solid 100 push. Some advice on that or a follow up video would be wonderful! thanks!
As a super noob. The way you can explain builds is very helpful. After going thru a tecttonic build oni goroshi the degen has been terible. This new build is helpful
dont play this build is super expensive m8, u need best chest in game, and u need it 6 LINKED, AND also u need Dying sun, most expensive flask in game also
don't think this is a serious question but he presses his flasks ofc, he presses M5 for flamedas and holds right click once upon a time to charge winter orb, while pressing E to run faster and Q to help with bosses
@@Coldie_B thanks. i just didnt understand how to get stacks of winter orb. i get 10 stacks and they go away in like 2 seconds. i died many times trying to channel while standing still and finally gave up. but i guess i need extend duration gems or passives.
Great video. Love the build. My only concern/suggestion is changing out infused channeling as 99% of the time, I wont be channeling long enough to activate the perk. I know its largely for the damage reduction as well as decent damage buff, but if I'm mobile most of the time I dont need to worry about the reduced damage and there are better gems for extra dps. Thoughts?
Awesome guide! Could you touch a bit on why you run cold to fire? Beeb following random people on poe.ninja and most run hypothermia. Running a 5l inpulsa for the time being, what would you recommend as the 5 to prioritize? Thanks, will try switching some things up when I get home
Great guide man. Fastest I've ever leveled any character by far. What piece of gear should I drop the first chunk of currency on? Should I grab the inpulsa's and try to 6L it or get the ammy and the other rare gear first?
I had little faith in that build when I got facerolled by T6 bosses and mobs. I said fuck it and gave it a go again, but with my items and gems. -Two wands with added cold dmg to spells + a lot of spell dmg (1 chaos each) -Shapped helmet with added cold dmg + 110 life (20 chaos) -Mark of the shaper + some elder ring boosting my damages ( 45 chaos for shaper, 15 for elder) -Shapped amulet with area dmg + radius (10 chaos) -Some gloves and boots with at least 100 life and resistances (20 chaos each) -Stygian wise with good life and resistances, jewel with life + spell dmg + cold dmg (20 chaos each) -Carcass jack 6L (4 exalted) Gems : Winter Orb - Infused Channeling - GMP - Controlled Destruction - Cold to fire - Life leech Lightning Golem - Minion resistances - Minion life CWDT - Immortal Call - Enfeeble - Increased duration Flame dash - Faster casting Herald of ash - Herald of ice - Herald of lightning - Enlighten (very optional, I like having more room to breathe with my mana) Oh boy. I went from struggling to even clear T6 maps with easy mods to killing the shaper for the first time ever. For a 5-5.5 exalted investment, this build is a blast. I am not using good items, my wands are horrible, yet I can stomp everything like they didn't even exist. Cast speed is good, but I think getting it everywhere is overkill. I felt no difference when I removed my faster casting lv20 and left the slot empty. Also, it works well with a tabula, no need for that fancy armor. That reduces the cost of the build to 1 exalted. Shaper kills for 1 exalted, count me in. Thank you man, you helped me find that build, and I like it a damn lot
@@nathanbrotherbob you think there is any winter orb build in 3.7 or is slower non-channeling casts its death? Ive heard other streamers say its a viable skill still. Thx for response in advance.
@Nathan Walker New player here. Great guide! I didnt understand why your build uses the passive Blood Drinker? Specifcally how does the 0.4% of Attack Damage Leeched as Life benefit the build? Im sure Im missing something and hopefully I can learn something! Thanks!
Thanks for recommending Faster Casting gem in the link. Checked the Pob, compare to cold pen, I only lose around 10k damage, but now my cast time to get 10 stack of wo is even faster, plus they're firing more rapidly = trigger my on hit heal more frequently. Abit suggestion here, you can try using the new unique ring that buff Herald effect (60%cold damage and 100% herald of ice effect, even more powerful than Mark of the Shaper) , so now you can use a shaper ring to get on hit heal for spell. It is even more useful than leeching against bosses. Also yes, I stop using warlord mark ring because it is not needed, and has other source of leeching from other stuffs. I can run curse on hit Enfeeble/ Temp chain instead for even more safety.
Hey Nathan, Great video, I just switched to this build and it feels way smoother than the way I had it set up before. I have a question though. I'm at the point where I can buy one or more of the more expensive uniques. Would you recommend Grabbing an Inpulsa's first or the combo or Solstice Vigil and Dying sun? I have enough currency to do one or the other and I don't know what the better option would be. Currently running a tabula rasa. Also, if I could only 5-link the Inpulsa's, which of the support gems for WO is least important? Thanks
I’m having a shitty league so far, I was thinking about rerolling for Winter Orb since I didn’t play it last league, I guess your video is a sign of what I must do, thanks!
I m using a shaper glove with built in Faster Casting and Slower projectiles, no wonder i felt the ice projectiles shooting half slower than yours/other people's Winter Orb. I m a total noob in mechanics but how different does this differ to your setup with the last gem being different (concentrated effect vs Slower projectiles)?
Well conc effect is way more damage in PoB, but I think many people don't use it because they are concerned with the AoE's not overlapping enough. I personally don't think that's an issue if you invest enough in AoE on the tree or are elementalist (this build has both), but if you want a middle ground between slower proj and conc effect you can use controlled destruction which is another viable option.
@@nathanbrotherbob I think you don't need that much more dps in mapping, so conc is not needed. The bigger aoe is better for mapping in general. Just put in as reserved gem and swap in when fighting against tough bosses. (probably swap out control destruction)
So I heard your argument on Faster Casting and can see how that would be beneficial. Why cold to fire over something like Hypothermia? I figured Hypothermia is one of the best damage supports for WO. I thought it applied to the first hit so mobs don't have to be chilled first to gain the damage? Also freezing. I assume you use CTF for the benefit to conversion to chaos and herald of ash so I don't really know what is best but Hypothermia just seems so good
Cold to fire is significantly more damage if you are using herald of ash and stack a fair amount of flat cold damage (both of which this build aims to do). Hypothermia does have the nice defensive benefit of freezing more often, but elementalist already gives us enough of that IMO. I would almost assuredly run hypothermia with any and every other ascendancy, but in this case it's the best choice for DPS by a pretty hefty margin.
hmm why go for herald of thunder besides the flashy effects?, i checked on PoB and you only get 1k dps out of it, you could drop it and ease up on the mana cost reduction rings but i guess the lightning bolts will help with clearspeed, also why go the pendulum route 1st over conflux is it to go triple herald asap and clear as fast as possible?
If I can squeeze a Pyre ring into this would it be beneficial enough to justify the ring slot? I figure it'd be great for Herald of Ash / non-chaos as extra chaos , but enough to justify idk.
Looks fun, but as a POE beginner who plays rather casually I'm just not getting it. What gear am I supposed to put all that gems in? Whereever most of the showed gems fit at once? The leveling process is rather tedious when your setup just doesn't let you use the stuff the guides are talking about. Let's say, what's the minimum gear to use winter orb at level 28 without it being a pain in the butt? Or is everything in poe just about paining through to endgame? A build requiring tabula rasa isn't really beginner friendly. O.o
on the contrary, tabula is incredibly beginner friendly, its easily target farmed over a few hours in Blood Aquaducts. It's one of the most accessible uniques in the game!
@@gamercorehop Well, seems I gotta take another look into this kind of (obviously) basic stuff. I'm still kinda overwhelmed and try to find my way around. Maybe I'm trying too hard to replicate endgame setups, so that I get frustrated too early.
@@epischewurststullederverda1483 you only need a 4 link to progress all the way to maps. If you want you can farm the blood aqeduct for tabula divination cards but its not necessary.
Full mf gear to run high tier content is hard to find or expensive to make. Usually you run mf on lower maps as you will only pick up currency and those maps are cheaper to sustain. Unless you invest a lot into increased quantity gear, you won't have anything from it.
Hey, Im always indecisive when it comes to the 6-link Winterorb setup: I'm currently following Ghazzys guide, as CI occultist: Winterorb - Controlled Destruction - Conc Effect - Lesser MP - Added Cold Dmg - Inc Duration What could/should I change? Also I heard that with GMP + Dying Sun the projectiles become too many against bosses which will cause quite a few to miss and fly nowhere, is that true? Great Guide btw! Keep it up man!
I've seen a lot of people use cold to fire in this build and i don't understand why, isn't it better to focus on 1 elemental damage type and get penetration for it?
It's because this build is played as an Elementalist and the ascendancy node Mastermind of Discord gives you 25% damage penetration of each element, assuming you are using the 3 elemental heralds, which you are in this case. So Cold to Fire is definitely worth it.
You said its impossible to do elemental reflect maps but you never specified your last 2 ascendancy points or why you think that taking beacon of ruin is so incredibly crucial to the build and absolutely unswappable for paragon of calamity which would give you immunity to elemental reflect ? And even leech so you could do without the fire leech on ring ?
Beacon of ruin is absolutely essential to this build because of the minimum shock values it provides, and the elemental proliferation makes clearing a breeze. You can go paragon of calamity if you want to save some currency and be able to run more maps, but expect the upper damage scaling and overall clear speed of the build to be severely gimped.
Tried angry roleplayer's Worb buildguide that prob has more endgame dps (dont know yet, but it was critbased and 1mil dps on PoB) but it felt very clunky and slow for mid game, didnt have duration nodes so had to stop all the time, then respecced to this one and its sooooo much faster at least in mid game with mediocre gear. thanks for this!
Seems about right, don’t forget that he built the char in standard with GG gear in all slots. Crit get better than non crit yes, but you need a lot of investment into gear for it to feel good.
@@sirmoke9646 Thanks "Sir", incredibly helpful response! Glad you saw through my small error to leave this informative, detailed, yet concise pearl of wisdom from which I will no doubt learn to lead a better life. Really, kudos for your input, you're a star, man.
I picked up Winter Orb for the first time this league and it is crazy strong.. I did my first shaper kill last night, Even Deathless! :) And from my experience so far ( level 95 ), You don't need a singel target setup at all?
Doesn't matter where you have it, and according to PoB I only have 18% mana unreserved, which is more than enough considering the mana cost of winter orb after the proper "- total mana of skills" crafts is literally zero.
@@nathanbrotherbob it def reserves more mana if you have gems inside the gear, on my gloves as is, it reserves 22% mana and if i put in a lvl 20 inc duration it goes to 31% mana reserved for aspect of the spider
Subbed, this guide is really well put together, one of the best guides I have seen, it's very clean, and is simple and easy to understand, and follow. Only thing missing would be some kind of timetable in the beginning of the video. keep up the good work.
I don't understand how you only have 9k subs. Great work
U made me sub to him, bruh
ive tried 3 worb builds and almost gave up until yours. so much fun and so easy to play with arthritic hands like mine bravo sir
This is exactly the type of guide that a beginner can handle and easily follow along. Good job!
Awesome guide buddy, the effort you put into this really shows! - Putting some text to accompany the pictures of the gems and gear would go a long way :)
More of these please, they are great!
I love winter orb. its very powerful with middle of the road gear. I'm trying your gem setup and its pretty fun.
Only been playing a couple of months and this build is fun and easy to understand. A little squishy at lvl 72 but I'm still learning. Thanks so much!
This video came out at a really fitting time! Well done.
Very well put together guide! I can't wait to see more videos in the future
Wow, this is awesome!!! Thanks, didn't realize how epic cast speed could be for WO
I love this build. I have most recommended gear together (except im not using atziri's step) and everything is melting. I got me my first shaper kill! Im at 154/159 atlas completion, 23/40 challenges and am approaching 250 in delve. Thanks!
Great work as usual! I'm literally gonna play this build now my Wave of Conviction league starter wasn't cool like I was hoping so I relate to that opener so well. Thanks!
Nate amazing video I love ur videos easy to understand for beginners they are above the rest, good job!
Thanks for crediting me in your video! Cast speed is definitely the way to go ;)
impressively put together build guide. very nice
I usually dont like video guides. They are harder to refer back to. This guide however is great. You spend enough time talking about each segment that it's easy to find. I'm still leveling but I'm flying through the game. Appreciate the effort you put into this
Loved the video, BUT, the only thing I didn't like was that there WAS NO Closed Caption. 75yr old here, I need this.
Interesting take on the WORB, but i am not "sold" on cast speed. You can always hit less often but much harder. The gear in PoB also has some astronomical values and very expensive gear. Much much expensive than in my build for example. Non-crit is also pretty bad dps for any non-dot spells.. (my opinion) Still interesting to see alternative variation! And holy shit dude the editing and your speech are just so good. An absolute pleasure to watch and listen!
Thanks for the kind words as always! I agree on the PoB stuff, I really need to tone down my placeholder gear that I stick in there before I publish the pastebin haha. Btw, I've been getting into Spectres a lot lately, so I wanted to thank you for your awesome "spectres review" series that's been helping me out A LOT these past few days :)
@@nathanbrotherbob You are most welcome!! and WTF why i am not subbed yet??
I know I'm subbed to you, been watching your stuff since before I started making PoE content :D
Hi Nathan, my question was along the same lines about whether you could have a slight variability in the build to add spell critical chance/multiplier. Maybe grab like the Nimbleness node etc...
Side note, "i'm currently running your build exact build and its great, so by no means critique but simply for more insight.
Great build dude keep up the work love your guides
Its absurd how this build is satisfying to see ,at least before play with it xD
Nice guide dude! The build I’m using is very similar and your tips gave me some good ideas thanks for the awesome content!
going to try this , thanks for the guide !
More of these kind of guides plz
So I wanted to try some extra damage on my Storm Brand Inquisitor and I tried Winter Orb. Nowadays, I mostly just run about with Winter Orb on a 4L because it's enough for tier 5 maps (where I am) and rarely need to brand anything but bosses .. I can only imagine the damage output of this thing with a proper build. Great guide Nathan!! Thanks!
You deserve way more subs, you're awesome dude.
I had so little time to play PoE this league so I´m 90 worb. I followed some guide, but your looks much cooler. With cast speed it looks so smooth. Thanks for the video
fantastic guide, thanks
Hey Nathan - I went for Gooby's build based on your recommendation. I'm finding some of the gear reqs to break my balls. This would have been a pretty tidy mid way point, but i feel like im not too far into to turn back.
I like your take on it I think, and would def be cheaper to run, and looks to be performing quite highly at end game!
A Black Hole or Celestial effect for the Orb would be really nice. It would mesh better with some of the herald explosion effects.
Definitely a build I'll have to give a try, once the PS4 version launches tomorrow. This guide is quite helpful, very much appreciated. Liked and subbed. I what beginner weapons and armor do you recommend to begin with when first starting?
I guess it's the standard: 2xLifesprig, Wanderlust/Victario's Flight, Tabula Rasa, Asenath's Mark, Lochtonial Caress. Bated Breath at level 22 if ES, else Belt of the Deceiver.
Great guide
With the change of the skill tree and infused channeling I think we got a buff for Winter Orb. Also did a build guide about this in both 3.5 and 3.6, but im not doing it quite the same way. Tryied cold to fire under optimal conditions in pob and you are probobly better of using an other gem. Also conc effect is going to make the overlapping of dmg much less likely to happen, yes it will pump up your pob numbers but in reality its not. Would love some feedback:) Thanks for the video.
Cold to fire definitely seems like a good choice IMO and lets herald of ash actually do some work (I really don't think any other gem comes close, but feel free to show me otherwise). I also think we can get away with conc effect because of how much AoE we get on the tree, but controlled destruction would be a good alternative if you are worried about your AoEs not overlapping enough.
Nathan when you show the gems on the screen it would be really nice if you also had their name displayed as well
You're not the first person to suggest this, I'll be sure to do so next time.
Greetings! I startet a Elementalist. I was going for g00fy_goobers build. I was level 52 and saw your video and respecct from g00fys build into yours. And I'm loving it! It is insanly fast! I'm really excited to get this to endgame! Keep up your great work! Subed and liked already ;-) Have a good one!
So you completely ignore the entire cold damage meganode to traipse across the tree for 3 dubious nodes?
this is not the only issue there. By far :D
What effect is making those cool space looking explosions?
Celestial herald MTX!
@@nathanbrotherbob Ohh ok thank you. I was thinking it was something to do with Winter orb but couldn't find anything.
Could you add time stamps in descryption for this? :)
I'm new player and following this build is kinda tricky sometimes when I'm looking for something specyfic.
This is amazing. Would this still work for Legion? I was thinking of doing this one as a league starter with a few tweeks
Awesome video, subscribed
Wow just before PlayStation 4 release, thank you very nice :)
Is there a text version of this? I am gonna try this on PS4 but obviously we can't use the stuff that is on PC.
Why cold to fire, exactly? And not like other more typical stuff like Hypothermia or something? Also, why HoA as well? I see "most" builds using HoI and HoT (sometimes not even HoT) with Ice Bite on HoI and curse on hit warlords or wahtever on the HoT? What are your thoughts on that?
Cold to fire is more damage for this build. Maybe people just want to shatter more reliably with the pure cold version, but running cold to fire allows to us use herald of ash (it would do literally nothing for this build otherwise) which is a significant damage boost. Ice bite with herald of ice is fine but unnecessary especially when you get the green nightmare. Warlord's mark with herald of thunder is fine but you'd need to not use temp chains or figure out how to fit +1 curse in.
All the changes you suggested are viable- I just didn't think of or choose to use them myself.
@@nathanbrotherbob According to the pob and my build setup , I find that running Hypothermia has higher dps compare to Cold to Fire + ash (it also saves me 22% mana reservation so I can run Zealoustry). Maybe is because I run Circle of Fear on my left ring instead of using the typical Mark of the Shaper (honestly Circle of Fear is very op with no requirement whatsoever. You can even try to get an op implicit base through synthesis that has elemental % damage bonus), so my build benefit more from cold dm.
@@nathanbrotherbob That's fair. I haven't gotten to try HoA + C2F just yet, as my sockets are acting up, but I guess I'll try it myself to see how it feels. I do think it might be a "problem" if it isn't shattering as reliant as with the pure cold though, as shattering/freezing enemies is a very good defense on its own. But thanks for your answer, very much appreciated. And I do believe I'll try out the armageddon brand single target solution you got going instead of the vaalBV, cus as you said, it works wonders for the phasing bosses which there are a lot of these days. So thanks for that tip!
How do you have all three herald buffs on and they are not in the skill slot bar?
You don't have to keep skills in your hot-bar to have them activated. This is particularly nice for auras like the heralds
Cool video! FYI, mbXtreme is currently building an Eternity Shroud Winter Orb build... looks pretty cool.
Question, you think it's still possible to get adequate amounts of Cast Speed with Trickster start? You kinda lose out on all those witch nodes but gain some elemental damage instead. I like Trickster for all the sustain and EB MoM.
Hey Nathan, thanks fror the guide! i used it to kill UE for the first time, but im really struggeling to make it tanky for a solid 100 push. Some advice on that or a follow up video would be wonderful! thanks!
As a super noob. The way you can explain builds is very helpful. After going thru a tecttonic build oni goroshi the degen has been terible. This new build is helpful
dont play this build is super expensive m8, u need best chest in game, and u need it 6 LINKED, AND also u need Dying sun, most expensive flask in game also
@@MegaRoFLL i think its okwe all.struggle to get thereid say but we do eventually get there so its fine
Good job 👌
I dont get it, what buttons do you have to press?
don't think this is a serious question but he presses his flasks ofc, he presses M5 for flamedas and holds right click once upon a time to charge winter orb, while pressing E to run faster and Q to help with bosses
@@Coldie_B thanks. i just didnt understand how to get stacks of winter orb. i get 10 stacks and they go away in like 2 seconds. i died many times trying to channel while standing still and finally gave up. but i guess i need extend duration gems or passives.
Just started POE. Loving it so far. Just one question, do you duel wield wands because of the duel wield passive in the skill tree?
That, and it's just more damage than using a shield instead
Great video. Love the build. My only concern/suggestion is changing out infused channeling as 99% of the time, I wont be channeling long enough to activate the perk. I know its largely for the damage reduction as well as decent damage buff, but if I'm mobile most of the time I dont need to worry about the reduced damage and there are better gems for extra dps. Thoughts?
How can you make your winter orb stay so long? It's twice as long as it used to be.
I love aesthetics of winter orb, but I also love spell totems, would it be very different from many spell totems builds?
Awesome guide! Could you touch a bit on why you run cold to fire? Beeb following random people on poe.ninja and most run hypothermia. Running a 5l inpulsa for the time being, what would you recommend as the 5 to prioritize?
Thanks, will try switching some things up when I get home
It's just more damage with herald of ash, and I would probably drop conc effect as your 5L.
Hey, how exactly did u craft your wands? abberanth+aetheric+prismatic? Great job btw, smoothest leveling/early mapping expierience i ever had!
Great guide man. Fastest I've ever leveled any character by far. What piece of gear should I drop the first chunk of currency on? Should I grab the inpulsa's and try to 6L it or get the ammy and the other rare gear first?
I'd honestly prioritize the flask, amulet, and gloves. But up to you!
I had little faith in that build when I got facerolled by T6 bosses and mobs. I said fuck it and gave it a go again, but with my items and gems.
-Two wands with added cold dmg to spells + a lot of spell dmg (1 chaos each)
-Shapped helmet with added cold dmg + 110 life (20 chaos)
-Mark of the shaper + some elder ring boosting my damages ( 45 chaos for shaper, 15 for elder)
-Shapped amulet with area dmg + radius (10 chaos)
-Some gloves and boots with at least 100 life and resistances (20 chaos each)
-Stygian wise with good life and resistances, jewel with life + spell dmg + cold dmg (20 chaos each)
-Carcass jack 6L (4 exalted)
Gems : Winter Orb - Infused Channeling - GMP - Controlled Destruction - Cold to fire - Life leech
Lightning Golem - Minion resistances - Minion life
CWDT - Immortal Call - Enfeeble - Increased duration
Flame dash - Faster casting
Herald of ash - Herald of ice - Herald of lightning - Enlighten (very optional, I like having more room to breathe with my mana)
Oh boy. I went from struggling to even clear T6 maps with easy mods to killing the shaper for the first time ever. For a 5-5.5 exalted investment, this build is a blast. I am not using good items, my wands are horrible, yet I can stomp everything like they didn't even exist.
Cast speed is good, but I think getting it everywhere is overkill. I felt no difference when I removed my faster casting lv20 and left the slot empty.
Also, it works well with a tabula, no need for that fancy armor. That reduces the cost of the build to 1 exalted. Shaper kills for 1 exalted, count me in.
Thank you man, you helped me find that build, and I like it a damn lot
@nathan walker what are you thoughts on this build in 3.7 Legion? Thank you.
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@@nathanbrotherbob you think there is any winter orb build in 3.7 or is slower non-channeling casts its death? Ive heard other streamers say its a viable skill still. Thx for response in advance.
A different ascendancy while still stacking cast speed could be okay, hard to say for sure
@Nathan Walker New player here. Great guide! I didnt understand why your build uses the passive Blood Drinker? Specifcally how does the 0.4% of Attack Damage Leeched as Life benefit the build? Im sure Im missing something and hopefully I can learn something! Thanks!
14% max life for 2 points.
Thanks for recommending Faster Casting gem in the link.
Checked the Pob, compare to cold pen, I only lose around 10k damage, but now my cast time to get 10 stack of wo is even faster, plus they're firing more rapidly = trigger my on hit heal more frequently.
Abit suggestion here, you can try using the new unique ring that buff Herald effect (60%cold damage and 100% herald of ice effect, even more powerful than Mark of the Shaper) , so now you can use a shaper ring to get on hit heal for spell.
It is even more useful than leeching against bosses.
Also yes, I stop using warlord mark ring because it is not needed, and has other source of leeching from other stuffs. I can run curse on hit Enfeeble/ Temp chain instead for even more safety.
Hey, can you give link for this ring? Its a synetesis unic ring right?
@@СпиритоМартини It's called Circle of Fear
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Nathan Walker and all the pros.. Can you please explain to a POE newbie why you would use cold to fire support gem? Would hypothermia be better?
It is more damage if you are using herald of ash, which this build does
@@nathanbrotherbob TYVM.. I understand now. I am grateful for the reply.
Hey Nathan,
Great video, I just switched to this build and it feels way smoother than the way I had it set up before. I have a question though. I'm at the point where I can buy one or more of the more expensive uniques. Would you recommend Grabbing an Inpulsa's first or the combo or Solstice Vigil and Dying sun? I have enough currency to do one or the other and I don't know what the better option would be. Currently running a tabula rasa. Also, if I could only 5-link the Inpulsa's, which of the support gems for WO is least important?
Thanks
Please suggest MF gear ? I am not sure if build can be run by bisco's, sadima's, goldwyrm, thief"s torment or pariah's....
Great build , I was lucky to drop tabula rasa and I'm owning lol . What God's I should chose at pantheon?
Doesn't matter at all, pantheon choices are largely personal preference/encounter specific.
If i want to run with Cerberus+Shield, what parts of my skill tree shall i change?
Check my skill tree, you could use something like this: www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Crazycellist/characters
@@DreamingCellist It looks good
I'll try it with a few variations. Thanks for it!
Which gems makes you not "charge" the winter orb everytime?
I too would like to know.
It's more of having high cast speed and solstice vigil gives shaper's presence a buff that make effects on you last longer.
I’m having a shitty league so far, I was thinking about rerolling for Winter Orb since I didn’t play it last league, I guess your video is a sign of what I must do, thanks!
Hey man nice guide, can you take a look at my pob and tell me what i should work on next? I don't deal as much damage as i suppose i would deal
I m using a shaper glove with built in Faster Casting and Slower projectiles, no wonder i felt the ice projectiles shooting half slower than yours/other people's Winter Orb.
I m a total noob in mechanics but how different does this differ to your setup with the last gem being different (concentrated effect vs Slower projectiles)?
Well conc effect is way more damage in PoB, but I think many people don't use it because they are concerned with the AoE's not overlapping enough. I personally don't think that's an issue if you invest enough in AoE on the tree or are elementalist (this build has both), but if you want a middle ground between slower proj and conc effect you can use controlled destruction which is another viable option.
@@nathanbrotherbob I think you don't need that much more dps in mapping, so conc is not needed. The bigger aoe is better for mapping in general.
Just put in as reserved gem and swap in when fighting against tough bosses. (probably swap out control destruction)
what is the effect the enemies have when they die? looking great (im a kinda poe noobie)
herald (of fire, ice lightning) mtx :) mtx = cash shop graphics for costumes, skills, etc.
sorry if i missed it but what is you're opinion on the pandemonius neck?
Bad for this version of the build (we deal mostly fire damage) but definitely good for others.
@@nathanbrotherbob kk ty
What do you think about shade of solaris? does it worth it?
So I heard your argument on Faster Casting and can see how that would be beneficial. Why cold to fire over something like Hypothermia? I figured Hypothermia is one of the best damage supports for WO. I thought it applied to the first hit so mobs don't have to be chilled first to gain the damage? Also freezing. I assume you use CTF for the benefit to conversion to chaos and herald of ash so I don't really know what is best but Hypothermia just seems so good
Cold to fire is significantly more damage if you are using herald of ash and stack a fair amount of flat cold damage (both of which this build aims to do). Hypothermia does have the nice defensive benefit of freezing more often, but elementalist already gives us enough of that IMO.
I would almost assuredly run hypothermia with any and every other ascendancy, but in this case it's the best choice for DPS by a pretty hefty margin.
how do you move so fast?? and what causes those purple explosions?? great job.
The purple explosions come from the celestial herald mtx.
@@ShiroKarasu120 t/y, so i can buy this in transaction store?
You don't tell where you have the Heralds linked up?
hey nathan what is your opinion on wearing 2 x legacy snakepit ring ( 10% increase cast speed, 40% cold spell, Spell fires an additional projectile. )
Probably fine, tho you'd have to figure out leech from somewhere else.
hmm why go for herald of thunder besides the flashy effects?, i checked on PoB and you only get 1k dps out of it, you could drop it and ease up on the mana cost reduction rings but i guess the lightning bolts will help with clearspeed, also why go the pendulum route 1st over conflux is it to go triple herald asap and clear as fast as possible?
If I can squeeze a Pyre ring into this would it be beneficial enough to justify the ring slot? I figure it'd be great for Herald of Ash / non-chaos as extra chaos , but enough to justify idk.
is Spine of the first claimant iron sceptre good for winter orb build?
How are you able to get these explosions while casting? Is it one lf these gems?
Believe that's Herald proc-ing and he's got the MTX for it as well.
Looks fun, but as a POE beginner who plays rather casually I'm just not getting it.
What gear am I supposed to put all that gems in? Whereever most of the showed gems fit at once? The leveling process is rather tedious when your setup just doesn't let you use the stuff the guides are talking about.
Let's say, what's the minimum gear to use winter orb at level 28 without it being a pain in the butt? Or is everything in poe just about paining through to endgame?
A build requiring tabula rasa isn't really beginner friendly. O.o
on the contrary, tabula is incredibly beginner friendly, its easily target farmed over a few hours in Blood Aquaducts. It's one of the most accessible uniques in the game!
@@gamercorehop Well, seems I gotta take another look into this kind of (obviously) basic stuff. I'm still kinda overwhelmed and try to find my way around.
Maybe I'm trying too hard to replicate endgame setups, so that I get frustrated too early.
@@epischewurststullederverda1483 you only need a 4 link to progress all the way to maps. If you want you can farm the blood aqeduct for tabula divination cards but its not necessary.
. My first build. It is still avaible in 3.9 after past nerfs? For endgame? I hate how slow and short duration WO have now
Great video! You mention a pro is mf gear. Can you explain how to gear, what items would you replace first? Can you run full mf on t16 maps?
Full mf gear to run high tier content is hard to find or expensive to make. Usually you run mf on lower maps as you will only pick up currency and those maps are cheaper to sustain. Unless you invest a lot into increased quantity gear, you won't have anything from it.
The tree you show in the video is different than the tree in PoB...I assume you meant to go don to Phase Acrobatics, but the PoB doesn't show that.
link to how to make that mace? I started playing on ps4. There is so much I am kind of lost
Hey, Im always indecisive when it comes to the 6-link Winterorb setup: I'm currently following Ghazzys guide, as CI occultist:
Winterorb - Controlled Destruction - Conc Effect - Lesser MP - Added Cold Dmg - Inc Duration
What could/should I change?
Also I heard that with GMP + Dying Sun the projectiles become too many against bosses which will cause quite a few to miss and fly nowhere, is that true?
Great Guide btw! Keep it up man!
I do not play the build myself. But if i am correct, you want to use greater multiple projectiles instead of lesser multiple projectiles
@Paul David Lape elemental hit is not a support gem so you cant increase damage on winterorb with it. So yes added cold damage is better ;-)
Question. Why not ele damage on the belt?
I've seen a lot of people use cold to fire in this build and i don't understand why, isn't it better to focus on 1 elemental damage type and get penetration for it?
It's because this build is played as an Elementalist and the ascendancy node Mastermind of Discord gives you 25% damage penetration of each element, assuming you are using the 3 elemental heralds, which you are in this case. So Cold to Fire is definitely worth it.
What are your cosmetics and skill effects?
please and thanks :D
What items would you recommend to get first from the recommended list? dying sun, inpulsa, or solstice?
Dying sun for sure.
You said its impossible to do elemental reflect maps but you never specified your last 2 ascendancy points or why you think that taking beacon of ruin is so incredibly crucial to the build and absolutely unswappable for paragon of calamity which would give you immunity to elemental reflect ? And even leech so you could do without the fire leech on ring ?
Beacon of ruin is absolutely essential to this build because of the minimum shock values it provides, and the elemental proliferation makes clearing a breeze.
You can go paragon of calamity if you want to save some currency and be able to run more maps, but expect the upper damage scaling and overall clear speed of the build to be severely gimped.
Tried angry roleplayer's Worb buildguide that prob has more endgame dps (dont know yet, but it was critbased and 1mil dps on PoB) but it felt very clunky and slow for mid game, didnt have duration nodes so had to stop all the time, then respecced to this one and its sooooo much faster at least in mid game with mediocre gear. thanks for this!
Seems about right, don’t forget that he built the char in standard with GG gear in all slots. Crit get better than non crit yes, but you need a lot of investment into gear for it to feel good.
Is there a point in running Herald of Fire before you have cold to fire conversion?
You mean herald of ash? Yes. Being elementalist and all...
@@sirmoke9646 Thanks "Sir", incredibly helpful response! Glad you saw through my small error to leave this informative, detailed, yet concise pearl of wisdom from which I will no doubt learn to lead a better life. Really, kudos for your input, you're a star, man.
in the passive tree make sure not to take Heartseeker, because Elemental Overload cancels its effect
I just double checked my tree, and it looks like I didn't take heartseeker (which you're right, would have been a mistake)
Is winter orb the thing leaving that celestial looking pool on the ground?
No, that is the celestial herald MTX- you need it on your fire and ice heralds to make the build look like that.
I picked up Winter Orb for the first time this league and it is crazy strong.. I did my first shaper kill last night, Even Deathless! :) And from my experience so far ( level 95 ), You don't need a singel target setup at all?
Why use Cold to Fire Supported ?
am i missing something? how are you fitting in aspect of the spider with x3 heralds, you would have 8% mana unreserved
nvm, i guess you have to have it on a ring, not gloves like i had for my previous character
Doesn't matter where you have it, and according to PoB I only have 18% mana unreserved, which is more than enough considering the mana cost of winter orb after the proper "- total mana of skills" crafts is literally zero.
@@nathanbrotherbob it def reserves more mana if you have gems inside the gear, on my gloves as is, it reserves 22% mana and if i put in a lvl 20 inc duration it goes to 31% mana reserved for aspect of the spider
added in acane surge with inc duration it's now 39% mana reserve
so you ideally want it on a ring or your belt.
How do you have such a high upkeep of the orb? And it doesn't seem like you have to stop and cast. How?
Lots of cast speed makes charging take like half a second to hit max stacks
@@nathanbrotherbob Awesome thanks for the reply! Really appreciate your video man. It helps a bunch.
Could you recommend a good chest as a substitute for Inpulsa's until I get it please?
Tabula, and if you feel squishy, just a corrupted rare 6L with the colors you need and a lot of life- that should run you about 50-100c tops
Nathan Walker nice one mate thank you for the reply, will take the advice