I wonder whether the difference between spurs and other successful teams is that the others have patience and appreciate that it takes time and building for more than 1.5 seasons
Nope.. If you want to win trophies.. You need top top top players no two ways about it.. Team win constantly buy top players while we buy from bargain shops and hope for them to turn good but when they do the curren top players will leave and the cucle repeats itself for the past 24 years
Mourinho had spurs at the top of the league for quite some time with crap defenders that he never wanted, He also made a cup final fair enough if we didn’t like his football, but the man knew how to get results even at Spurs with a crap team
Personally I think the biggest problem is that there's such impatience. The club is always the same but with each manager, there's always new foundations having to be laid to start again. Ange has come out and said even when he leaves, he wants to leave the club in a good place, for whoever is next to build from. That's not happened really since Redknapp. It could have happened with Poch, if ENIC invested but success came at the wrong time as we'd committed to a new £1 billion stadium. I see Ange as being at the beginning of what Arteta begun at Arsenal and I'd rather realise the reality of where the club, the team and the manager are at and support through that process without whingeing and whining about inconsistencies, or how we didn't get Eze or whatever... because at the end of the day, us as the fans are then contributing to the lack of growth our club makes and we therefore wouldn't even deserve for things to get better 🤷♂️
The club should never have hired Mourinho and Conte in the first place, both great managers but not suited to the club. I always thought once Poch was gone the next manager should’ve had a a similar playing style.
@@peterkehagias Not at all. I'm looking for a manager that is willing to adapt. Ange is being schooled in this league. He has a huge budget....which he has used..compared to most teams in this league.
Conte would have been a success if he had time and the board could be trusted, he never got the change to have proper wing backs with Porro and udogie and 3 centre backs we would have been cooking, like you forgot how we was playing under conte when we made top four in first season
I just think he doesnt see it as a constructive conversation. If levy sold up you cannot sit there and guarantee we wont be bought by someone that will be even more offensive
"that freekick went in and the rest is history" Brian mate that game was on 14 November in Poch's FIRST SEASON. It's Ange's SECOND SEASON now and we don't look any better
I disagree, i think we are a lot better and control games better by majority. I think people are forgetting that the start we had at the beginning of last season was unusual considering much of the team hadnt had any time to gel but we were also hit by alot of injuries. We have not seen this teams ceiling at all so why would anyone with a brain bottle it now?
Come on Sim, Ramos was completely sold down the river by Levy who sold our two main strikers, Keane and Berbatov, in the summer. Any club would have been devastated by that.
For once, STAY WITH THE F***ING PROGRAM. Just stop with the kneejerk reactions. Every project/program has ups and downs as it builds. Ripping out the Manager and the staff accomplishes nothing after 18 months.
Sim avb 2nd season was a disaster true, but ask yourself why . Look at the players sold that summer. Lets not rewrite history to fit your current narrative. Levy was the reason we were 2 points from 8 avb did the best he could do under those circumstances. Ange has no such excuses he says hes happy with the transfers in and out
@@robertbslee4209you will lose games you don’t get less points or more points if you beat a team at the bottom it’s irrelevant, fans need to understand to be successful you go through ups and downs, and we 3points of the top 4.
Quick question, is it true that we have got better or worse since the fat man took over. I've heard you stating the stats show things have improved but the only stat that counts is points per game - started at 2.6 per game as we rode our luck in the first 10 and ended with 1.73 for the season. in the final 28 it equated to 1.42. This season its 1.45 so far....if we lose to city it slips to 1.33, not sure considering some of the performances, thinking palace Brighton 2nd half and Ipswich, nevermind the galatasary shtshow we actually played the way you think.
Spurs fans can be very impatient - and so does Levy, who has an itchy trigger finger to fire his managers just when things start getting a little shaky. He doesn’t leave much room for rectification. Ange needs time to build this team. Yes, he’s not perfect, he needs to learn from his mistakes too. So, give him time. Winning a trophy will not get rid of all the underlying issues this club is facing right now. We need time to build a strong foundation. Once that happens, the trophies will come. Just be patient. The longer the hardship, the sweeter the victory. COYS!!!
Competing and winning are totally different things. Ange is totally out of his depth and can't instil any consistency into the players. Expect a 6th/7th finish and no trophy. Of course, Levy hasn't got a winning mentality, and this feeds down
Everyone says Spurs are the best side to watch in the country. If we put away just a fraction of the many great chances we would be near the top. The problem is that some of our players are not clinical goal scorers and also, sometimes we don't create at all. It is strange.
It’s really easy for these guys to praise Poch now, while back then all of them were Poch out, he never won anything. Typical Tottenham fans who don’t deserve anything.
Its like they have amnesia every year and assume every team above us in the league will win every single game so a loss means its over to them. Every single one of those teams above us is capable of dropping enough points that we can make up the difference to if we can keep going on runs like the one we were on up until the last couple. We dont have many draws, only 1 i think? That is good. The season is far from over.
Which players? Half of them signed within the last year and a half lol are people acting like this is the finished article that were gonna mount title challenges with? Like sure i wanna go try and get a trophy or whatever and it isnt impossible but its also worth being realistic about the stage in the development of this team we are at, which is still early
Right? I wanna know who this imaginary manager is that people are so sure is going to be successful that they will sack the guy who has brought us our best football in almost a decade
I wonder whether the difference between spurs and other successful teams is that the others have patience and appreciate that it takes time and building for more than 1.5 seasons
Nope.. If you want to win trophies.. You need top top top players no two ways about it.. Team win constantly buy top players while we buy from bargain shops and hope for them to turn good but when they do the curren top players will leave and the cucle repeats itself for the past 24 years
The thing though is that Spurs fans have been patient for years with nothing in the horizon. The wait did not start 1.5 seasons ago
actually we have been impatient with every single coach coming in after Poch don’t fool yourself💀
You don't win signing crap
Mourinho had spurs at the top of the league for quite some time with crap defenders that he never wanted, He also made a cup final fair enough if we didn’t like his football, but the man knew how to get results even at Spurs with a crap team
By getting crap defenders he didn’t want, Daniel Levy should be sacked for that!
PL managers wins after 50 games:
🇩🇪 Jurgen Klopp: 26
🇪🇸 Mikel Arteta: 26
🇪🇸 Pep Guardiola: 36
🇦🇺 Ange Postecoglou: 25 (from 49)
It’s a process.
Well said mate
Your not getting any trophy 😂😂😂
Facts (literally)
Personally I think the biggest problem is that there's such impatience. The club is always the same but with each manager, there's always new foundations having to be laid to start again. Ange has come out and said even when he leaves, he wants to leave the club in a good place, for whoever is next to build from. That's not happened really since Redknapp. It could have happened with Poch, if ENIC invested but success came at the wrong time as we'd committed to a new £1 billion stadium. I see Ange as being at the beginning of what Arteta begun at Arsenal and I'd rather realise the reality of where the club, the team and the manager are at and support through that process without whingeing and whining about inconsistencies, or how we didn't get Eze or whatever... because at the end of the day, us as the fans are then contributing to the lack of growth our club makes and we therefore wouldn't even deserve for things to get better 🤷♂️
If Spurs fans keep asking for Ange out, we will get our Shaudenfreud.I’m sticking with Ange and the process.COYS.
Two words for the Ange out brigade. Brendan Rogers.
Quite simple, moura and Llorente should have started that champions league final
The club should never have hired Mourinho and Conte in the first place, both great managers but not suited to the club. I always thought once Poch was gone the next manager should’ve had a a similar playing style.
I AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT ANGE WILL WIN THE MID-TABLE TROPHY THIS SEASON.
😂
what a comedian you are :)
a petition should be started online TBH “sack Levy Now” asap…
The problem of the club is that,,, spurs don't want to sign good players always signing cheaperst players...
Still blaming Jose and Conte instead of Loser Levy!
Mahrino conte pep need big cheque books to succeed lol lol lpl
@@peterkehagias Just like Ange....360 million. lol
@@robertwilson948 so basically you want manager to come in and win everything in one season
@@peterkehagias Not at all. I'm looking for a manager that is willing to adapt. Ange is being schooled in this league. He has a huge budget....which he has used..compared to most teams in this league.
Conte would have been a success if he had time and the board could be trusted, he never got the change to have proper wing backs with Porro and udogie and 3 centre backs we would have been cooking, like you forgot how we was playing under conte when we made top four in first season
Sim is such a Levy simp he argues for every bad decision the club make. Ben keeps it so much more real and sees things for what they are.
I just think he doesnt see it as a constructive conversation. If levy sold up you cannot sit there and guarantee we wont be bought by someone that will be even more offensive
"that freekick went in and the rest is history" Brian mate that game was on 14 November in Poch's FIRST SEASON. It's Ange's SECOND SEASON now and we don't look any better
I disagree, i think we are a lot better and control games better by majority. I think people are forgetting that the start we had at the beginning of last season was unusual considering much of the team hadnt had any time to gel but we were also hit by alot of injuries. We have not seen this teams ceiling at all so why would anyone with a brain bottle it now?
Ange is favourite for the flying pig shield!
jerk
You guys don’t know that Spurs were 4th when Conte left?
This channel is bipolar
CONTE was right! Levy Out.
Come on Sim, Ramos was completely sold down the river by Levy who sold our two main strikers, Keane and Berbatov, in the summer. Any club would have been devastated by that.
ENIC OUT!!!
Bunglingham Botchspur Mate, it's who we are !!
Ramos had zero backing and had key players sold by Loser Levy!
"Who's on first, What's on second"
Winning the championship is a trophy too 👍
For once, STAY WITH THE F***ING PROGRAM. Just stop with the kneejerk reactions. Every project/program has ups and downs as it builds. Ripping out the Manager and the staff accomplishes nothing after 18 months.
The project is too outdated and physically harm players, so ur wrong.
@Wutupup nonsense, most of the squad players are only just getting to match fitness and sharpness but when they do fitness wont be a problem
Sim avb 2nd season was a disaster true, but ask yourself why . Look at the players sold that summer. Lets not rewrite history to fit your current narrative. Levy was the reason we were 2 points from 8 avb did the best he could do under those circumstances. Ange has no such excuses he says hes happy with the transfers in and out
Different club, different league at the time.
@bb5979 same club same chairman same transfer policy same excuses
Wrong manager.
Compare Ericson with Modric. Different levels Ben
That’s what the fans are doing now, as soon as we lose it’s meltdown
Thats what happens when we are losing 50% of the time and becoming a target for bottom of the table
@@robertbslee4209you will lose games you don’t get less points or more points if you beat a team at the bottom it’s irrelevant, fans need to understand to be successful you go through ups and downs, and we 3points of the top 4.
@@theuglytruth65343 points of top 4 sure but 4 points off 14th so bang in the middle of the table.
Quick question, is it true that we have got better or worse since the fat man took over. I've heard you stating the stats show things have improved but the only stat that counts is points per game - started at 2.6 per game as we rode our luck in the first 10 and ended with 1.73 for the season. in the final 28 it equated to 1.42. This season its 1.45 so far....if we lose to city it slips to 1.33, not sure considering some of the performances, thinking palace Brighton 2nd half and Ipswich, nevermind the galatasary shtshow we actually played the way you think.
Spurs fans can be very impatient - and so does Levy, who has an itchy trigger finger to fire his managers just when things start getting a little shaky. He doesn’t leave much room for rectification.
Ange needs time to build this team. Yes, he’s not perfect, he needs to learn from his mistakes too. So, give him time.
Winning a trophy will not get rid of all the underlying issues this club is facing right now.
We need time to build a strong foundation. Once that happens, the trophies will come.
Just be patient. The longer the hardship, the sweeter the victory.
COYS!!!
Building garbage so far
Competing and winning are totally different things. Ange is totally out of his depth and can't instil any consistency into the players. Expect a 6th/7th finish and no trophy. Of course, Levy hasn't got a winning mentality, and this feeds down
So you criticize jose and he had the one of the worst squads.
Bro had kane bale and son
When Ange was sacked he was in the top 4, 1 point behind Man Utd in 3rd! Please don't try and change history!
When conte was sacked
Everyone says Spurs are the best side to watch in the country. If we put away just a fraction of the many great chances we would be near the top. The problem is that some of our players are not clinical goal scorers and also, sometimes we don't create at all. It is strange.
A good team will poach ange if we get rid of him i guarantee. Saw some liverpool fans that entertained the idea before klopp joined.
Before he left* even lol
top 4 is more succes than winning a cup for sim!
Same for arteta by the looks of it
@@bb5979 what do you mean?
Is this guy ok arguing about whether winning a cup = success?
It’s really easy for these guys to praise Poch now, while back then all of them were Poch out, he never won anything. Typical Tottenham fans who don’t deserve anything.
Sooooo Spursyyyyyyyy 😢😮😢😮
All fans want to win every game,it wont happen!! Man city are losing more games than ever before!! it goes in cycles.
Its like they have amnesia every year and assume every team above us in the league will win every single game so a loss means its over to them. Every single one of those teams above us is capable of dropping enough points that we can make up the difference to if we can keep going on runs like the one we were on up until the last couple. We dont have many draws, only 1 i think? That is good. The season is far from over.
He won’t with those players!
Which players? Half of them signed within the last year and a half lol are people acting like this is the finished article that were gonna mount title challenges with? Like sure i wanna go try and get a trophy or whatever and it isnt impossible but its also worth being realistic about the stage in the development of this team we are at, which is still early
Sim is so delusional
pochettino did not win a trophy. others have done so what are we looking for????
Right? I wanna know who this imaginary manager is that people are so sure is going to be successful that they will sack the guy who has brought us our best football in almost a decade
Jose and Conte were toxic and were not building a successful culture
Wanting to win at Spurs = toxic
Hahahahahaha. Now getting legends to say nonsense like this