Watching videos during this whole COVID-19 business. Somehow ended up here. I am a carpenter, so I followed the rabbit hole of scribing videos. Yours is by far the best. Short, simple, excellent finished product... Thank you.
Hi Tim, the problem with using a round washer is it will scribe inside curves to a smaller radius and outside curves to a greater radius so the result line will never be a close fit. The bigger the washer the greater the error. Better to use a scribe that comes to a point and keep it horizontal to the floor as you go down the wall. But then you did say you weren't after an accurate finish ;D lol
Yes totally different if I was scribing trim indoors but where room is needed for expansion outside and a less accurate finish this was a good way to demo a simple DIY method. 👍
To reduce tear out you should try Starrett dual cut blades. Cuts on the up and down stroke giving less (next to no) tear out. Great video and the washer idea is one I'll note down - love the channel
Thanks for your tips. I am in a similar situation installing flooring against a large stone hearth & cutting an angle on the bandsaw first was crucial! Tough to cut 3/4” oak flooring with a jigsaw.
you could use a big washer to get the general shape, then a smaller one for fine details if you need it. depends on how tight the finish needs to be i guess.
@@chrisembleton624 different radius washers will move your "base" scribe line though so need to account for that with the placement of the piece when scribing.
Really simplified it for me! Thank you. My efforts always included an incompetent compass and an inept carpenter - (me) - and horrible results better left to Bondo and many hours of sanding...
The only thing I would have done differently is I would have put a 1/4 inch blade on the bandsaw and used that to cut out the shape rather than use the jigsaw, but still with table on a tilt to save cutting twice. You would have the same angle cut all the way through. Especially with that amazing bandsaw you have, the sabre is a great saw
I planned to do that but finding space to manoeuvre a long timber on the bandsaw is a little tricky in there at the moment 😂 Plus not everyone has a bandsaw so always good to show basic DIY tools where possible. 👍
Scribing is best done by whatever method you find best. I've tried it your way and it works fine so don't listen to the 🛎 🔚 who sati us he'd use a scroll saw! Not sure what planet he's from! I've used the table saw on site when there's nothing else, I've used a handsaw when it's not so 'wavy'. Personally I'd have used a compass with a fine sharpie as i use 4h pencils so difficult to mark on oak. If a can't find the compasses I'll use a bit of wood with a pointed end to the wall and just keep it level. Never seen the washer trick but I like it. (been a joiner for 35yrs so I've learnt something!) Cutting it I'd angle the base of the jigsaw and cut it from the face. There isn't much tearout to be honest. The down cutting blades are more dangerous to me sit bounces out. Anyway, Good job. 👍
Great finish on the scribe. Try using a downwards cutting jigsaw blade next time. Would of made cutting the scribe a lot easier as you can cut from the face side. 👍
Cheers for the video. Never seen a washer method! I still don't understand fully how you gauge the width of the scribed bit so it does not sit too shallow... I am doing some architrave at the minute.
Hi Tim, great scribing tip, I will try it next time I need to scribe to a wall. You said you did not want to trap moisture between the wall and the oak, so will you run a bead of silicone down the joint once you are done?
Silicone would probably cause more damage as it tends to trap moisture. As it’s under cover there isn’t any need to ‘seal’ it but a careful pointing with lime mortar is an option when I come to redo the stonework.
Yes I would usually use the same if doing interior trim but for bumpy exterior stone it would be ‘too accurate’ if you know what I mean and therefore you would end up smoothing out the lines as you cut anyway.
I’ve recently had recommended to me to remove a channel/excess timber behind the face with a router and then scribbing. Similar to how you used the saw at an angle
Nice job on the scribing - good idea, but you scared me to death holding the jigsaw like that - it'll take one of your fingers one day doing it like that!
Nice, did you consider a reverse jigsaw blade? That wouldve assisted with reduced tear out. Nice Vid 😀👍 How'd you find that Hikoki nail gun, any good as opposed to a Paslode?
Would you not think cutting the timber parallel and using the expanding black joint foam would have looked nicer? Never like a scribe into rough stonework personally
Tim how do you decide the starting width of the timber so that once it's scribed it finishes where it needs to be? or do you scribe first and trim to width after.
In this case I’d guess his cladding would give him the wiggle room. As long as it doesn’t look too thin he doesn’t need a perfect final width because he could cut the cladding long. Trimming after scribing can technically work but I don’t like doing it. The remaining flat reference edge will need to ride along the fence as you cut. This is your new show side and will probably will have blade marks (and maybe burn if you’re using a table saw). These need to be sanded off and restrained if you’re using pre-finished stock. [Remember to measure with the blade kerf in mind since you’re keeping the “waste” side of the cut!] If you need a specific final width, you need to know how much stock is being removed so you can do the math. To find that amount, first put the board against your surface and measure the widest gap. If you’re using a compass and you set it to exactly that width, you’re done: that’s the measurement of width you’re losing. If you’re using the washer method (or setting your compass to take more than the absolute minimum) you need to measure the distance between your scribe line and the wall where the wood is touching the stone. This is the biggest amount of wood being cut away. Use that (remembering to account for blade kerf) to get your final measurement. Hope that helps - I’ve never tried to write it out before. I’m sure there are good videos out there too to check out.
How to not use a jigsaw followed by how you should do it on a band saw. I have a scroll saw I would of used that, in much the same way you used the bandsaw. Turned out alright in the end and you still have all your fingers so it’s a win
Why can’t you use a jigsaw like that? I know most would use a rounded scribe foot from below but for scribing trim it’s far easier. Especially on skirting and dado rail.
For those diy'ers out there DO NOT USE A JIGSAW THIS WAY UNLESS YOU ARE COMPETANT IN USING ONE! I understand the method of using one upside down just don't think yours is the right handled one to do this safely it would be rather awkward to hold
Yeah a standard handled jigsaw is not as easy and a little clumsy, providing you are cutting away from yourself it’s not too high risk. But yes, stay safe folks. 👍
My good sir, you saved me a whole afternoon of aggravation with your washer tip. No 2 minute intro, right to the point! Bravo bravo bravo!
Watching videos during this whole COVID-19 business. Somehow ended up here. I am a carpenter, so I followed the rabbit hole of scribing videos. Yours is by far the best. Short, simple, excellent finished product... Thank you.
Hi Tim, the problem with using a round washer is it will scribe inside curves to a smaller radius and outside curves to a greater radius so the result line will never be a close fit. The bigger the washer the greater the error. Better to use a scribe that comes to a point and keep it horizontal to the floor as you go down the wall. But then you did say you weren't after an accurate finish ;D lol
Yes totally different if I was scribing trim indoors but where room is needed for expansion outside and a less accurate finish this was a good way to demo a simple DIY method. 👍
Always wondered how to scribe but never looked in to it. What a great technique 👍🏻
To reduce tear out you should try Starrett dual cut blades. Cuts on the up and down stroke giving less (next to no) tear out.
Great video and the washer idea is one I'll note down - love the channel
You have just made scribing much easier for me, thanks Tim
Brill! You taught me a new skill.
Thanks for your tips. I am in a similar situation installing flooring against a large stone hearth & cutting an angle on the bandsaw first was crucial! Tough to cut 3/4” oak flooring with a jigsaw.
needed this to put built-ins next to our stone fireplace. thank you!
Fabulous little video. It throughly answered my questions without any fluff. Grazie!
Excellent attention to detail
Thank you!😊 Doing the same job, saved us ages. Brilliant
Excellent man! I have a job coming up next week where I have to do this and I was pretty nervous about it. Thank you!
So simple but so effective. Never tried the material removal from the behind, really useful tip.
Pretty much spot on, gonna try this next time out 👍
Brilliant demo. Many thanks
I guess the radius of the washer stops very small indents being marked so it's like reducing the resolution and it gives you a smoother cutting line.
Exactly. On a smooth wall a compass or similar would be fine but would be a pain with masonry.
you could use a big washer to get the general shape, then a smaller one for fine details if you need it. depends on how tight the finish needs to be i guess.
@@chrisembleton624 different radius washers will move your "base" scribe line though so need to account for that with the placement of the piece when scribing.
Really simplified it for me! Thank you. My efforts always included an incompetent compass and an inept carpenter - (me) - and horrible results better left to Bondo and many hours of sanding...
VERY NICELY DONE!!!
That has come out very well, excellent job.
The only thing I would have done differently is I would have put a 1/4 inch blade on the bandsaw and used that to cut out the shape rather than use the jigsaw, but still with table on a tilt to save cutting twice. You would have the same angle cut all the way through. Especially with that amazing bandsaw you have, the sabre is a great saw
I planned to do that but finding space to manoeuvre a long timber on the bandsaw is a little tricky in there at the moment 😂 Plus not everyone has a bandsaw so always good to show basic DIY tools where possible. 👍
what a great little tip for scribing. so simple. thanks for that.
Excellent tips. A nice short one too, love when they're
Brilliant and clever. Well Done. See you Saturday (Sunday Australian time).LOL.
Another very helpful and enjoyable video
Well done and thanks 🙏
Excellent piece of scribing. Keep up the excellent work.
Scribing is best done by whatever method you find best. I've tried it your way and it works fine so don't listen to the 🛎 🔚 who sati us he'd use a scroll saw! Not sure what planet he's from! I've used the table saw on site when there's nothing else, I've used a handsaw when it's not so 'wavy'. Personally I'd have used a compass with a fine sharpie as i use 4h pencils so difficult to mark on oak. If a can't find the compasses I'll use a bit of wood with a pointed end to the wall and just keep it level. Never seen the washer trick but I like it. (been a joiner for 35yrs so I've learnt something!) Cutting it I'd angle the base of the jigsaw and cut it from the face. There isn't much tearout to be honest. The down cutting blades are more dangerous to me sit bounces out. Anyway, Good job. 👍
Nicely done Tim
Great video, and useful content I will be cladding against a stone wall later in the year so this is very helpful.
Dude!!!! So simple !
Great tip Tim 👍🏼
Genius! Thank you
Great finish on the scribe. Try using a downwards cutting jigsaw blade next time. Would of made cutting the scribe a lot easier as you can cut from the face side. 👍
Thank you 🙏
Thank you to this brilliant idea
Great, simple and really effective. Another great video thanks. Love the channel.
Great idea I’ll remember that method .thanks
Nicely done!
Looks brilliant, very well done!
Cheers for the video. Never seen a washer method! I still don't understand fully how you gauge the width of the scribed bit so it does not sit too shallow...
I am doing some architrave at the minute.
That was a blumin good scribe 👍👍👍
Great idea thanks
Hi Tim, great scribing tip, I will try it next time I need to scribe to a wall. You said you did not want to trap moisture between the wall and the oak, so will you run a bead of silicone down the joint once you are done?
Silicone would probably cause more damage as it tends to trap moisture. As it’s under cover there isn’t any need to ‘seal’ it but a careful pointing with lime mortar is an option when I come to redo the stonework.
Hiya, amazing vid..keep up the good work.
A spare half an hour? Would have taken me a fair few hours! Good job man
I normally use a pair of compasses or dividers. Although I must admit that jig looked very quick to use.
Yes I would usually use the same if doing interior trim but for bumpy exterior stone it would be ‘too accurate’ if you know what I mean and therefore you would end up smoothing out the lines as you cut anyway.
Great video!!
Good job
Very nice!
Proper job👍
Very clever 😄
I’ve recently had recommended to me to remove a channel/excess timber behind the face with a router and then scribbing. Similar to how you used the saw at an angle
LOL tip! Thanks for sharing
Nice jigsaw work lol thats what my straight cuts end up looking like lol
Nice job on the scribing - good idea, but you scared me to death holding the jigsaw like that - it'll take one of your fingers one day doing it like that!
Nice, did you consider a reverse jigsaw blade? That wouldve assisted with reduced tear out. Nice Vid 😀👍
How'd you find that Hikoki nail gun, any good as opposed to a Paslode?
Would you not think cutting the timber parallel and using the expanding black joint foam would have looked nicer? Never like a scribe into rough stonework personally
Tim how do you decide the starting width of the timber so that once it's scribed it finishes where it needs to be? or do you scribe first and trim to width after.
I have always wondered this too. I notice Tim never answered you. Did you find the answer elsewhere? Would like to know if you did. Thanks.
In this case I’d guess his cladding would give him the wiggle room. As long as it doesn’t look too thin he doesn’t need a perfect final width because he could cut the cladding long.
Trimming after scribing can technically work but I don’t like doing it. The remaining flat reference edge will need to ride along the fence as you cut. This is your new show side and will probably will have blade marks (and maybe burn if you’re using a table saw). These need to be sanded off and restrained if you’re using pre-finished stock. [Remember to measure with the blade kerf in mind since you’re keeping the “waste” side of the cut!]
If you need a specific final width, you need to know how much stock is being removed so you can do the math. To find that amount, first put the board against your surface and measure the widest gap. If you’re using a compass and you set it to exactly that width, you’re done: that’s the measurement of width you’re losing. If you’re using the washer method (or setting your compass to take more than the absolute minimum) you need to measure the distance between your scribe line and the wall where the wood is touching the stone. This is the biggest amount of wood being cut away. Use that (remembering to account for blade kerf) to get your final measurement. Hope that helps - I’ve never tried to write it out before. I’m sure there are good videos out there too to check out.
Tidy job as always. Finished of the cladding nicely.
Could you have used a reverse cutting blade in the jigsaw?
He wouldn't have been able to see the very irregular line though.
wonderful darling :)
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bevel the jigsaw to begin with and skip a step 👍🏼
It struggled enough as it was with the dry oak but definitely possible. 👍
I probably would've done the same thing. Just less neat 😅 my woodworking still needs a lot of practice
I was thinking of all sorts of fussy things for this - thanks for the reminder to KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid!
Woodglut has a very large project base.
How to not use a jigsaw followed by how you should do it on a band saw. I have a scroll saw I would of used that, in much the same way you used the bandsaw. Turned out alright in the end and you still have all your fingers so it’s a win
Why can’t you use a jigsaw like that? I know most would use a rounded scribe foot from below but for scribing trim it’s far easier. Especially on skirting and dado rail.
Gerry, go back to playing with train set son.
For those diy'ers out there DO NOT USE A JIGSAW THIS WAY UNLESS YOU ARE COMPETANT IN USING ONE! I understand the method of using one upside down just don't think yours is the right handled one to do this safely it would be rather awkward to hold
Yeah a standard handled jigsaw is not as easy and a little clumsy, providing you are cutting away from yourself it’s not too high risk. But yes, stay safe folks. 👍