I MADE THE MISTAKE OF GOING TO AN ER TO FIND OUT WHERE MY SISTER WAS IN THE ADJACENT HOSPITAL. I was asked to fill out a form, but quit when it asked me about my health issues. "Hey, I'm not checking in to the ER, I just want to know what hospital room my sister's in" I told the nurse. She took the form, then directed me to the help desk in the hospital lobby. So,vI left, and went to the desk. A week later, I got a bill from the ER Dept. for $270 for "Consultation". Yes really!
I recall in 2003 I had 2 life threadening Asthma Attacks that sent me into a coma, mywife called an Ambulance as I was no responding to her, Ambulance took 3 minutes to arrived and straight away injectioned with adrenaline continuelly, as I would not respond to Paraemdics, Paramedics fed all medical information was fed back to A&E so the hospital was already prepared, no soon I arrived in A&E the medical staff needed to bring out of the coma, then put me back into a controlled coma, I was incubated on a life support machine for 6 days, I recall I woke up on the Saturday, very confused, very weak, unable to stand or walk severe pain all over my body, a few days after I awoke, I was moved to another medical ward where I received the after care and to help me to walk agian, I was discharged after 14 days of been admitted, I had been in the US the medical bill would have I believe near enough a half a million, in my native UK country this health care did not cost me anything, and even today still under the care of the hospital some 20 years later it still does not cost me anything, the US have no health care as such as the health care system is not based on duty of care but on ability to pay like a business, so to call it a health care system is nothing but flawed.
I live in the US. Last fall I had severe shortness of breath and chest pains. Was in the hospital for 3 days and had basically every imaginable cardio pulmonary test there is. Luckily it turned out to be minor, and also luckily we have decent health insurance through our employer. But the final bill was $36,000... for 3 days. The bill almost caused a heart attack just by itself.
The thing that blows me away about the price of an ambulance in the USA, is how little paramedics get paid. I get the equipment is expensive. Still, it just doesn't balance for me.
Doesn't matter if you never get into the ambulance you still have to pay for it coming. I got a bill after my dad died for the ambulance. Note that he was DOA. He left in the coroner's van, never got into the ambulance. But because they came we got a bill. I remember my last job called an ambulance on a woman who fainted and she wouldn't even give them her name because she didn't want a bill and was mad at the manager for calling.
I drove my mom while she was having a stroke to the hospital and my former tenant with a knife wound because ambulance is $2200.Ubers are the new ambulances.Healthcare here in the U.S. is an obscenity.
People routinely come to the ER in their own vehicles, even when severely bleeding, and will transport themselves or be moved by family between facilities when a transfer is necessary. Poor people actually are better off than most, as they get government healthcare that is better than what normal working people can get.
i had to be transfered to another hospital for emergany by ambulance and it was over 3 grand that was not covered by insurance since i was going out of network and that was just the ride to another hospital not counting the cost of the procedure and hospital stay for 3 days afterwards
Yes we Brits are spoiled by having the NHS, but no one thinks this stuff is free or cheap to do if serious care required. But we do believe it’s a basic human right and the humane thing to do in looking after each other. We ALL pay together through taxes so it’s there when or if we need it
I have quite severe lung problems and I’m on a specialized inhaler which costs $1000/month retail. Thankfully I have insurance which means my co-pay is $30/month and my premiums are roughly $200/month…so still not cheap…but definitely better than $1000! And that’s just for the one inhaler! It’s brutal here in the US.
But the problem is that the mothers don't either get paid maternity leave you get 6 weeks unpaid leave and it's back to work. And forget paternity leave that doesn't even exist and then raising a child is extraordinarily expensive in the United States there is only tax breaks as well as worrying about them getting killed in a school shooting.
In Australia our system is essentially the same as the NHS where one can use public hospitals or private; this of course depends on the level of insurance and if what you are having done is covered within your individual policy....ambulances are covered through private insurance, government taxes or levy included on electricity bills; depends on where you live.
Interesting. Would you say people are generally happy with healthcare in Australia? Private provision here is at a minimum however, anything remotely high risk tends not to be available privately.
So we live in regional New South Wales, approximately 8 hours north of Sydney and so care recieved here is different in terms of availability; however in general most people here seem happy with the level of care they get, there are those who complajn but when you look at the USA as a prime example we, like you guys have nothing to complain about. Private insurance is something that less than half the population have, this can be for various reasons but are mainly financial as the cost of this goes up each year, usually in line with the consumer price index. Like the UK our private system compliments the public one in each state; although for anything major or complex you will always be treated within the state system where the only benefit of private insurance is the ability to get a private room where available and choice of doctor/specialist; private insurance here also covers you for things like breastfeeding reconstruction and pregnancy, blood transfusions, diabetes related items and many more.....this however is totally dependent on your level of hospital coverage that you hold along with any waiting periods that you have served prior to any procedure being performed. Regarding ambulances specifically, in NSW they are a user pays service, unless you hold a pension card, get unemployed benefits or hold a veteran affairs card so for this reason many people hold separate ambulance coverage provided by a health insurer and its something you can buy for about $120 per year per family which saves potentially thousands if you are transported to hospital via ambulance, fees do vary too depending on distance travelled, urgency of care and include a call out fee of about $350; I will say though that if something happens in NSW but you live elsewhere, as did to my father in law the bill gets sent to your address and you take that to your ambulance station (Queensland) and the amount is paid to NSW through your electricity bill levy which all QLD households pay as an emergency services levy of about 3 percent each quarter.
Paying $40 for skin to skin. What are you doing? Hiring someone else to do it? It sounds like the convenience fee online shopping charges you. What? Am i paying you for something you dont need to do?
US, no ambulance, 5 days in hospital. Saline and progressive antibiotics to treat sepsis, 250k$. Ended up paying 10k. And that’s with really good insurance. ..🙄
I don't think the people are saying that they think that's how much the procedures literally cost the hospital. I think they're guessing how much people are charged for them. Given these prices are with insurance, the shock is understandable!
Exactly, I'm not sure why the one felt the need to call the man an idiot for thinking ambulances were free. Not everyone has any idea or interest about health costs in the US, it doesn't make him an idiot.
They don't bill like 1000 for the room or 800 for the drugs in America if you have private ins or medicare. DRG or diagnosis-related Group means the Hospital and your insurance company have agreed on a flat fee by what you are admitted for or the primary diagnosis. If you have no insurance you could get a bill for 75k for Cancer treatment as an example.If you sue that person's insurance company after a car accident, the money you get from a said accident you will have to pay the hospital back if they treated you. Don't even think about not telling the hospital that you were awarded some money and they will not find out..I don't know how they find out but the hospital will contact you or the insurance and they will have to pay the Lean the hospital has on you before you get your money...
Right now we are getting ready for our daughter to be born, and the cost of the procedure without insurance is actually lower than what it would be with insurance. My cousins bill was 100 thousand usd before her insurance kicked in. But ours is estimated at 10 thousand
@@ScanningTheMind yea or call ambulances. It was just funny to me, to hear you laugh and be like “bruv I just wouldn’t call the ambulance”… and yea we don’t lol I’ve taken an uber to the ER way too many times
@@PerksJ haha that’s mad! I suppose the flip side is sometimes people here might inappropriately call ambulances- but it’s sad that if someone genuinely needs an ambulance they don’t call it because of fear of cost
@@ScanningTheMind well it gets abused here too but by people who are wealthy enough for it not to matter. I get healthcare thru my employer and have a pretty good plan so an ambulance ride for me would be about $800. ER admission is $400, then everything, even a bandaid/ibuprofin gets added to the bill from there. For me, a teacher who makes the average american salary, that is pretty much all my savings, but for someone else that may be nothing at all. The worst part is you will never know how much your bill is until you receive it. And even if you are taken to a hospital that is “covered” (only meaning that your insurance has an agreement with them so you will receive treatments for the price it says in your insurance benefits brochure) a certain doctor in that hospital might nit be, so depending whose shift it is could cost you hundreds or hundreds of thousands of dollars if that doctor is “out of network”.
I saw a documentary one a women cervical cancer but she had forgotten to tell the insurance company that in her twenties she had trust and they cancelled her health care cover they did not pay anything toward her medical bills.
We all know the NHS is not "free" but free at point of service. Those people interviewed are also paying their taxes into the system, so no need for the Doctors to be so condescending just because they are the general public.
@@sylviasworld9397 We’re not being condescending- I don’t blame them for not knowing how much things cost. Why would they when we never speak about the true cost of a visit to a hospital ? There needs to be a greater awareness of how much healthcare actually costs, otherwise things are often taken for granted.
@@ScanningTheMindSorry but I found it a little condescending or maybe belittling at points assuming that members of the public say free they literally mean free, when obviously there is a cost which is spread across all taxpayers. We know this. Its not my job to know the actual pound for pound cost tbh, but to pay the taxes that funds it.
That's why I am glad I am in the UK few.years ago spent 2 weeks in hospital had surgery got seen to by a specialist and of course meds while I was there and glad it cost me nothing cause if I was in America I am guessing I would be mega mega in debt still
Doc reaction vids can be kind of cringe, but I really enjoyed this one. The juxtaposition of two self-assured young docs set against such a laid back and zen environment really work for me. New follow. Look forward to the fresh content and background elevator music;) -Becks
@@ScanningTheMind Universal healthcare first existed in the Soviet Union in 1918. In 1948, Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) stipulates that health is a human right that cannot be capitalized or given a price tag. And after 100 years, healthcare is in 194 countries out of 195 countries in the world, including North Korea. except the USA which still puts a price tag on health. for the reason that this is Universal healthcare is a crime of communism ua-cam.com/video/2rQ3h04UFP0/v-deo.html
Depends on your insurance. Our son had surgery. Just for the surgery alone was 19,000. The surgeon was one of the best. We paid, about 1,700. The insurance negotiates with the surgeon. However, the hospital charged a whopping 75,000, of which we paid 4,000. I am not on my husband's insurance anymore, we had to buy it. It is pretty good so far, but the insurance companies are really pushing for wellness checks and maintenance rather than leaving anything to the last minute. Some medications are not covered. They are tiers. It is very expensive compared to Australia. However, the specialists here, where I live are excellent, and many are from different countries.
@@ScanningTheMind if I remember rightly it's $3k+? That was within a bill presented to a person who had had a bad accident and had CT scans, x-rays, ultrasounds etc. But the CT scans and in fact the radiology dept charge humongous amounts! The CT scans are THE most expensive scan. The person was in ICU for a couple weeks?/days? But in hospital for a couple /3 weeks and at the end his bill was $376k. It's a reaction video by another couple of doctors - reading 4 medical bills (including the obstetric one), and reacting. The final bill, although we had no details of treatment etc, was $2m+. Imagine having to be in hospital and getting a $2m bill. Unbelievable.
@@susangamble6038 interesting. I had an MRI done privately few years ago (in the UK) which was a couple 100 £s. Seems crazy that a CT can run into the thousands
@@ScanningTheMind even the ultrasounds can run $1k and over. This is all, of course, charging for those without insurance. Apparently, people will take their own cars to hospital rather than an ambulance because of the cost. Broken arm, broken leg, concussion, bleeding to death .... it's crazy! So grateful for the NHS. I worked as a medical secretary to 5 paediatric urologists for 20 years (retired early in 2019). So I know the value of our health service. Sadly, because I worked there I also know all of the problems it faces.
That’s mad!, I had an USS privately in UK (without insurance obviously) and that was £350! Haha I bet you could tell a lot of stories having been a Consultants secretary, you guys always know all the juicy gossip 🤣
I live in southwest US on the Navajo Nation (indian reservation), and my healthcare is covered by the Indian Health Service. I never had to pay for my medication, vaccinations, tests, doctor's visit, etc. But there are some services that some IHS facilities don't provide therefore one has to go to a non-Indian facility which requires insurance. I broke my arm when I was a boy, and my parents didn't have to pay anything out of pocket because IHS took care most of the bill. Recently, I received ambulance bills and I'm waiting for my IHS to cover thee bills. I also signed up for Medicaid because I visited a non-IHS facility for a severe panic attack, and they needed me to sign up for insurance. So, I think IHS is probably the only one form of "NHS" here in thee States.
@@ScanningTheMind it really is!i can't believe i never thought about that before my cousin's trying to get her plans together over here too-and she's considering giving birth outside the hospital
I'd love to see y'all look at real life medical bills even after insuramce that we pay hundreds a month for. Just dont watch in the US because you might have a heart attack 🥴
My albuterol inhaler is $37.00 - I pay $36.00 annually for a discount Rx program thru my pharmacy. My Rx's are much cheaper thru this discount program than thru my medical insurance - one of my prescriptions is actually free. Some hospital and independent labs allow for patients to self pay for certain labs - the prices are much cheaper. A Chem screen that includes 28 levels of info, including a TSH is $45.00. I've had to pay $95.00 for just a TSH lab.
Canadian doc here. I used to work in ER, and I can't imagine having a patient arrest, not being able to get them back, and handing their family a dead body and a bill for thousands of dollars. That goes against everything I believe about medical practice. I think it is unspeakably cruel, and it violates every ethical principle I've ever held. I'd never be able to be an American doctor.
The childcare cost can be covered by Medicaid here in the US luckily, I don't have to pay medical bills for my son's birth due to my medicaid plan which allows me to focus just on child support.
Dudes, I have CIDP and Type 2 Diabetes. I have received well over $1.5 million worth of medicines and hospital/in home nursing care over the last 8 years. We gave paid a little over $2,000 out of pocket. I am 100% disabled and every bit of insurance has come from my wife's plan that costs the exorbatant amount of $90 a month. The issue IS NOT the hospitals, it is the employers buying the insurance for their people. They often buy the shittiest insurance possible, add $10, $20, $50 a month onto the cost (saying it is for paying the workers at their company to handle the claims and other BS) when in reality they are pocketing your wages. My wife works for a major wireless telephone company employing a couple hundred thousand people in their U.S. operations alone. For what they have covered we would have gladly paid $200 a month. She is a mid level manager now and so many of her employees, even before the inflation went haywire, said that the $150 a month for the insurance for all 4,5,6,7 people of their family was way too exorbatant. Trips to Disneyland annually, or cruises, or $75,000 pick up trucks was far more important. I cannot bring myself to feel one bit of remorse for these assclowns. It is the "right to free-dumb" that keeps the U.S. perpetually STUPID!!!
I heard that the us hospitals trump up the cost of the bill and if you ask for an itemized breakdown they will actually come down. Because they quote you the price they send to the insurance companies before they haggle down so if you don't know better you'll be paying way more than necessary
all-so the fact if you don't have healthcare of any sort you get charged a big fine at tax time and even if you have insurance while private or state run they make you jump through hoops and refuse to cover different things based on insurance and office
We know how much it costs for the NHS that's why we pay tax, I have worked in the NHS for many years now retired. It really gets to me when politicians bang on about the funding that's needed for the NHS, I am now retired, so I don't have to keep quiet. There is plenty of funding in the NHS, it is not getting to the front line staff, or services and equipment. The funding is disappearing into the multitudes of over payed non essential bureaucrats at all the trust head quarters. my rant over with.
The problem with the cost of Healthcare in the US is it depends on your insurance. Your insurance company has negotiated what the hospital will charge in private. There's a lack of price transparency. If you ask for an itemized bill, it'll magically get much cheaper. Socialized Healthcare is unaffordable in the US, on both state and federal levels.
@@ScanningTheMind No. The vast majority of Americans are terrible at finances. Most don't have a budget, don't know how much is in their account(s) at any given time, and pays whatever they're told to pay. As an American, I've noticed a decline in basic adult skills by Americans over the years, it's quite fascinating.
@@ScanningTheMind It depends on the why. My theory is 3 major things have caused the decline in basic adult skills. Laziness, some people just don't want to put the 10 minutes a week into their basic finances, or 15 minutes a week into their investment portfolios. Parenting, parents who either relied on technology to raise their children, or who are terrible with finances, are almost guaranteed to teach their children poor financial habits. Mental illness, in the advanced world, including the US, the rate has been steadily increasing. Regardless of the cause, though I theorize the increasingly unnatural lifestyle prevents us from acknowledging and fulfilling basic biological needs, can cause missing skills or the inability to complete tasks requiring certain skills. It's interesting, but its not possible at this time to truly identify the primary causes, and to determine a solution for them. You'd need alot of data, much of which Americans wouldn't volunteer, to suggest a theory based on more than speculation.
I Absolutely hate, hate these stupid channels that simplify the healthcare system like this. It is a false narrative. Yes, there are private insurances and people do pay more for healthcare. But if you are low income, or can't afford to pay these bills there are programs and state funded medical/medicare that will cover the bill. Why is that never spoken about??? People are so quick to act on things they know nothing about. And if you are over the age of 65, you automatically get medicare, and that is absolutely FREE.
Like you just said, if your income is low enough to qualify for government assistance. Most don’t but also aren’t so wealthy that 3k is no big deal. One of the most popular tv shows was based on a teacher who cooked meth to pay for his cancer treatments lol. Personally I wouldn’t go that route, I’d probably just not get treatment and die. Do you work for the insurance or pharmaceutical company or something lol, why would anyone else defend this?
How ignorant are these doctors ,stating they think patients should pay for hospital treatment someone does pay ie the patients who pay within their tax and NI
The amount we pay in taxes is far far less than what we'd have to pay out of pocket for health care. And we aren't paying for "lazy people", we're paying so the system will be there when we need it.
@@wfcoaker1398 I see so you also think we should pay extra to be more like U.S so what you call lazy people and most of us call unfortunate people who do not have jobs do not get treated for free.
@@kimberlytrading2344 Quite the contrary. The "lazy people" comment was sarcastic. That's a common thing to hear American opponents of humane health care say. It's like they think A) their country is made up of lazy people who sponge off everyone else and B) what little they save in taxes will actually pay for their health care. I call it "humane" in contrast with the American system to avoid anything with "social" in it to avoid the hysteria they get into over "socialism". It totally misses the point. I'm a retired doctor. I paid my taxes all my life and never begrudged a cent. I was doing my bit. I'm also a Newfoundlander and the Canadian social contract is important. Canadians help each other out. It's why we joined Canada in 1949. If Canada's social services network, primitive though it was back then, was worth my parents' generation giving up their country for, it's damn well worth defending now.
@@wfcoaker1398 Dear Sir Thank you for your acceptable explanation I thank you for your service to Canadian health service and long may it survive I must admit to loath the US health system and are very much for social health in Canada and the UK. although originally British i now live in a country that mainly uses the US system Having already spent 5000 pounds on a balloon and stent which took 15 mins and i was awake, am aware that should i need another i will be left to die
would ya rather pay 2500 dollars for an ambulance and actually get seen by a doctor or get a free ambulance only to take 3 hours to get admitted in to the hospital before another 3 hour wait to actually see a doctor
With 10s of millions in poverty and at least 10s of millions more not doing much better than that, either scenario could easily become a death sentence unless the system you're describing changes.
@@johnburnscrystaljack totally agree both systems are faulty and both need to change but for non emergency situations you can take yourself to a hospital for less than 2500 dollars but you can't be admitted till the hospital staff say you can and in emergency situations time is more of a killer than the bill you receive after treatment.
@@alanthomas8748 A lot of people don't even seek treatment, for emergency situations or ongoing long term issues that eventually become serious, because of the cost. Medical costs in general across the board are out of control in the US, an alternate system must work since the US is the only major country left in the world where profit is more important than the healthcare itself
@@johnburnscrystaljack not really true though is it . the nhs has a history just as much as anywhere else of refusing life saving treatment over financial constraints. and yes the bills are extortionate in the US but as far as i know they still don't refuse you emergency medical care if you got shot they would save your life then bill you . but again you can die from a heart attack in ten minutes you can not die in 10 minutes from debt .
@@alanthomas8748 I don't think the NHS eventually seeing reduced capacity due to being underfunded for years thanks to a conservative government that's more interested in profit than health is the defense of the American system you appear to think it is
I MADE THE MISTAKE OF GOING TO AN ER TO FIND OUT WHERE MY SISTER WAS IN THE ADJACENT HOSPITAL.
I was asked to fill out a form, but quit when it asked me about my health issues.
"Hey, I'm not checking in to the ER, I just want to know what hospital room my sister's in" I told the nurse.
She took the form, then directed me to the help desk in the hospital lobby.
So,vI left, and went to the desk.
A week later, I got a bill from the ER Dept. for $270 for "Consultation".
Yes really!
I recall in 2003 I had 2 life threadening Asthma Attacks that sent me into a coma, mywife called an Ambulance as I was no responding to her,
Ambulance took 3 minutes to arrived and straight away injectioned with adrenaline continuelly, as I would not respond to Paraemdics, Paramedics fed all medical information was fed back to A&E so the hospital was already prepared, no soon I arrived in A&E the medical staff needed to bring out of the coma, then put me back into a controlled coma, I was incubated on a life support machine for 6 days, I recall I woke up on the Saturday, very confused, very weak, unable to stand or walk severe pain all over my body, a few days after I awoke, I was moved to another medical ward where I received the after care and to help me to walk agian, I was discharged after 14 days of been admitted,
I had been in the US the medical bill would have I believe near enough a half a million, in my native UK country this health care did not cost me anything, and even today still under the care of the hospital some 20 years later it still does not cost me anything,
the US have no health care as such as the health care system is not based on duty of care but on ability to pay like a business, so to call it a health care system is nothing but flawed.
A twin pack of epipens in Australia is $40, majority of prescription medications are subsided. Even a ventolin is 20 bucks
I live in the US. Last fall I had severe shortness of breath and chest pains. Was in the hospital for 3 days and had basically every imaginable cardio pulmonary test there is. Luckily it turned out to be minor, and also luckily we have decent health insurance through our employer. But the final bill was $36,000... for 3 days. The bill almost caused a heart attack just by itself.
😱 $36,000?!
@@ScanningTheMind I know, right!?! Maybe they thought I was THIS guy. ua-cam.com/video/CIltL_Qhro8/v-deo.html
My god
The thing that blows me away about the price of an ambulance in the USA, is how little paramedics get paid. I get the equipment is expensive. Still, it just doesn't balance for me.
Exactly! If the paramedics were paid handsomely the cost might be more understandable
It's pure Greed, plain and simple.
Most paramedics in the US are not employed by the hospital. They are separate private company.
Most US paramedics don’t get health insurance.
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Doesn't matter if you never get into the ambulance you still have to pay for it coming. I got a bill after my dad died for the ambulance. Note that he was DOA. He left in the coroner's van, never got into the ambulance. But because they came we got a bill.
I remember my last job called an ambulance on a woman who fainted and she wouldn't even give them her name because she didn't want a bill and was mad at the manager for calling.
I drove my mom while she was having a stroke to the hospital and my former tenant with a knife wound because ambulance is $2200.Ubers are the new ambulances.Healthcare here in the U.S. is an obscenity.
That is obscene!
Yep my ambulance bill was $1700.
People routinely come to the ER in their own vehicles, even when severely bleeding, and will transport themselves or be moved by family between facilities when a transfer is necessary. Poor people actually are better off than most, as they get government healthcare that is better than what normal working people can get.
That’s a very difficult situation to be in
i had to be transfered to another hospital for emergany by ambulance and it was over 3 grand that was not covered by insurance since i was going out of network and that was just the ride to another hospital not counting the cost of the procedure and hospital stay for 3 days afterwards
Yes we Brits are spoiled by having the NHS, but no one thinks this stuff is free or cheap to do if serious care required. But we do believe it’s a basic human right and the humane thing to do in looking after each other. We ALL pay together through taxes so it’s there when or if we need it
I have quite severe lung problems and I’m on a specialized inhaler which costs $1000/month retail. Thankfully I have insurance which means my co-pay is $30/month and my premiums are roughly $200/month…so still not cheap…but definitely better than $1000! And that’s just for the one inhaler! It’s brutal here in the US.
Ouch!
It’s brutal because if you lose your job, you lose your insurance and you’re screwed.
Just buy insurance if you live in the US. Let the insurance pay it.
Shew!
The music is just SO helpful when trying to hear what they're saying.
Yeah our bad 🤷🏽♂️
But the problem is that the mothers don't either get paid maternity leave you get 6 weeks unpaid leave and it's back to work. And forget paternity leave that doesn't even exist and then raising a child is extraordinarily expensive in the United States there is only tax breaks as well as worrying about them getting killed in a school shooting.
In Australia our system is essentially the same as the NHS where one can use public hospitals or private; this of course depends on the level of insurance and if what you are having done is covered within your individual policy....ambulances are covered through private insurance, government taxes or levy included on electricity bills; depends on where you live.
Interesting. Would you say people are generally happy with healthcare in Australia? Private provision here is at a minimum however, anything remotely high risk tends not to be available privately.
So we live in regional New South Wales, approximately 8 hours north of Sydney and so care recieved here is different in terms of availability; however in general most people here seem happy with the level of care they get, there are those who complajn but when you look at the USA as a prime example we, like you guys have nothing to complain about.
Private insurance is something that less than half the population have, this can be for various reasons but are mainly financial as the cost of this goes up each year, usually in line with the consumer price index. Like the UK our private system compliments the public one in each state; although for anything major or complex you will always be treated within the state system where the only benefit of private insurance is the ability to get a private room where available and choice of doctor/specialist; private insurance here also covers you for things like breastfeeding reconstruction and pregnancy, blood transfusions, diabetes related items and many more.....this however is totally dependent on your level of hospital coverage that you hold along with any waiting periods that you have served prior to any procedure being performed.
Regarding ambulances specifically, in NSW they are a user pays service, unless you hold a pension card, get unemployed benefits or hold a veteran affairs card so for this reason many people hold separate ambulance coverage provided by a health insurer and its something you can buy for about $120 per year per family which saves potentially thousands if you are transported to hospital via ambulance, fees do vary too depending on distance travelled, urgency of care and include a call out fee of about $350; I will say though that if something happens in NSW but you live elsewhere, as did to my father in law the bill gets sent to your address and you take that to your ambulance station (Queensland) and the amount is paid to NSW through your electricity bill levy which all QLD households pay as an emergency services levy of about 3 percent each quarter.
Paying $40 for skin to skin. What are you doing? Hiring someone else to do it? It sounds like the convenience fee online shopping charges you. What? Am i paying you for something you dont need to do?
US, no ambulance, 5 days in hospital. Saline and progressive antibiotics to treat sepsis, 250k$. Ended up paying 10k. And that’s with really good insurance. ..🙄
That’s crazy!
I don't think the people are saying that they think that's how much the procedures literally cost the hospital. I think they're guessing how much people are charged for them. Given these prices are with insurance, the shock is understandable!
I know, we couldn’t believe some of the prices!
Hospital's in the US make millions every year.
Exactly, I'm not sure why the one felt the need to call the man an idiot for thinking ambulances were free. Not everyone has any idea or interest about health costs in the US, it doesn't make him an idiot.
"And breathing is kind of important" I almost stopped breathing after hearing that.
That’ll be $1000 please
They don't bill like 1000 for the room or 800 for the drugs in America if you have private ins or medicare. DRG or diagnosis-related Group means the Hospital and your insurance company have agreed on a flat fee by what you are admitted for or the primary diagnosis. If you have no insurance you could get a bill for 75k for Cancer treatment as an example.If you sue that person's insurance company after a car accident, the money you get from a said accident you will have to pay the hospital back if they treated you. Don't even think about not telling the hospital that you were awarded some money and they will not find out..I don't know how they find out but the hospital will contact you or the insurance and they will have to pay the Lean the hospital has on you before you get your money...
Right now we are getting ready for our daughter to be born, and the cost of the procedure without insurance is actually lower than what it would be with insurance. My cousins bill was 100 thousand usd before her insurance kicked in. But ours is estimated at 10 thousand
That’s a lot of money. Congratulations and hope everything goes smoothly for you guys.
This is why us citizens don’t go to hospitals when they are sick or ill. Most can’t afford it
Sad state of affairs
You say you won’t call the ambulance but that is what we do, we don’t go to the doctor
Do you mean you just don’t go to the doctor because you know it’ll cost a lot?
@@ScanningTheMind yea or call ambulances. It was just funny to me, to hear you laugh and be like “bruv I just wouldn’t call the ambulance”… and yea we don’t lol I’ve taken an uber to the ER way too many times
@@PerksJ haha that’s mad! I suppose the flip side is sometimes people here might inappropriately call ambulances- but it’s sad that if someone genuinely needs an ambulance they don’t call it because of fear of cost
@@ScanningTheMind well it gets abused here too but by people who are wealthy enough for it not to matter. I get healthcare thru my employer and have a pretty good plan so an ambulance ride for me would be about $800. ER admission is $400, then everything, even a bandaid/ibuprofin gets added to the bill from there. For me, a teacher who makes the average american salary, that is pretty much all my savings, but for someone else that may be nothing at all. The worst part is you will never know how much your bill is until you receive it. And even if you are taken to a hospital that is “covered” (only meaning that your insurance has an agreement with them so you will receive treatments for the price it says in your insurance benefits brochure) a certain doctor in that hospital might nit be, so depending whose shift it is could cost you hundreds or hundreds of thousands of dollars if that doctor is “out of network”.
@@ScanningTheMind oh and those numbers are just the co-pay, my premium is about $115 per month and I am SUPER lucky!
I saw a documentary one a women cervical cancer but she had forgotten to tell the insurance company that in her twenties she had trust and they cancelled her health care cover they did not pay anything toward her medical bills.
Crazy!
she had what ??
What is trust?
They say the cost for skin to skin comes from having a member of staff "supervize".
They’ll find any excuse to justify the cost 😂
We all know the NHS is not "free" but free at point of service. Those people interviewed are also paying their taxes into the system, so no need for the Doctors to be so condescending just because they are the general public.
@@sylviasworld9397 We’re not being condescending- I don’t blame them for not knowing how much things cost. Why would they when we never speak about the true cost of a visit to a hospital ? There needs to be a greater awareness of how much healthcare actually costs, otherwise things are often taken for granted.
@@ScanningTheMindSorry but I found it a little condescending or maybe belittling at points assuming that members of the public say free they literally mean free, when obviously there is a cost which is spread across all taxpayers. We know this. Its not my job to know the actual pound for pound cost tbh, but to pay the taxes that funds it.
@@sylviasworld9397 they are being asked to guess how much it costs in the USA, where most things aren’t tax payer funded.
That's why I am glad I am in the UK few.years ago spent 2 weeks in hospital had surgery got seen to by a specialist and of course meds while I was there and glad it cost me nothing cause if I was in America I am guessing I would be mega mega in debt still
Doc reaction vids can be kind of cringe, but I really enjoyed this one. The juxtaposition of two self-assured young docs set against such a laid back and zen environment really work for me. New follow. Look forward to the fresh content and background elevator music;) -Becks
Thanks! Will sift through the rest of our elevator music collection 🤣
@@ScanningTheMind Lord! If you have an elevator music Spotify list, considered yourself unfollowed. Hell, you should have your license revoked! ha
@@ScanningTheMind Universal healthcare first existed in the Soviet Union in 1918. In 1948, Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) stipulates that health is a human right that cannot be capitalized or given a price tag. And after 100 years, healthcare is in 194 countries out of 195 countries in the world, including North Korea. except the USA which still puts a price tag on health. for the reason that this is Universal healthcare is a crime of communism
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Depends on your insurance. Our son had surgery. Just for the surgery alone was 19,000. The surgeon was one of the best. We paid, about 1,700. The insurance negotiates with the surgeon. However, the hospital charged a whopping 75,000, of which we paid 4,000. I am not on my husband's insurance anymore, we had to buy it. It is pretty good so far, but the insurance companies are really pushing for wellness checks and maintenance rather than leaving anything to the last minute. Some medications are not covered. They are tiers. It is very expensive compared to Australia. However, the specialists here, where I live are excellent, and many are from different countries.
Cheers for looking after us guys! Great reaction, you're really cute!
Thanks!
You don’t even want to know how much it cost for ultrasounds, CT scans, surgeries, procedures.
Oh but we do want to know! How much are we talking for a CT scan?
@@ScanningTheMind if I remember rightly it's $3k+? That was within a bill presented to a person who had had a bad accident and had CT scans, x-rays, ultrasounds etc. But the CT scans and in fact the radiology dept charge humongous amounts! The CT scans are THE most expensive scan. The person was in ICU for a couple weeks?/days? But in hospital for a couple /3 weeks and at the end his bill was $376k.
It's a reaction video by another couple of doctors - reading 4 medical bills (including the obstetric one), and reacting. The final bill, although we had no details of treatment etc, was $2m+. Imagine having to be in hospital and getting a $2m bill. Unbelievable.
@@susangamble6038 interesting. I had an MRI done privately few years ago (in the UK) which was a couple 100 £s. Seems crazy that a CT can run into the thousands
@@ScanningTheMind even the ultrasounds can run $1k and over. This is all, of course, charging for those without insurance.
Apparently, people will take their own cars to hospital rather than an ambulance because of the cost. Broken arm, broken leg, concussion, bleeding to death .... it's crazy!
So grateful for the NHS. I worked as a medical secretary to 5 paediatric urologists for 20 years (retired early in 2019). So I know the value of our health service. Sadly, because I worked there I also know all of the problems it faces.
That’s mad!, I had an USS privately in UK (without insurance obviously) and that was £350! Haha I bet you could tell a lot of stories having been a Consultants secretary, you guys always know all the juicy gossip 🤣
I live in southwest US on the Navajo Nation (indian reservation), and my healthcare is covered by the Indian Health Service. I never had to pay for my medication, vaccinations, tests, doctor's visit, etc. But there are some services that some IHS facilities don't provide therefore one has to go to a non-Indian facility which requires insurance. I broke my arm when I was a boy, and my parents didn't have to pay anything out of pocket because IHS took care most of the bill. Recently, I received ambulance bills and I'm waiting for my IHS to cover thee bills. I also signed up for Medicaid because I visited a non-IHS facility for a severe panic attack, and they needed me to sign up for insurance. So, I think IHS is probably the only one form of "NHS" here in thee States.
lol aint that kidnapping that's a goodass point
Kinda is kidnapping isn’t it 🤷🏽♂️😂
@@ScanningTheMind it really is!i can't believe i never thought about that before
my cousin's trying to get her plans together over here too-and she's considering giving birth outside the hospital
I'd love to see y'all look at real life medical bills even after insuramce that we pay hundreds a month for. Just dont watch in the US because you might have a heart attack 🥴
The boys in the new studio!
Too many paparazzi outside the old one, so had to move to a secret premises
My albuterol inhaler is $37.00 - I pay $36.00 annually for a discount Rx program thru my pharmacy. My Rx's are much cheaper thru this discount program than thru my medical insurance - one of my prescriptions is actually free. Some hospital and independent labs allow for patients to self pay for certain labs - the prices are much cheaper. A Chem screen that includes 28 levels of info, including a TSH is $45.00. I've had to pay $95.00 for just a TSH lab.
Insurance companies are having a laugh
@@ScanningTheMind Indeed, all the way to the bank.
How many doctors want to work in a system that demands payment from a mother who wants to hold her baby? What is the first rule? Do no harm?
Hopefully not many…
Canadian doc here. I used to work in ER, and I can't imagine having a patient arrest, not being able to get them back, and handing their family a dead body and a bill for thousands of dollars. That goes against everything I believe about medical practice. I think it is unspeakably cruel, and it violates every ethical principle I've ever held. I'd never be able to be an American doctor.
They are charging you for the 10 seconds it took the nurse or the doctor to hand you the baby. they are billing it as a service.
In the US the first rule is make money.
Of course someone pays for it; that would be everyone, together, so everyone benefits.
That’s fine if everyone gets an acceptable service, which unfortunately I would say we are not in the U.K
The childcare cost can be covered by Medicaid here in the US luckily, I don't have to pay medical bills for my son's birth due to my medicaid plan which allows me to focus just on child support.
Dudes, I have CIDP and Type 2 Diabetes. I have received well over $1.5 million worth of medicines and hospital/in home nursing care over the last 8 years. We gave paid a little over $2,000 out of pocket. I am 100% disabled and every bit of insurance has come from my wife's plan that costs the exorbatant amount of $90 a month. The issue IS NOT the hospitals, it is the employers buying the insurance for their people. They often buy the shittiest insurance possible, add $10, $20, $50 a month onto the cost (saying it is for paying the workers at their company to handle the claims and other BS) when in reality they are pocketing your wages. My wife works for a major wireless telephone company employing a couple hundred thousand people in their U.S. operations alone. For what they have covered we would have gladly paid $200 a month. She is a mid level manager now and so many of her employees, even before the inflation went haywire, said that the $150 a month for the insurance for all 4,5,6,7 people of their family was way too exorbatant. Trips to Disneyland annually, or cruises, or $75,000 pick up trucks was far more important. I cannot bring myself to feel one bit of remorse for these assclowns. It is the "right to free-dumb" that keeps the U.S. perpetually STUPID!!!
Thanks for sharing!
I got a $400 bill after a phone call with my doctor 😐. I tell ppl if I need to go to the hospital just call me an Uber lol.
Sorry you're credit card was declined were keeping your baby until your bill clears lol
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I heard that the us hospitals trump up the cost of the bill and if you ask for an itemized breakdown they will actually come down. Because they quote you the price they send to the insurance companies before they haggle down so if you don't know better you'll be paying way more than necessary
Yeah we’ve heard this before too. Why though?! 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
all-so the fact if you don't have healthcare of any sort you get charged a big fine at tax time and even if you have insurance while private or state run they make you jump through hoops and refuse to cover different things based on insurance and office
That sounds like a nightmare to navigate
We know how much it costs for the NHS that's why we pay tax, I have worked in the NHS for many years now retired. It really gets to me when politicians bang on about the funding that's needed for the NHS, I am now retired, so I don't have to keep quiet. There is plenty of funding in the NHS, it is not getting to the front line staff, or services and equipment. The funding is disappearing into the multitudes of over payed non essential bureaucrats at all the trust head quarters. my rant over with.
music was not necessary
Yeah our bad 🤷🏽♂️
lit ep
the music is way too loud and distracting.
Yeah, our bad on that one.
The problem with the cost of Healthcare in the US is it depends on your insurance. Your insurance company has negotiated what the hospital will charge in private. There's a lack of price transparency.
If you ask for an itemized bill, it'll magically get much cheaper. Socialized Healthcare is unaffordable in the US, on both state and federal levels.
Might be a stupid question- does everyone not ask for an itemised bill?
@@ScanningTheMind No. The vast majority of Americans are terrible at finances. Most don't have a budget, don't know how much is in their account(s) at any given time, and pays whatever they're told to pay. As an American, I've noticed a decline in basic adult skills by Americans over the years, it's quite fascinating.
@@lagon7830 that’s a shame
@@ScanningTheMind It depends on the why.
My theory is 3 major things have caused the decline in basic adult skills.
Laziness, some people just don't want to put the 10 minutes a week into their basic finances, or 15 minutes a week into their investment portfolios.
Parenting, parents who either relied on technology to raise their children, or who are terrible with finances, are almost guaranteed to teach their children poor financial habits.
Mental illness, in the advanced world, including the US, the rate has been steadily increasing. Regardless of the cause, though I theorize the increasingly unnatural lifestyle prevents us from acknowledging and fulfilling basic biological needs, can cause missing skills or the inability to complete tasks requiring certain skills.
It's interesting, but its not possible at this time to truly identify the primary causes, and to determine a solution for them. You'd need alot of data, much of which Americans wouldn't volunteer, to suggest a theory based on more than speculation.
I Absolutely hate, hate these stupid channels that simplify the healthcare system like this. It is a false narrative. Yes, there are private insurances and people do pay more for healthcare. But if you are low income, or can't afford to pay these bills there are programs and state funded medical/medicare that will cover the bill. Why is that never spoken about??? People are so quick to act on things they know nothing about. And if you are over the age of 65, you automatically get medicare, and that is absolutely FREE.
I did not mean your channel, I meant the one that made the original video.
Like you just said, if your income is low enough to qualify for government assistance. Most don’t but also aren’t so wealthy that 3k is no big deal. One of the most popular tv shows was based on a teacher who cooked meth to pay for his cancer treatments lol. Personally I wouldn’t go that route, I’d probably just not get treatment and die. Do you work for the insurance or pharmaceutical company or something lol, why would anyone else defend this?
and i absolutely hate when ppl come up with any justification that the us health care ''it isn't that bad''
How ignorant are these doctors ,stating they think patients should pay for hospital treatment someone does pay ie the patients who pay within their tax and NI
But we don’t think patients should pay individually for their treatments?
The amount we pay in taxes is far far less than what we'd have to pay out of pocket for health care. And we aren't paying for "lazy people", we're paying so the system will be there when we need it.
@@wfcoaker1398 I see so you also think we should pay extra to be more like U.S so what you call lazy people and most of us call unfortunate people who do not have jobs do not get treated for free.
@@kimberlytrading2344 Quite the contrary. The "lazy people" comment was sarcastic. That's a common thing to hear American opponents of humane health care say. It's like they think A) their country is made up of lazy people who sponge off everyone else and B) what little they save in taxes will actually pay for their health care. I call it "humane" in contrast with the American system to avoid anything with "social" in it to avoid the hysteria they get into over "socialism". It totally misses the point. I'm a retired doctor. I paid my taxes all my life and never begrudged a cent. I was doing my bit. I'm also a Newfoundlander and the Canadian social contract is important. Canadians help each other out. It's why we joined Canada in 1949. If Canada's social services network, primitive though it was back then, was worth my parents' generation giving up their country for, it's damn well worth defending now.
@@wfcoaker1398 Dear Sir Thank you for your acceptable explanation I thank you for your service to Canadian health service and long may it survive I must admit to loath the US health system and are very much for social health in Canada and the UK. although originally British i now live in a country that mainly uses the US system Having already spent 5000 pounds on a balloon and stent which took 15 mins and i was awake,
am aware that should i need another i will be left to die
would ya rather pay 2500 dollars for an ambulance and actually get seen by a doctor or get a free ambulance only to take 3 hours to get admitted in to the hospital before another 3 hour wait to actually see a doctor
With 10s of millions in poverty and at least 10s of millions more not doing much better than that, either scenario could easily become a death sentence unless the system you're describing changes.
@@johnburnscrystaljack totally agree both systems are faulty and both need to change but for non emergency situations you can take yourself to a hospital for less than 2500 dollars but you can't be admitted till the hospital staff say you can and in emergency situations time is more of a killer than the bill you receive after treatment.
@@alanthomas8748 A lot of people don't even seek treatment, for emergency situations or ongoing long term issues that eventually become serious, because of the cost. Medical costs in general across the board are out of control in the US, an alternate system must work since the US is the only major country left in the world where profit is more important than the healthcare itself
@@johnburnscrystaljack not really true though is it . the nhs has a history just as much as anywhere else of refusing life saving treatment over financial constraints. and yes the bills are extortionate in the US but as far as i know they still don't refuse you emergency medical care if you got shot they would save your life then bill you . but again you can die from a heart attack in ten minutes you can not die in 10 minutes from debt .
@@alanthomas8748 I don't think the NHS eventually seeing reduced capacity due to being underfunded for years thanks to a conservative government that's more interested in profit than health is the defense of the American system you appear to think it is