If the Bears keep Poles they will lose out on a top tier coaching candidate. No one wants to take marching orders from a GM who lacks the understanding to build in the trenches.
unclear if any coach with experience would want to report to Poles when the big lawyer clown above him makes the decisions, and without access to ownership given the bizarre corporate-esque structure. It’s going to be a real problem. Do you think, for example, Ron Rivera would want to report to Poles or Warren? I highly doubt it.
I think the Bears media is ignoring how Jalen Johnson went off on Flus and blames coaching staff but no one will ask him if he will take accountability for his poor performance this year and not blame anyone else. Good Players make plays in spite of the coaching staff. Obviously the Bears have issues across the entire organization mainly being the players they have are not constant professionals. Whiney little babies blaming everyone else except themselves.
I learned 1 thing today, Caleb would rather be sacked 10 times, than lose a fumble or interception. He was so upset he fumbled , He's never seems upset being sacked, Again blame the OL, Caleb held ball 5-6-7-seconds,sack. Lots on Caleb. my opinion. 3 fired under Caleb, more to come.
Totally agree. Caleb has this record passing streak without throwing an interception and it looks like he is determined to keep that going at all cost to set an unattainable rookie record. At the moment everything else seems to come second to that.
I love that almost everyone still thinks Williams is not a bust. He's putting up some numbers in garbage time of games. Through typically the first 3 quarters he sucks until the opposing teams go into prevent.
I wish it was under different results that I was watching this, but I always appreciate the honest and detailed insight, Dan. Some anger attached to this one, too. That I can definitely relate with.
Might want to change the podcasts name. Bc the Lions and Packers core players haven’t even hit their prime and the Vikings are highly talented. How many rookie/new head coaches want to join this division with a regressing defense which is the only bright spot outside the skill positions(who moore and kmet are already on 2nd contracts)
You're screaming about firing Flus now you're screaming about the lack of success with 3 replacements at HC, OC AND DC? You got what you screamed for . Choke it down
poles has not drafted well maybe thats why he keeps trading our picks away, maybe thats why the packers are younger and better than us, i want poles gone
These guys are probably my favorite Bears podcast. I love their take on not talking about culture or practices. I mean if practice really did go well then would it have looked like that when they played? Come on. Practice might have been fun, or they might have been some excitement, but that product on the field does not show that it was a GOOD practice. Your practice sucked, you sucked, get better, plan better, practice better.
156 sacks given up the past three years, and the season isn’t over yet. In fact 20 shy of the NFL all time record David Carr of the Texans in 2002. Just need 5 per game the last four, and they took 7 yesterday…
Bears 9th loss of the year today ensures they will finish with a non-winning record for the 11th time in the last 12 seasons -- 12-4 in 2018 being the exception.
The rule change is the instant review. The ruling was that he lost the ball on the tuck, making it a fumble recovered by San Fran. I didn't find it confusing. What I found confusing was that Bears only had 2 penalties while asleep.
Bear's fans and the media are the problem. You got what you wanted and you're still not happy. The Bears were in the middle of a rebuild and were turning the corner. But that wasn't good enough for Bear's fans and the media. So now it will be another rebuild.
I remember all the delusional hype during the spring when it was evident we were gonna draft CW. Now we got to rebuild the front office coaching staff and and find some players within leadership and and team work qualities
But hey. It was all justins fault. Not thr bad coaches, not the gm trading talent away, and draftung bad ones, it was all justin. Good the bears got that generational talent at qb now.
How can we be surprised at the outcome of this game when the beginning of the year during these record prediction shows most of the world picked the 9ers to win this game anyway?
Tell 1st How is the commanders QB. doing . 2nd T.B. cannot handle H.C. position 3 the defense needs a new coach, so yes we need to tear down and everyone needs to be looked at. I had to turn off at 1/2! It was torture to watch.
I said it at the beginning of the season 4-13 ! Poles needs to go and Brown is not a HC people. A good HC makes adjustments in the game! Warren is also no good, he just wants a new stadium which is what the McCrookskies want! Sell the damn team already and clean house! 🤬 Same bs every year since 85 wtf!
Tyson never had o line issues.... Tyson never had coaching issues.... Tyson is more accurate... Tyson has better foot work and timing..... Tysons teammates absolutely love Tyson Tyson is not the starter because of politics and politics alone... That's it
Poles fell for the hype mirage QB and thought mR gEnErAtiOnAL would cover up all the holes in the roster. Everyone in the Chicago sports media fell for it too and refuses to admit mR gEnErAtiOnAL has been underwhelming at best. He must have the best PR team in the NFL considering the constant undeserved glazing he still gets
Turns out Chicago Bears beat reporters, 670 The Score, ESPN Chicago were all completely wrong about thos team. Taking the North indeed. This team worst than last years team.
Eberflus below Deball at 30% winning was not a coach you keep but he was a barely competent head coach. The crew they left behind is not a competent staff and may have been the by design, Waldron who is gone is the senior guy but was a nobody before 2018 and had an offensive HC looking over his shoulder. The DC was a line coach and his rushing defenses suck the 3 years he was DC, so you have a line coach who cannot coach or do personnel evaluations for the line, and had a defensive HC making sure things worked and I doubt he will ever be a DC again. The Jets also are no good post HC, but they still have a former HC on the staff and over a decade of coordinator experience on the staff. The President should be involved with money but also the team historian on NFL management GM/coaching/staff league wide and not dabble in GMing, personnel other than cap, drafting. Keep a database of evaluations and rankings of teams and notable individuals annually so you can do better management selections and grab good guys when staffs get fired. They did a poor job filling out this staff and it shows after you remove the HC who might have been the only person who was NFL competent. You should have as many coaches as possible who can do an NFL competent job without a HC looking over their shoulder and helping.
Firing Poles would be dumb. At some point you need to have patience and continuity. Poles has done a lot of good. He could be better yes, but good thing your alls bosses don’t fire you all cus none of you are perfect at your jobs that’s for damn sure.
I listen to a lot of talk radio across genres. As a Lions fan I enjoy listening to Bears radio analysts and hosts berate the Bears organization after each Bears lost. From Jeff Joniak who is a very rude, obnoxious dude to Mully and Haugh who are dumb and whinny and all others who opine fairweather comments one day and condescending thoughts the next, it boggles my mind that the Bears front office is much influenced by these people. Ergo, head coach was fired during the season??? IMO this was a stupid move largely done because of the influence of those whining tv and radio commentators. I think more responsibility for the lackluster season needs assigning to your Bears QB. Anyway, Chicago Bears people in charge: Replace every single host, analyst and commentator with on-air talent more positive, encouraging and respectful of the team and front office. These people should also remember to positively impact, entertain and inform Bears fans and Bears players.
You are absolutely correct. Bears management and the Chicago sports media fell for the Williams hype mirage. And every single Bears talking head would insult you if you expressed any skepticism of mR gEnErAtiOnAL. It's been insufferable since last January
I’m a die hard. I watch all the games even through the treatment era. I turned today’s game off in the first quarter for the first time in my life.
I stay up late watching from Italy. I shut it off by halftime, too
You are not a true Bears fan, probably not even a Chicagoan
If the Bears keep Poles they will lose out on a top tier coaching candidate. No one wants to take marching orders from a GM who lacks the understanding to build in the trenches.
Yeah, Poles must be fired. He doesn't draft well, and FA aren't that great either. Buh bye
the problem is the owners, they only hire a guy like poles because hes a yes man, and thats exaclty why you guys arent landing ben johnson.
unclear if any coach with experience would want to report to Poles when the big lawyer clown above him makes the decisions, and without access to ownership given the bizarre corporate-esque structure. It’s going to be a real problem. Do you think, for example, Ron Rivera would want to report to Poles or Warren? I highly doubt it.
Why does Bears media continue to ignore that the offense was pure garbage in quarters 1-3 even after Waldron got fired? Clowns
They did talk about it.
I miss Nagy
Because it can't be the chosen one qb. Nothing is his fault
@AlYrvan No one said he's blameless.
I think the Bears media is ignoring how Jalen Johnson went off on Flus and blames coaching staff but no one will ask him if he will take accountability for his poor performance this year and not blame anyone else. Good Players make plays in spite of the coaching staff. Obviously the Bears have issues across the entire organization mainly being the players they have are not constant professionals. Whiney little babies blaming everyone else except themselves.
Can we change the name of this podcast already
Yes, call it "Take out the garbage"
Just add a question mark at the end with an lol
A valid statement
“The Dumpster Fire Podcast”
Take the basement
I learned 1 thing today, Caleb would rather be sacked 10 times, than lose a fumble or interception. He was so upset
he fumbled , He's never seems upset being sacked,
Again blame the OL, Caleb held ball 5-6-7-seconds,sack.
Lots on Caleb. my opinion. 3 fired under Caleb, more to come.
Totally agree. Caleb has this record passing streak without throwing an interception and it looks like he is determined to keep that going at all cost to set an unattainable rookie record. At the moment everything else seems to come second to that.
Caleb sucks 😂😂😂😂😂
I feel bad for all bears beat reporters. Being required to watch bears games should be considered torture.
No. They wanted this. They got what they wanted
I love that almost everyone still thinks Williams is not a bust.
He's putting up some numbers in garbage time of games. Through typically the first 3 quarters he sucks until the opposing teams go into prevent.
but Williams was supposed to be as good as or better than Fields out the gate they said. He is the next MaHolmes they said.
@@johnperry5466 they all STILL say this. It's insufferable
I wish it was under different results that I was watching this, but I always appreciate the honest and detailed insight, Dan. Some anger attached to this one, too. That I can definitely relate with.
No preseason reps for Caleb and they had 4 preseason gms....he should of played everyone a quarter n a half
Might want to change the podcasts name. Bc the Lions and Packers core players haven’t even hit their prime and the Vikings are highly talented. How many rookie/new head coaches want to join this division with a regressing defense which is the only bright spot outside the skill positions(who moore and kmet are already on 2nd contracts)
EMBRACE THE TANK.............AGAIN🙃
Clearly the players are not executing. No more excuses by Jaylon, DJ, Kemet or Defense. Bad players blame Coaches
You're screaming about firing Flus now you're screaming about the lack of success with 3 replacements at HC, OC AND DC? You got what you screamed for . Choke it down
poles has not drafted well maybe thats why he keeps trading our picks away, maybe thats why the packers are younger and better than us, i want poles gone
The O Line and D line need serious help.
Justin made that lime look way enter than it was. It it was bad bad with him.
If they lose out , that'll be 11 straight losses! You CANNOT bring back the GM who oversaw that! 😮
These guys are probably my favorite Bears podcast. I love their take on not talking about culture or practices.
I mean if practice really did go well then would it have looked like that when they played? Come on. Practice might have been fun, or they might have been some excitement, but that product on the field does not show that it was a GOOD practice. Your practice sucked, you sucked, get better, plan better, practice better.
156 sacks given up the past three years, and the season isn’t over yet. In fact 20 shy of the NFL all time record David Carr of the Texans in 2002. Just need 5 per game the last four, and they took 7 yesterday…
Promoting part of the problem is a recipe for failure. Ask any successful corporation.
Thought this would be a death spasm game. Bears offense and defense hyped and go win big for new coach. SMFH.
Top 5 draft pick here we go!
I dunno man. Bears are bad but there is a bunch of worse
@peopleschampgarage7869 💯
To be made by Ryan Poles.....
TANK FOR SHEDEUR
Bears 9th loss of the year today ensures they will finish with a non-winning record for the 11th time in the last 12 seasons -- 12-4 in 2018 being the exception.
And that season was a fluke anyway
Dj Moore 27 mil jalon Johnson 25 mil sweat 25 mil poles have to go stars don’t show up
Poles having drafted well either
I agree trade while they have value.
Suggestion for a new name for the podcast: The Dumpster Fire
The rule change is the instant review. The ruling was that he lost the ball on the tuck, making it a fumble recovered by San Fran. I didn't find it confusing. What I found confusing was that Bears only had 2 penalties while asleep.
Another CW train wreck, CW is Justin Fields evil twin.2 good passes a game, and you people never talk about the elephant in the room.
Agreed Caleb is untouchable in Chicago media
Ryan Poles needs to go!
Bear's fans and the media are the problem. You got what you wanted and you're still not happy. The Bears were in the middle of a rebuild and were turning the corner. But that wasn't good enough for Bear's fans and the media. So now it will be another rebuild.
@@TrakSpock1Media is just reporting what they see.
Name change to TANK THE NORTH PODCAST?
I remember all the delusional hype during the spring when it was evident we were gonna draft CW. Now we got to rebuild the front office coaching staff and and find some players within leadership and and team work qualities
Fire poles. He rebuilt the roster exactly how he wanted, got all his guys. This is what it looks like.
But hey. It was all justins fault. Not thr bad coaches, not the gm trading talent away, and draftung bad ones, it was all justin. Good the bears got that generational talent at qb now.
I remember in the early part of the season all the talk about the defense being "elite".....yeah, not so much now.
Caleb sucks too 😂😂😂😂
Who do you fire now?
Maybe the defense is just tired from always having to carry the bears and being on the field so much.
How can we be surprised at the outcome of this game when the beginning of the year during these record prediction shows most of the world picked the 9ers to win this game anyway?
Tell 1st How is the commanders QB. doing . 2nd T.B. cannot handle H.C. position 3 the defense needs a new coach, so yes we need to tear down and everyone needs to be looked at. I had to turn off at 1/2! It was torture to watch.
LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT BEARS HOME GAME IS PLAYED WITH NO BEARS FANS IN ATTENDANCE
Maybe it’s time to change the name of the Take The North Podcast.
I said it at the beginning of the season 4-13 ! Poles needs to go and Brown is not a HC people. A good HC makes adjustments in the game! Warren is also no good, he just wants a new stadium which is what the McCrookskies want! Sell the damn team already and clean house! 🤬 Same bs every year since 85 wtf!
Tyson never had o line issues.... Tyson never had coaching issues....
Tyson is more accurate...
Tyson has better foot work and timing.....
Tysons teammates absolutely love Tyson
Tyson is not the starter because of politics and politics alone... That's it
Until the Bears org starts experiencing financial consequences for their incompetence, there will be no change.
Take the North... lol Cmon
Eberflus was the problem 😂😂😂😂 Bears net 5 yards in first half 😂😂😂 Bears lost by 25 points 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Agree with Grote, that game was boring
Poles fell for the hype mirage QB and thought mR gEnErAtiOnAL would cover up all the holes in the roster. Everyone in the Chicago sports media fell for it too and refuses to admit mR gEnErAtiOnAL has been underwhelming at best.
He must have the best PR team in the NFL considering the constant undeserved glazing he still gets
Turns out Chicago Bears beat reporters, 670 The Score, ESPN Chicago were all completely wrong about thos team. Taking the North indeed. This team worst than last years team.
Disband the team. They don’t deserve to be an NFL team anymore.
Somebody has to be in last place! Bears are good at it!
A bunch of quitters that need to go.
Eberflus below Deball at 30% winning was not a coach you keep but he was a barely competent head coach. The crew they left behind is not a competent staff and may have been the by design, Waldron who is gone is the senior guy but was a nobody before 2018 and had an offensive HC looking over his shoulder. The DC was a line coach and his rushing defenses suck the 3 years he was DC, so you have a line coach who cannot coach or do personnel evaluations for the line, and had a defensive HC making sure things worked and I doubt he will ever be a DC again.
The Jets also are no good post HC, but they still have a former HC on the staff and over a decade of coordinator experience on the staff.
The President should be involved with money but also the team historian on NFL management GM/coaching/staff league wide and not dabble in GMing, personnel other than cap, drafting. Keep a database of evaluations and rankings of teams and notable individuals annually so you can do better management selections and grab good guys when staffs get fired. They did a poor job filling out this staff and it shows after you remove the HC who might have been the only person who was NFL competent. You should have as many coaches as possible who can do an NFL competent job without a HC looking over their shoulder and helping.
Tank wins
Firing Poles would be dumb. At some point you need to have patience and continuity. Poles has done a lot of good. He could be better yes, but good thing your alls bosses don’t fire you all cus none of you are perfect at your jobs that’s for damn sure.
Fire Caleb. He sucks. 😂😂😂
There’s nothing good left
I listen to a lot of talk radio across genres. As a Lions fan I enjoy listening to Bears radio analysts and hosts berate the Bears organization after each Bears lost. From Jeff Joniak who is a very rude, obnoxious dude to Mully and Haugh who are dumb and whinny and all others who opine fairweather comments one day and condescending thoughts the next, it boggles my mind that the Bears front office is much influenced by these people. Ergo, head coach was fired during the season??? IMO this was a stupid move largely done because of the influence of those whining tv and radio commentators. I think more responsibility for the lackluster season needs assigning to your Bears QB.
Anyway, Chicago Bears people in charge: Replace every single host, analyst and commentator with on-air talent more positive, encouraging and respectful of the team and front office. These people should also remember to positively impact, entertain and inform Bears fans and Bears players.
* after each Bears loss
You are absolutely correct. Bears management and the Chicago sports media fell for the Williams hype mirage. And every single Bears talking head would insult you if you expressed any skepticism of mR gEnErAtiOnAL.
It's been insufferable since last January
Bears defensive players were blocked around their neck at their throats and no penalty, what I viewed at the beginning of the game
Again whoever thought a good name for the show should be Take the North should be fired!