Is the Sportster S Still a GIRLS BIKE?
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Remember people: when companies compete, consumers win. You WANT Harley to make competitive bikes, even if you don't plan to buy one.
this is kind of stupid logic. You want good bikes, and hopefully good, sound companies competing. not some dying brand, who leverages gov lobbying and predatory legislation to linger on as some zombie shit show of it's bygone days... throwing spaghetti at the wall.
if it doesn't legitimately impact the market, by being relevant, the other manufacturers won't be put in a position to respond.
It's also perfectly reasonable to wish harley dead... so some other moto manufacturer can take it's place.
@@stephenx2857 I mean I get what your saying based on their previous government cheat code tactics but it's a level playing field now and they're finally adapting. When there aren't artificial sweeteners being the recipe is that competing companies benefit consumers.
I'm just hoping they can survive the crashing wave if this economic bubble bursts in a real ugly way. I think every manufacturer is going to take some damage in the next 5 years. I just don't know if Harley will even have a big enough following to ride out the lows.
I personally wouldn’t care if they were just off the road forever plenty of other great brands competing
@@FinkleIsEinhorn. I hope they die out it’s a crap brand.
Still not what I want
"This bike is too small"
"This bike is a bad cruiser"
Damn you're making me love it lmao
I heard "too small" but immediately thought "uh, you're an above average guy on a 'beginner' aimed bike". Along with the thought of, it is supposed to be the blend of cruiser looks but sporty feel for those looking for a not so HD... HD.
His back side engulfed the seat
same here,i am small guy
@@defeatedhusband1593 I don’t think 120 hp is aimed at beginner lol
Any bike is a girl's bike if a girl rides it. source: a girl
Exactly.
A bike is either a girls or a boys bike depending on who sits on top of it 🤷🏻♀️
@Skr4t 666 and that's in 99% of the cases the person that drives it 🙄
Lofl.
No. Not exactly. Ergonomics have a huge role in this. And lads aren't exactly very similar physiologically to the ladies. I mean obviously that difference isnt enormous but definitely significant. No need to get pointlessly offended here.
Word
it’s funny how the most hated harley is the only harley i like along their lineup (alongside Vrod of course)
Yiis. I loved the V-rod. Yet it was THE most hated. And then they killed it.
Vrod is my dream bike still. Plan on trading in my Indian Scout for one.
Yes, the V-Rod is an absolute beast of a bike. Even the 1st gen with the 1130cc motor was wicked fast let alone the 2nd gen with the 1250cc motor. Absolute amazing motorcycles, Harley would be stupid if they don’t bring it back. This sportster S is cool and all but it’s JUST SOOO DAMN SMALLLLL, a 3rd gen V-rod needs to become a reality
@@MKEJC do you have the scout or scout 60? Just curious because I’m thinking about getting a scout for my next bike and wanna know what you think about the scout since you own one, I had a Yamaha warrior 1700 which I loved and sold it to go back to a sport bike, realized I made a mistake so now I’m trying to go back to a muscle cruiser and that 100hp that the scout is putting down is extremely tempting.
@@kurtmessenger2034 ive had my indian scout for over a year now and love it! Coming from a r6 i wanted a bike with more character n soul but still fast.
The bike pulls, handles the highway great, can cruise at 80-90mph no problem.
Tops put at about 125-130 ish and handles 2 up just fine.
Get the regular scout, the 6th gear is nice to have and i find myself in 6th a lot lol
So it’s fast, light, handles well, brakes well, looks great but doesn’t fit 6’4 dudes
What if you are 6'8" :-(
Judging by some other videos dosent fit anyone 6ft+ comfortably
@@DairyBastardGOW1 if you are 6’8 I’m jealous! Ladies love the 6ft plus. Luckily my wife took pitty on me at 5’11 with boots on
Sounds like a M109R besides the weight 🤣🤣 (765 lbs)
@@darktimbercustomknives6248 oh, nonono, im the chronically underweight socially akward 6'8", the circus freak, if you will
Let's be frank here: Spite is a giant, so it's hard to compare his comfort level to mine.
I'm a 5'8" guy and I'll take it when you're done with it. Tell me it's a girl's bike - I will not care.
I am 5-10 and the inseam don't matter since I am from pre dumb MSF both feet down days. And I am betting this is not going to be comfortable for me either. They are right it looks like a concept, not practical at all. Tiny tank and seat, bad ergo...for looks.
@@MostlyInteresting mid controls are available for better ergo. I feel like the bike is more catered to in town type of riding with maybe hitting local back roads and things like that. I own a road glide currently but in the past I’ve had sport bikes that average about 100 miles before I need fuel again, so the tiny gas tank doesn’t really bother me, especially when you compare it to the Harley 48 and traditional sportsters.
It's the fastest they have !!!
Sadly I'm 6'6'' and this bike, while looking amazing to me, is toy sized once I climb on it.
Hope they make a Sportster XL one day 😅
@@thierryfaquet7405 I hope they start putting Revolution engines in all HD's it's time to step into the now!!!
Sorry spite its not the bike that's small , you're the big fella 😂
I think it's a bit of both
Now I want to see Spite riding a monster.. in part just to laugh about what he considers small and sporty.
I did a test ride there too, 5’9” and didn’t feel cramped at all. Motor put a smile on me and my buddies faces after the first block!
I'm 5'9 also. Would this be good bike for a 300 mile cruise. Thinking change the seat out first and a windshield. Torn on this and a rebel 1100...
@@medlytek I would go with the Harley, hands down. And I'm NOT a Harley guy.
I like the idea of a Harley that can handle curves, performs and goes on a diet.
now it just needs an additional gallon or gallon and a half of fuel to actually get a good range
Id like it a lot better for half the msrp. $15k is kind of embarrassing
@@franciscometis6103 Exactly what I was thinking. This and the Pan Am are there first modern Harleys I would even consider--better yet, I actually really like them! Unfortunately, I'd be making huge compromises over other bikes at that price.
@@TravisTerrell I said this in a standalone post but in a couple of years this will be a choice beginner bike between $6.5k-$8,5k second hand with a milk crate and a 5 gallon spare gas can strapped to the back with a bungee cord.
@@anonym3017 , And another 2” of rear suspension travel.
Old HD fanboys needs to realize this was met to attract different riders. I bet Yammie will have a lot of fun on this bike.
Absolutely. He's the one who should be riding this bike.
don't worry, there will be one in a giveaway soon enough and yam will ride the crap out of it
@@AcidAngel501 man I hope so, we need to mass petition for his opinion after riding one
This is a hybrid, just like we have in the automobile industry.
It's called the SPORTster not the CRUISER
It should have been called the Streetster...
I got my sportster s new back in November 2021 and I’ve put over 3,000 miles on it I absolutely love it I find myself riding it like a sport bike all the time wish I had rears on it though the tech that comes built in is also great cruise control Bluetooth connection and built in gps screen really it’s the perfect bike for a street hooligan like me. it will wheelie it will do burnouts you can get in trouble real quick with this bike haha 😂 trust me I know
"I can't tell if I'm confused or if the bike is confused" best line ever lol
I test rode one. I'm about 5' 10" 175 lbs. If you're not a giant that is overweight, it's a great bike! I've never been into Harleys, but this one changed my opinion. If I had the extra cash, purchasing one would not be out of the question. It had tons of pull and I was shocked by its handling and braking. It seemed great as a cruiser to me. Comfortable, smooth, relaxing, but easily powers up when needed.
Everyone has different opinions. After spending time in the saddle of this one, I can't agree with a lot of his. Oh, and definitely NOT a 'girls' bike.
I’m 5’10 170lbs and i agree with you it’s perfect for me. I bought it brand new at the dealer with a custom exhaust. It’s looks and sounds amazing plus it’s faster than 90% of other harleys.
i appreciate the honest review about ergonomics. it's just not made for tall/big riders. this is a beautiful bike and i want to test drive it!
It’s like Harley finally understood that to seduce new (and young) riders, they needed to build actual modern motorcycles that can turn, brake and not antiquated 2 wheels tractors with 60 years old technology costing 2 to 3 times more what they really should.
Sure they look great and are raw and all, but you can see how much money people throw at them to make them into performance baggers, they change every single part on the bike.
Now for the Sportser S, I’m actually shocked how good it looks, it looks like a custom bike from the factory, it handles well, good suspensions, good brakes, motor is powerful and seems great, and all of that at a really good price! Makes you wonder how much of a rip off they are on the rest of their model.
Except the fact that I’m 6’6 and will look like I’m riding a minibike, everything on that bike makes me want to test ride it! Except the gimmicks I don’t care like motor modes and other things, but they sure look awesome sans seem great to ride!
They have to because if they continue on the path they were on they will be out of business this decade. That's in no way an exaggeration
I’ve got one, am 6’4”. Go test ride if you can fine one? But plan on upgrading the seat to Harley’s only other choice, $300 we’ll spent. As for “gimmicks”, I’m new to riding so appreciate that I can NOT be in Sport mode all the time. It’s frighteningly aggressive and quick. But to each their own.
Dude, honestly I don't know many young that are ready to buy this expensive bike. Yes it is great powerful cruiser but one need a solid job to own one.
You are right. I’m 25 never been into Harleys until I test rode this sportster s. Bought it the next day
When you stop and think about it, your ergo issues sound damn familiar... basically a repeat of every rider over 6' tall on ANY stock HD Sporty. Now, I'm 5'6" with a 30" inseam. I APPRECIATE bikes I can even get my damn leg over, never mind that actually FIT me. Being a bit older and with a bad slower back, I don't reckon I'd have much use for those forward bars though. "Clamshell" position translates to me as two hours riding and two DAYS to recuperate.
That's quite appealing that its cramped for someone who's 6'4 because I'm 5'4 so it'll look and feel great on me.
I like Spite, he's a great guy but please please get someone else on the bike. He's even kind of telling Whitney what to say in her impression side of things. Her line of I don't know if I'm confused or the bike is confused. She talked about never riding that low, that the sport position but feet out was something new to her. However Spite just interrupts and says it's the bike.
I wanna see a softail or a low rider s - esque type of bike with this engine. A modern take on classic Harley styling with good suspension and a fantastic motor would do very well I think
A Dynabro style bike with comfort, clearance and lean angle with this motor would sell like candy.
Slap this motor in the fat bob and I would be sold
Yes please
"Nothing but wheels and a motor", Damn, it's the upgrade to the Sportster Iron, which I personally loved as a styling exercise.
We need to see Spite on a Grom or Monkey now.
Also shows that Harley could make a sport naked if they wanted to.
They already did. A XR1200.
Spite as the butterfly meme with this HD and the Rebel 1100: Is this a sport bike?
Hearing him say it was like a sports bike actually made me laugh.
Seems more like more of a small muscle bike.
This poor guy doesn't know a thing about bikes..
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I sat on one this past weekend, just happened to see a dealership and walked inside. i’m 5’8 and I loved how it felt just to sit. haven’t ridden yet, still working on getting my motorcycle license (life getting in the way) but i’ve had a helmet and other gear for awhile. I definitely have my eyes set on this bike
Wow, this is a really good review. Thank you!!
Love the minimalist looks. I do not need 1990’s huge boom box fairing.
Minimalist? That exhaust is fuckin huge
It's not a minimalist look at all! That exhaust is literally connected to the top of the engine and is straight, the only other bike that does that is the Triumph scramblers and these are twice it's size. Also, those tires are huge and the bronze trims are eye catching. Harley's are not minimalist bikes, they are huge and loud. This bike is something though, not my type but glade Harley is trying something new. I feel like the engine was made for the Bronx bike they canceled.
Will somebody please slap an aftermarket pipe on these for the love of Rossi haha. The stock Euro5 friendly exhaust on these sounds absolutely lame, usually stock harleys actually sound decent, but guessing they had to go to great lengths to make the EU happy with the sound level to sell it in the EU.
Haven't watched yet, but that's a Harley cruiser design I can actually get behind! (Which obviously means die-hards are out, but perhaps HD can will a more diverse group.)
It’s certainly a sick bike. I’d get it in mid controls which is an option. At 5’10 it felt great
looks like HD is trying to get out of their own ass, the engine is a gem, they are into something
then indian drops the price on the FTR and releases a revamped FTR S for 2023. RIP HD
@@franciscometis6103 here in Italy there aren't many Indian motorcycles, HD is much more popular, but not as popular as BMW
And they learned to measure in liters! Haha
@@TravisTerrell it only took them 100 years
I bought one and I really like the bike. That also said I can appreciate why a lot of others wouldn't like it. I have owned a few Hondas which and a night train before this bike. I like its not really a cruiser or a full blown sport bike. I realise there are other bikes that I have not experienced that may be in this category and be really great or better. But I feel like this bike really fits what I am looking for at this moment. I look foward to trying other bikes as well. I wish I got try out all the bike you guys get to try.
I appreciate Harleys recent moves. Really liked my rides on the Livewire. The Pan-America looks cool, and the this is a better sportster.
Waiting to see the price on the Bronx.
Bought mine last year in Aug. 23. Made mine a bit more like a cruiser. Kept the front controls, added reach bars and risers. Also added a rear fender and a mini fairing.Finally starting to get some aftermarket for it. Corbin and saddleman making seats, plenty of exhaust options, different bars, tail delete, and tuning.
Looking forward to see your comparison of the sportster against the rebel 1100, considering where both engines come from, it would be a great comparison.
I agree with everything besides that the sportster s "isn't a cruiser". Just because you are not comfortable on it doesn't mean it's not a cruiser. Hell I ride a M109R and I'm not that comfortable at 6'3/4 (just like the guy in the video) yet I still consider it a crusier. Yes I know the M109R is a muscle cruiser , yet it's still a cruiser
Yes. It’s still a girl’s bike just like any other bike a girl chooses to buy with her money and ride. Regardless, I always liked the Sportster and its iconic look. Was it in need of an update. Well sure. Was it still better than the new and ever so homely Rebel? It sure was to me even with all the power, handling and technology shortcomings that Papa Yam 🍠 says it lacked. Now time moves on and long live the new Sportster and Dirt Glide!!!
Have an R3 rn , just started riding . I’m telling you now the Sportster S is what I’m getting next year .
That bike looks Is diminutive, I enjoyed my time working at the H-D pto plant in Menomonee Falls, WI having the opportunity to ride many different bikes this is a great evolution of the Sportster it is far too small for me at 6 ft. I thought the Buell Blast was small but that's what you expect, but the Road King is my favorite.
So all this being said I think you’ve found the comparison to the Indian FTR,especially I can recall hearing something to the tune of it depends on which standpoint you’re coming from; whether that be from a cruiser or from a sportier platform. Neither the sportster or the FTR,again based off this video,fit into the cruiser category or the sport/naked category. Yes the FTR looks more like a naked and the sportster looks more like a cruiser,but they dance the same line. And that line is this weird new class of bike that we’ve yet to fully understand. Perhaps a comparison between the two would help to light the way of this new/weird path. I think both of these bikes know exactly what they’re about,and I think it’s something of an awakening of a brand new class
And the first vehicle to pass in the background……is a dude on a stand up SCOOTER. It’s like you’re still in Austin
I’d be really interested to see Yam’s take on this bike. He and I are about the same size and build - and I’m a cruiser (Softail) guy who’s been thinking about buying something sportier and more modern. I was looking at something like a speed twin or even a CB650R but I was worried that the CB especially might be too sporty for me.
I’m looking at a Z900rs
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@@unclejj509 Thanks! That’s kind of why I’ve had my eye on that or a Honda. I know Harleys are old guy bikes but the fit and finish is really good and I know enough that I’m probably a little spoiled in that way. I REALLY like the speed twin hahaha
Ok, I'm not a marketing engineer genius...But Harley could have put a full spec revolution motor in the Bronx and congratulated themselves on the big all win...But they didn't. Reinforcing the "are they just stupid?" thought line..
I love the looks
Dang spite said if your 5ft 5 it would be perfect ergos and here i am 5ft 5 and i think the Bike looks great but 15k is a hard pill to swallow.
Fun video, funny how the person Infront of the mic thinks that the noise is coming through yet on this side it sounds clear.
Ok, Harley Davidson might not die a slow death after all. Damn, that motorcycle is sexy as hell.
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I LOVE small POWERFUL bikes. Its either this or the Speed Twin 1200. Can't wait to ride on this summer
Hank 3 t-shirt? Awesome Spite! Good review/ 1st look.
I sat on this bike at Motorcycle Live, one with mid footpegs and the riding position and ergonomics felt great and I’m 6.3
Add a little more ground clearance & suspension, duel 320 mm disks, fuel capacity and better sport bike ergonomics could well be a decent Harley naked sport bike.
I purchased the Midnight Crimson Sportster S RH1250S on Nov 19; never looking back... this bike is sweet, and the more I ride it, the more I love it. Truly, a modern motorcycle for the 21st century, tough, ergonomic, FAST, torque, tech, did I say FAST? and holy cow does it look great!
I'm 102 Kg at 6'1" and this bike fits me like a glove... you need to have the preload set properly; fortunately this is easy with the knob left under the seat (all the way out, then 11 clicks in for my weight). This bike is FINALLY the right weight for the power|torque... its not a small motorcycle; other Harleys are too heavy. (needs to be said)
The RH1250S is going to save Harley-Davidson in my opinion. We finally have a sport cruiser that has power to spare and plenty of torque in the lower ranges where you really need it in an urban setting or up in the twisties too! Can't say enough, I love this bike!
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The bike looks good I love the black on black, I just wish it was a dual exhaust system. I really want to hear it with the bassani exhaust system, I think it would sound awesome. I really like the sportster line and this new edition is truly a compliment to the Harley-Davidson line. I wasn't sure that it was going to catch on but, I think it's newly redesigned line should resuscitate a new breed of Harley-Davidson enthusiasts and generation.
I still have yet to take it out on a lengthy ride to really test the stock ride position but im honestly surprised to say that it oddly feels comfortable, I thought my body would feel a little strained from the forward lean and feet out front, I love the way it feels ESPECIALLY since it weighs the exactly the same as my previous bike at 487lbs (2001 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat. one thing I dont really like about it is how small the tank is lol, my old T-cat was around 5 gallons, I could get around 220-230. BUUUUUUT for how fast and powerful this bike is I think I can manage to try and save fuel with it, I can be pretty easy on the throttle when I need to be. the squidness can wait. Overall I love what they did with this bike, never really liked the previous sportster Harley had so Im glad I got the S
It’s just the right size for me at 5’4. I’m seriously considering getting a sporter s as my 1st bike. Spoke with a Harley dealership and they told me this is a great fit for me and a great beginner bike.
I own one and I love it. This is only a beginner bike if you keep it in rain mode. This bike is a monster!
Dude, buy a cheap old bike first, get your basics sorted on something that isn’t 15k….
I'm sure Sturgis is a great place. seeing the amount of Harley's on the road I'd love to bring my z900 with my folks and see them reactions.
Really reminds me of the Indian Scout Bobber from the riding camera view.
Did you get to sample one with Mid Controls vs Forward? Any have screaming eagle exhaust for more sound? Hopefully they bring the bronx to market. Good reviews of both Pan Am and Sportster S :)
Spite I hate to tell you the average American male is 4 inches shorter than you. They’re not going to design a bike around you lol
Right… This is the only small bike they make. If you can't fit on a Road King, is't something wrong with the person. Or get a big truck… And I mean a Semi… Your ego is to big to fit on a bike, then. 🐣👀
Yea,
I'll have to agree with some of you commenting!
I'll be frowning on this bike,
"if I don't buy one!!"
My last motorcycle, I would take to the drag-strip, it was an 85 Vmax, that I kept until 2005, when my house burned down, and took my motorcycle with it. Then after I lost the bike, I quit riding altogether till 2017, when I came across a deal, that I just couldn't pass up! An 08 Sportster Nightster 1200 which I have to this day! I have really modified it, So making a transition to the Sportster S, would make me even happier!
(I'm 63yo)
"I will own a Sportster S machine!"
I’m 58 years of age 170-180 lbs 5’6” height. Been looking at this as a commuting bike as the wife and I already have a triglide. Do you feel my size would work well with this bike? Thank you. Your reviews are amount my favorite when researching new bikes.
I ride a 2019 FTR 1200s like your new giveaway. Please compare the sportster to the FTR. Love all your videos.
Compare the 2022 FTR to the Sportster S. The canyon carving is better with the 17s.
Spite I don’t think you’re the best person to get on these average person sized mini cruisers because none of them are good cruisers for you haha
You need to get on the Vulcan Vaquero, Road Glide or something along those lines with how big you are homie
Yeah, but Whitney said she felt cramped? Something here doesn’t add up.
@@cwroberts79 it kind of seeemed like Spite told her what to think and she kind of agreed. She said the low position was something different for her and she could feel kind of cramped. I didn't catch whether they had the mid controls or not.
@@cwroberts79 I’ve always felt like that they kind of tell her what to say all the time lol
Hmm you guys are right. They always do kind of lead her like she’s a witness saying what they want her to say.
@@cwroberts79 exactly, because why would she feel cramped like he did lol
I think in a year or 2 when H-D refines this bike more it’s going to be an extremely fun and appealing bike. It’s kinda odd right now, still cool, but just needs some refining
Good point.
Wish I was not on the other side of the state in Sioux Falls or I could try to visit you lol!
This thing with mid controls and some risers for the bars would be perfect for shredding corners
Any bike that’s not a Harley can shred corners compared to this.
@@alexduey7868 please tell us about your test ride of the Sportster S? Oh, you haven't taken it for a ride and you are acting like you know how it handles. You obviously have a bias against anything Harley even when they do something different but that is okay because guys like you hate what they can't and will never have so much that they disregard it before ever riding it. You sir, are a clown. If you don't like all motorcycles than you are just as much of a weirdo as the Harley Elitists that won't consider anything else.
I test rode one with the mid controls and it really lets you carve the corners. Yea it feels a little bulkier than other sport bikes but I’m sure it’s something I’d get used to with more time. I only had like 20 minutes on it
Everyone always forgets that the sportster was intended to be a small sporty racey cruiser option to the big bulky FL models of the time..
With that being said, they need to put the 1250 engine in the Nightster and also make a larger FX variant with the 1250 engine in it, either a Softail or Dyna..
I love the look of the bike has a flat tracker vibe to it and pit bull stance, sound like they have the foot controls in the wrong position tho
Do you think that a higher seat and maybe different handlebars would make it fit you well, or would it require significantly more?
Since there was a lot of discussion of about properly fitting on the bikes, it would also be helpful if we knew how long the testers' legs are. Heights are not as useful, since I have known people of the same height that had a four-inch-difference in inseam length.
Thanks.
Went to Sturgis back in 17. At the bar the Bar Tender was telling us, we need more hell raisers like you young guys to come in here. Look at this place, it's a damn geriatric clinic. As I looked around I saw what she meant. Maybe this will get the younger crowds into the Harley scene. Love the sportester, but those pipes make it's butt look big. That would be the first thing I'd change out. Other than that, it is quite a looker. The ergonomics are not new, I have a Triumph Bonneville America that has the same type of ergos. It does feel like a sport bike, until you remember how far forward your feet are. Kind of like the Duc Diavel. I initially thought, how the heck is that considered a cruise..... No way. Then I sat on it and realized the peds are well forward, just like a cruiser. Good on you Harley, nice to step up to the plate with good offerings this year vs the 500 and 750 bikes you put out a few years back.
Harley’s remind me of gas guzzling American excess SUV’s with huge fairings, loud pipes, and loud 1990’s boom boxes. This Sportster S is an everyday persons bike primarily for around town. Other Big Harley’s with feet forward lounge chair for straight freeways for longer trips. You could add bags and a wind screen on this bike.
Hard to add bags with those pipes
OK so this is one of my favorite motorcycle review channels in all of UA-cam, but I must say I am highly disappointed with your review on this beautiful new Harley Davidson. Guess what, not everybody that’s a subscriber of this channel is over 6 feet tall! I’m a short man, I am 5’5” and I am really excited about this new motorcycle, in fact I’m hoping to own one by the end of the year. Just because a motorcycle is made for shorter riders it doesn’t mean it’s a bad bike! yes it’s a little confused, but to me that just makes for an exciting new approach to riding and a gorgeous motorcycle.
Reviews are subjective, he is giving a review on his experience and it's a honest one. How can you be disappointed with this review when he literally said so many great things about this bike, he never said it was a bad bike but the ergonomics are bad for tall riders, which is pretty much falls in line with what other reviewers have been saying. Even with front controls he looked cramped. The MX/Miata is a great sports car but tall people will feel cramped, doesn't mean it's a bad sports car. In fact, he praises the engine and can't wait to see what Harley will do with it on other models. He pretty much said the bike is perfect for you.
Finally a good bike.. after 100~ years, about time.
Agree… it’s probably way over spring for the intended sized rider. I also can’t stand the ergos of forward controls on something designed to carve canyons. Just build the Bronx!!! Give it a windshield and bags then take my money…. I’d like to see this engine in a Ducati super sport form factor.
I would have liked to hear more from Whitney without spite guiding the conversation. I want to hear her thoughts without influence.
Hey do you think they should put that engine in a chassis of an live wire? Maybe they will go ahead with the Bronx if it goes well? That would be awsome
Its small, but compared to other (smaller) bikers I think, dimensions-wise, it is at a moderate size. Harley trying out a new platform is a good stepping stone for future development. Also, the 'smaller' dimensions mean it's a lighter bike at a claimed 228kg WW which may allow it to be more accessible to more different level of riders (maybe? idk).
The is not small, is normal sized.. Spite is the one that is too big.
I just want something to tool around town on short rides. Even if I have to replace the seat with something more comfy it's got everything I want. I don't like sport bikes. I want something that's in between a cruiser and a sport bike. Your description of this bike actually tells me it's probably what I want. I'm a few inches shorter than you so I'm curious to get a test ride to see how our experiences might differ.
Harley makes a GOOD sportsbike? Now I am really curious what Yammie thinks of this bike but apparently he was not with you there, yes? Regarding the "clamshell posture" that felt weird for Whitney, it can be bought with mid controls if I remember correctly.
The engine was designed for the Bronx in mind, which was suppose to be Harley's sports bike, but I guess they didn't feel like it was ready or their was no market for it. IMO, the Pan America probably wasn't going to sell well so bringing out the popular Sportster name would sell more. If both these bikes sell, they will bring back the Bronx using this engine. Testing the waters.
Damn those power numbers are nice
I was about to buy one. Then I tried the scout bobber by Indian. Sooo glad I did. I f’n love my Indian. Of all the bikes I’ve had it’s my favourite
Would risers or like 10” bars help the ergonomics? I wonder if they intended it to be highly customizable like the old sportys?
Just picked up mine today and coming from the VFR this bike is very nimble. And dat torque. Whoof! This isn't a Harley, it's a KTM if that gives you some idea. It's fast. VERY fast.
I’m 5’7 @ 150lbs and I rode the Sportster S this past Saturday, it fit me perfectly, but it really just felt like I was riding a V-Twin with 2 Wheels and a Handlebar LOL you really wanna lean in and grip with your knee’s when you crack that throttle 😂
That said, the turn in feel was sketchy AF 😬
Cool bike though 🤘🏻
If only Harley would get rid of the “forward mids” and gave this bike true mid controls…
@Mr Thunder only those forward mids.. im talking about TRUE mid controls. like the foot position of an RnineT or a MT09. Harley mids.. are not mids...
@@RTJsims since harleys came out decades before the other companies harley mids are true mids other bike mids are rear sets and those other bikes you listed are not even in the same category. The sportster s is a bobber type bike like the scout
Good to see Harley Davidson investing money in research and development as apposed to chrome and paint. This bike looks good. Water cooled, that's a plus.
Looks good, the only thing I see being a problem is the tank being so small. Great looking bike tho!
Well i got a 23 sportster s just recently im 5ft 10in and fit well on it... i do say a seat upgrade and windshield is needed for hour and half plus cruises and if you are 135lbs like me you will have to be carefull as the bike will like to shoot out from under ya lol.
Giant's first complaint is “bike too small.”
Great vid
My local Harley dealer doesn’t have them for show, they can get me one with a deposit down but not even able to sit on one makes me iffy on leaving a deposit …
I would love to see how this bike compares to the Rebel 1100 given that they are both under the sporting cruiser category and put down similar power.
I rode my Sportster S from San Diego to Sacramento but not after a few simple modifications haha
Thank you Spike for proving my point, and I haven't even ridden the bike...
I think they nailed itnpadt of the sportster charm is its stupid in many ways but it's fun as hell this bike is a throw back to the original in the 50s it was a sports bike then too
Best analogy yet. `Feels like I should be piloting a helicopter` :)
I think this is when some viewers should check out a history lesson that Shadetree pointed out. This is Harley's classic take on a sport bike, when I say that, I'm talking about Sport Bikes in the BEGINING (60s-70s). That's literally where the name "Sportster" comes from. Later down the road, you had variations like the XR750 and XR1200, like they would ride on Flat Track and what Evel Keneval used to ride. This is what that is, a reimaging.
Let me start this by saying, I am not a Harley Davidson guy but damn I really want a Sportster S
Manufacturers need to make bikes for big guys. Even offering ergo packages like the Vulcan S would be great.