Gio is usually one of the best characters at killing Eddie, 2K gets through the pierce gap and reaches really far, and you basically can’t frog vs her on the ground because her dash and a lot of standing buttons go under it. I started doing strings that had some bigger gaps because daze wasn’t hitting 2K on pierce so that sort of told me he hadn’t studied super hard vs zato beforehand
As someone who plays casually watching hotashi play and become a metaphorical pain train is scary. Dude resonates with Nago so well it's such a joy to see.
Sorry Hotashi nice win and all but what you didnt account for is me on twitter saying Nago is broken and takes no skill therefore youre results are completely invalidated gg shake my hand
seems like jonahan doesn't really unsummon very often, he's always spending the whole eddie bar and then is forced to play defensively. is there a reason for that?
One of the other contributing factors to Daze's loss vs Jonathan was that Daze always used delayed pressure options when doing a block string and got smoked in panic spots every time
I know Hotashi works hard for his wins, and it's not all Nago But holy crap it's really frustrating to see 30% of someone's lifebar be cleaved off by one button after a clean round
I can't imagine how people avoid fearing each engagement as if it could be their last. The volatile nature of this game even makes me even as a spectator anxious lmao. You really feel bad everytime Nago gets going.
@@AbhorrentRose You just accept it for what it is, really! And outside of tournament, there's literally no stakes, so people trying to get better should feel encouraged to make mistakes and learn from them, instead of worrying about winning.
So I'll just say, Zato is a pretty bad matchup for Nago. He has a lot of tools that can stuff Nago's ability to advance and Oppose eats up Nago's big buttons. If I remember right Tene was saying during that he personally has trouble with the Nago matchup, and like you said Hotashi was running hot. I think that's what was going on in the final set despite it being a bad matchup for Nago on paper.
There were a few moments where I thought Jonathan played a bit too aggressive when he finally had an advantage. Sometimes he would lose Eddie and instead of backing off and playing with the fact that Nago has few ways to approach at high blood even against an Eddie-less Zato, he would run in and immediately eat a counter hit and die.
The ability to just confirm any random hit into wall break from nago is just too good, it even makes Sol jealous. Also you can't really make mistakes against Nago at all, as it will cost you at least half hp or potentially a round, while he can make multiple mistakes and still somehow alive.
Only when he is low on blood meter. He's a resource character. If you get hit when he has all his resources left to spend them you pay for it. If you force him to spend while not getting hit he CAN be put into a bad spot against a character like Zato who can zone him a bit. Hotashi was just super on point against Jonathan and it never really came to that situation. Now we gotta see him vs Latif.
@@XFR18 But lets not forget how long his recovery is, and that bloodrage makes you lose all special moves, 50% of hp, and a turn, And that the only way to get out of it is a super (50%meter) with a 3 second recovery
@@XFR18 That's literally every game ever lol. Most people won't understand the nuance of what's happening if they aren't playing at or near the level of gameplay they are watching. You aren't saying anything profound, or anything that discredits Strive in any way.
@@XFR18 It matters a lot of time if you know how to play against nago, play defensively and then when he get to 50% blood, rush him, he wont be able to do much specials and his dp is now a death sentence, The reason this doesnt matter much with hotashi is because he s litterally the best at it. Nah dude, just get gud, "tiers" nowadays dont matter
Holy crap. These explanations make me feel like a first grader. Who the hell needs an explanation of what's going on in this lazy ass game that even Daisuke Ishiwatari is embarrassed about gameplay-wise?
@@Goomenstein Every time I see this guy's face in an interview, he has the most stretched out smile I've ever seen. It looks so forced, he might as well have pins holding up each side of his cheeks.
@@pilotomarcos610 The gameplay for Strive is not part of his creations. He has almost no involvement in Guilty Gear's gameplay anymore. Even some of the people who originally worked on Guilty Gear's gameplay in the past quit because they hated the direction Guilty Gear was going. Almost none of Team Red remains and has been replaced by people who have 0% of what Guilty Gear's about.
Some of the worst fighting game matches I've seen. Every moment bored me or just pissed me off with how either braindead or boring it was. Why the fuck was I robbed of seeing the series I loved grow, just for a bunch of people who wanted a bland, mediocre experience?
@@Eaguru Yeah, thanks for proving my point. Instead of having some point to make, which you don't so instead you play games like Strive cause you never wanted to learn, you make some half assed, 4Chan, lazy response. It represents you and this game pretty well. Just a waste of space in a world with little variety.
@@Siberianhusky89 Strive is much more simple compared to its predecessors, that’s for sure, but saying that people play Strive because they don’t want to learn is just arrogant and opinionated. Even the most simple of fighting games has a lot of skill and fundamentals involved. You don’t have to like Strive, I even understand why some people don’t, just don’t attack people for playing it.
LN, buddy, people have tried to argue with you for the last year, but you just keep whining about how the game sucks and isn't as good as all the old games, refusing to even acknowledge that the game can be enjoyable. I really recommend a trip to a therapist to figure out why a game makes you this angry, as it's not healthy behavior at all. A reasonable person would just stop watching it, realizing it's not for them.
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Gio is usually one of the best characters at killing Eddie, 2K gets through the pierce gap and reaches really far, and you basically can’t frog vs her on the ground because her dash and a lot of standing buttons go under it. I started doing strings that had some bigger gaps because daze wasn’t hitting 2K on pierce so that sort of told me he hadn’t studied super hard vs zato beforehand
As someone who plays casually watching hotashi play and become a metaphorical pain train is scary. Dude resonates with Nago so well it's such a joy to see.
Sorry Hotashi nice win and all but what you didnt account for is me on twitter saying Nago is broken and takes no skill therefore youre results are completely invalidated gg shake my hand
wow yer spittin fam
hotashi in shambles right now, you didnt have to do the man like that :(
The FGC will never recover from a ratio that large!
twitter option select is OP
Hotashi flat out said Nago is the reason he's in grand finals. He doesn't care about validation
Daze: I don’t know what to do against Zato.
Hotoshi: I’ve been training with monks in the Himalayas to beat Zato.
4:27 Gio Drill is barely less damage than 5[D], but builds more meter. DP is less damage than 214k, which is less damage than Drill.
seems like jonahan doesn't really unsummon very often, he's always spending the whole eddie bar and then is forced to play defensively. is there a reason for that?
Some nice colour 9 enjoyers in this tourney.
One of the other contributing factors to Daze's loss vs Jonathan was that Daze always used delayed pressure options when doing a block string and got smoked in panic spots every time
I know Hotashi works hard for his wins, and it's not all Nago
But holy crap it's really frustrating to see 30% of someone's lifebar be cleaved off by one button after a clean round
Risc+counterhit on zato is pretty expected. Zato has nuts damage so I wouldn’t exactly complain about that aspect in the match lol
I can't imagine how people avoid fearing each engagement as if it could be their last. The volatile nature of this game even makes me even as a spectator anxious lmao. You really feel bad everytime Nago gets going.
@@AbhorrentRose You just accept it for what it is, really! And outside of tournament, there's literally no stakes, so people trying to get better should feel encouraged to make mistakes and learn from them, instead of worrying about winning.
@@XFR18
Sol ? :)))))
Consider getting good scrub
Props to Hotashi for making people tight about Nago. Winning tournaments? That's alright I guess
i love Hotashi da beast
anyone have daze's twitch?
Letsdaze_
@@ThotBusterNo1 cheers
They're seriously using "upper" and "lower" instead of winners and losers now? Hollyyyyy. What a world we live in
So I'll just say, Zato is a pretty bad matchup for Nago. He has a lot of tools that can stuff Nago's ability to advance and Oppose eats up Nago's big buttons.
If I remember right Tene was saying during that he personally has trouble with the Nago matchup, and like you said Hotashi was running hot. I think that's what was going on in the final set despite it being a bad matchup for Nago on paper.
Nago relentlessly practicing the matchup with Latif didn't hurt tho, haha
There were a few moments where I thought Jonathan played a bit too aggressive when he finally had an advantage. Sometimes he would lose Eddie and instead of backing off and playing with the fact that Nago has few ways to approach at high blood even against an Eddie-less Zato, he would run in and immediately eat a counter hit and die.
Lower semi lol.
The ability to just confirm any random hit into wall break from nago is just too good, it even makes Sol jealous. Also you can't really make mistakes against Nago at all, as it will cost you at least half hp or potentially a round, while he can make multiple mistakes and still somehow alive.
Only when he is low on blood meter. He's a resource character. If you get hit when he has all his resources left to spend them you pay for it. If you force him to spend while not getting hit he CAN be put into a bad spot against a character like Zato who can zone him a bit. Hotashi was just super on point against Jonathan and it never really came to that situation. Now we gotta see him vs Latif.
@@GriFFonRec4 I'm looking forward to that match too
@@XFR18
But lets not forget how long his recovery is, and that bloodrage makes you lose all special moves, 50% of hp, and a turn,
And that the only way to get out of it is a super (50%meter) with a 3 second recovery
@@XFR18 That's literally every game ever lol. Most people won't understand the nuance of what's happening if they aren't playing at or near the level of gameplay they are watching. You aren't saying anything profound, or anything that discredits Strive in any way.
@@XFR18
It matters a lot of time if you know how to play against nago, play defensively and then when he get to 50% blood, rush him, he wont be able to do much specials and his dp is now a death sentence,
The reason this doesnt matter much with hotashi is because he s litterally the best at it.
Nah dude, just get gud, "tiers" nowadays dont matter
Holy crap. These explanations make me feel like a first grader. Who the hell needs an explanation of what's going on in this lazy ass game that even Daisuke Ishiwatari is embarrassed about gameplay-wise?
Ur mom
"Game that even Daisuke Ishiwatari is embarrassed about gameplay-wise?"
Did you read that on reddit? lmao
@@Goomenstein Every time I see this guy's face in an interview, he has the most stretched out smile I've ever seen. It looks so forced, he might as well have pins holding up each side of his cheeks.
@@Siberianhusky89 He fucking loves his creations lmao
@@pilotomarcos610 The gameplay for Strive is not part of his creations. He has almost no involvement in Guilty Gear's gameplay anymore. Even some of the people who originally worked on Guilty Gear's gameplay in the past quit because they hated the direction Guilty Gear was going. Almost none of Team Red remains and has been replaced by people who have 0% of what Guilty Gear's about.
Some of the worst fighting game matches I've seen. Every moment bored me or just pissed me off with how either braindead or boring it was. Why the fuck was I robbed of seeing the series I loved grow, just for a bunch of people who wanted a bland, mediocre experience?
Cope
@@Eaguru Yeah, thanks for proving my point. Instead of having some point to make, which you don't so instead you play games like Strive cause you never wanted to learn, you make some half assed, 4Chan, lazy response. It represents you and this game pretty well. Just a waste of space in a world with little variety.
@@Siberianhusky89 Strive is much more simple compared to its predecessors, that’s for sure, but saying that people play Strive because they don’t want to learn is just arrogant and opinionated. Even the most simple of fighting games has a lot of skill and fundamentals involved. You don’t have to like Strive, I even understand why some people don’t, just don’t attack people for playing it.
LN, buddy, people have tried to argue with you for the last year, but you just keep whining about how the game sucks and isn't as good as all the old games, refusing to even acknowledge that the game can be enjoyable.
I really recommend a trip to a therapist to figure out why a game makes you this angry, as it's not healthy behavior at all. A reasonable person would just stop watching it, realizing it's not for them.
@@athraos2466 holy crap I just realized how much he’s commented about this.