He even stole the show in transformers as that car dealer with bumble bee kat williams is right he is the true king of comedy and will not be replaced@@therealmarlonbellamy
CAMP 8!!!! Melvin didn’t file that appeal for Claude because he was busy trying to get with Daisy. Here are some fun facts: Eddie Murphy & Martin Lawrence were also in Boomerang, Eddie Murphy & Miguel Nunez were also in Harlem Nights, Martin & Migel Nunez were also on Martin & in Life, Martin & Goldmouth played by the late Michael Taliferro were also in Bad Boys, A Thin Line Between Love & Hate & Martin, Guy Torry & Anthony Anderson were also in Trippin, Martin & Anthony Anderson were also in Big Momma’s House, Martin & the late Bernie Mac were also in What’s The Worst That Could Happen, Miguel Nunez & Anthony Anderson also appeared on The Bernie Mac Show, Willie played by Obba Babbatunde, Miguel Nunez & Bokeem Woobine were also in Black Dynamite & Eddie Murphy & Anthony Anderson were also in You People.
RIP Bear Taliferro. That cornbread scene truly made the film for me. I never thought about that angle with Claude's cousin, but all it told me was lawyers were definitely shiesty then even if you were related to them.
i thought about a few years ago. This was indeed a slave movie. There were only black prisoners and hoppin Bob was like sambo. Unfortunately, there are a lot of hoppin Bobs in the black community, especially in the entertainment industry.
Camp 8. I remember thinking that Martin and Eddie had great chemistry in this film. It also showed Martin's more dramatic side, which I was impressed with, especially when he told off Ray about how they were stuck together for 12 years. Also, funnily enough, Martin's daughter is with Eddie's son. They are practically family now.
I did 13 months in the pen, and to make the day go by, you have to create activity. I had a kitchen gig working lunch and dinner, and when I wasn't working, I would play basketball. I found like minded guys who were from my are, and so at nighttime, we would all shoot the shit until lights-out. Of course, thoughts of the world and freedom came frequently but I trained my mind to not think too passionate about it. Tbh, the only time that things got tough for me was whenever I made my phonecalls home and the 15 minutes would fly by and afterwards I would be in Mt feelings. But to counter that I would start card or chess games with niggas to occupy my mind. All in all, you have to keep busy cause soon as you have too much time to sit and think, the sooner you'll be in your feelings and the days seem longer. Oh and never , I mean NEVER count the days lol, I did but I shouldn't had. Easier said than done.
Yes, but the thing we were really talking about about, as opposed to cheit chronological age, is when they became famous. Although Martin was around playing roles since the early 80s, he didn't really make it until House Party, and he wasn't huge until the 90s.
I really appreciate that so many of our viewers are on point with this. You're absolutely correct. Most people don't "get" this, which is why we try to help them see the connection and understand the systemic dynamics at the same time.
@@AxiomAmnesia yall break it down where the goats can get it as Joe Madison would say. Always nice seeing new content 🙌🏾 It's yall having viewers who already know for me! The right people follow your page 💅🏾✨
52:19 the rock thing was always a part of the movie that I never understood bc it implies that he can’t count. However, we do hear him count somewhat when he says ny #1 and ny #2. Also, later wen they escape, he knows that someone is missing wen it appears his count is off wen he’s doing bed chek. Also also, how does he know that he’s missing any rocks if he can’t count.
I'm from Connecticut and when I used to spend the entire summer in South Carolina I've always had to go to the family farms and "Get that uppity up North mentality out of me" sloping hogs, feeding goats ,cows ,ducks and chickens the country was rough on me. I even got attacked by fire ants feeding the chickens. Til this day I only go into the country in the daytime and not in the fields or I'm in Colombia the 5 points metro. At least Hootie and the Blowfish is from there.😂
I basically was explaining being mixed from Connecticut people had a different look when it came to me they "Broke me in" with farm labor. Because I was a Red City Boy!!😮😮
Camp 8!!! Aww a short video. I could listen to you guys for 3 hours. Both of you have calm voices that can put my insomniac butt to sleep. And yes, I will wake up and rewatch...lol
54:14 they had to be running for awhile tho bc Mississippi state prison is in parchman, Ms and it’s said that they made it to the tallahatchie river before they got caught. Walk’n distance from the two is 15 hours and some change. But that does cause a plot hole bc if they were that far ahead and bob them didn’t start chasing until nightfall, it does bring up how did they catch up so fast.
So, they weren’t “like” slaves or “essentially” slaves or slave “adjacent”. According to the 13th amendment, which did not abolish slavery, but merely made it conditional, they WERE slaves.
all prisoners in the USA are slaves and police are slave catchers. It is 2024 and you can buy stock in private prisons. Black Americans and other groups are used for capitalism. Glad to see another 13th amendment aware individual ✊🏾🙌🏾🫶🏾
Martin & Eddie Not 10 years apart 😆...no disrespect of course....Eddie is born in 1961 and Marty Mar is 1965 4 years apart they are in the same age bracket
Sorry we explained this in a confusing way. We were not trying to emphasize their chronological ages so much as emphasize they were in different comedic generations. We know Martin was technically around during the early 80s, but he wasn't even starting to get big until the late 80s. And he wasn't huge until the 90s. Whereas Eddie was huge at least 10 years earlier. That's what we were trying to explain. Notice how we talk about comedic generations right after we talk about their ages. That's where we were going with it. 😊
Camp 8 also when I did my time I would think back and also would imagine life when I got out and imagine a life where I wasn't in their to help cope but also find other things in their to help pass the time like read and write.
Y'all probably going to do a breakdown and fan theories on some of these characters, but i have a fan theory on Hoppin Bob and Winston Hancock. Hancock represents Claude if Claude fully gave in into the criminal underworld and Hoppin Bob is Ray if he gave into the system
I love this channel so much I just became a new member. Great review of another classic film. By the way, have you seen the movie "Origin" by Ava Duvernay? It had me in tears. I don't usually make requests, but I would love to hear your thoughts and analysis on the caste system in U.S. and how it's interconnected with the Holocaust. That would be a deep, eye-opening conversation I'm sure. If you've already covered it, please let me know where to find it. Thank you.
Welcome.and thanks so much for your support of the channel. It means more than you know. We've seen the movie Origin. 😊. I will make sure we add it to the list of things we try to release for members, if not for the entire public. ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks so much and we appreciate you joining us with your membership! We saw Origin, and we have so much to say on the caste system. We wanted to also listen to the book on which it was based so that we make sure we are getting a true representation of the author's position before we provide a review. This is one of those movies that deserves a bit of extra research. It's in the queue--a very long queue though. Maybe we can do something short just for the members that will give some thoughts on the overarching theme though. I'll see what I can do!
But if you jokingly think about it the north is more advanced than the south even during this time especially with schooling. For example travelers who moved to the south had already learned certain subjects.
48:22 they got life not a life sentence. Two different things. I know it’s a matter of semantics but still, and no I don’t believe the cousin filed the appeal. He prolly been plotting on her and took advantage of the situation. Prolly even used that as a talk’n point to woo her over.
Camp 8 and wow as usual you guys make me think 🤔 of something I never thought of which is Life is a "slave movie" definitely get it from all the points y'all made
I don't think fearing consequences has anything to do with being smart. They were conditioned not to run, and I'm sure someone was left behind with a gun. Conditioning, fear for their lives and the repercussions are why they didn't run... The same reasons why most enslaved people didn't try to run North to freedom.
The passage of time in the Melvin situation isn’t really made known. I like to think Melvin tried, and as he tried he fell in love with her. Since the appeal was denied they gave into their feelings.
Claude didn't borrow money. He couldn't pay for his dinner that's how he got in this. If he wasn't robbed he would've had the money to pay so yes it's Rays fault.
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Thanks for checking that! Sorry we explained this in a confusing way. We were not trying to emphasize their chronological ages so much as emphasize they were in different comedic generations. We know Martin was technically around during the early 80s, but he wasn't even starting to get big until the late 80s. And he wasn't huge until the 90s. Whereas Eddie was huge at least 10 years earlier. That's what we were trying to explain. Notice how we talk about comedic generations right after we talk about their ages. That's where we were going with it. 😊
Before my best friend passed away a few years back, we'd always joke about opening up a nightclub called the Boom Boom room. None of our other friends (who are white) never saw this movie so they had no idea what we were talking about. They thought we were serious about it first, lol. This is one of those movies you can just watch over and over and never get tired of it. Camp 8
Bernie Mac low key stole the show, with a character that had only a few lines. "I da pappy" 🤪👶🏾🍫🤣
Yes he was amazing in this film!
Bernie Mac was definitely underrated in this movie! I busted a gut laughing when he said "I'm the pappy! "
He stole the show in every movie he was in.
I kno a byyatch named Della who hit harder than that....still can't believe how that line went over so many heads😂
He even stole the show in transformers as that car dealer with bumble bee kat williams is right he is the true king of comedy and will not be replaced@@therealmarlonbellamy
The boom boom room scene can be funny and sad when you think about it 😂😢 because he was manifesting something that never happened 😢
True!!!
Goldmouf said "Hey Girl" to Martin when he asked if he was going to eat his cornbread.
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CAMP 8!!!! Melvin didn’t file that appeal for Claude because he was busy trying to get with Daisy. Here are some fun facts: Eddie Murphy & Martin Lawrence were also in Boomerang, Eddie Murphy & Miguel Nunez were also in Harlem Nights, Martin & Migel Nunez were also on Martin & in Life, Martin & Goldmouth played by the late Michael Taliferro were also in Bad Boys, A Thin Line Between Love & Hate & Martin, Guy Torry & Anthony Anderson were also in Trippin, Martin & Anthony Anderson were also in Big Momma’s House, Martin & the late Bernie Mac were also in What’s The Worst That Could Happen, Miguel Nunez & Anthony Anderson also appeared on The Bernie Mac Show, Willie played by Obba Babbatunde, Miguel Nunez & Bokeem Woobine were also in Black Dynamite & Eddie Murphy & Anthony Anderson were also in You People.
Melvin and daisy both aint shit they deserve each other. Hopefully things didn't work out for them.
Melvin and daisy both aint shit. Especially melvin he was a snake.Hopefully things didn't work out for them.
“You gon eat yo cornbread” is the equivalent of “what you got on my 40 homie” lol
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“ I’m the pappy!!! “ this is probably my favorite Eddie Murphy film
@@C.Mustard same or Boomerang
@@TheQuestionsssssssss yeah that’s definitely up there
RIP Bear Taliferro. That cornbread scene truly made the film for me. I never thought about that angle with Claude's cousin, but all it told me was lawyers were definitely shiesty then even if you were related to them.
“Go the Upper Room. Let’s just say you die first. Ima bust up in tha mf&k and go the Upper Room…” takes me out every time 🤣🤣
😆😂😆
When Jeeeeeeeesus.....
Camp 8, They broke character a LOT in this movie & it was hilarious. This cast was perfect honestly.
i thought about a few years ago. This was indeed a slave movie. There were only black prisoners and hoppin Bob was like sambo. Unfortunately, there are a lot of hoppin Bobs in the black community, especially in the entertainment industry.
Camp 8.
I remember thinking that Martin and Eddie had great chemistry in this film. It also showed Martin's more dramatic side, which I was impressed with, especially when he told off Ray about how they were stuck together for 12 years.
Also, funnily enough, Martin's daughter is with Eddie's son. They are practically family now.
I genuinely thought Claude didnt care about that cornbread 😂
😂 Claude wanted that cornbread, but not that bad that he would fight for it. 😆
This is a very underrated movie
Even with the comedy, the whole premise of this movie breaks my heart into a million pieces. I can’t ever watch this movie again ever.
Understandable
I did 13 months in the pen, and to make the day go by, you have to create activity. I had a kitchen gig working lunch and dinner, and when I wasn't working, I would play basketball. I found like minded guys who were from my are, and so at nighttime, we would all shoot the shit until lights-out. Of course, thoughts of the world and freedom came frequently but I trained my mind to not think too passionate about it. Tbh, the only time that things got tough for me was whenever I made my phonecalls home and the 15 minutes would fly by and afterwards I would be in Mt feelings. But to counter that I would start card or chess games with niggas to occupy my mind. All in all, you have to keep busy cause soon as you have too much time to sit and think, the sooner you'll be in your feelings and the days seem longer. Oh and never , I mean NEVER count the days lol, I did but I shouldn't had. Easier said than done.
I can't thank you enough for sharing your experience. ❤️
@@coltonlamar8892 ok....think I'll just try even harder to stay outta jail
@@ironloins Facts , it's no place for anyone. I don't wish Prison on anyone but pedos & serial killers.
@coltonlamar8892 indeed! Glad u made it out and on ur feet bro💯
@@ironloins Thx bro
There's only a 4 year age difference from Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence.
Yes, but the thing we were really talking about about, as opposed to cheit chronological age, is when they became famous. Although Martin was around playing roles since the early 80s, he didn't really make it until House Party, and he wasn't huge until the 90s.
@AxiomAmnesia Oh, I forgot Martin Lawrence was a recurring role in "What's Happ'nin Now"
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Yeah, that's where I first saw him, but I really remembered him from House Party.
@@AxiomAmnesia He was also in Do The Right Thing.
Camp 8. "Hey get me sum Worcestersire sauce...and clean off that damn table! Fo' I whoop yo ass!" 😂😂😂 that line gets me every time😂😂😂😂
Goldmouth wasn’t asking 😂
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Eenie Meenie Miney…MELVIN Is my favorite line in this.😂😂
We almost put that one in!!! There are so many quotables that are funny! 😂
An underrated funny moment of this movie is when Bernie said “a lot of people say it though” 😭
Yes!!!!! 😂 😂
HOP N' BOB IS STEPHEN A. SMITH GREAT GRANDFATHER LOL
😆☠️💀 😂
Wow
technically all prison movies are "slave" movies as USA 13th amendment allows slavery in prison. Good video and thoughtful commentary as always.
I really appreciate that so many of our viewers are on point with this. You're absolutely correct. Most people don't "get" this, which is why we try to help them see the connection and understand the systemic dynamics at the same time.
@@AxiomAmnesia yall break it down where the goats can get it as Joe Madison would say. Always nice seeing new content 🙌🏾 It's yall having viewers who already know for me! The right people follow your page 💅🏾✨
Yes indeed!!
I was eagerly waiting for Part 2! Thanks!
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@AxiomAmnesiaI did enjoy it! Thanks again!
When he told Martin get the sauce before I whip your ass 😂😂
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Camp 8. This was a perfect listen while I prepped Father’s Day breakfast. Love y’alls channel!
Awesome! Thank you!
52:19 the rock thing was always a part of the movie that I never understood bc it implies that he can’t count. However, we do hear him count somewhat when he says ny #1 and ny #2. Also, later wen they escape, he knows that someone is missing wen it appears his count is off wen he’s doing bed chek. Also also, how does he know that he’s missing any rocks if he can’t count.
Yea he called him girl to ask for his cornbread but Ray was on point. Kinda shows the streets smarts of Ray.
Yeah Ray was as street smart!
I'm from Connecticut and when I used to spend the entire summer in South Carolina I've always had to go to the family farms and "Get that uppity up North mentality out of me" sloping hogs, feeding goats ,cows ,ducks and chickens the country was rough on me. I even got attacked by fire ants feeding the chickens. Til this day I only go into the country in the daytime and not in the fields or I'm in Colombia the 5 points metro. At least Hootie and the Blowfish is from there.😂
I basically was explaining being mixed from Connecticut people had a different look when it came to me they "Broke me in" with farm labor. Because I was a Red City Boy!!😮😮
Goodness! I can only imagine!
Camp 8!!! Aww a short video. I could listen to you guys for 3 hours. Both of you have calm voices that can put my insomniac butt to sleep. And yes, I will wake up and rewatch...lol
😂🤭😂 Well this one might be short (it's an hour), but we have a bunch of videos released this week. Be sure to check the other ones out. 😊
Definitely a demand he says "Hey Girl!" Before the famous cornbread request... 😂 Watch it again
Yeah we caught that, but I thought I'd throw the question out just to make sure ! 😂
54:14 they had to be running for awhile tho bc Mississippi state prison is in parchman, Ms and it’s said that they made it to the tallahatchie river before they got caught. Walk’n distance from the two is 15 hours and some change.
But that does cause a plot hole bc if they were that far ahead and bob them didn’t start chasing until nightfall, it does bring up how did they catch up so fast.
So, they weren’t “like” slaves or “essentially” slaves or slave “adjacent”. According to the 13th amendment, which did not abolish slavery, but merely made it conditional, they WERE slaves.
Touche... Most people don't think of it this way, but yes. They were enslaved.
all prisoners in the USA are slaves and police are slave catchers. It is 2024 and you can buy stock in private prisons. Black Americans and other groups are used for capitalism. Glad to see another 13th amendment aware individual ✊🏾🙌🏾🫶🏾
Oh, Camp 8 is where I stay, ‘cause I’m a Nasty Mutha-Fuchter!
@@AxiomAmnesia….yep & growing up, so many Blacks celebrated this because they finally got out.
Damn, wrongly accused, but had fun in jail movie.
OK..
What Kanye West say? A trap door
"Lots of people say it tho"😜 Thank you for a part 2☺
Yessss!!!! 😂😊😆
Yup
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“….Dog 🐶 got worms 🪱…”
Squad check in 💪🏽🔥
Yessss!!!
Martin & Eddie Not 10 years apart 😆...no disrespect of course....Eddie is born in 1961 and Marty Mar is 1965 4 years apart they are in the same age bracket
Sorry we explained this in a confusing way. We were not trying to emphasize their chronological ages so much as emphasize they were in different comedic generations.
We know Martin was technically around during the early 80s, but he wasn't even starting to get big until the late 80s. And he wasn't huge until the 90s. Whereas Eddie was huge at least 10 years earlier. That's what we were trying to explain. Notice how we talk about comedic generations right after we talk about their ages. That's where we were going with it. 😊
I wish this had captions but thank you
The captions are on. What device are you using or is it a TV?
@@AxiomAmnesia iPhone app. It says captions unavailable but I still watched! Camp 8 🫡
Crazy thing is that they didn’t have to lie about what they were there for. They were in there for murder.
Camp 8 also when I did my time I would think back and also would imagine life when I got out and imagine a life where I wasn't in their to help cope but also find other things in their to help pass the time like read and write.
The boom boom room ❤
He was testing Claude bout that cornbread 😂
Y'all probably going to do a breakdown and fan theories on some of these characters, but i have a fan theory on Hoppin Bob and Winston Hancock.
Hancock represents Claude if Claude fully gave in into the criminal underworld and Hoppin Bob is Ray if he gave into the system
Interesting...
I'm thinking because Ray was conniving he'd have been Hancock whereas Claude being introverted would've become a shelf serving trustee like Bob.
I love this channel so much I just became a new member. Great review of another classic film. By the way, have you seen the movie "Origin" by Ava Duvernay? It had me in tears. I don't usually make requests, but I would love to hear your thoughts and analysis on the caste system in U.S. and how it's interconnected with the Holocaust. That would be a deep, eye-opening conversation I'm sure. If you've already covered it, please let me know where to find it. Thank you.
Welcome.and thanks so much for your support of the channel. It means more than you know.
We've seen the movie Origin. 😊. I will make sure we add it to the list of things we try to release for members, if not for the entire public. ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks so much and we appreciate you joining us with your membership! We saw Origin, and we have so much to say on the caste system. We wanted to also listen to the book on which it was based so that we make sure we are getting a true representation of the author's position before we provide a review. This is one of those movies that deserves a bit of extra research. It's in the queue--a very long queue though. Maybe we can do something short just for the members that will give some thoughts on the overarching theme though. I'll see what I can do!
But if you jokingly think about it the north is more advanced than the south even during this time especially with schooling. For example travelers who moved to the south had already learned certain subjects.
That has nothing to do with the intelligence of the people in either place though.
@@AxiomAmnesiaI agree I was just pointing out most things that ppl say
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Absolutely Love Your Insights On Cinema!
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️❤️
Camp Eight!!! Nice discussion, as always.
Thank you!!! 😊
I kove the commentary yall gotta do rush hour 1 & beverly hills cop & 48 hours
Thanks so much! And thanks for the suggestions!
48:22 they got life not a life sentence. Two different things. I know it’s a matter of semantics but still, and no I don’t believe the cousin filed the appeal. He prolly been plotting on her and took advantage of the situation. Prolly even used that as a talk’n point to woo her over.
Classic Movie i hope this Movie never gets Touch. 😇😇😇💙💛💛💛💙RIP Mac
The white guy you are referring to is Sgt. Dillard, The Boss of Camp 8.
Thanks for kicking in his name! 😊
Just a wild guess but maybe Willie long meant by his comment saying they were special because they were innocent but idk
Yeah I'm still thinking about that!
Peace fam⚡️ yall been doing yall thing☀️
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7:31 I still don't understand why the guard hit Ray when Claude was being the wiseass slacker.
Because he understood who the real rebel was.
WHEN I WAS IN I JUST CREATED A ROUTINE TO GET THRU THE TIME
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Camp 8!
Camp 8 and wow as usual you guys make me think 🤔 of something I never thought of which is Life is a "slave movie" definitely get it from all the points y'all made
Excellent movie review
Thank you 😊😊😊
If the inmates were smart enough, they would have tried to escape too when the guards were looking for Claude and Ray.
I don't think fearing consequences has anything to do with being smart. They were conditioned not to run, and I'm sure someone was left behind with a gun. Conditioning, fear for their lives and the repercussions are why they didn't run... The same reasons why most enslaved people didn't try to run North to freedom.
Bob isnt smart enough to count. I dont think he'll be smart enough to realise something is off if there are more people than rocks lol
😆
The passage of time in the Melvin situation isn’t really made known. I like to think Melvin tried, and as he tried he fell in love with her. Since the appeal was denied they gave into their feelings.
By far the best movie and one of my all time favorite movies ever period
This was not a comedy.
This was a Black Horror movie
It's not a horror. It's a romance story between Claude and Ray. 🙄
She gave him some cutty to work on the appeal and he was like, hmmm nevermind
Camp 8 🎉
Claude didn't borrow money. He couldn't pay for his dinner that's how he got in this. If he wasn't robbed he would've had the money to pay so yes it's Rays fault.
You might want to rewatch the beginning of the movie...
The uppppppaaaaaa roooommmmmmmmmm
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Thank you for this title, I could never just enjoy this movie due to the “reality” of it all. It’s just not funny. 😢
I understand
They are 4 years apart
Thanks for checking that! Sorry we explained this in a confusing way. We were not trying to emphasize their chronological ages so much as emphasize they were in different comedic generations.
We know Martin was technically around during the early 80s, but he wasn't even starting to get big until the late 80s. And he wasn't huge until the 90s. Whereas Eddie was huge at least 10 years earlier. That's what we were trying to explain. Notice how we talk about comedic generations right after we talk about their ages. That's where we were going with it. 😊
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Before my best friend passed away a few years back, we'd always joke about opening up a nightclub called the Boom Boom room. None of our other friends (who are white) never saw this movie so they had no idea what we were talking about. They thought we were serious about it first, lol. This is one of those movies you can just watch over and over and never get tired of it. Camp 8
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