What do you do if you're in low elo, a.k.a your ADC or your jungler are sidelaning? What is the correct answer if someone that shouldn't split splits? Should you hover your ADC so that he don't die, or take the jungle camps of your jungler, or group mid to prevent the enemy team from taking mid tower?
You have two options here. The first one is to solve the problem you're faced with. The other is to solve the problem that created the problem. Solving the problem you're faced with is tricky because it's situational: you want to go wherever you can create an advantage for your team, which may be as simple as going back to mid and farming. Your second option is to solve the problem that created the problem. It's much simpler but it's also more difficult: instead of reacting to what's happening on the map, you need to predict it and move there first. As a low elo ADC, I can tell you the number one reason you'll see me in a side lane is that nobody else is there. I don't want to side lane but if there's a side wave pushing and the rest of the lobby is ARAMing over nothing, I'm taking the side wave. The choice between bad and worse is no choice at all. But if you see it before I do and move to collect, I'm going somewhere else. I'm already behind exp (usually) from the laning phase so I'm not going to share if I can avoid it. I'm definitely not going to share gold. I need it too badly. Ultimately, if I'm in a side lane, the time for you to be there is already gone. It comes down to having the map awareness to see when I might be able to go mid, and making sure that's where my incentive is. Your question was about how to react to suboptimal side lanes, but the real answer isn't to react; it's to predict.
I’m not high elo but as an assassin mid I’ve had success by shadowing my splitting adc and clearing enemy jungle camps nearby. Someone will move to go stop that adc / pick up a “free kill” and then I just cut them off. If it’s multiple people then my adc turns and helps me and we auto win because its 2-3 dead.
Skill Capped: "Barons and Dragons win you the game" Also Skill Capped: "DRAGONS ARE INT AND BARON CAN LOSE YOU THE GAME" I'm getting mixed messages here.
Oh don't bother with skill capped guides, the tier lists are good but the guides are just not it, they recycle the same things they say every guide and sometimes the mfs say opposing things
My interpretation is along the lines of Adc and jungler shouldn't worry as much about dragon as they feel pressured to do But midlane's win condition is being in the center of the map, able to influence a lot. You can ward a jg camp, or roam to either lane and snowball from there Jg dying on drag is bad, rather than just giving and farming or crossmapping somrthing adc can miss important farm by showing up to a drake that's "already secured" or just pushing a wave under tower. A teamfight on drag is especially bad if you're behind or your midlaner doesn't have priority to roam
I think is dragon is int whatever the circumstances, the only soul worth taking risks for is hextech. Juste leave the dragons to the ennemies to create yourself more gold and fight for elder if the problem ever arises.
better answer: junglers dont need to focus dragons and adcs need farm, however, objectives draw in both teams for a fight which can mean a huge gold swing for your team if they int, and midlaners are pretty much the teams lapdog. they should do whatever the team wants rather than dick off on their own
Diana mid is great for low elo, because of split push. I do it all day until somebody comes, I'm not so confident so if fed vayne comes I rotate mid and have more people and power to fight and push mid tower or baron. Nothing works good in low elo but at least I'm getting 2 w for 1 loss.
The prob with these videos is that they only work in theory. Even when i have vision in river and ping my enemy mid missing the moment he goes away my botlane just ignores my pings and dies anyway
its so weird that the information is so easily accessible, yet so many midlaners end up flaming the botlane if they go to the midlane in the midgame after they took their lane tower down xD
As you can see in the video, there's a clip where the lux ulted to shove the wave, so yeah, you can do that. Most of the time you'll see a lux ulting the wave to make sure she can recall, as her ultimate cd is pretty low. Also if you just want to get some info or ward the river or the jungle, it can help a lot since you burst the wave instantly and can grant some extra seconds to venture without the enemy mid laner following you.
U talk about splitting and getting tower of nothing important is happening and all I hear is „an ally has been slayen“ just because our adc wanted to take the enemy redbuff without vision and my whole team just spam pinging me and giving me the rope/bait ping to Kys
It happens but if you all go down, its just multiplying a bad play. If your teammate is crap but you take turret, its better than when youre all crap. If you always take the good play, mathematically, the enemy team will make more bad plays and you will win more
I'm legitimately proud to be able to somewhat consistently freeze in mid as Cassiopeia as a Silver player! I'm not good at it on other champions but it's a great start! :D
If your winning in your lane don't just gank more often, you should destroy the 1st midlane tower . So that the map of your team will be expanded especially for the jungler and also your adc can farm a lot between lanes. It's so devastating to the enemy's farming patterns cause midlane tower holds a lot of farm camps and visions.
Hey man I aspire to be a professional coach one day and I love your videos. They are on point. one thing I would have loved in the video though is manipulating the vision while you do these push bot/top past danger zone . I think vision is detrimental , and how vision is applied is important to team comps also. Anyways I stop rambling ! nice video man !!!
Oh I feel you, it’s so annoying… like you see on the map that I’m pushing out the side lane waves to then group again in mid… why the hell do you force a fight… Imo it’s just inting from them… best way is to disable chat 👌
can you do one on how to macro as a late game champ against early game champs. for example, You did like akalia and zed, jayce.. but what about veigar people like that who are more late game. how do they play mid vs people like zed jacye kata early game when they force you under tower and cant roam then spam pinged cause they cant follow ganks?
vs Kata I keep zoning her from exp & cs so she roams. When allies don't int im quickly level 6 vs lev 4 with double cs+ into snowball win with enemies typing mid open. When my botlane doesn't play safe its my botlane typing XD
You forgot to mention, what if your bot lane is 0/15, then the support decides to come mid and adc stays bot to farm. Your fed, do you stay mid with support and split xp slowing your snowball or fight with adc for cs in bot when adc is way behind. This happens in at least 30% of my games. Keep in mind that this with me roaming and help out bot. I normally have a kp of 75%ish.
well, macro is how you move around the map. The guide specifically tells you about it. When to go side lane, when to leave mid lane, how deep to go into side lane etc. That's mid lane specific macro. Besides that, there's also general macro, like, very generally, go baron when your or the enemy team groups around it
i still dont see a guide what to do when enemy laner is smurf and your team is 0-10 in all roles before 10mins withe super bad matchamaking non stop. Like games are decided on op gg before we even play
You know bad games happen, right ? Even for challenger players, we've seen faker go 0/10 vs a random master tier otp talon lol but i guess you're just too good so it doesn't happen to you :D lucky youuu
@CardGamesMarco low gold actually, but despite my first answer do you really think anyone believes you're any kind of high elo ? And even if you are, whining about one famous dude "ruining" your game makes you look like a right dumbass :) I'm sure if I'd check your profile it'd make me cry from laughter now get your ass back in line to get pegged
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The only reliable way to climb is with duo or with booster. I couldn't climb out of silver with +40lp per game. I bought boost and stayed in plat. Just boost yourselves, learn basics and play with high elo. Enjoy
@@GozuTob u can stay stuck in an elo after a boost just by being a pussy everygame and coinflipping teams u'll average 45-50%wr So yeah, you are still handless I climbed plat soloQ with all roles it's piss ez and not with +40lp gains ur legit no hands
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I have no idea what i just listened to but i will go play yasuo anyways
😂
Sounds like your bronze queue is not going anywhere
Just make sure to always show your M7 when you die, and you'll be fine
Same here
Yasuo cant climb into platina or dia sólo q ?
The half way part of this tutorial is honestly useful not just to mid laners but to all laners to 1v9 a game! Thank you
ur bronze and ur not applying 99% of this guide
@@lovelife-bdb ur toxid for no reason and you leave after you die because "your jungler didnt help you" type shit
@@boneless70 im Grandmaster xd
@@lovelife-bdb your 100% better than me, but why be toxic for no reason? Were not even in a league match rn
@@boneless70 im just saying the truth bro
What do you do if you're in low elo, a.k.a your ADC or your jungler are sidelaning? What is the correct answer if someone that shouldn't split splits? Should you hover your ADC so that he don't die, or take the jungle camps of your jungler, or group mid to prevent the enemy team from taking mid tower?
You have two options here. The first one is to solve the problem you're faced with. The other is to solve the problem that created the problem. Solving the problem you're faced with is tricky because it's situational: you want to go wherever you can create an advantage for your team, which may be as simple as going back to mid and farming.
Your second option is to solve the problem that created the problem. It's much simpler but it's also more difficult: instead of reacting to what's happening on the map, you need to predict it and move there first. As a low elo ADC, I can tell you the number one reason you'll see me in a side lane is that nobody else is there. I don't want to side lane but if there's a side wave pushing and the rest of the lobby is ARAMing over nothing, I'm taking the side wave. The choice between bad and worse is no choice at all. But if you see it before I do and move to collect, I'm going somewhere else. I'm already behind exp (usually) from the laning phase so I'm not going to share if I can avoid it. I'm definitely not going to share gold. I need it too badly.
Ultimately, if I'm in a side lane, the time for you to be there is already gone. It comes down to having the map awareness to see when I might be able to go mid, and making sure that's where my incentive is. Your question was about how to react to suboptimal side lanes, but the real answer isn't to react; it's to predict.
I’m not high elo but as an assassin mid I’ve had success by shadowing my splitting adc and clearing enemy jungle camps nearby. Someone will move to go stop that adc / pick up a “free kill” and then I just cut them off. If it’s multiple people then my adc turns and helps me and we auto win because its 2-3 dead.
4:35 "Roaming to a side lane with no knockups" Janna might disagree with you here
was an example, you wont have Janna on your team every game as yasuo
@@xlightninghawk6360 he meant that on the picture was a janna
"Wait for your team to pressure"
The team: Man these jg camps look way nicer than minion waves
More for me😂😂😂
Skill Capped: "Barons and Dragons win you the game"
Also Skill Capped: "DRAGONS ARE INT AND BARON CAN LOSE YOU THE GAME"
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Oh don't bother with skill capped guides, the tier lists are good
but the guides are just not it, they recycle the same things they say every guide and sometimes the mfs say opposing things
There is a difference beatween, don't do it and don't be ready for it. Alo they have been buffed.
My interpretation is along the lines of
Adc and jungler shouldn't worry as much about dragon as they feel pressured to do
But midlane's win condition is being in the center of the map, able to influence a lot. You can ward a jg camp, or roam to either lane and snowball from there
Jg dying on drag is bad, rather than just giving and farming or crossmapping somrthing
adc can miss important farm by showing up to a drake that's "already secured" or just pushing a wave under tower. A teamfight on drag is especially bad if you're behind or your midlaner doesn't have priority to roam
I think is dragon is int whatever the circumstances, the only soul worth taking risks for is hextech. Juste leave the dragons to the ennemies to create yourself more gold and fight for elder if the problem ever arises.
better answer: junglers dont need to focus dragons and adcs need farm, however, objectives draw in both teams for a fight which can mean a huge gold swing for your team if they int, and midlaners are pretty much the teams lapdog. they should do whatever the team wants rather than dick off on their own
Diana mid is great for low elo, because of split push. I do it all day until somebody comes, I'm not so confident so if fed vayne comes I rotate mid and have more people and power to fight and push mid tower or baron. Nothing works good in low elo but at least I'm getting 2 w for 1 loss.
I started this game basically mid lane, Vex main, now I’m a Riven top. Though it’s interesting to hear the macro in mid now.
The prob with these videos is that they only work in theory. Even when i have vision in river and ping my enemy mid missing the moment he goes away my botlane just ignores my pings and dies anyway
Yeah Bronze attitude it’s normal. Only at gold lvl they will care
@@muratemreyurdalan2734 nah id rather puch to get free farm and plate gold for assured profit and leads
@@Goffinho02 dont know what gold you are talking about im in gold 3 atm and nobody cares ^^
@@Goffinho02ven in high plat these dudes are ignoring shit. Most elos are plagued with these dudes
@@Goffinho02 Nah, they ignore pings all the way into high platinum.
Source? I am a Mid/Jg main. In platinum bouncing from high to low plat.
Bad thing when i go push a wave my entire team took a fight mid 4v5 for no reason and died
And thats why you take tp
its so weird that the information is so easily accessible, yet so many midlaners end up flaming the botlane if they go to the midlane in the midgame after they took their lane tower down xD
I flame mine for refusing to leave bot lane ever. My ADCs are usually the split push until someone kills you variety
Think about it, if you are not playing this game then you are already winning.
3:08 implying a Qiyana would help an Urgot kill Darius and Darius wouldnt just get a double kill
@fear there's no such thing as "coordinate your abilities" in solo queue
@fear my man
Question from a brand new player: can I/should I use Lux ult to lane clear?
As you can see in the video, there's a clip where the lux ulted to shove the wave, so yeah, you can do that. Most of the time you'll see a lux ulting the wave to make sure she can recall, as her ultimate cd is pretty low. Also if you just want to get some info or ward the river or the jungle, it can help a lot since you burst the wave instantly and can grant some extra seconds to venture without the enemy mid laner following you.
Just such a great video as a master's mid main. So many key concepts covered clearly.
My only problem is every 2/7 adc teammate decides that both botlane and midlane minions are theirs and also the jungle camps too!
+1
Thank you for this guide 🙏. I demoted to plat
This video is superb
"If you just pressure a side lane the enemy team is leaking gold and cs"
Also my team dying in the most random 4v5 in mid with no objectives up
As a Vladimir, it's super hard to push waves, cuz your AOE spell is the one you max out in second. So you find yourself useful at pushing at level 12.
Thanks this helped a lot ❤
U talk about splitting and getting tower of nothing important is happening and all I hear is „an ally has been slayen“ just because our adc wanted to take the enemy redbuff without vision and my whole team just spam pinging me and giving me the rope/bait ping to Kys
It happens but if you all go down, its just multiplying a bad play. If your teammate is crap but you take turret, its better than when youre all crap. If you always take the good play, mathematically, the enemy team will make more bad plays and you will win more
U are doing things right and they are just mad because they know nothing about the game. Just mute them and keep improving
Ok guys i'm getting ready to be the worst Valorant player ever for ever.
I'm legitimately proud to be able to somewhat consistently freeze in mid as Cassiopeia as a Silver player! I'm not good at it on other champions but it's a great start! :D
tf?? did you watch the video? push lane and roam
@@reviewcomplete3701 It depends on the matchup though? Freeze until they roam then push and go for a crossmap play or platings
can you do that for adc too?
If your winning in your lane don't just gank more often, you should destroy the 1st midlane tower . So that the map of your team will be expanded especially for the jungler and also your adc can farm a lot between lanes. It's so devastating to the enemy's farming patterns cause midlane tower holds a lot of farm camps and visions.
Hey man I aspire to be a professional coach one day and I love your videos. They are on point. one thing I would have loved in the video though is manipulating the vision while you do these push bot/top past danger zone . I think vision is detrimental , and how vision is applied is important to team comps also. Anyways I stop rambling ! nice video man !!!
Ah nice, a helpful macro guide to help me not lose lane and keep up with the enemy team even when counterpicked
My 2/11 fizz jungle:
"Just like Viktor knowing he can take this 1v1 fight"
Kat - Missing everything and still nearly kills
what kat misses? skillshots? viktor just outplayed her
See what happens is i push sidelane waves and take towers, but my team just takes the 4v5, they all die, and then shout at me for not being there
Oh I feel you, it’s so annoying… like you see on the map that I’m pushing out the side lane waves to then group again in mid… why the hell do you force a fight…
Imo it’s just inting from them… best way is to disable chat 👌
Jungle macro guides being 25 minutes long looking at this:
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can you do one on how to macro as a late game champ against early game champs. for example, You did like akalia and zed, jayce.. but what about veigar people like that who are more late game. how do they play mid vs people like zed jacye kata early game when they force you under tower and cant roam then spam pinged cause they cant follow ganks?
Wait so should bot head to mid lane after the first tower is taken?
6:29 what does superliga and LLA have to do with guides? xd
What to do when Riot nerfed mid roam by minions speed up? Which is nasty change.
This is GODLIKE marketing. W. I'm never being toxic again because of this. Gliadre on the rift. Watch this.
FINALLY
vs Kata I keep zoning her from exp & cs so she roams. When allies don't int im quickly level 6 vs lev 4 with double cs+ into snowball win with enemies typing mid open. When my botlane doesn't play safe its my botlane typing XD
awesome
I only play naafiri and Fizz mid
What are some good burst melee mids. I really like talon, so need more like him.
zed
You might like quiana fizz
The Professor Akali logo there is very questionable 🤣
That is true xd he has nothing of a professor, just funny vids imo
low elos be playing team deathmatch
You forgot to mention, what if your bot lane is 0/15, then the support decides to come mid and adc stays bot to farm. Your fed, do you stay mid with support and split xp slowing your snowball or fight with adc for cs in bot when adc is way behind. This happens in at least 30% of my games. Keep in mind that this with me roaming and help out bot. I normally have a kp of 75%ish.
u stay mid bc u can guarantee the cs gold
okay but what is the macro? and how do you create a league macro..
well, macro is how you move around the map. The guide specifically tells you about it. When to go side lane, when to leave mid lane, how deep to go into side lane etc. That's mid lane specific macro. Besides that, there's also general macro, like, very generally, go baron when your or the enemy team groups around it
Why is Ezreal teaching me how to play 💀
Yall not realizing how much the guy sounds like ezreal
Damn I was so close. Second? 😂
Damn xd 37 th like
This season is just saccing waves to rotate and go bot
the chat at 9:45 xd
I was looking for this comment 🤣🤣
I'm here because I'm always autofilled in mid dafuq
Do yummy macro sappurt pleas! I want to get bitter 😂❤🎉❤😂
as a top main im gently asking you to do a video about junglers macroing their way to a noose
i still dont see a guide what to do when enemy laner is smurf and your team is 0-10 in all roles before 10mins withe super bad matchamaking non stop. Like games are decided on op gg before we even play
Easy. It’s FF@15
@@josephlombardo1972 your 0-10 top and 3 lvls down jg disagrees
Shows professor Akali as an example of coach: Professor Akali goes 5-9 in my ranked games lmfaooo
You know bad games happen, right ? Even for challenger players, we've seen faker go 0/10 vs a random master tier otp talon lol but i guess you're just too good so it doesn't happen to you :D lucky youuu
@@ElMarlish you’re silver typing to me what
@CardGamesMarco low gold actually, but despite my first answer do you really think anyone believes you're any kind of high elo ? And even if you are, whining about one famous dude "ruining" your game makes you look like a right dumbass :) I'm sure if I'd check your profile it'd make me cry from laughter now get your ass back in line to get pegged
@@maolebron1615 oh ok faker
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finally lesgo
Jesus Loves all of you guys
You sound like ezreal lol
The only reliable way to climb is with duo or with booster. I couldn't climb out of silver with +40lp per game. I bought boost and stayed in plat. Just boost yourselves, learn basics and play with high elo. Enjoy
If you need a boost to get to plat you are handless
@@YannisC3D but then i stay plat. Am I handless?
@@GozuTob u can stay stuck in an elo after a boost just by being a pussy everygame and coinflipping teams u'll average 45-50%wr
So yeah, you are still handless
I climbed plat soloQ with all roles it's piss ez and not with +40lp gains ur legit no hands
Not true. I've only peaked 1 game away from plat promos and getting out of bronze and silver is really easy. And I'm a autopiloting ass mf.
Yes because you can keep up, how ever you never won against worse enemies so yeah go figure
What
A whole lot of time wasted explaining the same thing in different ways
Not a good guide
pls dont use Professor Akali has reference for coaching. this dude should be cancelt with all the shit he is/was doing!!!