We have a family ranch in Southeast Washington, where they re-introduced wolves several years ago. Most of our neighbors have lost their farm dogs to the wolves not to mention many cattle and livestock. We used to frequently see herds of 200 to 300 elk crossing our field in front of our home, and for the last several years the deer and elk are almost nonexistent. The wolves have completely wiped out the population of deer and elk. We used to feel fairly comfortable, hiking around in the woods before the wolves. We never go out without a gun since they re-introduced wolves. Last year someone shot a collared wolf and you would’ve thought somebody shot the governor with all the government vehicles that showed up to investigate.
As a city boy who loves this rural content, I’m extremely confused as to why people think releasing more predators into the wild is a good idea. I’m truly baffled by this. Thanks Trinity for the solid content.
It isn't wild. They're releasing into populated & agricultural areas. The wild areas in Colorado are too small to support a wolf population. That's why they needed to do the study, which they didn't do. If it was truly wild then nobody would care if there was wolves. If people do care, that tells you it isn't wild.
Well it's complicated but here's the general idea. Back in the 60s and 70s the conservation/environmentalism craze hit. Overall a good idea. We want to be good stewards of our planet. Now imagine your standard bell curve. One the left side are your crazy radicals who want extreme environmentalist restrictions, and radical changes. On the right side you have the crazies who want absolutely nothing done and basically just rape the planet. In the middle are your average everyday people and by far the vast majority. What took place, was the crazies on the left found an ear in the left political spectrum. So, the typical trade votes for policy situation. Sadly as time progressed the number of people buying into the crazy side of things grew so that the bell curve shifted left. Keep in mind many of these people are good people with good intentions but have been misled. Now lets cover the level of knowledge on this topic. Most people have no idea what animal management is about, whether it be a farm or a wildlife population. Next we add bad information into the mix. On top of the lack of education, consider the movie "Never cry wolf". In this movie, which was supposedly based on a true story, we have a scientist that lives amongst the wolves of Alaska and learns that they don't really eat many large game animals etc but instead they eat mostly mice and oh by the way they are friendly. The "scientist" that wrote the book was later discovered to have never lived with the wolves or done the research claimed in the book and hence the movie is based on virtual bs. Add to that "Apex Predator Theory" and lets keep in mind it is a theory and a bad one. Many people have subscribed to it and sadly it is wrong. Better research has shown its not like a food pyramid system but more like a spider web where each change in the system is connected to the other parts of the system in a web vs the top down flow downward (roughly put) idea of apex predator theory. Lastly on the misinformation front are scientists who have become politicized and are pushing for changes like wolf introductions not based on actual science but based on what they think needs to be done. Ok, with that thinking in mind, consider what happened. These activist scientists decided that the wolves were going extinct, even with the 50k+ wolves in Canada and Alaska, but I digress. So, they created a plan for introducing wolves to Yellowstone to ahem, restore balance to the ecosystem and save the wolves. They sought input from people on the plan. Where? One meeting in Billings, which was near the park and the rest were all around the country. If I recall one was even in Orlando FL. What basically happened was all the "city slickers" gave input that was naturally "Yea go for it". On the other hand, all the people that have to live with the effects of the wolves were saying "Whoa. Hold on there. This is going to have bad consequences." The pro wolf people make their claims of all the benefits, which, while you can see some, they adamantly fight against the idea of damages being done. Somehow in their minds, the negatives don't matter (or when seeing what some say, they don't even exist, which is the biggest lie or at a minimum, a the biggest head in the sand approach one has ever witnessed). Pro wolf people also say stupid things like "Just get LGD, use flashy fences or whatever" like these things don't cost anything and work perfectly. Reality on the other hand is there is a large negative impact from introducing the wolves and we need to stop pretending there isn't. There can be wolves if managed correctly but that means the pro wolf side has to come to grips with reality and let them be hunted, pay ranchers for real (its a huge discussion about the bs behind ranchers getting paid for lost animals, they in effect don't for the most part). This is the top level summary but gives you a good idea what brought us to this point.
@@organicfarmer23 That is why I advocate for bringing wolves back to the entire original wolf range. That means NYC central park, wolves. Downtown LA. Wolves. The entire US was wolf range, make it that way again. Once you do, reason should prevail and there will be an abrupt and radical change in ideas of wolf management. Once it is no longer someone else's problem and people have to deal with it themselves and understand what the real issues are, things will change.
There is an agenda ...... Well, certain cities make it easier for human predators.. So the same people do this in states and specifically around areas that cause chaos to a natural ecosystem , individual ranchers, There is always an agenda.. What do you think it is.
I am from Michigan Upper Peninsula with a population of 300,000. They introduced wolves back in the 80’s with 2 packs about 12-15 wolves, now DNR says there 700 wolves but that’s the number been the same for last 20 years . Independent studies says there 2,000+ . They have devastated our deer to almost nothing. Try to get a wolf hunt on the ballot a few years back but got defeated because lower Michigan doesn’t have wolves and a population of 20 million people. I know farmers who have lost hundreds of cattle to wolf killings. I feel sorry for Colorado because they will devastate the wildlife and won’t be able to let their cattle free range…
I see the same thing happening in Arizona’. We have the Mexican Gray Wolves here and the big city’s are making the decisions for rural Arizona. Ranchers go out of business and corporate farms and ranchers will take over the production and they don’t care about the health of the animals or crops, just the profits.
Thank you Trinity for bringing this to light I watched your previous video with Rod and I absolutely totally believe in what you and the Rangers are saying I'm with them thank you for bringing these videos they are very well needed just need to get the people in the Front Range to not be so democratized and figure out it's okay to eat animals harvest forest like they should be
Thanks for what you are trying to accomplish. People need to understand what is actually important. If we keep going on the direction we are heading then we as a nation can look forward to famine because some think that the wolf is cute.
Thank you Trinity for sharing this information with your community. Here in Michigan, we have a similar situation in our Upper Peninsula. The good folks in Lansing and Detroit decided that wolves should be protected and therefore people who will likely never see a wolf are making decisions which impact only the people and wildlife from hundreds of miles away. Bless’ns to you sir, Tedd
Thank you for shedding light on this i also live in a very very small town in Idaho. I worked for fish and game and seen first hand what wolves can do. We came across about 6 elk killed by wolves most were young, the snow was deep that year so they couldn't make a quick escape. It was sad to see this. These city ppl do not understand anything about wolves. But we and the wildlife have to deal with the consequences of their ignorance. I hear the argument all the time that they only kill what they need, the young, the sick, thats simply not true. But these ppl dont work with them or probably never seen a wolf with their own two eyes. Wolves are not humans they do not think on the same terms as humans do. Idk where this thought process comes from, but your right Trinity its social media, these documentaries and trying to humanize an animal. Thanks again for the insight Trinity.
Who's trying to humanize them. You've left me shaking my head on your comment. What you've said is only half truths. This is the results of social media.
@@Redstoneprime316 Apparently not! They introduced the wrong wolf. These wolves are from higher up country; used to bigger, faster and more challenging game. This is a fiasco out of the gate!
I want to tell you I was critical of one of your videos not too long ago, but I do appreciate all your content. This video was very spot on and the ones that you’re doing down in Colorado. Myself as third generation , Houndsman and my son has a fourth here in Montana appreciate videos like this. I look at this as a pattern to the Y2Y initiative, it is a naturalization pattern of removing humans and using predators as the management tool for our ungulates. What’s a better way to end hunting and when you end hunting you end the use of firearms. So again love your content, keep up the good work. I would encourage you to come to some of the commission meetings here in Montana that have anything to do with the wolves, and or the next legislative session where there will obviously be some content on predators as far as bills. I would like to see you do a video on Montana losing one whole month of Wolf trapping due to the environmentalist or anti-Trapping legislation brought on by some of the groups in Missoula, Montana and the anti-Trapping group, bringing Judge Donald Malloy out of retirement to do their bidding in which judge Malloy ruled to take away a big portion of our trapping season for wolves using the grizzly Bears is a crotch, which was about ending Trapping, and had nothing to do with the grizzly bears, here in Montana for wolves. Thank you sincerely, Terry L. Zink Zink’s Big sky Archery Targets Zink’s Big Game Hounds
Minnesota Rancher. Thanks Trinity for your work and videos. Spot on! And thanks Terry for your contribution as well. Here in northern Minnesota we can attest to the truth in what you say.
Hey Trinity, I really like these wolf videos. I would love it if you interviewed some ranchers/farmers that have heavy wolf pressure and what they do to try to deal with the problems. What type of solutions they come up with, effectiveness of guard dogs etc.... I have a feeling a lot of people could benefit from such info. I might need it myself eventually. I have been seeing more and more lone wolves here in Wisconsin lately and I have a small starter herd of cattle. A couple wolf kills would be devastating for me. Thanks.
@@richcox3982 your welcome , Irish wolf hound , boyzoe - Russian wolf hound . Gray hounds . Saw a video of some farmers who had a pack of gray hounds , boy did they take down the coyotes . There are others too .good luck .
I was in Colorado back in November near Larkspur. Every morning I took my GSP for a run in an open space. One fine morning the biggest coyotes I have ever seen popped up over a birm and were advancing aggressively towards my dog. In Texas, coyotes usually turn tail and run away from dogs and people. But these guys were different. When they got to 50 yards of me and my dog, I busted a cap. (I have a chl) The warning shot worked. They ran off. Regardless I have neve seen aggressive coyotes in Texas in my 70 years and I hunt. On my way out I encountered a gentleman who was getting ready to release his dogs. I warned him. He told me the problem is peope in they are used to people and have no fear. He also told me I was lucky no one heard the shot and reported me. Well. Maybe I was lucky. And the hassle of dealing with law enforcement enforcement wouldn't have been fun. But if myself or my animals are in danger I'll take my chances.
I don't understand people who think they care about the environment so much yet have no bearing on how it works. There's nobody who care for the environment more than a farmer or rancher, and there's nobody who can actually fix problems better than a farmer or rancher and yet people think that farmers and ranchers are the problem. What you are doing is probably the best way to educate people on this subject. Keep it up.
@@autumnthomas3923 I kinda agree, they're bringing in different wolves to Colorado than there was 200 years ago, these ones are bigger hence require more food. Also it's a human caused problem that's causing more human problems. Some people don't like elk hunting so they ban it on their property and elk have learned to congregate there during the elk hunting season which is allowing there population to grow huge and elk actually cause a major problem for ranchers and farmers by eating their food, and sadly when elk congregate at those massive feedlots and when wolves come in they get too excited because the elk have grown so soft so they are basically fat standstill targets for the wolves which can cause the wolves to go on a killing frenzy and they deplete the elk for a while. Then once elk and deer are depleted they go after big game, but where Colorado doesn't have that much big game they attack cattle which leads to the wolf's death.
Hahahaha Farmers/Ranchers care’s about the environment, I needed a good laugh, thanks for that Since when? They try to get rid of everything that’s in there way, so simple is that
Conservationists care about the ecosystem. Here's a fact: if ranchers and farmers cared about the ecosystem, they wouldn't be wanting the wolves killed off.
So you know more than God is that what you’re saying? Explains why you’re a farmer and not a real rancher and I seriously doubt that you’re native. If you are, it’s sad that your relatives did not teach you how to live with nature instead of just profit from it while destroying it as a farmer, I would think you would understand the importance of nature and being able to reuse things.
@@Ru4mx2 yet again another person that knows everything about agriculture while not being actively involved in it. Always easy to judge how those of us in agriculture do things with a full belly.
@@organicfarmer23 As a person made it to Colorado, who understands ranching I understand how to live with nature not destroy it. The fact that you use organic in your handle tells me everything I need to know about you another douche bag probably from San Diego who has no concept of how to live with nature you move here Because you think it’s amazing and the first thing you wanna 0:26 do is destroy it. Like I said name, one time, when humans like you get involved with nature that it is ever worked out well for the world, the country or state, or nature itself all you do is destroy you don’t learn to live with things just off of it how sad
Thanks Trinity , as I said on your other vid to do with Colorado wolves ; We went through this same nightmare in Ontario Can. In the late 60s early 70s Please keep keep up the good work !
It's not "research". A bunch of stories and opinions, even those based on extensive experience, still isn't research. In fact, that's one of the things he's complaining about. No research was done before the wolves were released. Just a bunch of arguing, followed by a vote which was decided by less than 1%. The narrowness of the decision is an indicator that many people weren't really convinced. Probably because there was no research to rely on.
Wait till one of the voters loses a pet or God forbid child to a wolf. Who will they blame then? Controlled burns and letting fires burn is also so important for the land.
The city people have the nerve to call you ranchers 'lazy' for not fencing wolves out. Which is of course a ridiculous idea no one could afford. Even if they could 'afford' it, the cost of meat would not longer justify raising livestock. Which is of course the point. They don't care if you can afford it either, it means you're too 'poor' to ranch. This is who the city people are.
Their moving there way further north here in New Mexico, got hay from a guy this week from a guy who ranches south of Belen NM, was showing us pictures of some of his cows, that were literally eaten alive by wolves!! Got my 30-06 locked n loaded to protect our herd! 🤷♂️
Thanks Trinity for continuing to bring light to these issues. I’m not a rancher but have huge respect for people who are. As a sportsman, I am highly concerned about our ability to go hunting in the future. It seems these wildlife extremists want nothing more than to end ranching and hunting. Unfortunately they are winning. I have been promoting and donating to Coloradans For Responsible Wildlife Management as they are at the forefront of the fight. I’m curious what organizations from the ranching community are leading the fight. I think it’s time we work together to put these ideas to bed before they ruin our way of life
You might think that with the internet, people would be more educated than ever. However, it seems they often come across false information instead. While I hunt and have friends who are farmers, I live in a small city in flyover country. That said, if I knew nothing about the topic and only knew that people living in rural areas did not want wolves, I would be inclined to vote no just on that basis alone. Thanks for the great content as always 👍
@@richcox3982 I read your message on here and you have no idea what you’re talking about. You completely misinterpreted what this man’s intentions were first of all. Damn fool
I think one of the many problems is misinformation on both ends of the spectrum. Some people believe that wolves are heartless monsters that kill every living thing in their territory while others believe that they can do no harm and that they magically fix all the problems caused by humans instantly.
I live in north Idaho - north of Coeur d’Alene, out in the sticks with my three horses, dog and cat. I hear wolves howling at night near my place and neighbors in the area have spotted them often . They definitely have impacted the area with loss of livestock,no question
Impacted ranchers yes, but not the area. Hang on to the blessing you have. Most people won't have the opportunity to hear that sound unless it's a recording.
This is why you don't need s permit to hunt them in Alaska. The moose calves are being decimated by wolves . Wolves are large , dangerous predators that are opportunistic killers in the top of the food chain .
Yeah, going to disagree. Only man hunts for sport, wolves no, and they don't overkill or over eat. It's why Islands with wolves and elk or deer find a balance that sustains both. We are the X factor that throws the balance off. Somehow native americans had that figured out as well.
The cities within your state should not be allowed to rule or vote on the things that go on in rural America the politicians should be separate in your state!! The reason it should be separate from Cities to rural America is because people in the city have no idea what goes on in rural America. We don’t tell them what to do so they Shouldn’t tell Rural America what to do should not tell roar, Merica what they can do.
We are in Southern California. There are wolves in the local Sequoia forest. The hunters and public is increasing witnessing wolves. The public here generally is unarmed. It is only a matter of time before a Human is eaten by a pack.
Here in Upper Michigan (especially in the northern half-heavy snow area usually) the impact has really come to light. deer harvest this year was half of what the wolves take. Officially 650 wolves but “could be” as high as 1400. Having this population is ridiculous-control is needed now. In this State the southern populations control everything about our lives here in rural areas. That’s wrong. I personally believe we need to separate from these “ignorant of the real rural world” folks since we apparently can’t put wolves in the cities and surrounding suburbs.
On top of the cost to introduce wolves, and the losses to the ranchers, and threats to rural life styles, cost of beef goes up and quality goes down since the corporate produced feedlot beef partially makes up the difference. In NE Washington the state has to pay shooters to thin the packs since they are having such a HUGE impact on all aspects of rural lifestyles and income streams.
Durango is the county seat of la plata county and surely has as many liberals per capita as any area of the front range and a booming population, many transplants from the front range . Point being the quality of life in the front range has been seriously degraded by liberal policies, causing a big bailout to other untrammeled places and the cycle starts over again.
I don't understand the mindset of putting wolves in rural areas. I don't live near any of the areas that will be affected, but living in Florida if their is an alligator that could endanger a community where people and pets are living it is killed or removed. Even Disney World has signs cautioning people to stay away from the edges of ponds and waterways, because of alligators, unfortunately a little boy was killed by an alligator on Disney property. Where my daughter and son walk weekly it is a natural water shed but it's a park and it has a lot of alligators, and other wildlife, their are signs, but they don't walk down by the water they stay on the paths, but you can hear them and during mating season you must be extra cautious.
Please explain to me why the state released 10 wolves when they have been here in force for years. I had one in my yard last November just south of Kremmling, a lady friend had one in her yard, just north of Kremmling around the same time. A cattle rancher friend had 4 in one of his pastures, about 12 miles north of Kremmling, two with radio collars. All this before the D.O.W. released the 10 wolves up there outside Radium. So, WTF?
I am part of a few livestock groups on Facebook and occasionally someone posts pictures with “what is killing my animals?” And it’s basically just guessing. There is no way to know. Game camera is about the only way to know for sure. I have seen it be all kinds of things you wouldn’t guess, including humans!
Thanks Trinity for sharing from the ranchers viewpoint how the Wolf release is not a good idea. How long before the wolves can be legally hunted to keep the destructive population down?
It would take another ballot measure. They removed limits or any mention from the wolf management plan. Most of the people I have talked to don’t think it will ever happen in this state
This is the problem. People vote for a policy that doesn’t affect them. If the Eastern side of Colorado wanted wolves then that’s where the wolves should have been introduced. It’s getting to the point where counties need to start standing up to their own state government! Not in my county!
It’s terrible in northern Wisconsin and the upper peninsula of Michigan but our local government and state and local DNR don’t even try to do something they just pass the buck and say it’s federal well try to do something . They don’t even know how to count the packs of wolves . When they run out of food the wolves will move on and go ware the food is so let the city folks deal with it .
Good points, I’m just wondering how many or how long unsolved wolf kills there would be, as I grew up in southern Colorado back in the 60’s there was always a coyote hanging on a fence post, and there was a bounty on them when they really got out of control, I believe they had the same for the wolves also. 😵💫😵💫 it appears now it’s Dam if you do Dam if you Don’t. Like you stated it’s gotten to the point of let’s see and by then it’s too late. 🥴
They had to get the largest and most aggressive sub species to introduce, the McKenzie Vally wolves. The Canadien biologists knew this was stupid and told the FWS wolf team so.
Although I understand where you are coming from, but the flip side is over population of the derr, elk, moose which then erodes the natural environment, correct?
Hi Trinity 👋 This problem is happening worldwide, large city populations have a big impact now on rural communties. People are far to removed from the knowledge of rural life and agriculture. Same problem with reintroducing wolves here in Norway, we are many years on now. Sheep farmers were especially severly impacted and quit. I’m thankfully in a wolf free agri zone here in Norway. That means they will be hunted if they come here. Years on we have had sightings or tracks from a few single travelers in my zone, no other problems yet. The idea started that we needed to bring back the true genetic Norwegian wolf. It was a hoax, the norwegian wolf was hunted to extinction, after ww1 human food was heavily prioritized, predators had to go. After 1972 the wolf was protected again and we already had a small managed russian/finnish wolf population along the border to sweden prior this misconstrued reintroduction. The «norwegian wolf» is forever gone, and we now have the russian hybrids. Setting aside the idea of the norwegian wolf, the scandinavian, european and russian wolf is not endangered. Yet the norwegian people were mislead to think the wolf needed protection and reintroduction to agriculture areas here. Easy to hop on an idea with little to 0 knowledge about the ramifications. We have gotten so comfortable and don’t know how it was to not have food on the table.
Trinity, I love the content. You say you don’t advocate for eradication. Can you do a video on what you think the best solution is? Or maybe what are the possible solutions? How do we coexist with wolves? Would more hunting help? Maybe paying a bounty for hunters who kill them?
No, he won't. He does advocate for eradication. That's why he is doing these videos about Colorado. A state he doesn't even live in. He has already made his way through MT, ID, UT, and WY. Now he has his sites on CO. This is only a rancher thing. They don't advocate for anything else but ranching, decimation of predators, and what no one else will realize, is keeping all animals off their grasses. They only want you to believe that they'll share the land with grazing wild life. But ask them how much of the grasses do they leave for wildlife after cutting hay. Very few ranches will give up hay for wildlife in harsh conditions. I'm not saying all, but these ranchers more than likely won't. And to let you know I own land and livestock, and I ranch responsibly with all animals. It can be done.
Trinity maybe we should release wolves into supermarkets so they could choose between beef, chicken pork, fish or human? If you asked the wolves I don't think they would mind. Then the people in more developed areas could really say they are supporting the reintroduction of wolves.
What if the people that voted the wolves in takes enough of the farmers cattle and start raising them to take care of the farmer and his family since down the road the farmer won’t be able to keep enough cattle alive to support his family. The state of Colorado can give the elk,deer,and moose to other states that will help keep them alive !!
Colorado has ten times the population of Wyoming, probably 6 times of Montana and a lot less public land then either. Wyoming has under 600K but hey guess 800k or a million is close lol. Colorado front range definitely drives the politics. It is unfortunate they don't understand how their food supply works.
Oh they do. Why is it you don't understand how the ecosystem works. Are you against stronger Deer, Elk, and Moose herds. Yes, I know moose don't run around in herds. But it does make for a stronger species. I know you believe that the wolves will decimate the herds of wildlife. But that isn't what happens. The numbers will decline make no mistake about that, but they won't disappear. The wolves move the herds. This enables them to pick off sick and weak animals. In their movements they will move them back. When the herd is strong and harder to hunt they will move on to the next. You can thank the ranchers for giving the wolves fish in a barrel (fenced in cattle/sheep herds). Now the wolf doesn't have to chase the herds. Now comes the ranchers complaining instead of educating themselves. Learn how to deter wolves without killing them. You see, that worked for me. I still only use barbed wire, but I do not have a predator problem. Do they still come on my property? Yes, but they do not bother my livestock. In my years I've lost one rooster and four chickens to predators. 4 chickens to chicken hawks and the rooster to a fox. They were all my fault. I did not kill the fox and it never came back looking for a free meal. I used deterrence. I found out how to keep chicken hawks from getting any more chickens. And they haven't. And before anyone makes a fool of themselves, my chickens free range. I wouldn't have it any other way. You'll understand if you've ever had they're eggs. But not one of my livestock to a predator of any kind.
In 2017 when the wolves were all supposed to be in Idaho and Western Oregon for the furthest west they could possibly be, I witnessed one in South West Oregon Just North of Klamath Falls Nobody can convince me that the wolves aren't on the coast already and everywhere in between
I have to say, I am normally for the re-introduction of wolves, because they CAN have a positive impact on the environment, rivers, streams, birds, beavers, etc. But you cannot do that and penalize ranchers without compensating them for their losses. So you have to weigh out benefit to the environment, if it's evident there is, or not, because there is clearly a cost. Look, it's not all about the ranchers or the wolves, there needs to be a balance and wolves cannot be integrated everywhere they used to roam anymore.
Yes, it is the eastern slope, but nobody from Colorado calls it the eastern slope, they referred to it as the front range and the western slope❤❤❤❤ I live here in Helena, Montana now
Same story as in Michigan. All of the population who felt wolves should be reintroduced live where there are no wolves. 100% of the wolves live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where only 5% of the human population of people exist. It was the people in the Lower Peninsula who decided wolves should be reintroduced and where. Several breeding pairs should be relocated to Traverse City, Charlevoix, Cheboygan and Grayling, and share in the Michigan wolf experience. Maybe we could get laws passed to control them?
As a resident of Idaho, I dread the outcome of wolves in Colorado. The folks that put them there won’t rest until wolves are found in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. I feel for the ranching couple because their woes are just starting. Five breeding pairs of wolves and all the elk there will proliferate exponentially. There is too much asphalt, too many palaces on the benches and too many people. Ten years from now, there will be nothing to hunt. Maybe when the bighorn and mountain goat are extinct in Colorado, those responsible will see what they have done. This is one of the greatest mistakes of our generation.
“good land management”. It’s a topic that needs to be discussed b/c we’re used to bad land management and creating radical non management policies rather than good land management policies. This is an issue in a lot of areas including large commercial farming. Instead of discussing and creating and implementing policies requiring good farming land management practices the people with the loudest bark are talking about implementing non farming/ non land management policies.
We have enough wolves in state government, telling the rural people what they should, and shouldn’t put up with. Until they’re a little poodles, getting eaten by wolves in the city, they won’t care, ranchers, and farmers, who are raising livestock, will bear the brunt of this decision as usual, but when the packages of meat stop showing up in the grocery store, they might think twice about their stupid decisions
This is a similar issue in Michigan however it’s not with the introduction of animals. It’s with our second amendment rights. The city’s in Michigan are having major problems with “gun violence”. So the city’s make the distinction for the rest of the state. It’s really mob think the mob in the city’s create problems. Then the rest of the state has to deal with the tyranny. And loss of fundamental constitutional freedoms and rights.
We have a family ranch in Southeast Washington, where they re-introduced wolves several years ago. Most of our neighbors have lost their farm dogs to the wolves not to mention many cattle and livestock. We used to frequently see herds of 200 to 300 elk crossing our field in front of our home, and for the last several years the deer and elk are almost nonexistent. The wolves have completely wiped out the population of deer and elk. We used to feel fairly comfortable, hiking around in the woods before the wolves. We never go out without a gun since they re-introduced wolves. Last year someone shot a collared wolf and you would’ve thought somebody shot the governor with all the government vehicles that showed up to investigate.
Should have never reported to those assholes
Its very admirable of you to speak up for ranchers in another state. Globally, we are all in this together folks.
Nationalism not globalism. Globalism is anti-Christ stuff bud.
Thanks Trinity for all that you do for rural America. Makes me sick what the city folks force on rural communities.
As a city boy who loves this rural content, I’m extremely confused as to why people think releasing more predators into the wild is a good idea. I’m truly baffled by this. Thanks Trinity for the solid content.
It isn't wild. They're releasing into populated & agricultural areas. The wild areas in Colorado are too small to support a wolf population. That's why they needed to do the study, which they didn't do. If it was truly wild then nobody would care if there was wolves. If people do care, that tells you it isn't wild.
Well it's complicated but here's the general idea. Back in the 60s and 70s the conservation/environmentalism craze hit. Overall a good idea. We want to be good stewards of our planet. Now imagine your standard bell curve. One the left side are your crazy radicals who want extreme environmentalist restrictions, and radical changes. On the right side you have the crazies who want absolutely nothing done and basically just rape the planet. In the middle are your average everyday people and by far the vast majority. What took place, was the crazies on the left found an ear in the left political spectrum. So, the typical trade votes for policy situation. Sadly as time progressed the number of people buying into the crazy side of things grew so that the bell curve shifted left. Keep in mind many of these people are good people with good intentions but have been misled.
Now lets cover the level of knowledge on this topic. Most people have no idea what animal management is about, whether it be a farm or a wildlife population. Next we add bad information into the mix. On top of the lack of education, consider the movie "Never cry wolf". In this movie, which was supposedly based on a true story, we have a scientist that lives amongst the wolves of Alaska and learns that they don't really eat many large game animals etc but instead they eat mostly mice and oh by the way they are friendly. The "scientist" that wrote the book was later discovered to have never lived with the wolves or done the research claimed in the book and hence the movie is based on virtual bs. Add to that "Apex Predator Theory" and lets keep in mind it is a theory and a bad one. Many people have subscribed to it and sadly it is wrong. Better research has shown its not like a food pyramid system but more like a spider web where each change in the system is connected to the other parts of the system in a web vs the top down flow downward (roughly put) idea of apex predator theory. Lastly on the misinformation front are scientists who have become politicized and are pushing for changes like wolf introductions not based on actual science but based on what they think needs to be done.
Ok, with that thinking in mind, consider what happened. These activist scientists decided that the wolves were going extinct, even with the 50k+ wolves in Canada and Alaska, but I digress. So, they created a plan for introducing wolves to Yellowstone to ahem, restore balance to the ecosystem and save the wolves. They sought input from people on the plan. Where? One meeting in Billings, which was near the park and the rest were all around the country. If I recall one was even in Orlando FL. What basically happened was all the "city slickers" gave input that was naturally "Yea go for it". On the other hand, all the people that have to live with the effects of the wolves were saying "Whoa. Hold on there. This is going to have bad consequences." The pro wolf people make their claims of all the benefits, which, while you can see some, they adamantly fight against the idea of damages being done. Somehow in their minds, the negatives don't matter (or when seeing what some say, they don't even exist, which is the biggest lie or at a minimum, a the biggest head in the sand approach one has ever witnessed). Pro wolf people also say stupid things like "Just get LGD, use flashy fences or whatever" like these things don't cost anything and work perfectly. Reality on the other hand is there is a large negative impact from introducing the wolves and we need to stop pretending there isn't. There can be wolves if managed correctly but that means the pro wolf side has to come to grips with reality and let them be hunted, pay ranchers for real (its a huge discussion about the bs behind ranchers getting paid for lost animals, they in effect don't for the most part). This is the top level summary but gives you a good idea what brought us to this point.
It makes the city folks feel warm and fuzzy inside bringing the wolves back to Colorado
@@organicfarmer23 That is why I advocate for bringing wolves back to the entire original wolf range. That means NYC central park, wolves. Downtown LA. Wolves. The entire US was wolf range, make it that way again. Once you do, reason should prevail and there will be an abrupt and radical change in ideas of wolf management. Once it is no longer someone else's problem and people have to deal with it themselves and understand what the real issues are, things will change.
There is an agenda ......
Well, certain cities make it easier for human predators..
So the same people do this in states and specifically around areas that cause chaos to a natural ecosystem , individual ranchers,
There is always an agenda..
What do you think it is.
❤ "Common sense isn't so common" Keep up the good work and spreading the truth cowboy...we all need to hear it! ❤
I am from Michigan Upper Peninsula with a population of 300,000. They introduced wolves back in the 80’s with 2 packs about 12-15 wolves, now DNR says there 700 wolves but that’s the number been the same for last 20 years . Independent studies says there 2,000+ . They have devastated our deer to almost nothing. Try to get a wolf hunt on the ballot a few years back but got defeated because lower Michigan doesn’t have wolves and a population of 20 million people. I know farmers who have lost hundreds of cattle to wolf killings. I feel sorry for Colorado because they will devastate the wildlife and won’t be able to let their cattle free range…
That's the DNR ( government) plan No game to self sustaining yourselves or cattle. They are destroying the wilderness an the human population.
I see the same thing happening in Arizona’. We have the Mexican Gray Wolves here and the big city’s are making the decisions for rural Arizona. Ranchers go out of business and corporate farms and ranchers will take over the production and they don’t care about the health of the animals or crops, just the profits.
Thank you Trinity for bringing this to light I watched your previous video with Rod and I absolutely totally believe in what you and the Rangers are saying I'm with them thank you for bringing these videos they are very well needed just need to get the people in the Front Range to not be so democratized and figure out it's okay to eat animals harvest forest like they should be
Thanks again. You are spot on in this assessment of wolves. I hope people sit up and listen before it's too late and that is definitely coming.
Thanks for what you are trying to accomplish. People need to understand what is actually important. If we keep going on the direction we are heading then we as a nation can look forward to famine because some think that the wolf is cute.
Thank you Trinity for sharing this information with your community.
Here in Michigan, we have a similar situation in our Upper Peninsula.
The good folks in Lansing and Detroit decided that wolves should be protected and therefore people who will likely never see a wolf are making decisions which impact only the people and wildlife from hundreds of miles away.
Bless’ns to you sir,
Tedd
Michigan has made many attempts to delist the wolves. It has been the Federal courts that have not allowed it!
Thank you for shedding light on this i also live in a very very small town in Idaho. I worked for fish and game and seen first hand what wolves can do. We came across about 6 elk killed by wolves most were young, the snow was deep that year so they couldn't make a quick escape. It was sad to see this. These city ppl do not understand anything about wolves. But we and the wildlife have to deal with the consequences of their ignorance. I hear the argument all the time that they only kill what they need, the young, the sick, thats simply not true. But these ppl dont work with them or probably never seen a wolf with their own two eyes. Wolves are not humans they do not think on the same terms as humans do. Idk where this thought process comes from, but your right Trinity its social media, these documentaries and trying to humanize an animal. Thanks again for the insight Trinity.
Who's trying to humanize them. You've left me shaking my head on your comment. What you've said is only half truths. This is the results of social media.
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Please explain what you're referring to as "only half truths" ... What exactly are you taking issue with in this person's comment?
Wolves belong there.
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Apparently not! They introduced the wrong wolf. These wolves are from higher up country; used to bigger, faster and more challenging game.
This is a fiasco out of the gate!
@@freeto9139 Nope. There are ZERO peer reviewed papers that state they reintroduced the wrong wolves.
Here in the Washington Cascades we had massive beetle kill in the 80s and 90s and now we have devastating wildfires almost yearly.
I want to tell you I was critical of one of your videos not too long ago, but I do appreciate all your content. This video was very spot on and the ones that you’re doing down in Colorado. Myself as third generation , Houndsman and my son has a fourth here in Montana appreciate videos like this. I look at this as a pattern to the Y2Y initiative, it is a naturalization pattern of removing humans and using predators as the management tool for our ungulates. What’s a better way to end hunting and when you end hunting you end the use of firearms. So again love your content, keep up the good work. I would encourage you to come to some of the commission meetings here in Montana that have anything to do with the wolves, and or the next legislative session where there will obviously be some content on predators as far as bills. I would like to see you do a video on Montana losing one whole month of Wolf trapping due to the environmentalist or anti-Trapping legislation brought on by some of the groups in Missoula, Montana and the anti-Trapping group, bringing Judge Donald Malloy out of retirement to do their bidding in which judge Malloy ruled to take away a big portion of our trapping season for wolves using the grizzly Bears is a crotch, which was about ending Trapping, and had nothing to do with the grizzly bears, here in Montana for wolves.
Thank you sincerely,
Terry L. Zink
Zink’s Big sky Archery Targets
Zink’s Big Game Hounds
Minnesota Rancher. Thanks Trinity for your work and videos. Spot on! And thanks Terry for your contribution as well. Here in northern Minnesota we can attest to the truth in what you say.
Hey Trinity, I really like these wolf videos. I would love it if you interviewed some ranchers/farmers that have heavy wolf pressure and what they do to try to deal with the problems. What type of solutions they come up with, effectiveness of guard dogs etc.... I have a feeling a lot of people could benefit from such info. I might need it myself eventually. I have been seeing more and more lone wolves here in Wisconsin lately and I have a small starter herd of cattle. A couple wolf kills would be devastating for me. Thanks.
Get some protective dogs to protect your cattle .
@@nancysmith-baker1813 Thank you. For once someone who is figuring out how to truly ranch.
@@richcox3982 your welcome , Irish wolf hound , boyzoe - Russian wolf hound .
Gray hounds . Saw a video of some farmers who had a pack of gray hounds , boy did they take down the coyotes .
There are others too .good luck .
I was in Colorado back in November near Larkspur. Every morning I took my GSP for a run in an open space. One fine morning the biggest coyotes I have ever seen popped up over a birm and were advancing aggressively towards my dog. In Texas, coyotes usually turn tail and run away from dogs and people. But these guys were different. When they got to 50 yards of me and my dog, I busted a cap. (I have a chl) The warning shot worked. They ran off. Regardless I have neve seen aggressive coyotes in Texas in my 70 years and I hunt. On my way out I encountered a gentleman who was getting ready to release his dogs. I warned him. He told me the problem is peope in they are used to people and have no fear. He also told me I was lucky no one heard the shot and reported me. Well. Maybe I was lucky. And the hassle of dealing with law enforcement enforcement wouldn't have been fun. But if myself or my animals are in danger I'll take my chances.
Not just coyotes. Lion and bear will attack also. They constantly live trap on the eastern slope and release them here
I don't understand people who think they care about the environment so much yet have no bearing on how it works. There's nobody who care for the environment more than a farmer or rancher, and there's nobody who can actually fix problems better than a farmer or rancher and yet people think that farmers and ranchers are the problem. What you are doing is probably the best way to educate people on this subject. Keep it up.
Cause they are ignorant. To many wolves is not a good thing. Ppl think it's just gunna be the same thing it was 200 years ago.
What if it's being done to narrow hunting opportunities? Less hunters means loss of shooting sports. 2A is in trouble
@@autumnthomas3923 I kinda agree, they're bringing in different wolves to Colorado than there was 200 years ago, these ones are bigger hence require more food. Also it's a human caused problem that's causing more human problems. Some people don't like elk hunting so they ban it on their property and elk have learned to congregate there during the elk hunting season which is allowing there population to grow huge and elk actually cause a major problem for ranchers and farmers by eating their food, and sadly when elk congregate at those massive feedlots and when wolves come in they get too excited because the elk have grown so soft so they are basically fat standstill targets for the wolves which can cause the wolves to go on a killing frenzy and they deplete the elk for a while. Then once elk and deer are depleted they go after big game, but where Colorado doesn't have that much big game they attack cattle which leads to the wolf's death.
Hahahaha Farmers/Ranchers care’s about the environment, I needed a good laugh, thanks for that
Since when?
They try to get rid of everything that’s in there way, so simple is that
Conservationists care about the ecosystem.
Here's a fact: if ranchers and farmers cared about the ecosystem, they wouldn't be wanting the wolves killed off.
I live in Northern Wisconsin and your work on this matter is greatly appreciated! Keep up the good work!
As a rural farmer in Colorado this is a very wonderful video
So you know more than God is that what you’re saying? Explains why you’re a farmer and not a real rancher and I seriously doubt that you’re native. If you are, it’s sad that your relatives did not teach you how to live with nature instead of just profit from it while destroying it as a farmer, I would think you would understand the importance of nature and being able to reuse things.
@@Ru4mx2 yet again another person that knows everything about agriculture while not being actively involved in it. Always easy to judge how those of us in agriculture do things with a full belly.
@@organicfarmer23 As a person made it to Colorado, who understands ranching I understand how to live with nature not destroy it. The fact that you use organic in your handle tells me everything I need to know about you another douche bag probably from San Diego who has no concept of how to live with nature you move here Because you think it’s amazing and the first thing you wanna 0:26 do is destroy it. Like I said name, one time, when humans like you get involved with nature that it is ever worked out well for the world, the country or state, or nature itself all you do is destroy you don’t learn to live with things just off of it how sad
Thanks Trinity , as I said on your other vid to do with Colorado wolves ; We went through this same nightmare in Ontario Can. In the late 60s early 70s
Please keep keep up the good work !
Thxs Trinity for sharing this research. Through increased education to the populated areas with the majority of voters. 👍🏻🇺🇸
It's not "research". A bunch of stories and opinions, even those based on extensive experience, still isn't research. In fact, that's one of the things he's complaining about. No research was done before the wolves were released. Just a bunch of arguing, followed by a vote which was decided by less than 1%. The narrowness of the decision is an indicator that many people weren't really convinced. Probably because there was no research to rely on.
Hire slick trappers like me to catch the wolves and relocate them to urban subdivisions in the middle of the night. 😂😆
Wait till one of the voters loses a pet or God forbid child to a wolf. Who will they blame then?
Controlled burns and letting fires burn is also so important for the land.
Thank you for sharing and educating us on this issue!
Absolutely a great video, right on and keep it coming from a guy in Alberta Canada.
FARMERS & RANCHERS FIRST
from da Bronx 😎
Thank you for your videos on trying to educate us.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
The city people have the nerve to call you ranchers 'lazy' for not fencing wolves out. Which is of course a ridiculous idea no one could afford. Even if they could 'afford' it, the cost of meat would not longer justify raising livestock. Which is of course the point.
They don't care if you can afford it either, it means you're too 'poor' to ranch. This is who the city people are.
Great knowledge while interviewing people directly involved.
I have a farm on the east coast and raise beef cattle. I sure as heck don’t want any wolves near me.
Awesome content. You are making a difference.
Their moving there way further north here in New Mexico, got hay from a guy this week from a guy who ranches south of Belen NM, was showing us pictures of some of his cows, that were literally eaten alive by wolves!! Got my 30-06 locked n loaded to protect our herd! 🤷♂️
Thanks Trinity for continuing to bring light to these issues. I’m not a rancher but have huge respect for people who are. As a sportsman, I am highly concerned about our ability to go hunting in the future. It seems these wildlife extremists want nothing more than to end ranching and hunting. Unfortunately they are winning. I have been promoting and donating to Coloradans For Responsible Wildlife Management as they are at the forefront of the fight. I’m curious what organizations from the ranching community are leading the fight. I think it’s time we work together to put these ideas to bed before they ruin our way of life
You might think that with the internet, people would be more educated than ever. However, it seems they often come across false information instead. While I hunt and have friends who are farmers, I live in a small city in flyover country. That said, if I knew nothing about the topic and only knew that people living in rural areas did not want wolves, I would be inclined to vote no just on that basis alone. Thanks for the great content as always 👍
However we do have the internet and people choose not to be informed. That includes the ranchers speaking against the wolves.
@@richcox3982 shit up you fool
@@richcox3982 I read your message on here and you have no idea what you’re talking about. You completely misinterpreted what this man’s intentions were first of all. Damn fool
I think one of the many problems is misinformation on both ends of the spectrum. Some people believe that wolves are heartless monsters that kill every living thing in their territory while others believe that they can do no harm and that they magically fix all the problems caused by humans instantly.
I know wolves play a vital role in the ecosystem, so at least I'm not using false information.
Great video Trinity. You are spot on.
Very good videos Trinity nothing will happen until wolves run down humans. Like your interviews . Keep up the good work.
Thank you
I live in north Idaho - north of Coeur d’Alene, out in the sticks with my three horses, dog and cat. I hear wolves howling at night near my place and neighbors in the area have spotted them often . They definitely have impacted the area with loss of livestock,no question
Impacted ranchers yes, but not the area. Hang on to the blessing you have. Most people won't have the opportunity to hear that sound unless it's a recording.
This is why you don't need s permit to hunt them in Alaska. The moose calves are being decimated by wolves .
Wolves are large , dangerous predators that are opportunistic killers in the top of the food chain .
Are humans not the same way?
Yeah, going to disagree. Only man hunts for sport, wolves no, and they don't overkill or over eat. It's why Islands with wolves and elk or deer find a balance that sustains both. We are the X factor that throws the balance off. Somehow native americans had that figured out as well.
Another GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thanks Trinity for the video
SSS.. If you know, you know!. Much love everyone, from McDermitt Oregon
I feel your pain. Same thing going on here in the North Star State.
Thank you for this. I learned a lot!
Well done Trinity.
The cities within your state should not be allowed to rule or vote on the things that go on in rural America the politicians should be separate in your state!! The reason it should be separate from Cities to rural America is because people in the city have no idea what goes on in rural America. We don’t tell them what to do so they Shouldn’t tell Rural America what to do should not tell roar, Merica what they can do.
We are in Southern California. There are wolves in the local Sequoia forest. The hunters and public is increasing witnessing wolves. The public here generally is unarmed. It is only a matter of time before a Human is eaten by a pack.
Here in Upper Michigan (especially in the northern half-heavy snow area usually) the impact has really come to light. deer harvest this year was half of what the wolves take. Officially 650 wolves but “could be” as high as 1400. Having this population is ridiculous-control is needed now.
In this State the southern populations control everything about our lives here in rural areas. That’s wrong.
I personally believe we need to separate from these “ignorant of the real rural world” folks since we apparently can’t put wolves in the cities and surrounding suburbs.
The eastern slope is always creating issues for the western slope. They are also diverting water from the west to the east slope
I don't have any money and I still work but what can I do to help these Ranchers
On top of the cost to introduce wolves, and the losses to the ranchers, and threats to rural life styles, cost of beef goes up and quality goes down since the corporate produced feedlot beef partially makes up the difference. In NE Washington the state has to pay shooters to thin the packs since they are having such a HUGE impact on all aspects of rural lifestyles and income streams.
Durango is the county seat of la plata county and surely has as many liberals per capita as any area of the front range and a booming population, many transplants from the front range . Point being the quality of life in the front range has been seriously degraded by liberal policies, causing a big bailout to other untrammeled places and the cycle starts over again.
We are already having issues with wolves in Idaho to the point we're using thermals to hunt them down on the ranches.
Trinity, It would be interesting if you would have a discussion about wolves with Dr. Doug smith.
Hope to see you in NM soon keep spreading he truth about wolves
I don't understand the mindset of putting wolves in rural areas. I don't live near any of the areas that will be affected, but living in Florida if their is an alligator that could endanger a community where people and pets are living it is killed or removed. Even Disney World has signs cautioning people to stay away from the edges of ponds and waterways, because of alligators, unfortunately a little boy was killed by an alligator on Disney property. Where my daughter and son walk weekly it is a natural water shed but it's a park and it has a lot of alligators, and other wildlife, their are signs, but they don't walk down by the water they stay on the paths, but you can hear them and during mating season you must be extra cautious.
Same thing with pine beetle trees in western Montana.
Please explain to me why the state released 10 wolves when they have been here in force for years. I had one in my yard last November just south of Kremmling, a lady friend had one in her yard, just north of Kremmling around the same time. A cattle rancher friend had 4 in one of his pastures, about 12 miles north of Kremmling, two with radio collars. All this before the D.O.W. released the 10 wolves up there outside Radium. So, WTF?
Wolf's killed a teacher out for a jog , in AK six years ago.
Just heartbreaking 💔
What incredibly stupid legislation!
I am part of a few livestock groups on Facebook and occasionally someone posts pictures with “what is killing my animals?” And it’s basically just guessing. There is no way to know. Game camera is about the only way to know for sure. I have seen it be all kinds of things you wouldn’t guess, including humans!
Thanks Trinity for sharing from the ranchers viewpoint how the Wolf release is not a good idea.
How long before the wolves can be legally hunted to keep the destructive population down?
Not until numbers reach over 200 wolves in the state
It would take another ballot measure. They removed limits or any mention from the wolf management plan. Most of the people I have talked to don’t think it will ever happen in this state
This is the problem. People vote for a policy that doesn’t affect them. If the Eastern side of Colorado wanted wolves then that’s where the wolves should have been introduced. It’s getting to the point where counties need to start standing up to their own state government! Not in my county!
It’s terrible in northern Wisconsin and the upper peninsula of Michigan but our local government and state and local DNR don’t even try to do something they just pass the buck and say it’s federal well try to do something . They don’t even know how to count the packs of wolves . When they run out of food the wolves will move on and go ware the food is so let the city folks deal with it .
My Urban Wolves have beer guts and won't stop smoking stogies.
This is the WEF and the restablishment of the animals that can migrate from Alaska to the tip of S.America.
Glad she told the story of the NM county about the school bus stop cages.
Good points, I’m just wondering how many or how long unsolved wolf kills there would be, as I grew up in southern Colorado back in the 60’s there was always a coyote hanging on a fence post, and there was a bounty on them when they really got out of control, I believe they had the same for the wolves also. 😵💫😵💫 it appears now it’s Dam if you do Dam if you Don’t. Like you stated it’s gotten to the point of let’s see and by then it’s too late. 🥴
They had to get the largest and most aggressive sub species to introduce, the McKenzie Vally wolves. The Canadien biologists knew this was stupid and told the FWS wolf team so.
At least they aren't damaging the ecosystem.
More beef, no wolves!
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Although I understand where you are coming from, but the flip side is over population of the derr, elk, moose which then erodes the natural environment, correct?
Hi Trinity 👋
This problem is happening worldwide, large city populations have a big impact now on rural communties. People are far to removed from the knowledge of rural life and agriculture. Same problem with reintroducing wolves here in Norway, we are many years on now. Sheep farmers were especially severly impacted and quit. I’m thankfully in a wolf free agri zone here in Norway. That means they will be hunted if they come here. Years on we have had sightings or tracks from a few single travelers in my zone, no other problems yet. The idea started that we needed to bring back the true genetic Norwegian wolf. It was a hoax, the norwegian wolf was hunted to extinction, after ww1 human food was heavily prioritized, predators had to go. After 1972 the wolf was protected again and we already had a small managed russian/finnish wolf population along the border to sweden prior this misconstrued reintroduction. The «norwegian wolf» is forever gone, and we now have the russian hybrids. Setting aside the idea of the norwegian wolf, the scandinavian, european and russian wolf is not endangered. Yet the norwegian people were mislead to think the wolf needed protection and reintroduction to agriculture areas here. Easy to hop on an idea with little to 0 knowledge about the ramifications. We have gotten so comfortable and don’t know how it was to not have food on the table.
Trinity, I love the content. You say you don’t advocate for eradication. Can you do a video on what you think the best solution is? Or maybe what are the possible solutions? How do we coexist with wolves? Would more hunting help? Maybe paying a bounty for hunters who kill them?
No, he won't. He does advocate for eradication. That's why he is doing these videos about Colorado. A state he doesn't even live in. He has already made his way through MT, ID, UT, and WY. Now he has his sites on CO. This is only a rancher thing. They don't advocate for anything else but ranching, decimation of predators, and what no one else will realize, is keeping all animals off their grasses. They only want you to believe that they'll share the land with grazing wild life. But ask them how much of the grasses do they leave for wildlife after cutting hay. Very few ranches will give up hay for wildlife in harsh conditions. I'm not saying all, but these ranchers more than likely won't. And to let you know I own land and livestock, and I ranch responsibly with all animals. It can be done.
@@richcox3982 Fact: they WANT the ecosystem destroyed. Literally EVERYONE who wants wolves killed off does.
Jurrasic Park- let's release T-rex and Raptors. The movie scared people but wolves don't!?
Trinity maybe we should release wolves into supermarkets so they could choose between beef, chicken pork, fish or human? If you asked the wolves I don't think they would mind. Then the people in more developed areas could really say they are supporting the reintroduction of wolves.
What if the people that voted the wolves in takes enough of the farmers cattle and start raising them to take care of the farmer and his family since down the road the farmer won’t be able to keep enough cattle alive to support his family. The state of Colorado can give the elk,deer,and moose to other states that will help keep them alive !!
If they get rid of the cows and wild game, we will all be eating bugs.
Shoot, shovel & shut up. A philosophy of a rancher in Montana I knew. If you bury a tracking collar 6ft they can't be tracked...
Our cedar, and pinion juniper doesn't grow quickly. It takes 20 years for a cedar to get waist high.
Colorado has ten times the population of Wyoming, probably 6 times of Montana and a lot less public land then either. Wyoming has under 600K but hey guess 800k or a million is close lol. Colorado front range definitely drives the politics. It is unfortunate they don't understand how their food supply works.
Oh they do. Why is it you don't understand how the ecosystem works. Are you against stronger Deer, Elk, and Moose herds. Yes, I know moose don't run around in herds. But it does make for a stronger species. I know you believe that the wolves will decimate the herds of wildlife. But that isn't what happens. The numbers will decline make no mistake about that, but they won't disappear. The wolves move the herds. This enables them to pick off sick and weak animals. In their movements they will move them back. When the herd is strong and harder to hunt they will move on to the next. You can thank the ranchers for giving the wolves fish in a barrel (fenced in cattle/sheep herds). Now the wolf doesn't have to chase the herds. Now comes the ranchers complaining instead of educating themselves. Learn how to deter wolves without killing them. You see, that worked for me. I still only use barbed wire, but I do not have a predator problem. Do they still come on my property? Yes, but they do not bother my livestock. In my years I've lost one rooster and four chickens to predators. 4 chickens to chicken hawks and the rooster to a fox. They were all my fault. I did not kill the fox and it never came back looking for a free meal. I used deterrence. I found out how to keep chicken hawks from getting any more chickens. And they haven't. And before anyone makes a fool of themselves, my chickens free range. I wouldn't have it any other way. You'll understand if you've ever had they're eggs. But not one of my livestock to a predator of any kind.
In 2017 when the wolves were all supposed to be in Idaho and Western Oregon for the furthest west they could possibly be, I witnessed one in South West Oregon Just North of Klamath Falls
Nobody can convince me that the wolves aren't on the coast already and everywhere in between
Wolves are in N. CA now and working south.
A total disaster will ensue.
There is definitely a medium ground where both needs can be met. It just has to be fleshed out, pun intended.
Rural residents could capture some or most of the wolves and relocate them to the eastern slope.
Imagine if rural folk trapped the wolves and "rehomed" them in the populated areas.
I agree it makes me so mad that ignorant people make laws that hurt Hard working people
I have to say, I am normally for the re-introduction of wolves, because they CAN have a positive impact on the environment, rivers, streams, birds, beavers, etc. But you cannot do that and penalize ranchers without compensating them for their losses. So you have to weigh out benefit to the environment, if it's evident there is, or not, because there is clearly a cost. Look, it's not all about the ranchers or the wolves, there needs to be a balance and wolves cannot be integrated everywhere they used to roam anymore.
Say good bye to your moose. I live in central Idaho and most of the local moose became wolf food.
Yes, it is the eastern slope, but nobody from Colorado calls it the eastern slope, they referred to it as the front range and the western slope❤❤❤❤ I live here in Helena, Montana now
Same story as in Michigan. All of the population who felt wolves should be reintroduced live where there are no wolves. 100% of the wolves live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where only 5% of the human population of people exist. It was the people in the Lower Peninsula who decided wolves should be reintroduced and where. Several breeding pairs should be relocated to Traverse City, Charlevoix, Cheboygan and Grayling, and share in the Michigan wolf experience. Maybe we could get laws passed to control them?
As a resident of Idaho, I dread the outcome of wolves in Colorado. The folks that put them there won’t rest until wolves are found in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. I feel for the ranching couple because their woes are just starting. Five breeding pairs of wolves and all the elk there will proliferate exponentially. There is too much asphalt, too many palaces on the benches and too many people.
Ten years from now, there will be nothing to hunt. Maybe when the bighorn and mountain goat are extinct in Colorado, those responsible will see what they have done. This is one of the greatest mistakes of our generation.
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So people who know nothing about ranching and land AG think they know what's best instead of doing the research 🤦♀️
There's a reason for the old storys like the big bad wolf 🐺 ! Look at us in the southeast with the alagater !
“good land management”. It’s a topic that needs to be discussed b/c we’re used to bad land management and creating radical non management policies rather than good land management policies. This is an issue in a lot of areas including large commercial farming. Instead of discussing and creating and implementing policies requiring good farming land management practices the people with the loudest bark are talking about implementing non farming/ non land management policies.
We have enough wolves in state government, telling the rural people what they should, and shouldn’t put up with. Until they’re a little poodles, getting eaten by wolves in the city, they won’t care, ranchers, and farmers, who are raising livestock, will bear the brunt of this decision as usual, but when the packages of meat stop showing up in the grocery store, they might think twice about their stupid decisions
This is a similar issue in Michigan however it’s not with the introduction of animals. It’s with our second amendment rights. The city’s in Michigan are having major problems with “gun violence”. So the city’s make the distinction for the rest of the state. It’s really mob think the mob in the city’s create problems. Then the rest of the state has to deal with the tyranny. And loss of fundamental constitutional freedoms and rights.
And now just like Colorado, Idaho is now getting Californication
Good job but probably falling on deaf ears as a whole. Thanks
I'm from western SC so you know. Bot it concerns me greatly.