Good info and a reality check for me at 65. Started lifting again in July 2022 after 18 years of lazy life (bought the books). Deadlift increased by 135 then hit the wall. Switched to 3E workout plan and one pound a week. Linear progress again just at a shallower slope on the graph. Thanks for the reminder that one pound per week is still 52 in a year.
Sully, fully concur regarding neck neutrality and eye gaze - WRITE IT UP, Doc! Also, extending one’s tongue slightly between the teeth tends to curtail clenching during a lift. Excellent episode, men, thanks.
Thanks so much for this. At 75 I’m in a rush to add weight, realizing I’m not going to be able to do so for much longer. Ego! I needed to hear the math. Thanks.
Concerning the progression per session: Train for the infinite game. The main goal of training (especially in our age) is to be able to train next year.
I'm intermediate and down to a .5 lb plate each side on the press and not ashamed at all. I'm ecstatic I'm progressing every single week on it. It adds up over time. 1 lb on each side for the bench press. Shoulders and chest are getting huge and solid, NOT complaining!
Very informative. The SS mantra seems to me to have been to add 5lbs to the bar during the linear progression, especially for the squat. This point really needed to be clarified.
5 lbs per workout, until you can't do five pounds per workout. Then you have a choice, add a lower weight and keep progressing until that doesn't work, or intermediate programming as outlined in Practical Programming, this is also discussed in The Barbell Prescription. I'll use myself as an example: I ran into a stall first on my overhead press. I should not have let that happen, I should have dropped the weight on my Linear progression instead of stalling. So what I did was deload 20% then moved back up in 2.5 lb increments instead of 5 which has worked out well, since I have surpassed my stall weight. Recognizing early that you are running out of steam, and the need to lower your increments might save you some time, instead of walking backward for a few weeks like I did. To me, this seems the simpler fix, at least early in your programming than switching to intermediate programming. Just some thoughts, hope it helps.
Brilliant discussion of the factors involved in progression. I find the same thing at age 68 in terms of intense endurance exercise (cycling) Shall use the "Hayden"
I clenched my teeth so hard during a deadlift once it injured my jaw and that lasted about a week. I was 100% unconscious of doing it the whole time til that happened. I also from time to time wake up with them clenched. I don't think I can "unlearn" such a thing, but a mouth guard might be a good idea.
Hey Doc what is your opinion on PRP therapy for Tendonitis of the Lower Quads.. I use Rips Book for form and Wendler's Programming . I just turned 59 and doing well for my age on lifts...Even Convinced my Orthopedic Surgeon to trail with Grey Steel.. But he did recommend to perform some VMO training for quads which according to Rip we do not need.. Am i Missing something
A propos: My PT and I are trying to work out a squat where the neck stays neutral. It turns out that a front squat works best for me, accompanied by strength training of the traps, since we verified that this is not kyphosis. Comments?
Hm, never thought to notice whether I clench my teeth in a lift or not. Pretty sure I don't though. And I'm definitely not the kind of person you were talking about clenching their teeth all through daily life. I'm probably too "type B" for that kind of thing...
Good info and a reality check for me at 65. Started lifting again in July 2022 after 18 years of lazy life (bought the books). Deadlift increased by 135 then hit the wall. Switched to 3E workout plan and one pound a week. Linear progress again just at a shallower slope on the graph. Thanks for the reminder that one pound per week is still 52 in a year.
Love the pop up comments! 0.8 Haydens, Bitchin! Great information. Many thanks
Thanks for watching!
Sully, fully concur regarding neck neutrality and eye gaze - WRITE IT UP, Doc! Also, extending one’s tongue slightly between the teeth tends to curtail clenching during a lift. Excellent episode, men, thanks.
You answered my questions about progression. I'm 70 and been on and off due to life since an open heart process 4 years ago . Thank you.
Our pleasure!
You two are informative and entertaining.
Thanks so much for this. At 75 I’m in a rush to add weight, realizing I’m not going to be able to do so for much longer. Ego! I needed to hear the math. Thanks.
Excellent! Excellent, indeed!!
My views/philosophies exactly!
Concerning the progression per session: Train for the infinite game. The main goal of training (especially in our age) is to be able to train next year.
You guys are quite a team! I actually have fractional plates that are 0.5 lbs each. No shame in progressing slow; I'm in it for the long haul.
I'm intermediate and down to a .5 lb plate each side on the press and not ashamed at all. I'm ecstatic I'm progressing every single week on it. It adds up over time. 1 lb on each side for the bench press. Shoulders and chest are getting huge and solid, NOT complaining!
I've done half pound jumps, particularly in press.
Great information. Thanks
Thank you, that was useful. I might point out, however, coming to terms with one’s ego at my age is frankly Groundhog Day from hell- again.
Yeah- I wish I’d listened to this one 4 years ago. Lol.
As always- appreciate your wisdom.
I’ve been dialing in my return to NLP, which happens too often.
40-50 lb jumps are the norm, then dropping to 25, 10, then 5 lb jumps.
Very informative. The SS mantra seems to me to have been to add 5lbs to the bar during the linear progression, especially for the squat. This point really needed to be clarified.
5 lbs per workout, until you can't do five pounds per workout. Then you have a choice, add a lower weight and keep progressing until that doesn't work, or intermediate programming as outlined in Practical Programming, this is also discussed in The Barbell Prescription. I'll use myself as an example: I ran into a stall first on my overhead press. I should not have let that happen, I should have dropped the weight on my Linear progression instead of stalling. So what I did was deload 20% then moved back up in 2.5 lb increments instead of 5 which has worked out well, since I have surpassed my stall weight. Recognizing early that you are running out of steam, and the need to lower your increments might save you some time, instead of walking backward for a few weeks like I did. To me, this seems the simpler fix, at least early in your programming than switching to intermediate programming. Just some thoughts, hope it helps.
Brilliant discussion of the factors involved in progression. I find the same thing at age 68 in terms of intense endurance exercise (cycling)
Shall use the "Hayden"
😁Excellent. I suggest you advance at 3.141592 Haydens.
Hey Hayden where did you get that cool barbell T-shirt? I would like to get a few.
I clenched my teeth so hard during a deadlift once it injured my jaw and that lasted about a week. I was 100% unconscious of doing it the whole time til that happened. I also from time to time wake up with them clenched. I don't think I can "unlearn" such a thing, but a mouth guard might be a good idea.
Yes. No problem wearing a mouthguarf
Nothing wrong with wearing a mouth guard. I strongly maintain, however, that as long as a person is still breathing they CAN learn new skills.
Hey Doc what is your opinion on PRP therapy for Tendonitis of the Lower Quads.. I use Rips Book for form and Wendler's Programming . I just turned 59 and doing well for my age on lifts...Even Convinced my Orthopedic Surgeon to trail with Grey Steel.. But he did recommend to perform some VMO training for quads which according to Rip we do not need.. Am i Missing something
A propos: My PT and I are trying to work out a squat where the neck stays neutral. It turns out that a front squat works best for me, accompanied by strength training of the traps, since we verified that this is not kyphosis. Comments?
I stopped teeth clenching when I learned about valsalva. It happened automatically.
Why is Barbell Prescription STILL not on Audio Book?
Not my call. We recorded one, but apparently there were issues with Amazon.
@@GreySteelsell it independently. F Amazon
How can I buy your book?
Currently sold out on Amazon. You can still buy a copy at startingstrength.com, in the store section.
I bought The Barbell Prescription in e-book form a little over a month ago (April 2023).
Hm, never thought to notice whether I clench my teeth in a lift or not. Pretty sure I don't though. And I'm definitely not the kind of person you were talking about clenching their teeth all through daily life. I'm probably too "type B" for that kind of thing...