Skills Vs Degree | Very Informative Clash with Azad Chaiwala | Zeeshan Usmani English Medium KG - gufhtugu.com/pre-kg-kg-english-medium/ Grade 1 - gufhtugu.com/grade-1-english-medium/ Urdu Medium KG - gufhtugu.com/pre-kg-kg/ Grade 1 - gufhtugu.com/grade-1/
oy Allah ka naam hy Azad sir kuda ka khoof khaao sirf paisay kamana goal nhe hy zindgi ka jitna me university me seekha itna me nay poray 12 saal ki taleem me nhe seeekha log phlay he kam aqal hn opar say aap in ko distract kar rhy ho bjay is k zayda university banay k ap log katam or bnad karny k chakr me paray ho ap k mulk ki economy sirf education k kam honay ki waja say hy .... pakistan ka 1st issue ======> bacha jhgara shoro krta hy to khty hn shadi krwa do pir saari zindgi wo nalike bachay palany me guzar data hy ,,,,,,,,,,2nd issue =======> Education we need PHDs for relgion debates people still accepting what i have is enough and which is not enough, and they need to understand first they need to give only quality first not quantity everyone is running for quantity which is not your concern demand make its own quantity .... PLZ make more universities that's how our 23 CRORE people will understand that " women is created for men but Men is not only for women" Muzammil Mehmood
محترم ذیشان عثمانی صاحب اور محترم آزاد چائے والا صاحب آج آپ دونوں کی اس ویڈیو سے جو سب سے بڑا سبق میں نے سیکھا وہ اختلاف کرنے کی تمیز اور طریقہ ہے ۔ سلامت رہیں آپ دونوں 😇
Amazing video. My kids are getting privately education at home. I don't even call it Homeschooling anymore. And I'm using Zeeshan Usmani's KG and Grade 1 curriculum and waiting for grade 2 book. And I'm also following Azad Bhai's curriculum my kids are learning practical skills like planting and we have hens and goats. So basically its a natural process of learning. Alhumdulillah! May ALLAH swt help all those who are struggling to serve the humanity May ALLAH be pleased with them and ease their all affairs. Ameen sum Ameen!
My son is in 9th class. He is certified pen tester from Hack the Box. He goes to cyber Security Lab from 9 am to 2 pm. And then go to academy from 4 to 8 pm. He follows skills as principal menu and formal education from academy side by side. My point of view is formal education/ degree with skills. I think both are important. Formal education provides you platform and improves your personality.
That depends more on the institution the student is going to. Most of the universities in Pakistan don't provide that exposure to the student which can help him in his career growth. Universities like LUMS or NUST are best in this manner that give tremendous exposure and personality growth that can help the student in any field.
My kids never been to school we are unschooled. he is 8 and has done on pen testing on hack the box he knows python making websites, apps,making games on unity,unreal Engine roblox studio,he is doing great mashallah. He has artificial intelligence , cyber security course .schools are spoiling our kids there's no need to send a child to school now a days
The reason you didn't argue and tried to find common grounds to respectfully end conversation , is the beauty of being literate and educated. And exactly why we need education!
As far as language is concerned, it is very important to learn languages not only english , we should must familiar with an Arabic language so that we can learn the knowledge of QURAN PAK, HADEETH, and much more
if you could please tell me university or the specific degree ? if you are doing Bs for 7 years, then it is you who is dragging not the other way around, the delay in university is mostly because of students rather than University
And practical is not possible without understanding of theory.Obviously, one have to read the method or process and have the familiarity of concept then anything can be done practically. In conclusion, books and syllabuses are made for the feasibility of students so they can have the knowledge of a topic and then to proceed it practically (it is a different argument that the books should be writtten in easy to understand manner but we can't ignore the importance of theory).....furthermore, i have an argument that not everything can be done practically, sometimes we have to just rely on the theory cuz we don't have the resources for performing it practically. for instance, currently we just have the theory and understanding of time travel which is being taught to students, how would they perform it....?
I respect both of these legends Actually these are our Heroes. G haan ye dono shakhsiyat hamare asal heroes hen jinka kaam nazar araha hai k ye log achha kaam krahe hen inhone is generation ko ek naye soch de hai ek vision diya hai i salute both of these. Warna pichle 76 saal se hamari Qoam sirf naare maar rahi thi. Allah t’aala in dono ko ajre azeem ata farmaye ameen.
Yeh bohot acha aur informative discussion hai. Skills aur degree ke beech ka yeh contrast waqai sochne pe majboor karta hai. Aaj ke dor mein skills ka hona zyada zaroori hai, lekin degree bhi apni jagah zaroori hai, khaaskar kuch specific fields mein. Azad Chaiwala aur Zeeshan Usmani ka yeh discussion mujhe bohot kuch sikhane wala lag raha hai. Shukriya iss behtareen content ke liye!
I think they both are part of a spectrum , just part of the listeners were confused but after this podcast almost its clear...we want our youth to be on the right path of prosperity ultimately our country's success..I am following both(patriots) for a long time and i love them for their love dedication and passion hard work ❤ Lastly i thank both and pray for their health and highest ranks in Akirat Dr Imran Asif Kotli AJK
I agree with Zeeshan Usmani, as he is a guy with authentic knowledge, experience and exposure. There is an internee in my team who learned graphic design from Chaiwala institute, He know nothing about design, no idea how to design and what to do. He only knew Photoshop basic skills in 2 months and producing even poor results, we took 6 months teaching him. First Chaiwala should correct the teachings of his institute from where he is earning alot.
You cant quote students performance is a result of some guy who owns the institute, good work that you hired him and gave him an opportunity, but you have to understand that people here generally in Pakistan have this careless attitude, no desire to learn, look for shortcuts, etc, you cant change this attitude easily specially his courses are like 2 months and 1 month usually...
@@Shreaadedaa i am not just talking about 1 student, i have met multiple as I am a senior creative director and i go through interviews every month... 1 or 2 students can never be an example but 5 - 10 make a group and when they are below average, the institute is at fault. of course the owner is responsible for the Quality of Education provided
مسلمانوں کے رول ماڈل نبی صلی اللہ علیہ و آلہ و سلم اور آپ کے صحابہ کرام ہیں، دعا ھے اللہ پاک ہمارے بچوں کو ان جیسا بنائیں جو ہمارے رول ماڈل ہیں. اس بات میں بھی کوئی شک نہیں عثمانی صاحب ایک اچھے انسان ہیں.
@@ex2ex2ex2 صحیح مطلب یہی ہے کہ ہم اپنے نبی کو فالو کریں اور ان جیسا بنیں, ذیشان عثمانی کے چند پہلو جانتے ہیں ہم, انکے کردار کی گارنٹی اللہ نے نہیں دی لیکن جنکے کردار کی گارنٹی دی اور کہا کہ ان جیسا بنو تو انہی کے جیسا بننا چاہیے
Itne paise laga kar degree kar ke bhi agar unemployed he rehna hai to kya faida aisi degree ka...or rahi bat courses ki to actual taleem wala kabhi unemployed nhi reh skta
Yes and i think is from my own family experience, i have a elder brother who is phd doc and i am type of person who is more of business type and so im running retail shop. So every person has its own mindset of earning money so when i heard of these both great people it just reminded me of me and my brother example.
i appriciate the valuable person like ZESHAN USMANI that are doing for our next generation plz do effort and make a whole curriculum that should fully clean from Pakistani worst and unproductive, time wasting I did also BSc engineering but I am not happy for this because now after getting 16 years of education now I have no job and no skill when I go for job in any institution they ask about skill but I have no skill from this curriculam
They both are correct 💯. Aim same ha dono ka k pasy ksy kmaye jaye lkn tareeka different. Dono k life ko ly k alag alag experience ha. Both are highly professionals no doubt in it. But life me hr koi ak tareeky se successful naiii hota ksi k hardwork and luck ak trh se faida dti ha or dosra same method se faik hota ha. So its life try both things in order to live in Pakistan. Its my opinion.
ہمارے اساتذہ ریسرچ کیلئے نہیں PhD اسلئے کرتے ہیں کہ اچھی نوکری ملے گی۔ لیکن آجکل پاکستان کی ٹاپ یونیورسٹی کے پروفیسر سے skill والا بچہ گھر بیٹھے آنلائن زیادہ کماتا ہے۔
@@adilmalikofficiall chlo tum skill seekhlo. agy tum jis bhi well known company mein jao gy wo tumhari degree dekhe ga lazmi. suppose ke ik company hai us ne 100 people hire karne hain. aur total number of applications 1000 hain toh ab ye mumkin toh nai ke wo 1000 logon ko individually bulwa ke interview lein. toh isliye wo by gpa filter karty hain ke han bhai jinka gpa 3.00 se uper sirf unko hi interview ke liye bulaya jaye ga. ab agar ap ne degree hi nahi ki hui toh ap kaisy job kar sakty ho us company mein. degree + skill is both important.
@@globtex Degree kr k job Karo bs or Japanese company me job mil Jay to khush lekin Japan ya china me degree ki kya value he? Experience degree ka baap he
Agar degree Karni hi hai to Virtual university se karlo km paise lagain gain degree bhi mil jaeigi ab bat Rahi skill ki Jo degree ki hai us me self study karo us me skill development karo degree bhi hogai maa baap p bojh bhi nehi rahega bohat saste me degree mil jaegi....
The debate I had been waiting for a long time. Both Gentlemen proved their point without quarrel. Couldn't get any better than this. Looking forward to more.
"ASSALAMO ALAIKOM". "JAZA KALLAH" Ustaad e Muhtaram for this video and for the part two of Justuju ka Safar. I have ordered one and cannot wait to read.
But Zeeshan bhai and Azad bhai every developed nation developed its own language education system, you can which is a plus point mot necessary and, I appreciate the efforts of Zeeshan Bhai who translates the world's best curriculum in Urdu.
Azad is confusing, perplexed. He might be true in his mind but is not able to communicate his message to public clearly which makes controversies around him. Dr. Zeeshan Sahab is respectable and true inspiration for me.
Really sad thats what you got from this beautiful conversation. If you got of your high horse, you will see how many useful and practical points he said.
میں لاہور میں ایک جگہ سے لیزر شعاؤں کے ذریعے پتھری کا علاج کروا رہا ہوں بعض دفعہ ڈاکٹر تاخیر سے آتا ہے تو میرا لیتھوٹریپسی والا علاج آفس بوائے بغیر ڈگری کے اپنے 15 سالہ تجربے کی وجہ سے شروع کردیتا ہے۔ پاکستان میں ڈاکٹری کرنے کے لیے ہماری اردو زبان پر اگر پڑھایا جائے تو کسی کا دماغ خراب ہے کہ وہ ڈاکٹر نہ بن سکے۔۔! چائنہ میں اپنی زبان میں سب کچھ ممکن ہے تو وہ دنیا کو ٹکر دے سکتا ہے تو ہم کیوں کسی زبان میں اپنی نسل برباد کررہے ہیں۔
Lakin wo larka kisi jahal se seekh kay nahi ker raha apka ilaaj. Aur wo har tarhan ki situation ko handle kerny ka knowledge nahi rakhta jo aik foctor rakhta. Ilzaam doctot kay ghaflat waly rawaiye ko dain na kay degree ko
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@@FareedaKalsoomمیرا چھوٹا بھائی مجھ سے زیادہ کمپیوٹر جانتا ہے لیکن اُس کے پاس ڈگری نہیں اور میرے پاس ڈگری ہے باقی رہ گئی بات نالج کی تو میری جان اُس ڈاکر کے پاس بھی ہر چیز کا نالج نہیں ہوگا وہ صرف پتھری کا ڈاکٹر ہوگا اور جو وہ کمپوڈر ہے پندرہ سال کے تجربے سے وہ ڈاکٹر جتنا ہی جانتا ہوگا۔
Very good discussion. Our whole education system is meant to make you servant and hence job search is initiated once degree target is achieved. The real need is how to start your own business and how to provide job to other people. Any person even at CEO level should and must think that S/he is working in a business started by someone else. Yes, education to some extent is necessary to understand maths, communication skills, religious and ethical knowledge.
Sir, I cannot express my gratitude to both of you legends. Thank you for this great session. The world would have been a better place if all the debates were like this: calm and respectful.
These things need to be fixed/correct in Pakistan's education system 1. curriculam 2. dress 3. language 4. building infrastructure 5. teachers qualification 6. parents attention 7. student interest (don't do like this "It was my grandfather's or my grandmother wish that I become an engineer, become a doctor") 8. timetable
I am an IT Professional...It is Impossible to design I.T curriculum unless we categorise degrees in specialisation.Divide course Theoretical and Practical and design in a way at least 40 percent is practical knowledge.Give assignments related to that and conduct quizzes based on your own assignments not on taught theory.
ماشاء اللہ دو بڑی شخصیت ایک ساتھ ❤❤❤بہت ہی کام کی باتیں اللہ پاک آسانی بانٹنے والوں کے لیے بھی آسانی فرمائیے. اللہُ پاک میری نی نسل عقل اور ہمت عط فرمایاے کہ آپ کی باتیں انھیں آسانی سے سمجھ آ جانیں آمین ثم آمین
یہ دونوں میرے لیے بہت قابل احترام ہیں، اور میں ان کی سوچ سے اپنی زندگی میں تبدیلی پیدا کی، آج 57 سال کی عمر میں انگلینڈ میں اپنا Higher Diploma کر رہا ہوں کیونکہ مہارت کے ساتھ ساتھ مجھے Qualification کی ضرورت تھی، جو کہ انشاءاللہ مکمل ہوگی۔ پاکستان کو ان جیسے لوگوں کی ہی ضرورت ہے۔۔۔۔
Zeeshan bhai demonstrates a greater level of maturity and sensibility, approaching situations from a broader perspective. While Azad bhai is also correct, but his viewpoint tends to be narrower, overlooking individual needs.
what I understand if you want to work in big organization, then you need degree, And if you want to create your own business, they you need to skills and become freelaner.
Skills Vs Degree | Very Informative Clash with Azad Chaiwala | Zeeshan Usmani
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hr mulk ki koe na koe indentity hoti ha hm pakistan ki identity business ko bnata hain
that make karobari pakistani
Is this possible to get the delivery in India,what ever will be the price...
oy Allah ka naam hy Azad sir kuda ka khoof khaao sirf paisay kamana goal nhe hy zindgi ka jitna me university me seekha itna me nay poray 12 saal ki taleem me nhe seeekha log phlay he kam aqal hn opar say aap in ko distract kar rhy ho bjay is k zayda university banay k ap log katam or bnad karny k chakr me paray ho ap k mulk ki economy sirf education k kam honay ki waja say hy .... pakistan ka 1st issue ======> bacha jhgara shoro krta hy to khty hn shadi krwa do pir saari zindgi wo nalike bachay palany me guzar data hy ,,,,,,,,,,2nd issue =======> Education we need PHDs for relgion debates people still accepting what i have is enough and which is not enough, and they need to understand first they need to give only quality first not quantity everyone is running for quantity which is not your concern demand make its own quantity .... PLZ make more universities that's how our 23 CRORE people will understand that " women is created for men but Men is not only for women" Muzammil Mehmood
*اس ویڈیو کی بہترین بات:*
*بات مکمل سننے کا حوصلہ۔*
*دونوں حضرات نے سوال و جواب اور اگلے بندے کی بات مکمل تحمل اور سکون سے سنی ۔۔*
Muja Azad bhi thory jazbaty lagy
Absolutely agreed
Azaad fully lost after 20:15. He interupted several times to zeeshan ul hassan usmani from that to onward.
Yes noticed.
That's the beauty of real education
محترم ذیشان عثمانی صاحب اور محترم آزاد چائے والا صاحب آج آپ دونوں کی اس ویڈیو سے جو سب سے بڑا سبق میں نے سیکھا وہ اختلاف کرنے کی تمیز اور طریقہ ہے ۔ سلامت رہیں آپ دونوں 😇
Amazing video. My kids are getting privately education at home. I don't even call it Homeschooling anymore.
And I'm using Zeeshan Usmani's KG and Grade 1 curriculum and waiting for grade 2 book. And I'm also following Azad Bhai's curriculum my kids are learning practical skills like planting and we have hens and goats. So basically its a natural process of learning. Alhumdulillah! May ALLAH swt help all those who are struggling to serve the humanity May ALLAH be pleased with them and ease their all affairs. Ameen sum Ameen!
damn, thats actually nice
Two legends, two options but both have strong arguments. Two ways of the same destination. Excellent talk.
My son is in 9th class. He is certified pen tester from Hack the Box. He goes to cyber Security Lab from 9 am to 2 pm. And then go to academy from 4 to 8 pm. He follows skills as principal menu and formal education from academy side by side.
My point of view is formal education/ degree with skills. I think both are important. Formal education provides you platform and improves your personality.
That depends more on the institution the student is going to. Most of the universities in Pakistan don't provide that exposure to the student which can help him in his career growth. Universities like LUMS or NUST are best in this manner that give tremendous exposure and personality growth that can help the student in any field.
And I am delighted to hear that your son is doing a great job at this young age. I wish him the best of luck.
My kids never been to school we are unschooled. he is 8 and has done on pen testing on hack the box he knows python making websites, apps,making games on unity,unreal Engine roblox studio,he is doing great mashallah. He has artificial intelligence , cyber security course .schools are spoiling our kids there's no need to send a child to school now a days
@@EvolvingMindsNowitne ziyada chizen kese kar leta hai aik sath?
You are absolutely right in the current Era👌
آپ دونوں نے اختلاف کا طریقہ سکھا دیا
Just zeeshan usmani ny aqal sikha di azaab chai waly ko
Shukar kren azaab ny aqal seekhi sunny ki .warna ye interview mein samny waly ko bolny kab deta hai
The reason you didn't argue and tried to find common grounds to respectfully end conversation , is the beauty of being literate and educated. And exactly why we need education!
As far as language is concerned, it is very important to learn languages not only english , we should must familiar with an Arabic language so that we can learn the knowledge of QURAN PAK, HADEETH, and much more
Great❤
Absolutely right..Arabic is also an important language in terms of learning Quran.o.hadith and even beneficial in Arab countries.
But the topic here is worldly problems not personal problems
I really liked it when he said "hum jese logoon ko larte rehna chahiye". Because this was very beneficial conversation.
Having spent 7 years studying at university, I agree with Azad Chaiwala. They drag n delay until you start earning.
if you could please tell me university or the specific degree ? if you are doing Bs for 7 years, then it is you who is dragging not the other way around, the delay in university is mostly because of students rather than University
@@mohammadahmed6827 one BS, two Master degrees.
@mohammadahmed6827 three different universities in Islamabad
That's what called, productive conversation.
Practical is important wheather it is degree or skill...
Only by action can anything be achieved...
So just do it........
Wow! Yaar aap nay bohut aagay ki baat ker di....👍
And practical is not possible without understanding of theory.Obviously, one have to read the method or process and have the familiarity of concept then anything can be done practically. In conclusion, books and syllabuses are made for the feasibility of students so they can have the knowledge of a topic and then to proceed it practically (it is a different argument that the books should be writtten in easy to understand manner but we can't ignore the importance of theory).....furthermore, i have an argument that not everything can be done practically, sometimes we have to just rely on the theory cuz we don't have the resources for performing it practically. for instance, currently we just have the theory and understanding of time travel which is being taught to students, how would they perform it....?
ماشاءاللہ ، بہت معلوماتی ویڈیو، اختلاف کا مثبت انداز بیان کیا گیا ہے ، اللہ تعالیٰ دونوں کو ترقی دے اور مزید مخلوقِ خدا کی خدمت پر استقامت دے ، آمین
I respect both of these legends
Actually these are our Heroes.
G haan ye dono shakhsiyat hamare asal heroes hen jinka kaam nazar araha hai k ye log achha kaam krahe hen inhone is generation ko ek naye soch de hai ek vision diya hai i salute both of these.
Warna pichle 76 saal se hamari Qoam sirf naare maar rahi thi.
Allah t’aala in dono ko ajre azeem ata farmaye ameen.
دونوں کو آللہ جزا عطا فرمائے۔
بہترین ملاقات لوگوں کو سیکھانے والے دو سپر مینز
This was something jiskay liye I waited 3 years. YOU BOTH ARE LEGENDS
Yeh bohot acha aur informative discussion hai. Skills aur degree ke beech ka yeh contrast waqai sochne pe majboor karta hai. Aaj ke dor mein skills ka hona zyada zaroori hai, lekin degree bhi apni jagah zaroori hai, khaaskar kuch specific fields mein. Azad Chaiwala aur Zeeshan Usmani ka yeh discussion mujhe bohot kuch sikhane wala lag raha hai. Shukriya iss behtareen content ke liye!
ماشاءاللہ دونوں ھی پاکستان کا سرمایہ ھیں
I think they both are part of a spectrum , just part of the listeners were confused but after this podcast almost its clear...we want our youth to be on the right path of prosperity ultimately our country's success..I am following both(patriots) for a long time and i love them for their love dedication and passion hard work ❤
Lastly i thank both and pray for their health and highest ranks in Akirat
Dr Imran Asif
Kotli AJK
Kis cheez ke doctor he aap 😅
17:52
Human.... Radiologist
Critical & brilliant discourse. Degree + skill = Massive success
In nutshell - it's a debate between being street smart vs book smart. Both have their own advantages in their own realms.
I agree with Zeeshan Usmani, as he is a guy with authentic knowledge, experience and exposure. There is an internee in my team who learned graphic design from Chaiwala institute, He know nothing about design, no idea how to design and what to do. He only knew Photoshop basic skills in 2 months and producing even poor results, we took 6 months teaching him. First Chaiwala should correct the teachings of his institute from where he is earning alot.
You cant quote students performance is a result of some guy who owns the institute, good work that you hired him and gave him an opportunity, but you have to understand that people here generally in Pakistan have this careless attitude, no desire to learn, look for shortcuts, etc, you cant change this attitude easily specially his courses are like 2 months and 1 month usually...
@@Shreaadedaa i am not just talking about 1 student, i have met multiple as I am a senior creative director and i go through interviews every month... 1 or 2 students can never be an example but 5 - 10 make a group and when they are below average, the institute is at fault. of course the owner is responsible for the Quality of Education provided
میں ذیشان عثمانی جیسے قابل شخص کی تعریف کرتی ہوں میں اللّٰہ سے دعا کرتی ہوں میرا بیٹا ذیشان عثمانی جیسا بنے آ مین آمین محمد ایان
مسلمانوں کے رول ماڈل نبی صلی اللہ علیہ و آلہ و سلم اور آپ کے صحابہ کرام ہیں، دعا ھے اللہ پاک ہمارے بچوں کو ان جیسا بنائیں جو ہمارے رول ماڈل ہیں.
اس بات میں بھی کوئی شک نہیں عثمانی صاحب ایک اچھے انسان ہیں.
@@Faizan-A-Khanبات کا غلط مطلب مت نکالو. ذیشان عثمانی ایک اچھا مسلمان ہے
@@ex2ex2ex2 صحیح مطلب یہی ہے کہ ہم اپنے نبی کو فالو کریں اور ان جیسا بنیں,
ذیشان عثمانی کے چند پہلو جانتے ہیں ہم,
انکے کردار کی گارنٹی اللہ نے نہیں دی لیکن جنکے کردار کی گارنٹی دی اور کہا کہ ان جیسا بنو تو انہی کے جیسا بننا چاہیے
@@ex2ex2ex2 and where did I say he is not a good person?
Read my comment with open eyes Bro.
Ameen
More than 4000 PhDs are unemployed in Pakistan. Agreed with Sir Azad .
With due respect to sir Zeeshan opinion.
UA-cam say courses karnay walay kitnay unemployed hyn? any data
Itne paise laga kar degree kar ke bhi agar unemployed he rehna hai to kya faida aisi degree ka...or rahi bat courses ki to actual taleem wala kabhi unemployed nhi reh skta
I feel that Dr Zeeshan Usmani is talking about a job ready generation while Azad Chai Wahla is talking about a business ready generation.
Both are integral part of the society. They both agree on beautiful combination of skilled and knowledgeable work force. Legends.
Yes and i think is from my own family experience, i have a elder brother who is phd doc and i am type of person who is more of business type and so im running retail shop.
So every person has its own mindset of earning money so when i heard of these both great people it just reminded me of me and my brother example.
Zeeshan darhee Wala shetan ha . Jis nay Bitcoin ku halal kaha
@@muslim3271 tu ap btae haram kaise hoa 🤔
@@softgamingyt786
Jub aik chiz ka wajod he nahi ha TU phir. Is leye Haram hay or farad bhee.
Apart from the outsatnding msg the good thing is that there are no ads.
So listen without any disturbance.
دونوں کی بات صحیح ہے جس کا دل پڑھائی میں لگتا ہے وہ پڑھائی کرے اور جس کا دل کا م کی طرف ہے وہ کام کرے
The best Crossover of our country's scape.
بہترین پوڈ کاسٹ دونوں نے باکستان کی نوجوانو کیلے بہت کام کیا اللہ انکو مزید طرقی نصیب کرے امین ❤❤
Great Conversation to Enhance Emerging Students of Pakistan. Really Appreciative and momentous step to elevate surging students and youngsters.
i appriciate the valuable person like ZESHAN USMANI that are doing for our next generation plz do effort and make a whole curriculum that should fully clean from Pakistani worst and unproductive, time wasting
I did also BSc engineering but I am not happy for this because now after getting 16 years of education now I have no job and no skill when I go for job in any institution they ask about skill but I have no skill from this curriculam
They both are correct 💯. Aim same ha dono ka k pasy ksy kmaye jaye lkn tareeka different. Dono k life ko ly k alag alag experience ha. Both are highly professionals no doubt in it. But life me hr koi ak tareeky se successful naiii hota ksi k hardwork and luck ak trh se faida dti ha or dosra same method se faik hota ha. So its life try both things in order to live in Pakistan. Its my opinion.
ہمارے اساتذہ ریسرچ کیلئے نہیں PhD اسلئے کرتے ہیں کہ اچھی نوکری ملے گی۔ لیکن آجکل پاکستان کی ٹاپ یونیورسٹی کے پروفیسر سے skill والا بچہ گھر بیٹھے آنلائن زیادہ کماتا ہے۔
میرے دو بچے ہیں 1st اور 7th , ایک کے بستے کا وزن 6 کلو تھا، اور کلاس ون کے بستے کا وزن 4 کلو تھا۔
Tha sa kia matlab
Very Clear vision 👌
Highly insightful discussion. Two legends in one picture. Highly Appreciated
An immensely needed podcast .. Quality & constructive content Ma Sha Allah
Very good conversation. Thanks
جزاكم الله خيرا ،
على هذه اقتراحات.
بارك الله فيكم
Fruitful but short discussion. Looking forward to see you both again with more guidance for Pakistani youth.
Zeeshan Usmani beautifully summed up the importance of degree and education ❤️🌟
degree ka faida ni he bhai
@@adilmalikofficiall jo degree kr nhe skta, wo kehta hy faida nhe hy.
@@adilmalikofficiall chlo tum skill seekhlo. agy tum jis bhi well known company mein jao gy wo tumhari degree dekhe ga lazmi. suppose ke ik company hai us ne 100 people hire karne hain. aur total number of applications 1000 hain toh ab ye mumkin toh nai ke wo 1000 logon ko individually bulwa ke interview lein. toh isliye wo by gpa filter karty hain ke han bhai jinka gpa 3.00 se uper sirf unko hi interview ke liye bulaya jaye ga. ab agar ap ne degree hi nahi ki hui toh ap kaisy job kar sakty ho us company mein. degree + skill is both important.
@@globtex Degree kr k job Karo bs or Japanese company me job mil Jay to khush lekin Japan ya china me degree ki kya value he? Experience degree ka baap he
Agar degree Karni hi hai to Virtual university se karlo km paise lagain gain degree bhi mil jaeigi ab bat Rahi skill ki Jo degree ki hai us me self study karo us me skill development karo degree bhi hogai maa baap p bojh bhi nehi rahega bohat saste me degree mil jaegi....
Lovely conversation...
Energy boosters !!!
May Allah Bless you both
UNSTOPPABLE FORCE MEETS THE IMMOVABLE OBJECT.
What a caption
Perfectly described
May Allah bless both always.
Gentlemen, thoughtful and future enlightened.
Serving the nation
very nice and informative discussion, thanks both.
Very interesting and informative disscussion. I really enjoyed it. Thanks
The debate I had been waiting for a long time. Both Gentlemen proved their point without quarrel. Couldn't get any better than this. Looking forward to more.
great said
Precious opinions and efforts by both gems
May Allah Bless u guys and help all Muslims.
Ameeeen
"ASSALAMO ALAIKOM".
"JAZA KALLAH" Ustaad e Muhtaram for this video and for the part two of Justuju ka Safar. I have ordered one and cannot wait to read.
JazakAllah sir
Awesome talk
But Zeeshan bhai and Azad bhai every developed nation developed its own language education system, you can which is a plus point mot necessary and, I appreciate the efforts of Zeeshan Bhai who translates the world's best curriculum in Urdu.
Masha Allah It's very productive Discussion.
Wonderful indeed...!
Azad is confusing, perplexed. He might be true in his mind but is not able to communicate his message to public clearly which makes controversies around him.
Dr. Zeeshan Sahab is respectable and true inspiration for me.
Jazakallah Sir ❤️ 🌹
hence proved that literacy is important. Azad chaiwala is on the top level of illiteracy even don't know the way of formal communication.
😂
Really sad thats what you got from this beautiful conversation.
If you got of your high horse, you will see how many useful and practical points he said.
Now I clearly understand point of Azad bhai. great vision! Masha' Allah
Excellent conversation 👍
Excellent both have strong points to develop critical thinking based comparison on the issue.
Excellent ma Sha Allah!!!!
Wonderful Conversation❤
zeeshan sir, your idea at 28:40 is long lasting
Yaar kiya debate he. Zabardast yaar. ❤
Really like this informative and constructive conversation
میں لاہور میں ایک جگہ سے لیزر شعاؤں کے ذریعے پتھری کا علاج کروا رہا ہوں بعض دفعہ ڈاکٹر تاخیر سے آتا ہے تو میرا لیتھوٹریپسی والا علاج آفس بوائے بغیر ڈگری کے اپنے 15 سالہ تجربے کی وجہ سے شروع کردیتا ہے۔
پاکستان میں ڈاکٹری کرنے کے لیے ہماری اردو زبان پر اگر پڑھایا جائے تو کسی کا دماغ خراب ہے کہ وہ ڈاکٹر نہ بن سکے۔۔!
چائنہ میں اپنی زبان میں سب کچھ ممکن ہے تو وہ دنیا کو ٹکر دے سکتا ہے تو ہم کیوں کسی زبان میں اپنی نسل برباد کررہے ہیں۔
Lakin wo larka kisi jahal se seekh kay nahi ker raha apka ilaaj. Aur wo har tarhan ki situation ko handle kerny ka knowledge nahi rakhta jo aik foctor rakhta. Ilzaam doctot kay ghaflat waly rawaiye ko dain na kay degree ko
Brother google this medicine this will solve the issue. Chanca Piedra Stone Breaker - Natural Dissolver, Kidney Cleanse & Gallbladder Supplement - Detoxify Urinary Tract, Flush Impurities, Clear System - 60 Vegan Soft Capsules
ہمارے ہاں 90 فی صد دانتوں کا کام کرنے والے ان پڑھ ہیں اور سیکھے ہوئے ہیں۔
Yaha corruption Jo hay bhai. Saray idaro me to chor daku mafia birajuman he. Yaha Kuch ni hosakta.
@@FareedaKalsoomمیرا چھوٹا بھائی مجھ سے زیادہ کمپیوٹر جانتا ہے لیکن اُس کے پاس ڈگری نہیں اور میرے پاس ڈگری ہے
باقی رہ گئی بات نالج کی تو میری جان اُس ڈاکر کے پاس بھی ہر چیز کا نالج نہیں ہوگا وہ صرف پتھری کا ڈاکٹر ہوگا اور جو وہ کمپوڈر ہے پندرہ سال کے تجربے سے وہ ڈاکٹر جتنا ہی جانتا ہوگا۔
Very good discussion. Our whole education system is meant to make you servant and hence job search is initiated once degree target is achieved. The real need is how to start your own business and how to provide job to other people. Any person even at CEO level should and must think that S/he is working in a business started by someone else. Yes, education to some extent is necessary to understand maths, communication skills, religious and ethical knowledge.
Jazakallah khair Zabr10 guftugu
Sir, I cannot express my gratitude to both of you legends. Thank you for this great session.
The world would have been a better place if all the debates were like this: calm and respectful.
Fruitful discussion ❤
Bohat zabardast discussion hui hai ye...!!
These things need to be fixed/correct in Pakistan's education system
1. curriculam
2. dress
3. language
4. building infrastructure
5. teachers qualification
6. parents attention
7. student interest (don't do like this "It was my grandfather's or my grandmother wish that I become an engineer, become a doctor")
8. timetable
Nothing will be fixed here.
I am an IT Professional...It is Impossible to design I.T curriculum unless we categorise degrees in specialisation.Divide course Theoretical and Practical and design in a way at least 40 percent is practical knowledge.Give assignments related to that and conduct quizzes based on your own assignments not on taught theory.
I thought IT is mostly theory@@thehussansiddiqui
@@KhadersheriffIT field is a 30% study 70% practical
Proud and profound supporter of آزاد Chaiwala ۔ لیجنڈری skilled personality ❤
Bohat acha program. Really appreciated ❤
ماشاء اللہ دو بڑی شخصیت ایک ساتھ ❤❤❤بہت ہی کام کی باتیں اللہ پاک آسانی بانٹنے والوں کے لیے بھی آسانی فرمائیے. اللہُ پاک میری نی نسل عقل اور ہمت عط فرمایاے کہ آپ کی باتیں انھیں آسانی سے سمجھ آ جانیں آمین ثم آمین
Very Intellectual person Sir zeeshan is❤
یہ دونوں میرے لیے بہت قابل احترام ہیں، اور میں ان کی سوچ سے اپنی زندگی میں تبدیلی پیدا کی، آج 57 سال کی عمر میں انگلینڈ میں اپنا Higher Diploma کر رہا ہوں کیونکہ مہارت کے ساتھ ساتھ مجھے Qualification کی ضرورت تھی، جو کہ انشاءاللہ مکمل ہوگی۔
پاکستان کو ان جیسے لوگوں کی ہی ضرورت ہے۔۔۔۔
The difference between education and no education is visible in this video. Zeeshan Usmani is a legend.
If only you were not so close minded, you could have seen his side of view which is undebatably very practical.
True difference between the word Study and Learn.
Appreciated 👏
My view is to learn skill and start business it's Sunnah
Exactly
Two of my favorites in one frame ❤
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Really like their sincerity to the youth of Pakistan.
Dr sahab has became a wise man after education.
But not after ratta
Degree aqalmand nhi bnati...
Education boht logun k pass hy laiken 1% b wise nae hain jb k kuch un parh log b wise hotay hain.
@ibraheemq7859 yes, for sure.
@batoolshah7240 it depends on how you pursue your degree.
Looking forward to that school in'sha'Allah. May Allah SWT give you success in both the worlds
Aameen.
یہی لوگ ہیں ایماندار مخلص سننے والے❤
زیشان عثمانی
آزاد چائے والا
عدیل امتیاز (تختی آن لائن)
are Great for Pakistan
Very informative
This is a very good book....i have bought this for my kid ....i'm also gonna buy same for grade 1
Zeeshan Usmani is a clever guy - He should be a lawyer :D
Such an amazing debate. we need more like these.
G Sir Allah bless you May you live long Ameen 🕋🕌💫🌺🕋🤲 Jazak Allah khair 💫 InShaAllah 💫
I love this idea of video. Great respect for both of you.
Zeeshan bhai demonstrates a greater level of maturity and sensibility, approaching situations from a broader perspective. While Azad bhai is also correct, but his viewpoint tends to be narrower, overlooking individual needs.
Great observation
Best interview i ever seen,all questions were in my mind
Zeeshan sir very nice podcast with azad bhai. ❤❤❤❤
اللہ آپ دونوں سے راضی ہوں۔۔۔۔
ماشاء اللہ بہت اچھی پوڈ کاسٹ ہے ۔
what I understand if you want to work in big organization, then you need degree, And if you want to create your own business, they you need to skills and become freelaner.
جزاکم اللہ خیرا
Bhot zabardast muqabla raha Sir, next time boxing match bhe hona chahye.
Very informative discussion.